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Print December 24, 2011 21 comments

The Other Christmas

Andrew Hamilton

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German translation here

No, not Kwanzaa.

Hanukkah.

It’s that time of year again: politicians around the country—city, state, and federal, Democrat and Republican, left, right, and center—congregate to display fealty to Judaism, the Jews, and Israel.

In the White House, President Barack Hussein Obama, first lady Michelle Obama, and Vice President Joe Biden, whose son is married to a Jew and whose daughter is engaged to one (Jewish grandchildren!), convened a Hanukkah celebration in early December.

Fox News informs us that

Prior to 1979, Christmas was the primary winter holiday celebrated in the White House. [That year] President Carter was the first to officially recognize the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, delivering remarks in Lafayette Park while lighting the new National Menorah, a tradition that lives on today. In 1993, President Clinton hosted the first official menorah lighting inside the White House. . . .

Twenty-two years after the first lighting of the National Menorah, President [George W.] Bush [in 2001] hosted the first Hanukkah party, with an 100-year old menorah on loan from the Jewish Museum in New York City. And with more than 600 guests attending his last party while in office, it was no small affair.

At the State House in Boston this week, Massachusetts’ Negro governor Deval Patrick, House Speaker Robert A. DeLeo, and Senate President Therese Murray lit the center and first candles on the official menorah while leading bigwigs looked on.

That’s the official menorah in the State House—brought to you courtesy of those fiercely uncompromising “separation of church and state” folks. Ah, “principle”!

In 1989 the US Supreme Court laid down a law that government “may not observe [Christmas] as a Christian holy day by suggesting that people praise God for the birth of Jesus.”

As a result, the simple display of a crèche (a three-dimensional Nativity scene) inside the County Courthouse in Pittsburgh was deemed to violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment because it celebrated Christmas in a way that had “the effect of endorsing a patently Christian message: Glory to God for the birth of Jesus Christ.”

But — a Hanukkah miracle! — the very same decision held that the annual county-city display of an 18-foot Hanukkah menorah was not a violation of the Constitution.

Although the menorah was owned by Chabad, Pittsburgh’s Lubavitch Center, it was generously stored, erected, and removed each year by the city—presumably at taxpayer expense.

What It’s All About

Hanukkah celebrates a Jewish victory over the Hellenistic Greeks of Syria 160 years before the birth of Christ. During the course of the 8-day celebration a candle is lit daily until eight have been lighted in a special candelabrum with nine branches (an extra light in the ninth branch is used to kindle the others) known as a menorah.

The reason why the Hanukkah menorah has two additional branches instead of the traditional seven is that the Talmud prohibits the use of a seven-branched menorah outside the Temple.

Both variants, however, are symbols of Judaism and the state of Israel.

Despite being one of the most celebrated Jewish holidays in the US, Hanukkah is only a minor holiday in Judaism and in Israel.

Judaism’s major religious holidays are Rosh Hashanah and the nine succeeding days culminating in Yom Kippur (the so-called High Holy Days), and Passover, celebrating the slaughter of the firstborn Gentile children of Egypt (all of them), around Eastertide.

Three Jewish eggheads (economists) noted, “This stark difference between Israel and the US in the relative importance of Hanukkah as a Jewish holiday is witnessed by each Israeli immigrant to the US including ourselves.” (Yes, they are immigrating here.)

In the US, Hanukkah has become the Jewish alternative to Christmas. Its artificial importance has been used to counterbalance, delegitimize, and trash the religious essence of the primary Christian holiday.

White Christians are left with little more than a desacralized and Judaized “Holiday Season” centered primarily on shopping and gift giving. Even the traditional “Merry Christmas” greeting has been successfully stigmatized as anti-Jewish.

The localized stress upon Hanukkah is part and parcel of a larger war against Christmas in particular and Christianity in general. Jewish hatred of Christianity is at least as intense as their hatred of whites.

Although typically not perceived as such, Jews are a population isolate. The reproductive barriers that preserve their genetic uniqueness as an identifiable breeding population are primarily social and cultural rather than territorial.

One method of maintaining Jewish identity is cultivating hatred of others. Hatred almost certainly exceeds love as an ethnically binding force. At least Jewish experience suggests so.

