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Earlier this month, Right-wing social media star and singer PhilosophiCat appeared on an especially interesting episode of Millenniyule. At around the 26-minute mark, after discussing spirituality, atheism, and other related topics, Cat launched into a criticism of the Dissident Right which caused a bit of a stir in the chat:
Now, the Right has this problem of a tactical lag where they tend to pick up issues that are already irrelevant by the time they’ve picked them up. And I mean, this is probably going to be unpopular to say, but I hope people will hear me out. I don’t want to upset anybody. Keep an open mind.
There are certain issues on the Right that we probably need to deemphasize in our conversations, and I think one those is the issue of white replacement. This is still a critical issue in homogeneous countries, and they should still fight that fight. But in places where white births are now the minority, the demographic ship has unfortunately already sailed. And continuing to fight yesterday’s battle, especially yesterday’s battles that have already been lost, at the expense of failing to look ahead in the future and plan strategies for what’s to come, rather than what already was . . .
And an example of that is just the appalling response of many of these leading figures on the Right to properly respond to this issue of medical tyranny, because a lot of them were still too busy looking at this lost demographic battle or engaging in all manner of intellectual masturbation on the Internet. And so they didn’t see this great threat of globalist authoritarianism masquerading as a pandemic. So in this sense, the Right isn’t even reactionary, but I would like to maybe coin the term delayed reactionary, because of this tendency to focus on these already lost battles instead of the ones we can still fight. And there seems to be this huge reluctance on the Right to let go of these old issues. There’s this strong emotional attachment to it.
Oof.
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If the “oof” were a unit of pain, I would give Cat a double oof on this one. First, she’s really hitting us where it hurts, isn’t she? The Dissident Right clinging to racial issues for emotional reasons like we’re a bunch of hysterical 14-year-old girls? Oof. And second, if she’s right, we’re fucked. Oof again!
Cat’s basically saying that the Dissident Right in multiracial countries like the United States should temporarily deemphasize racial issues in the face of globalist authoritarianism because the latter issue is more pressing and the former issue has been rendered moot through mass non-white immigration. As usual, Cat is being perfectly reasonable and sincere. She appreciates why people wish to focus on race, and she does not deny its importance.
Further, she has a point. After failing with Communism and global warming, the globalists have now latched onto medical tyranny as an effective means to advance their agenda. If they win on this, everyone will suffer, not just whites. And in such a world, the racial battles we’re fighting today will become truly hopeless. At one point, she mordantly joked about how future white identitarians will be fighting to keep white majorities in their gulags. Let’s therefore set aside racial discussions for now and take on the globalist enemy, even if it means allying ourselves with other ethnic and racial groups.
Cat goes on to say:
The only issue that matters right now is uniting against this medical tyranny, this new world order, this great reset. Because if we lose on this issue we lose everything else, too, because this one is for all the marbles. If you ever want to be able to fight your demographic battles again, we have to first unite and get rid of these oligarchs that are trying to destroy us all. Then we can go back to our petty demographic squabbles. We can go back to reclaiming our homelands.
I don’t think it would be as easy as this. Various levels of white identity and race realism appear in the mission statements and About Us pages of leading dissident websites such as American Renaissance, The Occidental Observer, VDARE, and Counter-Currents. Nothing short of an invasion by a horde of reptilian robot zombies from the Andromeda galaxy will cause these organizations to deemphasize race. It’s a little bit like asking people associated with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) to deemphasize animal rights because medical tyranny and globalism will ultimately be bad for animals. They’re just not going to comply with that. The word “animals” is in their name, after all.
Further, Cat never explains why we cannot have both. Why can’t we resist medical tyranny and push for white interests at the same time? I don’t think this is an either/or situation. I’m sure that a significant proportion of white dissidents also oppose gun control. Does this mean we should all set aside our racial concerns as the Left threatens to take away our AR-15s? Not at all. There are what I call issues of the present and there are issues of the future. Gun control and medical tyranny are Issues of the present, which of course must be dealt with. After all, both evils could get a lot worse if we don’t take the appropriate measures in our established body politic. White Nationalism and similar movements such as Red State Secession haven’t come to fruition yet, which is why they are issues of the future. You don’t deal with such issues so much as lay the groundwork for them, since no body politic has yet been established for their advocacy, and you do this by attempting to win over hearts and minds.
I think Cat is confusing the political with the metapolitical here. These certainly can be pursued simultaneously.
Further, I detect a bit of naïveté in Cat’s position:
So I’m not saying this from a place of defeatism or not caring about what happens to our people, or any other people. Like, I don’t have any animosity towards other races either. And I’m sure they would all like to survive just as much as we do. And most of them don’t like multiculturalism, either. So let’s put the blame where it belongs — the oligarchs who have done this to all of us, who have lied to all of us, who have sold us this cultural poison over the last few decades — and work together to get back to things we all want, which is our own homelands, our own cultures, our own people.
The reality is that these people are in our countries and they can be leveraged against the same enemy that brought them there in the first place. I mean, use the tools you have at your disposal. Don’t be so ideologically possessed and get stuck into this spergy purity-spiraling where you’re not willing to work with somebody who would be helpful to you. Not when the media smears these anti-lockdown or anti-mandatory vax rallies as being far Right neo-Nazis. It’s a lot harder to do that when half the crowd is brown or black.
I find this idea unworkable, to say the least, and we can turn it on its head to demonstrate how. Have any non-white organizations approached their counterparts on the Right to help in the fight against medical tyranny? Imagine the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People trying to recruit the Proud Boys or the League of the South to combat COVID lockdowns. It’s silly to contemplate, because the Right — especially the white Right — is so ostracized today that no group of non-whites will have truck with them for any reason (minus the aforementioned lizard zombie robot invasion).
Secondly, while many non-whites may oppose medical tyranny (as Cat correctly states), they will never express such absolute opposition to the oligarchs behind it simply because these oligarchs in so many other ways promote non-white group interests. People like Mark Zuckerberg, Sergey Brin, Jack Dorsey, and Jeff Bezos are a boon to non-white diasporas everywhere since they guard against nativist and reactionary forces which underscore the manifest downsides to multiculturalism. Why would supporters of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Black Lives Matter, or La Raza ever denounce Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, or Amazon? They would never agree to “get rid of these oligarchs” when these oligarchs are so keen on cracking down on people like PhilosophiCat.
This leads to a deeper issue. Globalism — including its latest incarnation in medical tyranny — is inherently anti-white. Would the globalists have the pull they have today had Nazi Germany survived the Second World War? Of course not. Nazi Germany, along with the other European fascists and nationalists of the twentieth century, promoted white interests in one form or another. All of these people would have stood against mass immigration as well as the eco- and medical tyranny that modern globalists currently push. It seems that the history of the Left since the Second World War can be summed up as the eradication of all ideological and cultural conditions that could potentially lead to another Nazi Germany, and this means ruthlessly clamping down on all forms of white identity. What better way to do that than by turning humanity into a mocha-brown mishmash through immigration and by deprogramming our will to resist through draconian lockdowns and other medical mandates?
It therefore follows that if globalism is inherently anti-white, then white identity is the most effective antidote to globalism. It’s not for nothing that no white identitarian or nationalist can accurately be called a globalist. Globalism and White Nationalism are indeed mutually exclusive. If the Dissident Right can convince a critical mass of whites to adopt a racialist, pro-white attitude, that will do more to check globalism than marching in the streets, arm-in-arm with non-whites, in opposition to COVID lockdowns.
Of course, Cat may be correct in stating that the Dissident Right has had an inadequate response to the threat of medical tyranny. Perhaps leading dissidents should give this critical topic more of their attention. But in doing so, they would be acting in accordance with their pro-white precepts rather than aside from them.
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This is why E-girls’ political opinions shouldn’t be pedestaled or even taken seriously. I love how some of the guys on here enjoy attacking the America First crowd and even calling them “misogynists” at times for opposing the encouragement of these female social media personalities to give their political two cents when stuff like this just keeps happening. And for what, really? Is that woman going to sleep with you after that?
Come to think of it, this isn’t the first time embarrassing moments like this happened on Millennial Woe’s stream due to either the promotion or defense of political opinions from E-girls. I’m staring to see a pattern.
Her arguments would be bad even if made by a man. But go ahead, wrench the conversation around to your personal hobby horse.
