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Dear Angry Young White Man

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Dear Angry Young White Man,

You are forced daily to endure an entire system telling you explicitly that you are worthless, to see images designed to denigrate you, to marginalize you, to make your presence in the lands your ancestors built seem arbitrary and insignificant. You cannot go anywhere without seeing images of your lands, your women, your history, your culture being defiled by hostile foreign races who, in order to bleed your future dry, cloak themselves deceitfully in the noble ideals and traditions, which your people developed for your benefit. There is no escape from the propaganda and there is no escape from the reality of the situation. You are fucking pissed.

You are fucking pissed, and you want to do something about it. This is great. This is exactly why we are all here: we want you to do something. But you need to do the right things. You need to consider at all times what effect your actions will take on the movement, what effect your actions will take on your freedom, what effect your actions will take on your ability to contribute to our race in the future, and whether or not your actions are the greatest use of your talents. If you do these things honestly, you will inevitably conclude that it is always a wise move to stay away from lunacy (like obscenity, it doesn’t need to be defined: you just know it when you see it) and those who encourage violence. And, yes, I have read Siege too. It is a great book and, like you, I know that most of those who have turned it into a meme have not read it. I will never disavow it nor discourage anyone from reading it but, at the same time, I understand that those who mock it are often doing so to help you. The meme is not about the book, it is about keeping you safe and effective.

I also know that some of those who push this meme are harmful to the movement. Not all are doing this in good faith. Many of these people are the same ones who push the noxious “56%” meme and other ironic bullshit. They believe in nothing. They are damaged goods. They are victims of this sick system that we want to replace. You should pity them and just hope that their lives turn out okay. And you should take more than a small amount of pride in the fact that you, at such a young age, are wise enough to know that they are damaged. But they are not always wrong. Whites like consistency. We hate hypocrisy and ambiguity. It is therefore typical of us to pick sides and reject reflexively everything that comes from those we have determined to be our enemies. But it is important in metapolitics–and in life in general–to appreciate nuance and to treat the world of ideas as a buffet, picking and choosing what is good and healthy and leaving what is unappetizing to be consumed only by pigs.

But I also mentioned safety. Are we not a radical movement? Have I not said so myself multiple times? Yes, I have. And we are. Being a violent idiot, however, accomplishes nothing. If you have truly reached the point at which you have decided that you want to give your life for the movement, then it is worth remembering that it takes far more courage to live as an outsider than it does to die in some stupid spectacle for your 15 minutes of fame or to rot in prison. If you are ready to commit your entire life to the cause, do so by living and being a perpetual nuisance to the system. Either infiltrate its institutions and work to subvert them, be openly pro-white in real life, or drop out and chip away at the system by leeching off it: go on welfare, get free medical care, take advantage of every governmental program you possibly can. Use the money stolen from us by the anti-white government to support yourself while you work against it. Even being a pro-white vagabond is more effective than violence. Be creative. There are thousands of ways you can incrementally damage the system, thousands of ways you can vent your anger and infuriate our enemies without ending up in jail, making the rest of us look bad or providing justification for Jews to push for more restrictions on our speech and gun rights. You do not need to be safe but you need to be smart. The fetishization of safety for the sake of safety is a bourgeois weakness but safety within the movement is crucial: we need you.

We need you, and we care about you. Though this movement is growing rapidly (which is why the system is on high alert), we are still a small group of people. You are in on the ground floor of a movement that will change our world in time. You are the vanguard. You had the foresight and the intelligence to deprogram yourself and you took the initiative to start acting for your race. Use this foresight, intelligence, and initiative to plan your actions, consider seriously the full range of consequences, and behave always in the best interests of your people. Do not get ahead of yourself in your eagerness for change. The change will indeed occur. But your job right now is to help us get others prepared, to get them on board with our program, to wake them up. None of us can do anything on his own right now. We need each other. And we need each other to be stable, solid, fit, and strong in every sense of these words. There are a lot of creeps in this world, and creeps don’t stop being creeps just because they are pro-white. Be smart.