Even among ourselves the admonition to “love your race” is virtually impossible to live up to. So imagine how hard it would be for Jews.

The artificial elevation of Hanukkah, combined with the spectacularly successful attack on the celebration of Christmas as somehow illegitimate, and an assault upon Jews, successfully dissolved a major cultural bond uniting European-Americans, while simultaneously cementing Jewish identity.

 

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  1. Donar Van Holland says:
    December 24, 2011 at 2:04 am

    Quote: “Hatred almost certainly exceeds love as an ethnically binding force.”

    Unfortunately, this seems an accurate observation, and even more so when people are very individualistic, like whites. So I guess that although we should certainly pay attention to the quality of white culture and fight the forces of decadence, our main thrust should be to identify, expose and focus on the enemies all whites have in common: the Jews and their accomplices.

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  2. Canadian says:
    December 24, 2011 at 10:58 am

    If your G-D is YAHWEH, there all Jewish Holidays!
    The father, the son, the ghost, what does any of this have to do with us? If this is what passes for our culture, and we defend the bible stories ‘Old’ and ‘New’, then we end up celebrating one way or another Jewish myth and ingraining this into our children and our society!
    These so-called ‘holidays’ may make you warm and fuzzy, but look at their roots and you’ll see that
    they have nothing to do with You!

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    1. Gregor says:
      December 24, 2011 at 2:23 pm

      Canadian, who the hell said “my g-d is yahweh”? Imposing your language on us, much?

      The gods of Yuletide, and the traditions, history and practices we celebrate this time of year reach far back, well before the time when Desert Demon worship was forced on our people. We are slowly, but SURELY, throwing off this alien yoke, and soon we’ll be throwing off the yoke of the aliens who prefer a sand-deity to our northern gods.

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      1. Canadian says:
        December 24, 2011 at 2:45 pm

        Don’t get all defensive about that line I used! I was just using the sand-deitys Jewish title! As for your Northern gods, they’re all bullshit too! Forget about all this god crap, and live as a human!
        cheers

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  3. Eric Hale says:
    December 24, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    The Triune God is an Aryan tradition, not a Jewish one. The “One-ness” Pentecostals bring this up all the time and raise hell in the south about the supposed “heresy” of the Trinity.

    I think if White Nationalists would spend half their time re-Germanizing their local church rather than joining the Jews in their anti-Christian tirades, we could right this ship in short order.

    Just a thought.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      December 24, 2011 at 2:52 pm

      I recommend that WN Christians direct their efforts not toward shutting down criticism of their religion in our circles but instead work to shut down anti-white hatred in their churches.

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      1. Greg Paulson says:
        December 25, 2011 at 9:20 am

        Amen! Lol

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  4. Ed Connelly says:
    December 24, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Mr. Hamilton, normally a column like yours today would enrage me. As one can see from following your links, I’ve written quite a bit about this Jewish war on Christmas.

    In the past, I was angered by such relentless Jewish action. Now, however, the focus of my unhappiness is on us Whites. Let’s face it, most people WANT what’s being thrust upon us. Or put another way, they don’t really mind, as long as they can take the easy route.

    I imagine many of the more aggressive Jews are actually disappointed with the current war on post-WWII Whites; it’s just too EASY. Can’t the goyim even fight back a little? Apparently not.

    More than half the “holiday greetings” I get from White friends and family now way “Happy Holidays.” I’ve never heard even one of them bemoan this development.

    In the end, they really don’t care whose culture they live in. Or among what people.

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  5. Andrew Hamilton says:
    December 24, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    I highly recommend Ed Connelly’s war on Christmas articles to C-C readers who have not read them. Much of what Hollywood churns out is gut-wrenching in its vile hatred, and he documents the phenomenon better than almost anyone.

    As Connelly points out, we have a huge white problem, not just a Jewish problem.

    Still, there are lots of people addressing that issue, while almost no one is willing to talk about the Jewish problem.

    Jews wield power. They impose policies and behave in ways that are lethal to the white race and Western civilization.

    When a person is murdered, one does not blame the victim. One blames the perpetrator or the organized crime entity responsible for it, because murder is about power and the decision to use it to harm another.

    Also, Jews are racially dominant in comparison to whites. A less dominant race cannot be wholly blamed for the evils visited upon it.

