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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 140 
Cuckservative: How “Conservatives” Betrayed America
Greg Johnson Interviews Vox Day

VoxCuckservative81:39 / 300 words

Greg Johnson interviews Vox Day on his new book Cuckservative: How “Conservatives” Betrayed America co-authored with John Red Eagle.

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Topics discussed:

  • Who is John Red Eagle
  • How Cuckservative was written
  • The idea of the melting pot
  • Assimilationism vs. multiculturalism
  • The relationship between genes and culture
  • The “magic dirt” fallacy: ignoring genetic and cultural differences
  • Biologically based intelligence and its importance to civilization
  • Time preferences, democracy, and civilizational progress
  • Marian Van Court, “The Case for Eugenics in a Nutshell
  • Immigration and dysgenics
  • The Left-wing mind and the denial of reality
  • The intellectual vacuousness of post-War American conservatism
  • The reactionary nature of conservatism
  • The dependence of the Right on the Left
  • William F. Buckley and the origins of cuckservatism
  • Why cuckservatives are not really conservatives at all
  • The disaster of post-1965 immigration
  • Why Europeans are reacting more strongly to demographic displacement than Americans
  • Europe’s choice: democratic nationalist revival or civil war
  • Why America will probably fall apart due to demographic changes
  • Why the 60 million people who have immigrated to America legally and illegally since 1965 is the largest migration/invasion in world history
  • The hope for secession in America
  • Indian reservations as racial separatism and segregation
  • White liberals feel invulnerable to demographic displacement
  • Why working and middle class whites feel that they have no future
  • Christianity and cuckservatism: Vox’s argument that racial altruism is contrary to biblical ethics
  • Aquinas on charity and natural preferences
  • Why Western civilization will probably survive, but after a long period of warfare
  • The hope that this process can take place in the most humane possible manner (“velvet divorce” versus ethnic cleansing)
  • Vox’s vision of a truth-based, humane, post-totalitarian nationalism



  1. Irenicus
    Posted December 14, 2015 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    Absolutely awesome. Great interview. Love both of you.

  2. PlatoX
    Posted December 14, 2015 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Excellent webcast. Thank you both.

    If I may add a few related comments: The post-1965 immigration to the United States has been different not only due to the origin of the immigrants but (at least until recently anyway) return emigration rates have been lower post-1965. Studies of the 19th century show as many as a third of immigrants later left for a variety of reasons such as they only came to work for one or a few seasons of were disappointed with the degree of diversity encountered in America. This varied by country of origin from return rates of around 10% to more than 75%. This return rate appears to have been lower post-1965 though the Mexican return rate is reported to be increasing considerably. Demographic changes are not necessarily permanent.

    Though the term ‘melting pot’ or crucible was popularized by Zangwill it had been used before in reference to the United States. In the late 19th century the term ‘crucible’was used by Anglo-Saxon Federationists (perhaps the ‘alt-center, Anglo-Saxon nationalists’ of those then current years). They viewed the assimilation of Europeans in America as analogous (albeit from more diverse origins) to the centuries earlier formation of the English nation. Their efforts to create an international federation of Anglo-Saxon states (UK, Canada, Newfoundland, US, the Australian colonies, and southern Africa) did make some contribution to the formation of the Commonwealth of Australia (without New Zealand) and a decade later played a large role in the formation of the Union of South Africa (including the Boer states). No further accomplishments were made toward a federation and Ireland was ‘lost’. However, these states (minus South Africa) have coincidentally formed one of most important and enduring (partially informal) alliances of the 20th and 21st centuries.

  3. Posted December 14, 2015 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    Excellent discussion. I found the talk about the left’s feelings of grandiosity and invulnerability interesting, I think I’m starting to get a hold of it.

  4. Ike
    Posted December 15, 2015 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Fantastic podcast, enjoyable as always Greg. Thanks to the both of ya. Cheers.

  5. Luke Aragon
    Posted December 15, 2015 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    The idea that leftists are unable to connect actions and consequences is a very nice and concise way of thinking about the way they operate. It’s hard to believe that it could be that simple (considering they can have high IQ’s), but it makes sense when you realize that IQ tests don’t really measure the ability to solve problems in which the moving parts are scattered across time — all of the parts are neatly laid out at-a-glance across a page. Maybe we should start to think of intelligence more in terms of the ability to solve problems that are defined across space and time, and not just across space. We should start to talk about visual-spacial-temporal intelligence.

    • Theodore
      Posted December 16, 2015 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

      This is a good idea. We may find that some “high IQ” groups (cough-Asians-cough) are deficit in the temporal aspect, which would explain why such big-brained geniuses overpopulated China to an extent necessitating the (former) one-child policy, and why they are currently turning that nation into an environmentally damaged polluted cesspool.

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