Your anger will not go away. Learn to live with it. Let it provide you with spiritual sustenance. Channel it productively. Write, tweet, go to the gym, start a podcast, donate to your favorite pro-white organization, protest something somewhere, go to grad school, learn a trade, create art, post flyers. Turn your anger into action and you will find that it is a useful tool. It can propel you and inspire you. Never let anyone tell you that what you doing for the movement–even if it is nothing but a Twitter account–is not important. It is. We are waging a multifaceted battle against a system with tentacles everywhere. There is nowhere we can go to escape their propaganda, but we are working to make it impossible for them to avoid us in the same way. And we are succeeding. Stay fucking pissed but stay optimistic. We are all pulling for you. We are all counting on you. We are all fighting for you. Help us by fighting with us not against us. We understand how you feel and we will–together with you–tear this bloated, pus-filled system to the ground and replace it with one that will never allow any more young whites to feel like you do right now. Keep up the pressure, keep a cool head, trust your instincts when it comes to people. And rest assured: these bastards will not win.

Donald Thoresen

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  1. Rick Dewey
    Posted February 15, 2018 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    FUCKING EPIC, Thank you!

    • Donald Thoresen
      Posted February 15, 2018 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

      Thanks for that comment, Rick. I appreciate it.

  2. Aaron
    Posted February 15, 2018 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    As Solzenhitzyn said, the line between good and evil lies in every mans heart. We should take care that we don’t become too much like our enemies as we’re standing against them.

  3. WynnLloyd
    Posted February 15, 2018 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Very uplifting at the end, there.
    I hope this gets shared all over the AR and even the AL.
    Thank you for writing this.

  4. nineofclubs
    Posted February 15, 2018 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for this brilliant, passionate article.

    I came into contact with nationalism in the early 1980’s because some angry young man (probably) made the effort to put up stickers for an Australian nationalist group on a train. Having become involved, I put up hundreds of stickers myself. And distributed fliers. And wrote articles for nationalist publications. And daubed graffiti on public walls. And persuaded real people that – just perhaps – Australian nationalists weren’t necessarily genocidal maniacs.

    And stayed angry. The anger never left, but I felt better because I was fighting for a cause I never doubted. But I was careful.

    If you’re angry, make contact with a group whose ideas align with your own. You’re likely to be surprised at how normal these people are. Find your tribe and then fight for it. But be careful. This struggle is a marathon, not a sprint. Don’t burn out too quickly.


    • Gnome Chompsky
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 6:55 am | Permalink

      nineofclubs, I well recall seeing those stickers on trains in Sydney’s western suburbs IIRC, . My own political affilation at the time was with a commie and jew-free nationalistic group (such a thing was possible at that time). CPA ML. I had punk and skinhead scene friends with NA sympathies, protecting me from attack at times at the time.
      Re. CPA ML, the article at the link below is very informative on what it was about.
      From comments I was personally hearing, they were very upset by Dr. Saleam’s infiltrating their bookshop.

      Strongly recommended article.

      All of the non-Jewish commies I met spoke of him in affectionate terms, even a couple, upper-class English Trots.

      Not to labour the point, has more worth reading than the sub-link, but the sub-link is what you should read first.

      Thanks to the shitty behaviour of Lebanese Moslems, some want to exclude Saleam from thought, that is wrong. His writing has much of interest, beyond the locality.

      • nineofclubs
        Posted February 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

        Agree with all you say. If you saw stickers on the main Western (Penrith), Richmond or Carlingford lines between about 1983-1986 they might have been mine.
        Like you, my first political affiliation was with a socialist group, being the Moscow-line SPA under Jack McPhillips (not the same as the current SP). Their criticism of capitalism was spot on but their internationalism put me off. I knew about the Maoists in the CPA-ML and the BLF leadership (Norm Gallagher) was aligned, I think.
        Dr Saleam should rightly be regarded as a hero of Australian nationalism. Many of those criticising him are throwbacks to the old Conservative Right.

        • Gnome Chompsky
          Posted February 17, 2018 at 8:07 am | Permalink

          Well, I hope some were yours. The use of the Eureka flag had some commie’s knickers in a twist, I never saw the problem, years later, a Eureka flag patch on my light pack had some people hysterically calling me a fascist, in conversation once ‘Dr. Goebbels’.Fine.

          I bought it at the CPA-ML bookshop.