    In the absence of Jewish power, whites were similarly dominant over blacks, Amerindians, and Asians. I am not talking about technological dominance, but racial dominance. It is a big mistake to ascribe our dominance solely to technology. Indeed, our technology was itself a reflection of racial dominance.

    What could Amerindians or blacks have done to stop us? What should they have done differently (viewed from their perspective)?

    I’m not sure that I could answer those questions.

    Some Indians and Negroes did fight back—not always ignobly by any means. But the opposition leaders could not transform their populations into dominant races and thereby stem the white tide. They were in a sense hamstrung and overwhelmed.

    Our situation vis-à-vis the Jews is similar.

    Before we can meaningfully confront the white problem (and, again, there is a white problem), we must first shake the Jewish monkey off our back. It is killing us.

    I’m not going to blame the genocide of whites on the victims anymore than I blame the tens of millions of Russians and other Slavs for their murders at the hands of the Communists who actually did the deed.

    I just won’t do it.

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  6. Andrew Hamilton says:
    December 24, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    I neglected to clarify that Ed Connelly is no friend of Jewish racism.

    He is a major critic of Jewish power, a strong pro-white partisan, and by no means a slacker on the Jewish question, unlike so many white nationalists.

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    1. Junghans says:
      December 25, 2011 at 6:01 am

      Andrew, no need to blame the victims, that’s true. The mega question is: how do we begin to ideologically detoxify the vast majority of Western Whites, who unknowingly serve and function as enablers of their own ethnic demise? The all important question should be: what is the key to unlocking and over riding the innate White psychological foibles that have enervated our racial auto-immune system, and mentally enslaved the collective psyche of our people?

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      1. Andrew Hamilton says:
        December 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm

        I certainly agree.

        But there is another side to this coin that must not be lost sight of.

        That is the totalitarian, anti-white context in which we’re forced to operate, in which everything is: head’s they win, tails we lose.

        Jews, governments, academia, and the media are obviously convinced that if conscious whites had a voice in the mass media and politics, and could organize racially, the days of their tyranny would be numbered.

        I’m not convinced they’re wrong.

        Consequently, they resort to every means available to suppress white expression in the most brutal fashion imaginable, from blowing up the Institute for Historical Review and Ernst Zündel’s home/headquarters, to brutalizing a white woman on a train who says things they say she shouldn’t.

        The question then becomes: How do we function effectively in such an environment?

        In other words, it’s not because we’re completely addled that we’re in the fix we’re in.

        We’re dumb, but not that dumb.

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  7. Eric Hale says:
    December 25, 2011 at 6:16 am

    Greg: why don’t you join us? I know you claim your “race is your religion”, but how about a little covert-ops in the churches? What the hell could it hurt? Re-Germanicize the church and perhaps, God(s) willing, we might eventually pass back through the eye of the needle to a more pagan worldview. I just see an embrace of classical Western Orthodoxy as far more pragmatic than anything else…and you will be in communication with right-wing Caucasians desperately in need of leadership away from the (dying) Christian Zionism heresy. The time is ripe for action! The Church worked with the ancient religions, was pragmatic, accepted a few small “heresies” in order to bring the pagan west to Christ. Use this example in reverse! It’s a proven, winning technique.

    I have no problem with honest criticism of Christianity, but what boggles my mind is that by rejecting Christ due to his Jewishness, white nationalists join with the Jews in their vehement hatred of Christianity! What a paradox!

    Are we really supposed to expect righteous action from our people in the name of Thor, Jupiter, Darwin?

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      December 25, 2011 at 10:09 am

      We are already seeing quite a bit of righteous action in our cause from the followers of Thor, Jupiter, and Darwin, and correspondingly low (though not non-existent) levels of said followers coming on these forums and trying to persuade Christians to stop criticizing their worldviews. And none of them counsel Christians to dishonestly pretend to be Odinists, Darwinists, etc. What is it about Christians and pious fraud?

      Jews and Odinists, Darwinists, etc. may all reject Christianity, but they do so for different reasons. The reasons are what is important, though.

      Your counsel is just the religious version of Hunter Wallace’s advice to White Nationalists to stop preaching White Nationalism and instead go “implicit” and work for the advancement of the Tea Party, Ron Paul, the Republicans, etc. My answer is the same: If we don’t advocate our views for ourselves, nobody else will for us.