I’ve encountered the mindset of antivaxxer protest goers over the past two years. They are not useful people for the most part. Indeed they are the least flexible and pragmatic people. Most are not going to be on board. They are people who seek distraction and evasion.
This is why E-girls’ political opinions shouldn’t be pedestaled or even taken seriously.
Men cannot short-circuit their biological drive to mate with young, attractive women. They will never take the opinions of young women seriously because they see women as sex objects. They can’t put their instincts on hold when a woman is speaking and then reactivate them.
If women make poor judgments, it doesn’t jeopardize their ability to reproduce. It’s not something they can fail at, whereas a man who makes poor judgments will be a risk to others (a wife, family, associates) who depend on him.
The dissident right believes in the biological reality of race, but it’s blue-pilled on the biological reality of sex differences.
The reality of biological sex differences is clear to those of us who’ve actually spent time around women.
But I don’t see how estrogen makes someone say, “It’s too late to fight that battle, so let’s fight this battle instead.” Thinking that just because the person who said it is a woman automatically means she said it because she’s a woman is a weak argument. Men make dumb political arguments all the time, and in most cases it has nothing to do with being men. In most cases, the more likely culprit is being a “social media personality.”
The reality of biological sex differences is clear to those of us who’ve actually spent time around women.
So much for sticking to the facts. How could you possibly know such a thing?
Thinking that just because the person who said it is a woman automatically means she said it because she’s a woman is a weak argument.
My argument is that it doesn’t matter what young, attractive women say. They could make ingenious arguments, but men won’t really care. They see young women as potential mates and so don’t scrutinize their ideas like they would another man.
“How could you possibly know such a thing?”
Look, we got another Anon Wit’ Attitude!
Bet you couldn’t snag a wife like this in a million years (I updated the link since you obviously don’t know how to work a computer): https://www.jimgoad.net/wife.png
“My argument is that it doesn’t matter what young, attractive women say. They could make ingenious arguments, but men won’t really care.”
And which Roosh V Kindle book did you buy to help you formulate that “argument”? Pray tell, what all-male online discussion group taught you everything you “know” about women?
Bet you couldn’t snag a wife like this in a million years:
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Good one, Jim.
OMC, your last paragraph is wrong. I know I won’t be able to hook up with Philosophicat because of geography, my marital situation, and other reasons, so I actually give her a fair hearing without letting primal male urges to interfere.
Mr. Goad: congrats on your happy marriage with that lovely lady. Curious, is the Missus of Persian extraction? Something about her reminds me of the Ben Kingsley character’s wife in The House of Sand and Fog, an actress whom I love. For a time early aughts, she distracted me from my Monica Bellucci obsession.
“It’s too late to fight that battle, so let’s fight this battle instead.”
This is a reasonable statement.
You can disagree with the premise (too late to fight) or you can disagree with the proposal (fight this battle instead), but it’s not, on its face, a bad position to take.
Virtually every military of political organization has had to make such a call.
When you used “pedastaled” as a verb I thought it was a parody. But it was not.
ad-verb [let us edit ffs]
“…stuff like this just keeps happening. And for what, really? Is that woman going to sleep with you after that?”
“Chad’s” comment might be appropriate if he were condemning some msm ethot. But how many years do we have to spend reading the likes of counter currents before we respect ourselves enough to know that most of us are not listening to our women because we must be imagining sex with them? Is that really what we’re thinking when we listen to some Taylor then Lana then Goad then Youcis? I’ve listened to only some Philosiphicat and I don’t agree with her statement. Yet it’s still time for sexually frustrated mgtow gorilla-energy “Chad”-wannabees to stop shaking in their boots everything a woman speaks. They’re not all bad and they’re not always wrong. We’re helping the White race, not White-Sharia tards.
E-girls? Where do you guys come up with these bs terms? To insinuate that a woman is incapable of intelligent thought is absolutely absurd. You don’t agree with something that a woman says on some particular subject? Sure, so do I at times. As I disagree with things that men say. Has nothing to do with what is or isn’t between his or her legs, but what is between their ears.
It is worth pointing out that Andrew Anglin has been staking the exact same position with respect to the “covid tyranny”—to the point that he has said race and immigration issues are irrelevant while you are required to get vaccinated. He denounced Zemmour for not talking about the vaccine. So we see the same short-sightedness from the manosphere also.
To address what Cat has said, well it’s simply not true. It was people on the DR who first took covid seriously and rang the alarm. Moldbug published an article launching an attack on Globalism on Feb 1 2020, calling for border shutdowns and a new era of political isolationism before the first case of covid arrived in the US. It turned out that Covid was only moderately more deadly than the flu—but there was a time when this was uncertain. The point is that we are always ahead of the curve but it doesn’t matter because our policy suggestions are not taken seriously.
In Canada, we had a civic nationalist anti-covid party called the PPC contending in the last election. It was their second time running and they remain the biggest party to the right of the mainstream progressive conservatives and last year they made the Covid lockdown their central issue. They won 800k votes but won zero seats, because power is not a thing easily won over from those who have it even when you have numbers on your side. And in four years at the next election these issues will be no longer relevant, while demographic manipulation will be more salient an issue than ever.
The way I see it, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Putting all our eggs in one basket would be too risky a move, and we don’t have time for mistakes. Getting the globalists off of our back, of course, would solve a lot of problems at once.
If we can’t carry out our basic objectives, what chance do we have of stopping the government-medical bureaucracy?
I can’t think of a single white nationalist initiative that has been enacted in North America, Australia and Europe. Since we haven’t had any success as white nationalists, what are the odds that we’d have success opposing Fauci et al?
Most of the major movement personalities vocally oppose covid tyranny, but does anyone outside of the movement care? If Greg Johnson wrote a CC editorial against forced vaccinations, who would take notice?
If there’s a political party, or candidate like DeSantis, who opposes vaccine mandates and other covid measures, we can throw our support behind them. That’s about all we can do, unless someone has a brilliant idea that no one else has thought of.
I’ve got bad news for you…. Actually, maybe Greg will write that article and tell you himself.
But back to the subject at hand; the comments remind me of the same type that I hear after a person of color says something even remotely “conservative.” I suggest we’ll see “Sophisticat” (gag) go the same route as Megyn Kelly soon enough.
The third world aren’t interested in fighting against medical tyranny the way Western whites are. They’ll deal it in the way they’ve always dealt with tyranny, by avoidance, bribery, corruption, nepotism, hiding in the cracks of governance. This is also true of Eastern (former commie bloc) whites. Only Western white people have the idea, right or wrong, that they can overturn public policy above board and force the powers that be to back down.
This is mostly true although there are efforts in many E. European countries to change things through referendums etc. In my personal case, I’m preparing to evade new rules using both nepotism and bribery if all else fails.
Avoiding the poison jab is important, but if the ultimate goal is the vaccine passport system, then bribery and nepotism won’t help us.
I agree that there is no reason why we can’t resist medical tyranny and advocate for white interests at the same time. I would even say that it is impossible not to. Non leftist whites despise medical tyranny, and they will remember who stood with them on that and who didn’t. This is the perfect opportunity to liberate normies off of the Trump GOP plantation, as his vax shilling looks like it was finally the final straw for many of them. Even Ben Garrison made a cartoon criticizing Trump for his vax position. Politics is the art of the possible too. If we want normies to care about our issues, we should reciprocate and care about their issues.
Medical tyranny should not be seen as detracting from racial issues, but as a bridge to our racial issues. Talk of the vaccine naturally leads to big pharma and especially Pfizer, which leads to the Jews and especially the Sackler family which also poisoned white America with opiates. The best method of red pilling our people isn’t through obscure past events like the USS Liberty, but through issues that are of immediate relevance such as Biden’s cabinet, big pharma, and the media all being extremely Jewish.
Covid was also used as a pretext to normalize mass mail by vote, which enabled the 2020 election steal, which in turn enabled more anti white policies than we have ever seen. I am no fan of democracy, but allowing the regime to rig elections, or at the least to strengthen or weaken electoral mandates severely undermines our opportunities to push for pro white policies or to use politics for metapolitics. At the very least, we need to restore election integrity to avoid another stop the steal style debacle which cost the right a lot of time and energy. Election integrity requires an end to mass vote by mail, which requires a complete and total end to the hypochondria which is used to justify it.
A great article, highly persuasive and illuminating, as always so as any other essays produced by the masterly Spencer Quinn. Also your comment presents an equally brilliant argument, in a very condensed and convincing way with great clarity that completely resonated with me. Hats off to you gentlemen. I only wish I could argue as well as you do. Truly encouraging and motivating. Thank you!
