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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 28 
Jonathan Bowden’s Last Interview, Part 2

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Part 2 of 2

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From February 23 to 27, 2012, Jonathan Bowden visited California to speak at a private Counter-Currents gathering in the Bay Area. On Sunday, February 26, after the official program had ended, Jonathan and I sat down in my breakfast room in front of a microphone and talked about philosophy, politics, religion, and above all art. This is, to my knowledge, the last interview Jonathan recorded. He died a little more than a month later on March 29, 2012.

Jonathan was very enthusiastic about this interview and pressed me to release it. But I set the recording aside, thinking that it needed a great deal of editing, as  we recorded it when we were both rather tired at the end of a hectic weekend. After Jonathan died, I discovered to my horror that the flash drive on which the interview had been stored had been damaged. Luckily, after a long search, we found a person who could recover the information for a fee of $350 (we wish to thank one of our donors for putting up part of the cost; you can donate here).

Topics discussed include:

  • Comics and graphic novels
  • Pulp literature
  • The heroic
  • Film as Wagner’s “complete work of art”
  • Film music
  • Modernist music and horror films
  • How an appreciation of popular culture fits in with Jonathan’s elitism
  • Religion
  • Atheism
  • Philosophy: the importance of Nietzsche and metaphysical objectivism
  • Traditionalism
  • Jonathan’s attitude toward particular historical regimes
  • Traits of Jonathan’s ideal regime
  • How to cultivate a Right-wing artistic and cultural movement

If anyone is interested in producing a transcript of both parts of this this interview, we will gladly publish it. Ideally, we would like one person to do a draft transcription and then place it online to allow other listeners to offer corrections. Please contact Greg Johnson at mailto://[email protected] before starting work, so we can prevent wasteful duplication of efforts.

Greg Johnson



  1. Harutyun
    Posted January 15, 2013 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    I sincerely want to thank Greg and Jonathan for these wonderful lectures and interviews. You guys here at Counter-Currents and people like Jonathan have really inspired me to improve myself to become more of an asset for our struggle. As Jonathan said in one of his interviews, artists help people talk to themselves, and that is what he has done for me. Jonathan was an intellectual hero for the Aryan race and his insights in life will be remembered by all truth-seekers in the future. Many thanks and keep up the stellar work!

  2. CosmicSurfer
    Posted January 15, 2013 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Re: Arkham Asylum

    I recommend the commentary on it in this book on Grant Morrison:

  3. rhondda
    Posted January 15, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    One of my kids introduced me to to Graphic novels, especially Neil Gaiman’s work, although he had other stuff too which was very interesting and different. I can’t remember the names of the authors, but one was this very realistic western. The other kid gifted me with Hayao Miajazaki’s animated movies. He is Japanese. They( my boys) had started with anime and moved up to very sophisticated story lines along the line of traditionalism with heros and heroines and duty and love. Much more engaging than that shlock Avatar which leftists seem to adore.

  4. Demosthenes
    Posted January 15, 2013 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Bowden at his best in Part2. Two things I would like to ask him if I could which 19th century European politicians-diplomats-soldiers most intrigued him. Would also have liked to learn more about how he thought British, Nordic, Protestant traditional aristocratic culture differed from southern Mediterranean and eastern Alpine European aristocrat culture, both in terms of governance and intellectualism.

    May his soul achieve theosis with the fire of eternal life! A worthy song for an honest man.

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