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    2. Fourmyle of Ceres says:
      December 25, 2011 at 5:48 pm

      THEIR GOAL IS GENOCIDE. OURS. WHAT’S YOURS?

      Eric Hale in blockquote:

      Greg: why don’t you join us? I know you claim your “race is your religion”, but how about a little covert-ops in the churches? What the hell could it hurt? Re-Germanicize the church and perhaps, God(s) willing, we might eventually pass back through the eye of the needle to a more pagan worldview. I just see an embrace of classical Western Orthodoxy as far more pragmatic than anything else…and you will be in communication with right-wing Caucasians desperately in need of leadership away from the (dying) Christian Zionism heresy. The time is ripe for action!

      THAT is the sort of ineffective behavior that you hear from those who want us to “infiltrate” the Republican Party, and get them to adopt OUR policies on immigration as a FIRST STEP to being politically effective.

      Ineffective to them, and impotent, for us.

      The Church worked with the ancient religions, was pragmatic, accepted a few small “heresies” in order to bring the pagan west to Christ. Use this example in reverse! It’s a proven, winning technique.

      Actually, this “proven, winning technique” is anything but, for us.

      Remember, the contemporary “Christian” churches are openly hostile to Masculinity in any way, shape, or form, save the gelding leading the sheep to slaughter from the pulpit.

      And, the Old Christianity, in fact, “work(ed) with the ancient religions, was pragmatic, accepted a few small “heresies” in order to bring the pagan west to Christ.”

      After they were done, and had won, they destroyed the Pagans, and those who practiced their Traditional True Faith. I am on good terms with one pagan who is the holder of the priesthood, and his statement was simple:

      “We do not limit Christ to the Incarnation, or the time immediately following the Resurection. Reducing Him to the Incarnation as Jesus makes Him easier to be defined for the convenience of His enemies. In our day, the most prominent of these are not the self-identified ‘Atheists.’ It is the Judeo-Feminists, who seek to make Mary a co-redemptrix – in practice, the EQUAL of Jesus Christ – within Roman Catholicism.”

      I have no problem with honest criticism of Christianity, but what boggles my mind is that by rejecting Christ due to his Jewishness, white nationalists join with the Jews in their vehement hatred of Christianity! What a paradox!

      Only a handful reject Christ “due to His Jewishness,” because He was not Jewish. These pathetic fools reject Christ just as they reject Adult behavior.

      There is a rejection of what Christianity has become, in practice, at the Institutional level. Just as men are rejecting the Standard Model of Marriage (Marriage 1.0, as we call it at the-spearhead.com), so, too, are they rejecting churches that reject them. these are about two thousand men in Roman Catholic seminaries, training for the priesthood. There are sixty million Roman Catholics in America. Do the math.

      For the first time, we can see those who hate men in general, and white men, in particular, and we can decide that to play the Game is to lose the Game. Best not to play the Game, and, instead, Create a much better Game, linked to the fulfillment of metapolitical ends.

      Are we really supposed to expect righteous action from our people in the name of Thor, Jupiter, Darwin?

      Except for Darwin, YES, as the Gods will not be denied. Note that the Gods you defined are MASCULINE, aggressive, sons-of-bitches. That is what we need to tap into, and our Sons need to accept, and be able to work with.

      Christ has been perverted by the Institutional churches from the intolerant, fabricate a whip and beat the moneylender, God who told His followers to “sell all they had, even the cloaks on their back, and buy a sword.” I have NEVER seen this preached in church, and I have NEVER seen a detailed exegesis of this taught in the scripture classes.

      Do you wonder why?

      I am not saying our Sons – and, Hell, our Daughters – should wear Uru Hammer necklaces under their garments. On the other hand…

      What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

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  8. James J. O'Meara says:
    December 25, 2011 at 6:38 am

    “White Christians are left with little more than a desacralized and Judaized “Holiday Season” centered primarily on shopping and gift giving. Even the traditional “Merry Christmas” greeting has been successfully stigmatized as anti-Jewish.”

    This week I had occasion to attend one of those basement, card table, pancakes and sausages Catholic events, this one at a nun’s pro-immigrant mission to some inner-city hellhole, and not only was there a menorah present, the text for their little ceremony came from Abraham Herschel!

