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Guy Talk, Balkan Style

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Peter Delyan was a famous Balkan hero who led an uprising in 1040 against the Byzantine Empire. Comparisons to William Wallace or Braveheart wouldn’t be out of place, as Delyan was a larger-than-life character that was able to lead ordinary peasants into battle and revolt against a larger, occupying force. I’ve spent the last week learning a lot about Delyan while visiting one of my best friends in the Balkans. Each day, we’ve been sightseeing around his hometown, all while having guy talk about history, politics, and the importance of male friendships.

By the 11th century, the Byzantine Empire was a multi-ethnic empire that controlled most of the Mediterranean and the Balkans. With imposing taxes and increasing control over the church, the subjugated people of the Balkans quickly began to resent their oppressors. Delyan, who claimed to be the grandson of the Bulgarian emperor Samuel, was able to both inspire and command various rebellions throughout the areas of what we now know today as Macedonia, Bulgaria, and Greece. While his uprising was ultimately suppressed by the Byzantines in 1041 (with the help of Harald Hadrada and his Varangian Guard), Peter’s memory and legacy still live on today, particularly with current events and demographic issues.

Just yesterday my Balkan friend and I were discussing two major issues facing the region. We talked about the recent statement Erdogan made, explaining that Turkey would no longer stop migrants and refugees making their way through Turkey into Europe. This despite all the money and funds that European countries give to Turkey each year in the hopes that they might maintain their borders. Once again, Erdogan is all but threatening to unleash another wave of invaders into Europe. While most of these invaders make their way to Western Europe and Scandinavia, the Balkans are left to deal with the garbage, pollution and property damage caused during their travels. While one could somewhat expect such actions from Turkey, our Western governments and the European Union are just as bad, if not worse.

The other issue we talked about was how local Greeks were protesting the building and expansion of more refugee resettlement camps on the Greek Islands. You would think that the Greek government, military, and police would be protecting Greece and the Greek people from foreign invaders. Yet instead of listening to the concerns and will of the Greek people, the government sent in police and military forces to arrest the Greek protestors. Thankfully, many of them have stood their ground and have continued their protests.

Being two guys, we didn’t just talk politics and current events. We had guy talk. We talked about our favorite movies and TV shows. Both my friend and I are huge fans of Mafia films. We both quoted our favorite lines from The Godfather I and II. We also compared our favorite characters from The Sopranos, mine being Phil Leotardo, a character that many fans forget served 20 years in prison. It’s been explained in other articles, but organized crime dramas appeal to guys as they portray men dealing with power, loyalty, honor, and betrayal, all while being outlaws in their societies. This is something that modern nationalists can definitely relate to.

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We also talked about music and video games of our teen years. Both of us grew up listening to heavy metal, so we talked about our first albums and the best concerts we ever attended. My friend was a little jealous that my mom took me to see Metallica, Megadeth, and Iron Maiden as a kid. We also debated which Final Fantasy game was the best of the series. His choice went to Final Fantasy XII, where I gave the stereotypical answer of Final Fantasy VI, with the caveat that I thought Dragon Quest was a better series overall.

Regardless of the topic, guy talk is important as it allows men to communicate, share advice, and most importantly, build friendships and communities. These are things that white men throughout the world lack in regards to other racial groups. When you see non-white men, you often see them in groups. Yet how often do you see a group of white men walking down the street or congregating in public? While white people are becoming minorities in their own countries, white male friendships seem to be close to extinction.

Others have discussed this issue before, but suffice to say, I want white men to form Männerbunde. Each of our guys should have a group of white male friends that they can socialize with and help each other become the best versions of themselves. This is what I’ve felt the last two weeks, being around fellow nationalists in the Baltic and the Balkans. Helping and supporting my friends in their events has been one of the best times of my life, along with being one of the most productive.

Despite the many things my friends and I have in common, we still have our differences. For example, I think Europeans have a stronger sense of ethnicity whereas Americans have a stronger sense of race. This is natural, as each group has dealt with different challenges at different rates. While I think that both groups can help each other maintain a balance between ethnic and racial identity, some groups may have a harder time than others. This week alone has been an eye-opener, as my Balkan friend elaborated on the details of the Yugoslav Wars and the US-led NATO bombings of Serbia.

In regards to the Yugoslav wars of the early 90s, neighbors who were friends one day found themselves in a position where they had to pick sides between Serbian or Croatian identity and nationality. Sometimes overnight, people who were once neighbors and friends were burning each other’s houses and raping each other’s wives and daughters.