Yes, I remember wincing slightly when she brought this up. On the surface it might seem to make sense to team up and fight the globalists but it’s only white people who even frame the problem in this way to begin with.
Joel Davis has a pretty good take on it, so I’ll share it here. Please pardon the long block-quote:
Had the misfortune of tuning into this “Philosophicat” bitch on Millenniyule just now and its so sad anyone in this scene takes this woman seriously.
Her message seemed to be that Nationalism isn’t viable because muh Globalists are too powerful and the majority of people are under the spell of their propaganda so we should just give up and move to a non-Western country that won’t kill us for being white, but also we should somehow band together with normiecons against muh globalists even though this directly contradicts her other argument ??? And you can barely call it an “argument” LOL, its more just her stating opinions as though they are facts.
A sad indictment on Millennial Woes that he thinks this deradicalizing bullshit is worthy of any respect, in fact he basically just agreed with her about everything. Obviously the odds are stacked against us in this fight, but we don’t fight because winning is going to be easy, but because we have no fucking choice. We must struggle because we have no choice but to struggle, we are under attack and we have to defend our people, our families and our morals. It’s called having principles and HONOUR, of course I probably shouldn’t expect a woman or a former faggot to understand that.
Also, we must remember that this game of ours is a long-term game. We need to build organizations, institutions and parties largely from scratch and that takes time.. But this has been done before, and it could be done again if we have the intelligence and fortitude, whether we do or not is an open question but I’d much rather fight and lose and retain integrity of spirit than give up and surrender my spirit along with the battle to the enemy. We are at psychological war, and we must defend vigorously against all forces of demoralization and deradicalization. (Telegram, December 27 2021).
The last paragraph is especially important in my view. By pulling an Avengers and all teaming up to fight the Big Bad Globalists™ we risk diluting the radical core of this movement – a core that will be essential for any long-term strategy for victory. Fighting back against this tyranny without having adequate institutional power in place is a recipe for disaster and confusion.
Keep your head down and keep on building…
It’s time to dump this anti-vax psyop worming its way into dissident right circles to muddy the waters and get our movements off-target. Vaccine mandates are a blight but not the primary issue. The issue is that our rulers do not regard white replacement as an issue equally terrible and urgent as COVID. A government united in its resolve to stamp out disease and issuing mandates is a good thing, let them have this same attitude towards immigration and I’d be a happy camper.
The virus will be gone eventually, white replacement is forever.
Nicely said. You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. In fact, you ended exactly as I was going to end a comment of mine I was mulling.
Never take the focus off race. Every last other thing is secondary (or tertiary, or just plain unimportant). If enough whites can be awakened to the danger they or their civilization (or at least, for God’s sake, their children!) face if we do nothing, let alone if things continue to worsen at an accelerating clip (and they will); if enough can be reawakened to a sense of racial and cultural pride; and if we can acquire politically sovereign territory (and with hundreds of millions of whites still left in the world, we most certainly can, if we direct our wills unceasingly and uncompromisingly to this world-historical task) … then our people will saved, our civilization will endure, and all of these other problems will be resolved or mitigated in short order.
“The virus will be gone eventually, white replacement is forever.”
This.
“The virus will be gone eventually, white replacement is forever.”
The virus may be gone forever one day but the PTB in the West certainly appear to be making hay while the sun shines in using this opportunity to make sweeping changes to society that will remain in place long after Covid and likely make resistance to white replacement considerably more difficult.
The idea that Austria, for example, is mandating compulsory, regular vaccination, Jacinda Ardern foresees vaccination continuing indefinitely and the vast sums spent by various countries on vaccine passport infrastructure suggests to me that the primary motivation behind these measures may not actually be about a virus with a 0.4% mortality rate overwhelmingly impacting the elderly and the sick.
If the vaccines damage white reproductive health then is game over.
What’s going on with all the “vaccines are ok” shilling in white identitarian circles?
That chat was quite the experience to say the least. It was the second stream of Yule and the mods were just getting used to the Odysee interface so a lot of sperging got through.
You would think it odd that it was the AF/Groyper crowd that was the most hostile toward her, when she was basically espousing their multi-racial paleocon civic nationalist views. But they weren’t attacking her for her views, they were attacking her because she’s a “femoid” or whatever.
This un-ironic “incel and proud” stuff is not the right look, lads.
Get a girlfriend.
This un-ironic “incel and proud” stuff is not the right look, lads.
I’m seriously starting to suspect it’s some government-sponsored humiliation/demoralization mass-castration psyop.
“Let’s outbreed the mud races by staying 100 million miles from white women!”
Get a girlfriend.
The white fertility rate in the US is about 1.6 births per family. It’s the same story in Canada and Western Europe. Even Eastern Europe is doing poorly. Poland has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world.
TLDR: The white guys who have wives and girlfriends aren’t having enough kids to replace the extant white population. Having a girlfriend is not the issue. The issue is the choices young women are making. The advice should be “Avoid college and get married young.”
But God forbid we give young women advice! That’s what incels do. We gotta look like chads, even if it means suppressing the truth.
Women going to college is not the problem. Fertility among less-educated women is in free fall. If education were the problem, we would expect those women with the most education to have the lowest fertility. That is not the case, as advanced degreed women have more children that women with Associates Degrees. If there is a problem, it is birth control. Mr. Goad is correct. Dissident Right misogyny is a psyop.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1238603/total-fertility-rate-us-education-ethnicity/
I agree that blaming women for everything is dumb and that birth control is affecting our situation, but education still plays a significant role in childbearing. As your link shows, non-Hispanic white women with little education have the most kids, with the least educated being above replacement.
Since everyone goes to school these days, unlike days of yore when kids would drop out of school early to farm, this data shows that the women having the most kids are likely some of the dumbest women, which is not good. Men will be the same. Then you have to take into account that the poorest, least-educated white women live in diverse areas that they were too poor to abandon via white flight. So, a higher proportion of these children will be mixed race. Of course, this is not always the case as some very white, very poor areas are still commonplace.
What your data shows, ultimately, makes a lot of sense. If I were to guess as to what this info means, I’d say the least-educated white women have the most kids because they don’t spend their early 20s studying for exams. The most-educated white women have more kids than moderately-educated white women because their higher degrees generally make for higher salaries, so having children is more affordable. They’ll also spend more time earning their degrees, so they’ll wait a bit longer to have kids than poorly- and moderately-educated white women, thus, making their fertility windows smaller. The best childbearing years are behind them but they will have enough money to become mothers in their 30s or just before menopause.
This means more birth defects like Down syndrome, but also well-bred children capable of becoming our next elite.
The women in the middle, with the bachelor’s and associate degrees, probably the largest cohort, have the fewest kids because they spend a lot of time getting educated. Not enough to make having children more economically feasible, but just enough to consume their most fertile years. And, unlike the least-educated women, they’ll generally have more impulse control to prevent themselves from having kids out of wedlock or when they don’t have the finances to support children. In the cases where the least-educated women have above average intelligence, they will also outbreed these middle women as stay-at-home moms with supportive husbands. Plus, women with little education aren’t inundated with anti-family, “child-free” propaganda to the extent that educated women are.
Women with moderate levels of education are seemingly caught between a rock and a hard place. They need to support themselves financially but they can’t make enough to live comfortably or raise a family without another steady income. And that just leads to latchkey kids and general parental neglect.
What’s are the solutions?
Eliminating the “two-income trap” would be ideal. Things families need, like cars, healthy food and homes are too expensive these days while non-essentials like TVs and junk food are easily attainable for even the poorest people. Adjusting the tax rates on all of these items based on importance would be a good pace to start.
Also, our school system should stop emphasizing the importance of post-secondary education to women, who are well-overrepresented at universities. Stop making special scholarships for women too. And for women who must or want to work after high school, make their training shorter. My mom was a part time nurse. She didn’t go through any 4 or 5 year university program. She took 2 years at a nursing school. She also had many kids.
As for the upper-echelon female talent, well, I’d hate to deny the next Marie Curie from reaching her potential.
That is not the case, as advanced degreed women have more children that women with Associates Degrees.