          Once, I went to the cinema in Geo. St. with my then gf, Ross ‘the skulk’ May was also going to see a movie, we were on friendly nodding terms, he knew I had friends in his crowd, my then gf went crazy ‘Do you know that man?’ ‘Not well.’, etc.

          Other Aus. anecdote, aside from the CPA ML and SPA, the other semi-legit. CP was the CPA. Some old guy from the nth. Qld branch came to visit Sydney, went to the Leichhardt/Glebe branch because that was closest to the city centre. Found it packed with lesbian feminists. Wondered what his activities had been for. The version I was told was more entertaining, but I have forgotten the details, so will not add my own embellishments.

      • nineofclubs
        Posted February 17, 2018 at 1:37 am | Permalink

        Read the Maoist article and agree with the overall hypothesis – nationalists should adopt whatever tactics work for us, regardless of who’s used them before.
        Fairly accurate mention-in-passing of the SPA as well (ha!) but doesn’t reflect how much most SPA members also hated the Trots.
        I’m familiar with much of the radnat content; for me this series still resonates..


        • Gnome Chompsky
          Posted February 18, 2018 at 11:10 am | Permalink

          I agree re. SPA and Trots at the time, last I noticed, though, they were in talks with the clownish and cult-like SWP, whatever they called themselves then, for unification, and are now one.

          The Independence Movement was great, and IMHO, also fed the right, me as an example. As for later tactics like the Peace Squadron, that fell into Trot hands through the Nuclear Disarmament Party. The Prisoner’s Action Group involvement was the end of my social associations with almost all. Most of those people, not all, were creepy and some had secret police connections.

          In any case, none of it really matters now, since the CPA-ML is, if it still exists, just a group of old people who occasionally publish something, what is left of the SPA has merged with Trots.

          I admired the way you sticker-posters were doing propaganda, but where did it go? Most of those lines are full of no-go zones now, even regional centres are full of African invaders, the lack of free speech and association in your country makes it all look pretty hopeless.

          • nineofclubs
            Posted February 18, 2018 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

            I reckon the stickering and leafleting was effective. If you look at the so-called ‘Blainey debate’ at the time, it was nationalist agitation that got that started. Blainey actually said that ‘some people’ were referring to an Asian invasion. Later, Pauline Hanson said the same thing. It was National Action with the ‘Stop the Asian Invasion’ blitz which kicked off that whole debate.

            Meta politics through stickers and graffiti. It happened..

        • Gnome Chompsky
          Posted February 19, 2018 at 7:46 am | Permalink

          I don’t know the operation of this site too well, since your last comment has no ‘Reply’ button, I suppose that Mr. Johnson would like our thread to end there. Just to say that I agree, I think that your crowd did set the stage for Hanson’s initial post-Liberal Party career, at least in urban centres.

          She is a tough bird, many times has the state tried to destroy her, many times have her own MPs betrayed her, particularly in Qld. parlianent, where just about all of the party’s MLAs deserted her, or if not, made fools of themselves. Set-up? Sure looked like it.

          I did my own little similar propaganda campaigns, mainly anti-cult, early on, particiipated in a couple of those of others one I did not do at times.

          One, not of my coinage,

          Jim Jones and Charles Manson were for peace, love, and understanding, so too are the Orange people, Alll Cults are Cop-outs.

          I led a group of punk rocker s to lock the Orange people in their restaurant, broke the chain on the latch, pumped superglue into the lock, shut the door, we watched from the opposite side of the road laughing. I remain a Christian, but am never ashamed of that. One of the more hilarioust moments I have made. There were many others.

          Cheers to you.

          • nineofclubs
            Posted February 23, 2018 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

            Reminiscing about the hijinx of our youth says something about the theme of the article, I think. If you’re angry, get active with a nationalist outfit of your choosing. Seems we’ve come full circle.

            Cheers to you too mate.


  5. BjornThorsønn
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    Once in a while I come across an article that touches me so that I feel obliged to translate it to my native language. This is one of them.
    Greg Johnson have given me the go to do that as long as it all the time refer to the source.

    I will. But just wanted you to know that this was one of those articles.

    • Donald Thoresen
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 8:25 am | Permalink

      I am very happy to hear that. Thanks.