    Yesterday, on the radio, I tuned by the local “public” station [i.e., liberal propaganda center; why are there no neo-nazi or ‘racist’ programs?] to hear an announcer casually allude to “continuing on with our multi-culti Christmas” and wondered, why are their no “multi-culti” Channuckas? Or Eid, whatever the fuck that is [there’s a “seasons greetings” stamp for it; is it related to AIDS]? Rhetorical question, of course.

    Mathematically, if non-White holidays are full-throttle, and White holidays must be “toned down” or assimilated to the others, then eventually there will be be White holidays. but since American’s are too stupid to understand compound interest [from pawnbrokers to MF Global, now THERE’s technological progress for ya!] it’s not likely to register with them.

    I must, however, register a protest to these later remarks:

    “In the absence of Jewish power, whites were similarly dominant over blacks, Amerindians, and Asians. I am not talking about technological dominance, but racial dominance. It is a big mistake to ascribe our dominance solely to technology. Indeed, our technology was itself a reflection of racial dominance.”

    I notice you drop the Asians from your subsequent remarks, regarding “fighting back” and “why should they have, we’re so obviously superior.” The Koreans, Vietnamese and Chinese might find some amusement in your idea of “technological dominance.” Unfortunately for you, the papers are filled this week with how the Korean War never actually ended, and how North Korean could “easily overwhelm” American forces there, and how China, the “regional superpower” blah blah. So much for bombing them back to the Stone Age.

    Rachel Pollock, transsexual and Tarot writer, asked why, if “The Goddess” was so powerful, her civilizations were wiped out by the Evil Males, answered that this question itself presupposes a “male” idea of “winning”. [Ask Charley Sheen]. The Goddess simply steps aside, lies low, and waits out the cosmic cycle.

    Evola makes similar remarks in “Serpentine Wisdom” where he mocks those with “muscle bound” ideas of strength and heroism, and counsels to “look to the power of the feminine” as recommended by that wily Asian, Lao Tzu.

    Speaking of Evola and cycles, Guenon has also shown that the “dominance’ of the West is nothing to be proud of, being merely a function of precisely its relatively more materialistic, dark, tamasic nature, fitting it for this role in the Kali Yuga. Not to be proud of meaning, precisely, neither a result of our own “heroic” efforts but merely a function of larger forces, and also, the result of our dark, downward tending natures.

    The eager acceptance of “Western Ways” by many in the East is explained the same way. It is the nature of the end times that, in order for all possibilities of a given cycle to be realized, things that earlier, purer, civilizations disdained [such as technological “toys”] must be emphasized. But woe to him by whom the evil comes!

    The alternative view, Western Man expressing his natural evolutionary dominance, is of course derived from the Jewish idea of unilinear time leading to [their] triumph at “the end.” Like Evangelical apocalypticism, an ironic way to express “White” racialism!

    The Chinese have a long time frame, and your “Western Dominance” has actually lasted less than a 50 years [Opium Wars to Mao’s triumph, the Korean stalemate, the Viet Nam humiliation, and now, as USA concentrates on doing the Jew’s bidding in deserts rather than those damn’ Asian jungles, USA as the biggest debtors in history, China as the biggest Creditor in history].

    And let’s now forget how the Brits slunk out of India under the cover of darkness [at the stroke of 12, when midnight’s children are born] after they were worn out fighting for the Jew in WWII.

    Also, you can’t really talk about this “in the absence of Jewish power, ” at least if you have any remotely subtle idea of the latter. The great “world conquests” of the White man, as opposed to the local squabbles all races get up to, have been in various mixtures of the names of Christianity [i.e., the Jew god] and Capitalism [the other Jew god].

    Speaking of economics, the idea of “racial dominance” rather than “technological dominance” is also, au fond, rather similar to the Jewish idea of economics as the study of empty mathematical models rather than real history. Noam Chomsky made an excellent point about how the study of “economics” no longer includes history, making it all the easier to present what I, not he, would call Talmudic Economics [i.e., “free market” ideology] as “just the way things are.” For example, explaining the economic dependence of India on England as “the law of comparative advantage” rather than “the British rounded up all the weavers in Bombay and broke their thumbs.”