Two variables don’t have to perfectly correlate to be related. There is a correlation between population IQ and GDP. If you plotted every nation’s IQ and GDP on a scatterplot, you would find that the nation with the world’s highest IQ is Singapore but Singapore doesn’t have the world’s highest GDP. Does that mean that there is no relationship between IQ and GDP? Of course not! You would find that IQ and GDP have a strong, positive Pearson coefficient. If you plot IQ and GDP on a graph, both move in a consistent direction.
My position isn’t one of hate towards women, but don’t expect older men in this movement to know how different the dating landscape is for men under the age of 40. Young men that I have talked to from different political spectrum’s all agree that finding a young women that is marriage material is very hard. Hell, I have seen numerous women of the right admit this in videos. Most young guys are aware that the average young women has double to triple the number of sexual partners that a young man has. It’s not really “Disinfo” spread by angry men that can’t get laid in echo chambers on the internet, its a fact that most of us young men know to be true. As far as the rise misogynistic right being a “psyop”, their might be some truth to it. Varg Vikernes said it best certain women that claim our beliefs are interjected into this movement for a reason. Our enemies know how stupid and gullible men can be when in the presence of a beautiful women. Varg gave me hope of finding a good women to have white kids with, wish he still made videos
I watched the Jim Goad interview, good to put a face to the name. I totally missed her but I think some of her points are valid, namely that “medical tyranny” is not addressed seriously or at all by content creators of the right. The only exception being Fuentes and Red Ice. This avoidance is getting more and more noticeable as the situation becomes more dire. I am a daily visitor of AmRen, Counter Currents, Occidental Observer and listen to TRS. It is only within the last week that the encroaching implementation of forced injections and vaccine inefficacy was addressed by the Death Panel or FTN. As usual for them, it was in a dismissive way, their boldest statement being, “hey if you don’t want to take it, I get that.”
I wrote a long comment-diatribe describing the ever-growing list of adverse effects, the video testimonials of people damaged by these mRna gene therapies, and links to independent research papers. And finally, I pointed out that most of the people damaged by the vaccine and standing up to Big Pharma are white middle class people, who now are left paying huge medical bills, and being censored, fired and slandered just like you.
In the end I didn’t send it. What would be the point? The dearth of content says everything, and a comment won’t change anything.
Here however, given the Philosophicat interview, I will say this. Perhaps this is a chance for the White Nationalist movement to not join arms with the enemy, but to lead. Perhaps choose to ignore the BIPOCS as insignificant in the face of a greater threat. It would be a radical gesture noticed and perhaps in time admired by normie whites at their wits end. What could be more principled than that? The long game has to start somewhere, and aren’t your friends and family the ones who face this common threat? How will you “dilute the core of your movement” by standing up against a threat to all, showing that the vilified white-race is the only group willing to stand up to the behemoth? What greater stage could you have to reveal the identity of the enemy, without even having to mention names, until the audience is properly prepared?
I had hoped it would be so, because if not you, then who? If you truly believe the often quoted ideals of truth, honor and struggle so eloquently presented here, how can you not answer the call? “Fuck ’em” is an answer, but is it the best one that great minds can come up with?
As I write this, I see an article about South Koreans protesting the deaths and damage of the vaccine. You know about Australia, Austria and Germany and what they are now imposing on their populations. Who will take up the cause? Christ, they’re not letting the elderly even buy food in Russia without the pass.
https://youtu.be/1iMrCb2rq40
I am not white, but I was raised in an America that was, and I feel I owe something to the people who welcomed my family to be guests in their home, who allowed us to grow and prosper. You don’t get to see people like us much, I know, but we are more than you think, and you should use what you got. You can kick us out when you get the ethnostate, no biggie.
She’s right about the gulags, if they can implement this world-wide, you won’t be able to activate anything from that point on. I’m sure the wifi will be good though.
Thanks for the time.
It would be a big mistake for whites to bank everything on a “great reset” no one really knows what it is about; I have yet to read a well articulated argument about the “great reset” and how it is intimately connnected to the lockdowns, and how the lockdowns are somehow beneficial to “global capitalism” and anti-white politics. All we have, including from the dissident right, are vague statements, half-baked ideas, and disconnected facts. Not even the alleged proponents of the great reset know what they are talking about; and the same goes for the vaccinations and covid lockdowns — no one has shown that there is a concerted or planned program behind it all; what I see are powerful groups making use of a real virus that escaped from a Chinese laboratory, along with real worries by some in the medical establishment, with varying opportunists exploiting the situation from multiple angles; the Dems succesfully using it to defeat Trump, online businesses making big gains along with pharmaceutical companies; but the effects of the lockdowns on many sectors of the economy have been devastating, with significant drops in government income, combined with soaring costs to deal with the health and economic fallout, and legal immigration in some Western countries slowing down considerably. As the lockdowns end, expect borders to be opened wider than ever to make up for the lack of attention to the suffering of migrants, lack of workers, etc.
no one has shown that there is a concerted or planned program behind it all
How can you not see that Western governments are acting in concert in pursuing the insane lockdown and mass vaccination measures? The broad outlines of the plan are clear enough. The globalists are setting the stage for CBDC, central bank digital currency, and Chinese-style social credit. By intentionally crashing the economy via repeated lockdowns, they aim to create such a severe crisis–energy shortages, food shortages, runaway inflation, dollar collapse–that the desperate masses will gladly acquiesce in CBDC and centralized “rescue” operations. Vaccine passports and QR codes are the Trojan horse of this new CBDC system; the technology is already in place. And once CBDC is instituted, political resistance will become well-nigh impossible. Visit the wrong website, refuse the wrong injection, and your CBDC account gets frozen or slashed. In the meantime, submission to vaccination and ritualized mask-wearing serve to destroy people’s souls and any fidelity to truth.
There are agents using this opportunity to promote CBDC and Chinese-style social credit, but there is no evidence that this is a concerted effort agreed upon and managed by a government-corporate-banking elite. There is no well researched argument out there with evidence showing that they are (which sector of the upper classes?) “intentionally crashing the economy via repeated lockdowns”. Many establishment businesses, including global companies, stand to lose from such a crash of the economy. Some forces are exploiting the situation to promote CBDC, but this is not a concerted effort with political, economic, and cultural elites all acting in unison with a clear purpose. There are a number of intersecting and countering agents involved driven by different motivations and interests.
Listen to how Ernst Wolff describes the situation.
https://youtu.be/8LYjOEib9iI
Likewise, Laurent Guyénot has a new essay making the connections. PhilosophioCat is right; haven’t seen the discussion on the dissident right of the injection that is killing White children or the Covid policies that are impoverishing their parents.
“Johnson’s Vietnam War led directly to the flood of drugs that drowned a large part of the American and European youth (as shown by Lukasz Kamienski in Shooting Up and Alfred McCoy in The Politics of Heroin). The drug explosion of the 70s and 80s produced the epidemic syndrome of immunodeficiency known as AIDS (as shown by Peter Duesberg in Inventing the AIDS Virus). AIDS became the pretext for expanding the web of financial entanglements between Pharma and the government health agencies. And, as RFK, Jr. has shown in The Real Anthony Fauci, this global “regulatory capture” made possible the pharmaceutical coup of 2020 by pandemic profiteers who are now plunging humankind into a iatrogenic nightmare.”
https://www.unz.com/article/how-lbj-mooned-america/
My Canadian friends say 400k immigrants this year, which is a big increase over previous years, even though the other party is RINO. Also, the shimmy checks create labor shortages and presto ‘we need foreigners to fill the void’.
I did a writeup here, from the horse’s mouth and based on their own public relations hype. These are just the things they’re confessing: https://counter-currents.com/2020/12/the-great-reset/
Note that globalist types aren’t going to come right out and say, “We want unaccountable international institutions run by billionaires to have unlimited power, we want the peasants completely dependent and under constant surveillance (preferably including microchipping), we’ll spread fear until they beg us for protection, and we’ll do anything else it takes to get our global banana republic.”
That said, there’s no grand unified theory here, and short of a major leak, I’d be skeptical of anyone claiming to know everything down to the last detail. If you’re looking for threads to investigate, here are some interesting ones:
Fauci saying in 2007 that he was sure there’d be a big outbreak during the Trump administration
“Gain of function” research in the Wuhan lab
The Event 201 “tabletop exercise” six weeks before the real deal
These people clearly aren’t as smart as they think they are; this is Bond villain stuff, but dumber. For further reading:
https://thuletide.wordpress.com/category/new-world-order/
You’re a smart writer, Beau, so you need to go easy on the conspiracism, which is generally the province of weak minds who have difficulty accepting the heterogeneity of motives, incentives, ‘values’, psychological differences, etc, characteristic of this thing called “the human condition”. People naturally seek to order the world in intelligible ways. Alas, the real world of society is unfathomably complex, which is why there can be hundreds or thousands of eminent social theorists, each with his peculiar focus and ensuing tiny but genuine quantum of truth. Reread Duschesne’s comments; they’re a voice of intelligence and sobriety.