  6. Pietas
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    Is this about the Florida thing? Don’t you think he was Hispanic? “Cruz”, hello?

    • Donald Thoresen
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 8:51 am | Permalink

      I’ll have to check to see on which continent Spain and Portugal are located. I’ll get back to you.

      • Pietas
        Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

        Yeah but to me he looks Hispanic and the vast majority of persons with Hispanic names in Florida are from Latin America. I bet he’s at least half Hispanic. This was a revenge/columbine type shooting.

      • ster plaz
        Posted February 16, 2018 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

        Maybe Pietas meant one of the many mongrels from Central/South America, those who are part mestizo. Not those, of course, who are all White and from countries like Argentina, Brazil, etc.

        Hispanic is a name best reserved for European stock from Portugal and Spain.

        At least, that’s the way I see it.

    • Ivan
      Posted February 17, 2018 at 5:51 am | Permalink

      Cruz was an adopted name. According to CNN the shooter was of Jewish heritage. This adds a very interesting angle to this tragedy.

      • Donald Thoresen
        Posted February 17, 2018 at 10:01 am | Permalink

        Ivan: He was? Ah. I figured him for an Anglo-Hispanic-Jew hybrid but I did not think we would ever know. What I was pretty sure of though was that he was not a mestizo. I am very well-acquainted with mestizos and I have never seen one who looked remotely like that kid. Very interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.

  7. Posted February 16, 2018 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    you have some good points and good solutions…but I think the importance of things like school shootings etc, is overblown, even if they are committed by actual white nationalists…many of us see a dim future for whites in the not too distant future…a south africa type scenario…and possibly even worse…if that scenario comes to pass, the importance of things like school shootings etc will dim in comparison and will have little import…

    • Donald Thoresen
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 8:56 am | Permalink

      You are absolutely right. And the Jew media is in overdrive on this one, of course. But a little bit of friendly advice never hurt anyone.

  8. Jim
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    This is more about white male disillusionment and one of its many symptoms which is killing sprees.

    Okay, a lot of the examples of fighting the system go hand in hand with checking out of society. Which will be a road filled with a lot of unhappiness regardless of it giving some meaning or purpose. It’s not enough meaning or purpose because it leaves out so much of the valuable life men like us had in the past. Our ancestors and even recent family (like grandfathers etc) could stand up to the societal change that they didn’t agree with meanwhile having that healthy family and career outlet. We can’t.

    There’s a lot madness whether one goes MGTOW, 1488, shitposter, troll, larping militia, internet white identity or race realism advocate, etc. and of course the even darker paths of so-called “siege” suicidal spree killing types.. I know this guy wasn’t that despite the media misinformation, but whatever.

    We’re never going to be looked at in a good light even if we went the route of peaceful protests like MLK or whatever. Our peaceful gatherings are considered and reported on as worse and more violent than Black Lives Matter city burning riots and all our effort posts online and social media meme’ing / recruiting / truth spreading is labeled as “trolling” by disgusting lowlife degenerate cowards (they get to call us that because we can’t come out of the closet for political correctness).

    We don’t even have the escape of honor that the Japanese cultural nationalist had. Maybe we should bring that to our movement or make it into something for the truly black pilled and disillusioned before we have any more Timothy McVeighs or real Cruz types.

    Would they care if we adopted suicide or mass suicide to protest our demise? Surely they wouldn’t and probably would welcome it. But maybe history would remember it as noble? Maybe it’s the only answer for so many of us with no hope. Escape before the despair turns to that kind of rage.

    That Pearl Jam music video that was eerily popular before the craze of classroom killers became a thing in the late 90s. The boy, Jeremy, in the video walks into the classroom with a gun and then there’s the artistic freeze pose of his classmates covered in blood. It was often misinterpreted as he having killed his schoolmates, but it was explained, I believe, that he took his own life in front of them and their reaction was of shock.

    They (society) aren’t taking notice of the creeping early morality rate of whites or really the true causes of the opiod drug death crisis among our people. Again, is suicide or mass suicide a greater form of messaging to our despair? Would they stand up and take notice then or at least recognize and talk about the sickness their policies and planned trends are causing?

    They want us to go away. Maybe we should. Escape our suffering.