    To paraphrase Sam Spade, “technological” or “cultural” dominance doesn’t me anything without the threat of death behind it, and the Chinese just laugh at our “intellectual property laws” and wars financed on their credit card.

    In the long run, “world geniuses” like Freud and Marx have been reduced to laughing stocks. A world full of nuke suggests Einstein may be on the same road to Palookaville — thanks, Al! — and at that point we may be able to correctly evaluate Western “technological domination.”

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    1. Andrew Hamilton says:
      December 26, 2011 at 12:48 pm

      Interesting report on your recent Catholic experience. I would not have expected such a thing at such a low-level (versus higher up in the hierarchy) event, but I am not surprised to hear it. I assume mainstream Protestantism, too, is heavily Judaized even at the local level. A sign of the times. Our local Catholic church has a “cantor”; I’m not positive what that is, but I assume it’s a sign of Judaization within the Church, at least in terms of nomenclature.

      By “dominant” I didn’t mean anything esoteric. I simply meant who was objectively top dog, called the shots, imposed their will . . . racially speaking.

      In that sense, whites were surely dominant over Asians. True, if you push the argument back centuries or millennia you’re talking about a different scenario (but also, of course, in terms of Amerindians and Negroes). Asians are remarkable in having achieved a high level of civilization early, but remaining “static” thereafter—until adopting (adapting) Western technological and institutional innovations recently. I exclude the Communist interregnum, because Communism was a Jewish, not Western, ideology, and it set Asians back tremendously.

      I don’t see our former racial dominance as a function of Jewish influence (Christianity and “capitalism”). Also, I wouldn’t call capitalism or free market economics Jewish. Just as I don’t view what we have politically now as “democracy,” I don’t view the current economic system as “capitalist.” It’s sort of a socialist-fascist-financier amalgam.

      Contrary to most WNs, I also view China and Asians as extremely vulnerable to future Jewish influence.

      East Asians possess many of the vices of whites. Organized crime, widespread cronyism and government corruption, love of money and luxury, and an exploitable weakness for sex and pornography make them extremely vulnerable to tried-and-true Jewish methods of subversion.

      Jews will move in at the top of society, just as they did in the West.

      In-built Jew worship is an Asian vice as well. Akio Morita (founder of Japan’s Sony) was a notorious philo-Semite. More conformist by far than whites, East Asians will quickly knuckle under to god’s pets.

      Suckers!

      China has never been particularly warlike externally, or imperialistically-inclined. That might change, of course, after the Jewish parasite seizes control of its people’s brains. The mass media will exercise an even more powerful influence over Asians than it did over ever-fractious, individualistic whites . . . whom it turned into virtual zombies.

      As for vaunted Asian ethnocentrism, it will melt away like snow in the sunlight. A race that murders tens of millions of its own citizens (Cambodia, China, Vietnam, Korea) in the grip of Jewish Communism, or institutes for many years a One Child policy, is very white-like—in the bad sense.

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    2. bihj says:
      December 27, 2011 at 7:31 am

      Right on, O’Meara. Great post.

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  9. Andrew Hamilton says:
    December 25, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Re-reading “The Other Christmas” after printing it out, I see that Fox News is wrong about George W. Bush and the first White House Hannukah celebration, today an annual tradition along with several other obeisances by the chief executive to Hanukkah every year.

    The celebration was indeed the first [ http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/president/holiday/hanukkah/ ], as stated, but not “his last party while in office,” since it occurred near the beginning of his presidency.

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  10. flavia says:
    December 25, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Great, so we celebrate not just a Jewish holiday, but a Jewish triumph over our own people. I suppose it’s apropos. Happy holidays #FML

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  11. Eric Hale says:
    December 28, 2011 at 5:00 am

    Why do you all think the contemporary church is feminists, anti-white, judaized, etc?

    Because men like you all stopped going. Meanwhile, in your absence, millions upon millions are led down the path of destruction for our women, our children, and our race. There is nobody to stop them.

    I don’t care two hoots for the Tea Party, Republicanism, or any of the other half-assed “right wing” (yeah, right) movements out in Sean Hannityland.

    The reason that BS exists in the first place is due to widespread retreat on our part. I am just trying to think pragmatically. I am not trying to evangelize any of you. I simply want to save as much of our kind from contemporary liberalism as possible, that is all.

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