Where you are undoubtedly correct is that certain powerful and nefarious elements have seen in this real epidemiological crisis opportunities to advance globalist agendae unrelated to authentically necessary disease management. “Never let a crisis go to waste”, gaffed one of their minions a dozen years ago. (Thanks for the links and work, btw.)
Just wondering, is there a better way I should be making my case? Granted, a lot of this is circumstantial, but by now there’s way too much smoke for there not to be any fire.
Add to the list a key international finance organization attempting to bribe the President of Belarus approximately a billion dollars to impose lockdowns and crash the economy, according to the following:
https://fort-russ.com/2020/09/belarusian-president-lukashenko-says-imf-offered-a-billion-usd-bribe-to-impose-covid-19-lockdown/
SP / Thuletide is an odd one. You have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. I’m convinced he’s genuine and not a bad actor from following him over the years, but he’ll often show some innocuous and unrelated pictures or tweets of some people and say it’s definitive proof of some galaxy-brain conspiracy.
@ Ricardo
“It would be a big mistake for whites to bank everything on a “great reset” no one really knows what it is about; (…)”
I urge you read this blog post on “Great Reset”.
It is well researched and based on publications and public statements by those
who want to implement it.
http://www.heartsoverhexagons.com/uncategorized/stakeholder-capitalism-and-the-soft-coup-detat-a-golden-opportunity-part-i/
Yes, it is a Soft Coup d’Etat.
The candy for the dumb and naive is called Stakeholder Capitalism. It poses a threat to traditional political institutions, stability of constitutional order itself, and representative government as established by the U.S. Constitution.
““Stakeholder capitalism … positions private corporations as trustees of society (…).”
“The Great Reset plan attempts to reconfigure almost every feature of society. Its launch of Stakeholder Capitalism, which positions private corporations to assume responsibility for the programs and powers of governments that (in principle, at least) were designed to be accountable to the electorate, is one of the most radical and consequential of its innovations. The governmental functions to be privatized under Stakeholder Capitalism include the administration and oversight of public services such as health and education services, housing, safety, transportation, and cultural events; and they also include executive, legislative, judicial, and regulatory powers. In the stakeholder model, these functions are delegated to private or quasi-governmental corporations, often through a public-private partnership, or “P3.” ”
This is as devlish as you can get !
Europe is a primary candidate to be the first for systemic collapse. The USA will probably be the last in the domino chain because of its active resistance by significant part of its establishment.
The Philosophicat’s warning about a global gulag for ALL of us is perfect.
Agree 100%
My reply did not come through; basically I don’t see a great reset on a “global scale” as this articles says; why would Russia, India or a China that is ahead with its own nationalistic reset follow a declining class of deracinated gay flag globalists in the West? Don’t think I would care about a great reset in a Western world lost to diversity and race mixing. It would be great if they locked everyone down so they could not celebrate anything.
“Don’t think I would care about a great reset in a Western world lost to diversity and race mixing. It would be great if they locked everyone down so they could not celebrate anything.”
Well said Ricardo! I would go a step further and say a great reset is exactly what we need (albeit a different kind). Just as a wise man once said, “That which is ready to fall, shall ye also push!”
At risk of pathologizing, her takes come off as wanting to hijack the focus and aims of one movement and make it about her personal priorities, similar to what a lot of AF’ers do with God. And this is coming from someone who loves women, didn’t take the Covid vaccine and preemptively found a way of living that wouldn’t be as affected by an eventual mandate. I put my money where my mouth is, but there’s a lot of Covid debate to be had in our circles still.
At the end of the day, I’m not here for the Covid takes, and no particular strain should become foundational to us. Are we already past the point where I can suggest the elderly and obese are actually dying from a virus and should consider being vaccinated? I hope not.
As far as her premise on demographics, it’s so flimsy as to not warrant much attention. But I would suggest you can only so easily discard ideas you were never that wedded to to begin with. Which doesn’t make her a hypocrite. Everyone goes through a process of discovery with phases before finding their best fit. Racial priority isn’t for everyone, even our allies or people that start out friendly or curious.
This is what makes AF so fascinating to watch. It’s one of the most successful iterations of our movement, particularly for young people, but it also has this half-baked religious priority and multi-racialism baked in that will eventually come to a head. Hopefully that looks like a whittling down to people that prioritize demographics instead of a total hijacking and reprioritizing.
‘[T]he Right — especially the white Right — is so ostracized today that no group of non-whites will have truck with them for any reason….’
This is true.
In fact, it’s so true that the enemy uses the White Right as a weapon against each other, such as the Nazis-For-Hire used in the Virginia Governor’s race.
We need to look for ways to mitigate this reality or else the rate of growth of the movement is always going to be determined by how much our enemies are driving Whites to WIN.
What would it take for WIN support on a particular populist – i.e. not-obviously-racial – to be an asset in coalition with others?
My view is that at the grass-roots level, this is already possible as long as ‘the WIN thing’ isn’t the focus of White organizing.
Give ordinary Whites a taste of getting things done that they want to get done and let them be confronted by racial animosity, and they’ll become WIN on their own while accomplishing things of political value to Whites.
Saying “that ship has sailed” and “petty demographic squabbles” could be a momentary poor choice of words. If you believe in Freudian slips, you might argue that they belie a sincere belief in the importance of race. Later in the stream, she did suggest that these are important fights, but are simply less important tactically at the current moment. I don’t know her enough to know her intent, and it doesn’t matter in any event.
Globalism works by distracting people from important issues. A climate crisis, a labor shortage emergency, a pandemic, a war in the Middle East — all serve to distract people. And while they are distracted, changes in society become entrenched.
The ship has not sailed. If you believe that multiracialism is a bad idea, then it is easier to improve the situation with 50% whites than with 35%, even if it is difficult with either. Unless you believe in accelerationism.
Note that her argument about cooperating with others to fight medical tyranny is a red herring; believing in ethnic nationalism in no way means you can’t work with people of another race or ideology.
> Globalism and White Nationalism are indeed mutually exclusive.
There is a form of globalism that is compatible — the free movement of people between nations with different characters when they don’t fit. For example, if the US split into a Left and Right US, and both had their identities strongly protected, it may well be better to allow left-leaning folks to move from Right US to Left US, and vice versa.
Of course, that isn’t really globalism, but I’m not sure if there is a word for it.
How can Nazi Germany be said to have promoted white interests? Quite apart from waging a revanchist war on its white neighbours which brought ruin and ignominy upon Germany, it was responsible for the deliberate destruction of millions of Slavic lives. Much as some of us seem to enjoy the uniforms, the Wunderwaffe and the dogged hecatomb served upon European Jewry (when the military fight was already lost), who still imagines that the Third Reich’s corruption, cronyism and economic chaos is remotely attractive to normal white people? Can we not make a case for our peoples’ survival that does not comport waltzing with lunacy?
German national-socialism of the first half of the 20th Century is a lost cause that we can well do without.
Our White race is not a lost cause, and there is no substitute for it.
These two causes are very different.
I agree with Vehmgericht.
Gonna have to push back a little bit with all due respect. I certainly do not have all the answers.
Let me just say that if we are talking about revanchism, and chauvinism, and War ─ it takes TWO to tango.
Germans and Russians both paid a huge cost for (((Bolshevism))). This was sacred European blood that should not have been shed. And Hitler would have preferred anything else.
I don’t think the same can be said of Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill. These statesmen would have happily sacrificed Poland and Finland ─ or any other country, including their own ─ to Jewish Bolshevism if it suited their vanity.
My ancestry is English, Scottish, and Welsh ─ people who crossed the Pond before the Revolution. I consider myself a Germanophile but I also love the Irish and Slavs.
World War II was not about exterminating the Jews or the Slavs. That is enemy propaganda. Full Stop.
Slav is not crypto-speak for “slave” either. That idea sounds like Michael A. Hoffman II or maybe too much E. Michael Jones.
I recently read the Michael Hoffman book Adolf Hitler: Enemy of the German People to review it, but it literally contained nothing but the dumbest schoolboy arguments.