Growing up in the US, this concept of white people killing each other is very foreign to me. While there are often rivalries and stereotypes between neighboring US states, I wouldn’t expect white Texans and white Oklahomans to kill each other if the US dissolved tomorrow. Perhaps this is a testament to the importance of having an ethnic identity with racial solidarity. While I don’t want Serbs and Croats to lose their nations and sovereignty, I also don’t want to see Slavic Europeans killing each other.

My Balkan friend also gave me a different perspective on the US-led NATO bombings of Serbia. The “official” story given by American media was that Serbia was persecuting the ethnic Albanian minority in the disputed area in Kosovo. Yet many Balkan people that I spoke to have explained that it was a certain ethnic and religious minority that was invading and expanding into Serbian territory first. And it was only after numerous rapes and murders by this ethnic minority that the Serbian military decided to step in and protect Serbian land and the Serbian people.

There were also a lot of details that the American government and media didn’t spend much time reporting on, if at all. In April 1999, the US launched airstrikes on various Serbian cities, including Belgrade, Novi Sad, Aleksinac, and Vranje. There were numerous civilian casualties as hospitals, schools, and apartments were heavily impacted. On April 12th, 1999 a US aircraft shot two missiles at a passenger train crossing a bridge near Grdelica, where approximately 60 people on the train either died on impact or were burned alive. On April 23rd of the same year, NATO bombed the Radio Television of Serbia building, where the civilian casualties are still disputed.

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So why would the US and NATO support an ethnic minority encroaching onto other people’s land and territory? The nice thing about guy talk is that you can discuss various rumors and theories, regardless of their validity. Some say that the protection of a persecuted minority was just an excuse for US companies to get access to the area’s natural resources. Another theory is that a certain ethnic group was protected by the US because this group’s criminal operations in drug trafficking were funding many of the CIA’s clandestine operations. Of course, these are all just conspiracy theories and silly stuff that guys like to talk about, like the conversation my Balkan friend and I had on who would win in a battle: Godzilla vs. King Kong? (My vote went to Godzilla.)

The Balkans are often ignored by many people in our community, which is a shame, considering that we can learn so much from the history and resilience of our Southern European brothers. They have withstood countless invasions from foreign hordes, and in many cases, they have often been on the front lines defending Europe from destruction. The various Balkan groups have also lived hundreds of years under the control of foreign empires, from the Byzantines to the Ottoman Empire. Yet time and again, they have revolted and fought against their oppressors, with countless heroes risking their lives to protect their people, homelands, and sovereignty. From Peter Delyan to the Greek protestors in Lesbos, I support our Balkan and Mediterranean brothers in their continuous struggle for independence.

Until then, I hope you can make friends with other guys in our community. Choose your friends wisely and always be a positive influence on each other’s lives. Perhaps you and your friends will meet up and hold events just like the ones I’ve been lucky enough to participate in. It all starts with a few good men, discussing the issues of the day. Having guy talk, Balkan style.



  1. Arthur Konrad
    Posted March 2, 2020 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    “And it was only after numerous rapes and murders by this ethnic minority that the Serbian military decided to step in and protect Serbian land and the Serbian people.”

    This wasn’t so brief and simple. Kosovo unrest began as early as 1980, and was being, as the Sebian expression goes “put under carpet” by Yugoslav Socialist elites. Milosevic was simply the first Serbian ruler ready to do something about it, and there was nothing remarkable in his choice of means. He also carried a huge baggage of guilt for his negligence of Serb interests in Croatia and Bosnia and had to redeem himself in front of the people. For those 19 years, the pattern of Kosovo unrest was pretty one sided – Albanians doing the violence and Serbs being displaced (student dormitories were not off limits for these valiant heroes. The corrupt media corporation known as the BBC enthusiastically reported on one instance of Albanian terrorist killing high school students with a hand grenade as “the event which put the KLA on the map”. These are the same people weeping about the refugees.). Ethnic makeup was therefore being altered in favour of Albanians ever since the 1980, and that is without even accounting for previous instances of the same conflict {during WWII for example)

    Serbian army and police special forces reaction against the militants was certainly unforgiving and decisive, but again, quite adjusted to the militants’ own manner.

  2. Posted March 2, 2020 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    How is Godzilla vs. King Kong even a discussion? Godzilla would just use his beam breath to fry King Kong from a distance.

    • Orcish
      Posted March 2, 2020 at 11:09 am | Permalink

      There’s a movie Godzilla vs. King Kong. This question has been answered definitively. I’m surprised Morgan or Lynch hasn’t reviewed it. That’s how the japs deal with third world immigrants.

    • HamburgerToday
      Posted March 2, 2020 at 11:32 am | Permalink

      In ‘King Kong vs Godzilla’ (1962) The King was resistant to Godzilla’s energy powers.