    • Donald Thoresen
      Posted February 17, 2018 at 12:01 am | Permalink

      There is a lot I could say about this very interesting comment but the short answer is NO. I assume you are speaking theoretically but, just in case you are not, please stop thinking this way, Jim.

    • Voryn Illidari
      Posted February 18, 2018 at 8:46 am | Permalink

      Anyone who hints that we should start offing ourselves is the enemy.
      “Ohh boo-hoo, we aren’t changing society fast enough, therefore all hope is lost!” Retard talk. Jim, go buy some more black lipstick and listen to some Korn

      • Jim
        Posted February 18, 2018 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

        I did used to listen to a lot of morose coldwave post-punk music. I’m not the enemy. I’m very much part of the movement. Obsessively so to the point of being distraught. I’d rather die for my people than check out selfishly from society. I’m just pointing out that we’re in an age where we can’t. 100 years ago a nationalist and even the socialist communist could take it to the street and change the world. We’re completely cut off from that ability now without being a domestic terrorist and villain according to society. I don’t want to be that either or have young men in our movement be that.

        And thanks Donald for the kind words. I’m okay. I hope most young men in our movement are okay and are not having those dark thoughts that I mentioned. I’d rather them be positive and enjoying life whether it’s open advocating for our people or rather enjoyable comedic trolling.

        What I said was dark, but I want to confront those dark thoughts and feelings and bring them out in the open and not let them fester. Purge them.

        If it weren’t for people in the movement, thought leaders, writers, other posters or shitposters, and sites like Counter Currents that critique and promote the culture, I wouldn’t know what to do. Thank all you and this site.

        • Voryn Illidari
          Posted February 20, 2018 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

          I posted a longer comment but something went wrong and it either didn’t post or got deleted. Might’ve been a phone issue.
          Anyway….here’s the deal. I used to be very black pilled myself. I was sure that our decadent system would keep lumbering on through the abyss until the White race died off. But then a bunch of things happened. Gamergate happened, where the Left/Jews got a major black eye and it became acceptable to talk about feminist and Leftist infiltration into American pastimes. Milo and Vox Day became popular online personalities from this. Then the Trump campaign happened, and the Alt Right emerged in mainstream discourse, and it became acceptable to talk about nonwhite immigration and the dishonesty of the kike media. There’s a multitude of White youths who are now racially conscious in numbers never before seen. GOOD things are happening, and more are down the pike. We have mainstream politicians now spreading our message. President Trump is not campaign Trump, but he still gives us some great treats here and there like no other president has or would since maybe Jackson.
          Keep your chin up and stay hopeful. We can win this. Sorry if my mockery was too harsh. I just get very irritated by black pilled types these days because i used to be just like that and I found a lot of good reasons to come out of it

  9. Pietas
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Heh, your talk reminds me of Bobby Fischer, the chess champion, running all over the world to escape supposed “Jewish persecution!” He removed all the fillings from his teeth because they (or the KGB not sure which) had put a chip in his tooth to listen to his thoughts! He believed they were communicating with him through the mass media and pop songs, believed he was being poisoned by someone or other. In the Philippines he gave these radio broadcasts in which he melted down to a full neo Nazi. Chess does weird things to your brain.

  10. Stronza
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    it takes far more courage to live as an outsider than it does to die in some stupid spectacle for your 15 minutes of fame

    There are exceptions. And Dominique Venner is one.

    • Christopher
      Posted February 18, 2018 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

      Nobody outside our circles and far left ones know who he is. I doubt the French press ran with the story very long. How much more influence would two more history books have had? Far more, I think.

  11. Jez Turner
    Posted February 19, 2018 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Excellent article.
    Will add this message to all white youths and white men suffering compulsorily
    imposed low self-esteem at the hands of the system.
    Tired & angry of the liberal establishment and their brainwashed masses calling you a ‘loner’, ‘misfit’, loser’?
    Beginning to believe their lies?
    Don’t. The system’s messed up, not you.
    Remember, you’re a white man and as such you are top of nature’s food chain.
    You are part of the White Race, you are part of the winning team.
    And we’re going to win.
    We are going to win and we are not going to leave any man behind.

  12. WeWuz
    Posted February 21, 2018 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    If Nikolas Cruz is white then the ancient Egyptians were black.

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