Michael Hoffman is sometimes called a Revisionist, but here he just repeats the standard Kosher fare, and not in an intelligent way. This is not real Revisionist History. I know Revisionists and historians and Mr. Hoffman hasn’t been coming to the meetings.
This is a good example of what can happen to a dissident journalist who converts to the Latin Rite and ends up a studying history through the funhouse lens of the Bible and Talmud.
I used to enjoy Hoffman’s “Media Watch” column in the Spotlight newspaper about forty years ago, and he made some brilliant observations about White indentured servitude and wage slavery being on par in crucial ways with Black chattel slavery.
I could go on and on about “what is to be done” (an important debate) and what movement ‘spergery has already been tried in the past, but it is a little off-topic for this thread.
Basically Libertarianism is as sterile as a monk preaching family values, regardless of what dead language or rites that he washes it with.
And as Commander George Lincoln Rockwell noted over sixty years ago, Conservatism is about “conserving what is already long gone.”
At some point White Nationalism will inevitably and inexorably land on the Jewish Question and the Race Question ─ in addition to the Hitler elephant in the room.
The word “Nazi” is merely an informal German shorthand pronunciation for the word National in National Socialism.
That is a little lodestar that will help keep us nationalists on track and able to soar away from Kosher confinement. It is not about uniforms or flags because the sky is the limit not cool baubles.
This all being said, I am neither fond of esoteric nor metaphysical approaches to the Hitler question, nor excessively working-class or “punk” movement optics.
The golden historical premise is that Hitler started the war and could have avoided it somehow. WRONG.
In 1938-39 everybody had already agreed that Danzig was German, and the only question was the specifics of saving face when the Entente would have preferred war (at any cost) with any kind of non-balkanized Germany.
Furthermore, the Allied powers deeply fancied an alliance with a continental Bolshevism, at any cost, and for obvious reasons.
The last thing “they” wanted to see was:
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer
This is what we ultimately want, at least idealistically. Those who don’t are maybe not our friends.
If not, perhaps they want something that is not of this Earth instead. And if so, then why even bother with nasty material things like keeping the blood clean and the racial heart pure? I don’t see how you can have transcendence without a grounding in concrete truth.
It should be no surprise, by the way, that some of the most committed Nazis were resolute Danzigers.
The Chicago Tribune Baltic correspondent Donald Day ─ whose anarchist sister, Dorothy is on the list for posthumous canonization in the Latin Rite church as a brotherhood-of-man type of social justice warrior ─ he had a pretty dim view of interwar Poland and its colonels. Mr. Day also had a pretty laudable view of Danzigers.
Mr. Day was our guy. Miss Day, maybe not so much.
I think Poles are a fine people. They overcame War, Communism, a backward Faith, a mired and ignorant peasantry, a dead and degenerate nobility that preferred residing in prewar Paris, and an almost non-functional middle class except for the greasiest Ostjuden imaginable.
But all countries have had their less than salutary passages, and those struggles are how we learn. I am certainly willing to excoriate my own country’s past if and when justified. I also want to be fair and to honor all of our heroes.
There is one superlative Hero of the Second World War.
We can call Hitler a good Catholic and even dress him up in Wolf-fetish fur to fight the Joos, or we can call him the Antichrist who Genocided the you-know-whos and the Slavs. But that sounds more like a Christian nihilism problem than an historical one to me.
My view is that our Uncle was not the enemy of the German people, and he very much served the eternal cause of White interests and identity.
🙂
I’ll have to agree, the constant war propaganda (still kept up long after it was over) has muddied the waters tremendously.
As for Michael A. Hoffman, I really liked what he was doing earlier. But then things kind of hit the skids. What’s up with that?
VERY well said! Your words struck my heartstrings and I completely agree with your veracious and factual arguments. Thank you for your fair and accurate historical account and your gimlet-eyed and rock-ribbed intellectual perception. Maybe glorifying Uncle Hitler is not a particularly timely thing to do now and would not be tactically or optically wise, but deep in our hearts and minds, we know the truths about him. He is still one of our greatest heroes, warts and all, and his name will eventually be rehabilitated and redeemed. That day will come.
Whether it’s Philosophicat calling for us to deemphasize the Great Replacement in order to talk about the Great Reset, or TRS pushing the inverse, I grow weary of these false dichotomies.
The two agendas (White Genocide and globalist tyranny) are pushed by the same people. Never have we been given such a golden opportunity to bridge our racial concerns with normies. We can easily point out that the harshest lockdown/quarantine/vaccination policies are imposed on White nations, which in turn harms our birthrate even more than weaponized feminism and cultural Marxism ever accomplished.
And Philosophicat’s point about working with non-Whites is moot, as most people who attend anti-globalist rallies are White. Talking about demographics to conservatives and libertarians won’t disrupt Cat’s imaginary multiracial alliance.
We need to ignore the bad advice coming from both the left and the right. Anti-globalist White Nationalism is relevant now more than ever.
The people going to these rallies will not accept white advocacy. I’ve tried it with anti Vaxxers. They’ll betray you in a heartbeat.
Lol, right. At least you have Pfizer and Fauci to trust in.
A young woman told me not to get the Covid vaccine because according to her it would threaten my fertility. I felt like telling her that the fact that 51% of men ages 18-29 are single is more of a threat to fertility, and people who get the vaccine but have sex and make babies will far outbreed people who remain single and refuse the vaccine.
I’m going to counter-signal the idea that we shouldn’t care about demography with this video of non-white multiplication in the past two 220 years. https://www.bitchute.com/video/L3W7yuB5MBUC/
Combine that with the fact that nearly all of the people on the Greatest Minds list on Ranker are white, and you’ll have a good idea of the past 220 years of history. That, and maybe a set of racial bell curves for IQ. It just takes a couple seconds to sum it all up. It’s not complicated.
If Cat wants pragmatic short-run solutions, then here are mine. Christianity and Platonism evolved to combat the Roman and Hellenic Empires’ decadence. I seek to overturn neither belief system but merely to encourage young people to cease factoring money into their sense of self-worth and in that of other people. They should instead define their net worth in terms of how much they advance the interests of their genes, including how much they pass them on. So, if you have one kid, it’s 50%–at least for the first generation. If you continue, it’s 75%, 87.5%, 93.75%, 96.875%, 98.4375% for 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6, respectively. This would replicate nearly all of your genes in the first generation, but assuming a total fertility rate among your kids consistent with racial average, then you’d need to have more than six to witness nearly all your genes reach your grandchildren’s generation. Probably something like ten. A lifestyle conducive to this is one that eschews all decadence but requires a steady income, so whites should enter growing fields like medicine and tech where jobs are steadier than in others. Certain trades may work as well. This will provide the security necessary to raise a family. They should form communities with other families but not be insular like Jews, because then bad mutations will build up in the population. When all the open-minded, non-neurotics leave, the leftover people can be disappointing. Being proselytizing and not being closed off should prevent this. Relegating proselytizing to whites will maintain phenotypes and thus genes, but not everything is worth saving. Whites need to evolve to be more honest about people and stop being so polite as to erase themselves. They’d rather disappear than insult a black person by telling the truth. The sad this is that they allow Jews and psychopathic virtue-signaling whites to fire white people for telling the truth. We must still get it out there though. Covertly if necessary.
Another way to define your worth is the extent to which you help people having your genes pass them on and within a phenotype that could recreate (reincarnate) people like yourself, ie, keeping the race the same and making sure it can make more people like you. Maximizing one’s quasi reincarnation potential can be more effective if you influence hundreds of other white people to have kids rather than do it yourself. There’s going to be somebody amongst all their kids more like you than any of your kids would likely be.
Whites also need to spread social media to Africa. That, and good wages for the fathers of women and girls not yet married. They should also seek to encourage the acquisition of vast wealth as a prerequisite to having kids. Hopefully that will stop them from multiplying two-fold every 28 years– a scary idea given they have a maximal average IQ of 83 according to their genes. That’s a statistic that’s important to know. People shouldn’t let it make them depressed, but they should run away from it either. Whites have been running away from the truth for too long. Promoting pragmatic concern with daily life has gotten us nowhere. Spreading knowledge of the big picture will.
Also, generic populism in the form of anti-elite ideology coupled with solidarity with whomever is around us hasn’t gotten us anywhere either. There’s been a lot of that in the past few decades but worsening conditions for whites. People get more agreeable and pragmatic (ie, yielding) as they age, but we must resist this and continue to get the word out.