    • Dr. Krieger
      Posted March 2, 2020 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

      I’m a bit of an expert here (sad though that may be). If your talking “classic” Godzilla vs. “classic” King Kong, the fight would be analogous to the famous Godzilla vs. Bambi cartoon of the 1970s. King Kong is in the range of 30 feet tall and Godzilla has ranged from about 150 to well over 300 feet tall. It’s no contest. Kong would be a goner.
      Other commentors are right, that in the old Godzilla vs. King Kong, Kong was immune to the atomic breath and had electrical powers. He was also much taller. But this is generally considered non-canonical.
      They are setting up a new battle between the latest American Godzilla and Kong from Skull Island. In Skull Island, set in the 1970s, Kong was about 100 feet tall. He will supposedly have grown to 200 feet tall by the time he meets the 330+ foot Godzilla. I’m going to go with Kong in this fight as he has a serious advantage in agility and strength. Remember that Godzilla’s atomic breath is telegraphed as his tail lights up prior to discharge. Kong will see it coming a mile away and will easily dodge it. Godzilla better pack a lunch and bring Rodan for back-up.

      How’s that for some guy talk?

  3. Vehmgericht
    Posted March 2, 2020 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Interesting piece. The putrid Anthony Blair is, I gather, not especially welcome in Serbia …

    I note also that Turkey, the historic foe of Europe, has unleashed yet another wave of ‘refugees’ into Greece, and the BBC is yet again bleeding over the airwaves to have them admitted to the EU and beyond.

    The Corporation is at this point synonymous with treason.

  4. Grandiose
    Posted March 3, 2020 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    I’m sorry, but you mentioned Emperor Samuel and his son; you do know that Samuel literally raided everything within reach from Macedonia to Sparta, right? And the Byzantium was a European Empire, like a Rome.. theocratic but European (Imperium Grecorum). So really I don’t see the correlation between his son and the modern resistance movement. But of course that was eons ago, and Europeans shouldn’t be quarreling about such things. You ought to play FFXV by the way.

  5. Eduard
    Posted March 3, 2020 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Your friend is wrong, and is merely regurgitating typical Serbian excuses. The facts are simple and indisputable. The Albanians were 2/3 of the population of Kosovo when the Serbian army conquered the area in 1912. And of course they managed to withstand the mass murder of tens of thousands and mass expulsions back then, and more in 1920’s and 1944. They could not return the favor in any substantial way because they never could.

    And what is this encroaching thing? Where they were encroaching from? From their own land… to their own land? This makes sense? You think the Serbian and Yugoslav authorities would allow anyone to mass migrate? They were the local population that revolted against the oppression of their overlords, just like Delyan you so much admire.

    But I guess it’s ethonationalism for me and not for thee. Two millions who are the majority of the population cannot have any say or decide on their fate. They are merely “encoachers” who need to be stamped out militarily. And when third party interests get involved, let’s just mention the mere few hundreds of casualties the Serbians suffered, never mind the 8500 civilians (and 1900 militants) they inflicted. They simply don’t matter. Dare I say they are not humans?

    Maybe you should listen to some experiences from the other sides. Not merely from those who strike and then cry in pain, and have clung for sympathy like leeches to the international dissident right with their cries of victimhood for the last 25 years.

  6. Tito Epiko
    Posted March 14, 2020 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    . Putting the Byzantines and the ottomans at the same level of oppressors of the Balkan people is a bad idea.

    . The Balkans should be called Smole Europe or Europe Minor! When the ancient Greeks used to say Europe they ment what is now called Balkans and only that! Italy wss Italy, Scythia was Scythia, etc Europe was the Balkans.

    . Some ethnicities of Smole Europe relate more to the Byzantine Empire and others to the Ottomans. Although we all share a common background even from the ancient times!

    .For example the Illyrians were enemies of the Greeks but at the same time connquered by the Macedonians the took part in Alexander’s the Great spedition in the East. And even more the Roman dinasty that founded New Rome, which most of the scholars identify as medival Greek, was the so called Illyrian dinasty! Constantine and Giulian were Illyrians… Later on in modern greek history many cristian Arvanites took part in the Greek Revolution (what is wrongly called the greek war of independence) as literally the very Greek Heroes!

    . Or the Slavic People that yes they were opposed by the Eastern Roman Empire which by the time was The European Civilization, but they also gut assimilated into it and even got their alphabet from the Greek-Byzantines!

    . So all of the Smole Europe peoples share a common background from the antiquity to nowdays but somehow Byzantium gets the same as if it was ottomans!

    . So maybe that explains some of the reasons around the why do Balkan people kill eachother! Because siding with the Ottomans makes you side with the enemy…

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