In terms of optimism for the future, the most hope lies in the medium run or the next few decades because if whites don’t change things by the medium run then in the long run or within a century there will be too few whites to turn things around. At least in America and much of Western Europe. Long-term optimism without a medium run sea change is ill-founded. The short run, ie, the next few years, looks bad, because whites are in the sorriest state they’ve ever been, but there is a little hope–the Internet. It is helping people spread the truth. Words associated with truth declined through the 20th century according to ngram, but starting in the 21st century they’ve picked up a bit. That’s a good sign. It’s a small uptick, but it’s an uptick, nonetheless. However, it needs to lead to something a lot bigger if it is to have a meaningful impact. Maybe it’s best to pretend there has been a turn-around in the next few decades and imagine what actions we can take today to make it happen.
If you’re taking a test and know you got some things wrong, it helps to keep trying just as hard because even if you haven’t been perfect, you can still pass. Whites are far from perfect. We are maybe the most common-sense lacking of all races in terms of defending our territory and genetic profile, but just because we’ve made so many mistakes, it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep trying to pass the test of existence. Regardless of what we think, the test goes on.
Anway, I wish Cat a life of peace and safety. As far as the elites, look at elite Jews and the sorts of intelligent, disagreeable extroverts studies say lie more often (and have the most upward mobility). Be it Republican pragmatic yielding on ideals to appease the left or leftists virtue signaling against good instincts, these two groups are the elites Cat should oppose, but who is it that empowers these lying upwardly mobile extroverts? Why do they have so much power in modern times? Those are the questions to ask.
I wanted to add one more bit to this 10 second history of the past century which is that the genetic basis of IQ has probably declined among whites, so a chart showing it would be necessary. Ideally, we could compare genes from a basic cross-section of whites in each century and see if genes coding for high IQ have declined. However, the dead and their ancestors prefer they rest in peace. It would just be like a posthumous checkup though. Anyway, Dutton and Woodley claim white genetic IQ may have dropped 15 points since the late 19th century. Richard Lynn I believe cites a similar number. Regardless of how many points, it seems obvious it has gone down. Lynn tells us intelligence is necessary to process and detect changes in pitch and thus melody in music, and white music has gotten a lot less melodic over the past 120 years and really the past 220 years. There aren’t long complex melodies and harmonies but quick little provocative loops. The medium of film enhances the relevance of movement since it’s mostly a visual experience so gyrating and doing provocative little twitchings to match the musical loops are popular. It’s not like traditional European dance styles which were designed usually to allow men and women to communicate physically and somewhat intimately without going as far as sex but instead it is conducive to self-referential gyrational wiggly masturbatory behavior, a grass skirt sort of primitivism property of the dancer alone. Even Trump’s debates are a bunch of silly invectives. Provocative, short little attention grabbers devoid of long-term significance–just like the music is becoming. Ever drifting to be more like a rap battle. Pithy ad hominem exchanges meant to appeal to the weeds overgrowing civilization.
I fully agree with Philosophicat.
Cat missed the mark by hitting on White Identity specifically. As Spencer Quinn eloquently explains here, to downplay White Identity is akin to giving up our reason for being.
That said, I feel like she’s trying to get at a higher point, and it’s an important one: What, exactly, is the intersection between White Nationalism and Right Wing Ideology in general? Quinn says here:
“All of these people would have stood against mass immigration as well as the eco- and medical tyranny that modern globalists currently push.”
I…can’t say the Nazis and Fascists would have stood against climate change policies, the lockdowns, or the vaccine mandates. For better or worse, they were Lefties and statists when it came to economics. They didn’t like individualism and embraced collectivism.
Its entirely possible that they would have supported policies such as a ban on meat eating, forced vaccinations, and society wide quarantines under the pretext of “protecting the White public.” I know this because half the White Nationalist movement supported the lockdowns from the start and have supported environmentalism for years.
Regardless of whether any of these policies have merit or are pushed with good intentions – I’d strongly argue they don’t and aren’t – the point is that there is an ideological question which must be addressed. White Nationalism stands for whatever policy is good for the White Race. This begs the question: Which types of policies are good for the White Race? If we agree that Leftism and Anti-Whitism are effectively synonymous, then the inevitable conclusion is that Right Wing policies – cultural, economic, social, and otherwise – are good for the White Race, whereas Left Wing policies are bad for the White Race. I feel like this maybe the point Cat is getting at, since she is undeniably a woman of the Right – and an intelligent, articulate one at that.
Just opened the link the Jim’s wife…goddamn. Anyway, sneck the window and boot out the philosophicat-calling mgtow-groyboi pests and their offshoots there to sneer and barb; they’re no less annoying than benjy bronk and harvey levin’s punchable paparazzi. I disagree in trying to split this atom into its base mono-charge constituent parts is not a desirable course of action. Anti-white viciousness, the unwanted influx of black n’ browns Europewards, magic words weaponized to slander, and the JQ or problem (Q=P) as its dark nucleus, omphalos. Keep peeling the onion, follow the yellow-brick roads all lead to White genocide whether the medical tyranny route, divinizing women with balls, detour to sapped virility or the black Sir Lancelot. Inseparable methods of the arch-agenda, not a laundry list of poli-“issues.” The bad-ass Uncle Sams and constitutionalist-faithful of a melting-pot amerika as long as done legally, these types and their dead conceptions must rally to our side-we’re not going to yours-no matter how painful and yucky defending White men, women, and children are; not this cowardly all lives matter bullshit so spineless republicans can kinda defend us but not really at riskless distance and not one word further lest b’nai b’rith go meshuggah. “If the Dissident Right can convince a critical mass of whites…” Operative word is convince. I don’t know how one can get thru to the gone who don’t see the onslaught of all that is crystal clear to us. I’m convinced they’re stupid fucks, they think we’re Heydrich and Breviks-in-the-making. The first step is them admitting that we have a problem, the abovementioned ruination. The trending of CC’s popularity I hope is progressively upward but has the cruel psychodrama of the 20’s angered the voter enough not to? Or stopped whites from buying/subscribing to companies (I know amazon is too convenient) who loathe them? I reserve hope for some youth, not the hornswoggled boomers and doomers who should know better, but I don’t want proselytism only after a good kid is attacked or loses his family.
I sit in on weekly Zooms re corona 19, the vaccine, etc. There is always a highly qualified guest speaker we listen to as well as a chat where we could make comments. Probably half the chat consisted of people who sound like they read C-C (and much worse, or better, depending on your viewpoint).
After a few dozen of these Zooms, the chat was disabled. We had been reminded endlessly by the sweet tempered moderators to be “kind” and “nice” and “respectful” in our comments, but it just didn’t work. LOL
I’m assuming the chat didn’t go the gypsy crusader or Chimpmania radio route, but these moderators can sense the dangerous anti-pc kraken lurking beneath the surface. Like these vile school boards scolding pissed parents for clapping or breathing.
@Uncle Semantic. That’s correct – no one was going the Gypsy Crusader route. Nothing of that sort. Reasonably polite, not crazy, but still, not PC. The people running these Zooms are terrified of anyone going off the reservation. They want to just talk about the dangers of the inoculation and the mental and social problems caused by lockdowns and other measures.
Great discussion of important issues and priorities. We need to continually be re assessing our options in light of new developments. But I have one question: Can anyone name the race that’s willing to be allies with WHITES in order to save us? Most minorities would be happy to see us exterminated and would toast our racial demise with champagne.
Maybe some mestizos and racialist right-wing allegiants of the copper race of the Americas. Or some east Asians, especially post-covid, with blacks attacking their people.
“But I have one question: Can anyone name the race that’s willing to be allies with WHITES in order to save us?”
No.
“Most minorities would be happy to see us exterminated and would toast our racial demise with champagne.”
Yes.
Hispanics.
Have you ever spent time behind bars? I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say no. And I’m not talking about a night here or a week there. Jail is the closest link on this earth as to who we are as people. No matter what color you are, there are basic rules as to how you deal with and/or respect your fellow man in a confined space. As to the race issue, there are rules there too as well as fundamental truths. When shit hits a boiling point in this confined space, hispanics click up with the whites against the blacks. Asians and “others” don’t like blacks either. Nobody likes blacks. If jews were easily identifiable as blacks, they would be despised and loathed as much as the blacks. Point being, whether you will admit it or not, hispanics are mostly our cousins with a lil’ indian blood in the mix.
Hi Matt
You may enjoy my review of David Skarbek’s The Social Order of the underworld, which goes over some of the things you mention:
https://counter-currents.com/2017/05/the-accidental-research-of-david-skarbeks-the-social-order-of-the-underworld/
Thanks for the link Spencer. The point of my comment is that life and how we live it isn’t just black and white, there are all shades of grey. Some shades closer on the spectrum of white, and some shades closer to black. I just believe that most hispanics act and think along the lines of white Europeans. With that being said, I believe that the two groups can find a lot of common ground. I know this statement won’t go over well with some, or a lot of people who write or read and comment on this site, but I believe it to be true when it comes to this issue.
Philosophicat’s conclusion is a logical output of a mind virus successfully implanted into the dissident right over the past two years.
Symptoms include:
Obsessing over the meaningless issue of Covid which is utterly irrelevant to the continuity of the white race, except in the few instances where it’s actually helping us by thwarting immigration and blunting the deleterious effects of globalization on nation-states.
Alex Jonesifaction of all things dissident right. The goals of the elite are no longer realistic goals like genociding the white race by importing immigrants and lowering birth rates. The plan now is an all-out zombie apocalypse, designed and realized by the elites who’s are injecting a gene therapeutic poison straight into the veins of the sheeple killing them all from prion disease. Furthermore, it is now the entire world the dissident right is concerned about, not just whites.
Whoever came up with this kosher virus sure knew what he was doing as he’s managed to infect, distract and turn so many in this movement towards an utterly irrelevant issue that has nothing to do with white people, and in some cases, he’s actually swayed leaders in the dissident right to abandon the cause of our continued existence and instead argue for open borders, libertarianism and more globalization.
Whatever your opinion is of Covid-19, the vaccine, or lockdowns the fact is that they have nothing to do with the Great Concern of our continued existence. If you don’t see that you not only fail to comprehend our problem, you are part of it.
100 % true.
The same people who are behind the global pandemic response are behind the Great Replacement (and everything else that plagues). If you don’t see that and recognize that the struggle is one and the same, you’re part of the problem.
Indeed; it’s not either-or.
PhilosophiCat correctly identifies that Whites will become a minority in America. And probably in other historically White nations too. But that’s not a reason to give up on fighting for the most important thing – our existence. We can still have a future even if we’re a tiny minority. Becoming a minority doesn’t mean we just thrown in the towel and accept extinction.
Tactically shifting talking points from racial issues to medical issues is fine, so long as tackling those medical issues is helping our people. It’s all about priorities, and the number one priority is the well-being of our people – not vaccine passports, not Klaus Schwab, not Bill Gates. These are just temporary roadblocks.
If the human species were to to successfully defeat the “great reset” and “medical tyranny”, but our race was to go extinct, then what would have been the point? It would have all been for nothing.
This post from Telegram sums it up perfectly:
“As someone who’s been sounding the alarm over the Covid-fuelled agenda in these circles since the start, the easy thing for me to do would be to react wholesale against Mark’s argument. But that would be neither productive nor prudent. Mark is clearly in favour of not complying with the tyrannical agenda and he has some valid points.
Namely:
• Demographic replacement is a critical issue, and is perhaps the least reversible.
• Some dissidents have gone off-piste and are focused on wilder theories surrounding the vaccine.
I myself have speculated at times. I stand by that and I’m always careful to point out that I am speculating. I do it because during times of chaos and tribulation a people can be caught off-guard by new, unforeseen threats if those threats haven’t been considered a possibility. However, my/our primary focus has been on the clear and present sequence of: (fake)pandemic > vaccines > vaccine passport > digital ID > social credit system > no more freedom of speech/association/action/transaction > the end of practical dissent. All available knowledge points to this chain of events.
What I would cordially suggest to Mark, and certain other figures in the movement, is that they stop downplaying the technocratic agenda or mocking those who are concerned about it (by comparing us to Q-tards etc). No nationalist I know of has dropped their concern over demographics, and I don’t even think that’s what Philosophicat meant when she made her case on Millenniyule. In fact most, like myself, are largely concerned about the technocratic agenda precisely because it will severely hinder our ability to preserve the nation, our values and its demographic constitution.
With all due respect, I don’t think some of these commentators actually realise what the agenda we’re facing is. They’ve not yet extrapolated forward the societal changes we’re seeing to the long-term results they’re intended to lead to:
• ‘Inequality’ is deemed ‘unsustainable’ within the framework of Agenda 21 = All tenets of nationalism become illegal.
• Nationhood and the democratic process are earmarked for replacement by an overtly international new form of corporate governance = No mechanism for nationalist governance.
• The climate-crisis response = Climate refugees into Europe.
• Private land ownership is ‘unsustainable’ = Absolute dependence on the technocracy.
The technocratic agenda (aka ‘The Great Reset’) is not a decoy. Trump was a decoy, and most of these nationalists calling the technocratic agenda a ‘distraction’ were hoodwinked by Trump to some degree or other. None of what I describe would be finalised next year, true. But even if their timeline is 30 years, the project is such a goliath that resistance to it must start yesterday. If I and others who’ve been focused on this turn out to be wrong, and we’ve jumped to false conclusions, great! But don’t pretend our concerns are ill-founded when we can show you the documents, the videos, the real-world changes, and explain that X is happening because the globalist agenda wants Y.
Mark even said at one point that our enemy’s end-goal is to ensure that white people are never in a position to oppose their agenda. Yeah, no shit! And Agenda 21/technocracy is the invisible maximum-security prison which would achieve that goal. They want rid of whites to achieve ultimate control, but a global social credit system would already be that ultimate control; no white genocide required.
In short, to oppose the technocratic agenda is to oppose demographic oblivion!”
https://t.me/crypto_nats/511
the clear and present sequence of: (fake)pandemic > vaccines > vaccine passport > digital ID > social credit system > no more freedom of speech/association/action/transaction > the end of practical dissent.
It’s clear as day to anyone with eyes to see. Far from being a distraction, the technocratic agenda is an *intensification* of the elite project to reduce the populace to slavery. The initial phases of this project, which centered on the massive importation of alien peoples into European lands, had the aim of dissolving the working classes’ natural cohesion and capacity for political resistance. It was a variation on the theme of “divide and conquer” –>> add incompatible races and conquer. The elites calculated that over time, say 150 years, four or five generations, the natives would miscegenate with aliens to such an extent as to form not a new race endowed with historical consciousness, but rather a permanent class of slaves, brown in skin, with no bio-cultural identity or historical memory, and therefore no destiny.
The technocratic agenda reinforces and extends the process of enslavement, and threatens to make it inexorable.
This is another relevant telegram post i am copy pasting. From the Crypto-Nats page, directly underneath the post you copied.
“I’ll point out 1 more reason why focusing on The Great Reset right now makes more sense & something I’ve already pointed out. Plus it’s something I haven’t seen anyone else say in any channels.
This Plandemic/Great Reset gave the right/dissident right a once in a lifetime chance to reach normies with our message. We’ve been preaching The Great Replacement/White Genocide for many years now & where has it got us? Let’s be honest, nowhere right. I think we’ve missed a great opportunity here because there’s a sizable chunk of the White population who don’t agree with lockdowns/vaccines/digital ID.
So we should have been at the forefront of this. Then once we have those normies listening to us we could then carefully guide them towards our other ideas like The Great Replacement by pointing out the same evil bastards responsible.”
Sorry, but I completely disagree with this.
You ask what we have gotten by promoting the message about the Great Replacement and White Genocide for years. The answer is that now these ideas have become substantially mainstreamed and significant percentages of the population believe them. More than half the French electorate believes in the Great Replacement, for instance, and the idea has been endorsed by Tucker Carlson in the US.
You are not really talking about promoting our message to normies. You are talking about replacing it with another message. But obviouly, we don’t communicate our message by replacing it with another one.
Also, the message you want to cuckold us into promoting leaves a lot to be desired. The Great Replacement is real, whereas much of what is being pushed by COVID skeptics is not only false but crazy sounding.
I’ve been really admiring her as a singer, so I’m saddened to read such things about her. In fact: I think that our rulers invented this whole “pandemic”, because they want to distract us whites from the most important poltical issue: namely the issue of our racial survival and evolutionary progress. Sad how so many pro-white people have fallen in this covid trap.
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