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Los Angeles, Sunday, November 10, 2019: Charlie Kirk’s Talking Points USA (TPUSA) organized an event at UCLA to promote Donald Trump Jr.’s new book, Triggered. But the event was cut short when the younger Trump, his homewrecker girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Charlie Kirk were heckled offstage – not by Left-wing protesters, but by America First populists. It was glorious.
I was one of them. This is what I saw.
My friends and I attended with some trepidation. We were staunch, but so few, and I wondered if there would there be plants, false flags, spergs, and so on. I was hoping to meet a few new people and keep up the momentum that others had started. Nobody thought that it would result in a decisive victory in exchange for such little effort and risk.
There is a thirty-five-minute video on YouTube of the event, and numerous small cellphone clips. Awesome as they are, even they do not capture how badass it was in actuality.
We arrived early and rehearsed our questions in case we were lucky enough not to be cucked by plants wearing backpacks to pathetically suggest that they had just sprinted from class (on a Sunday). While walking through the serene campus that was literally and figuratively above the urban squalor caused by its Marxist policies, we came across a lone man walking in the opposite direction. He had “the look”: clean-cut, good posture, and obviously lifts regularly. I wondered if he was just a generic frat bro or a fellow comrade. We asked him if he was a groyper, and got a yes. This was the first of dozens of cases of instantaneous and mutual recognition.
We walked past buildings of thoroughly European architecture in which thoroughly Jewish nonsense is now taught, passed by the Communist petting zoo containing a few lame protestors, and dutifully stood in line. Immediately, we had groyper friends. Time sped past as different bands of friends organically morphed into a single tribe. Anyone who says that America is a “proposition nation” is wrong. When real Americans meet together, they feel it in their blood.
Finally, they started to let us in. That security would be tight was a given, but it’s interesting that their security measures seemed designed to split large groups up. Divide and conquer is a time-tested tactic, but it did not avail them. It cannot work if at least two-thirds of the audience are groypers. It just added to the feeling that we were everywhere, and it helped us make even more friends.
The hall, with its quaint wooden rafters, seemed laughably small. It was barely an auditorium; more of a deluxe-sized lecture hall. There obviously had to be larger forums available on campus. It was clearly a tactic to keep us out: Rent a small hall and let UCLA students and VIPs in first. Not all of us who lined up got in, but we still outnumbered everyone else. We certainly overpowered them.
It started off with a girl in red doing pep rally-style cheers. Another girl then announced that, due to time restraints, there would no Q&A. The booing was loud and spontaneous. My previous fretting about timing our boos right and not overdoing it so we wouldn’t be kicked out was irrelevant. I don’t know if TPUSA was just being disorganized and dumb (again), or if she was a brave resistance fighter sabotaging them from within.
The initial explanation for there being no Q&A is very telling. The long video does not include it, probably deliberately because it is inconsistent with several other explanations given, one of which was that previous questions had been rude. Trump Jr. nonetheless mentioned that he had endured attacks at Leftist events that he had attended instead of being treated like a guest – despite the fact that he’s supposed to be a tough “culture warrior” like Kirk who can take criticism.
Most importantly, though, the event lasted less than forty-five minutes when it was supposed to go for two hours. It doesn’t take that long to shake hands and exchange pleasantries with such a meager handful of VIPs, and it would normally be an “after party” thing and not part of the main program. This was cowardice, plain and simple.
They had no problem trading jabs back and forth with a Muslim woman in a hijab and another liberal crybaby in the audience. Given that this legal immigrant cheered for Abu Bakr and Communist bread lines alike, I suspect that she was probably a plant; a convenient strawman to score Boomer-tier points against.
It is a lie that Left-wing protestors forced the event to end early. The few Leftists who got inside were more like useful props than a disruption.
Groyper questions hit hard. That’s why the establishment cannot endure them – or even a request for a Q&A – without rage quitting. Charlie Kirk asked some questions about Trump Jr.’s book while awkwardly sitting between him and his girlfriend. His body language was devoid of composure. He fidgeted, glanced about fearfully, and obviously wanted to retire to a tame cocktail party where nice, fake people exchange vapid pleasantries while the Republic sinks like Atlantis under a tidal wave of demographics and degeneracy.
Trump Jr. became increasingly agitated as well. He must have expected something, but not the thundering of a groyper legion. Despite the title of his book, Triggered, he was hardly unflappable. In fact, he was as triggered as any purple-haired, misgendered thot when chants of “Q&A,” “America First,” and “Build the Wall” went up. Isn’t it the Left that’s supposed to be triggered by “America First” and calls for free speech?
Ironically, the woman on stage had the most dominant presence. At one point, she told the liberals that “there are student health services available,” but the only people who needed such services that day were the cucks of Conservatism Inc.
Out of desperation, she hurled insults implying that we are incels who have to catfish on dating sites. Insulting the most ardent Trump supporters – young white men – is not a good election strategy. Apparently since we’re unfazed by the old insults of “fascist” and “Nazi,” they hope that “virgin” will work. All it does is make them look puerile, not to mention ridiculous given how chad we are. We’re thin, fit, handsome, with strong jaw lines and good haircuts, and exude a friendly confidence. The lone conservacuck who came up to us while waiting in line to simper about the plight of the Kurds (apparently they’re our second-greatest friend and ally) might have been an incel, but not us.
Despite having served as a criminal prosecutor, Guilfoyle came across as scolding instead of authoritative. I also couldn’t help but wonder how a former Deputy District Attorney could be so hostile or blind to matters of demographics. Didn’t she spend years of her life enduring first-hand numerous heartbreaking stories that could have been featured in Ann Coulter’s book, Adios, America?
It turns out that she was a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association, so it’s no surprise that she is as America First as Jared Kushner and Senator Feinstein, who likewise pledge allegiance to a foreign nation instead of the American flag. That Trump Jr. is romantically involved with a woman openly affiliated with “La Raza” should be a red flag that he, too, may have uncertain loyalties.
Conservatism Inc. will trawl the social media accounts of Nick Fuentes and others for gotcha moments from years ago while the pseudo-elites openly embrace radical Left-wing groups that hate America as if they were as benign as the Girl Scouts. Young college kids were doxed because they peacefully held a torch at Charlottesville, but this harlot is allowed to prance about the halls of power while flaunting allegiance to mass invasion. Such closet Leftists should be blacklisted as subversives. She also serves as a warning against the dangers of legal immigration. Even if we were getting the best and brightest (and they usually aren’t), they tend to use their talents against us.
The three stooges abruptly terminated their farce and then ordered anyone with a wristband to leave. The guards were visibly nervous. Total victory was achieved in less than forty-five minutes.
What happened that day must be told because it is so illustrative of what our pseudo-elites are really like and what we are actually up against. They are pathetic cowards. There was no good reason to fear us. We are law-abiding men. However, I think it was obvious to those who saw it firsthand that meme magic from Bronze Age Mindset was afoot – or something like it. This may sound like hyperbole, but it’s true. We dominated them not only physically with our high testosterone voices, but also in a psychological way with our sense of authority, and in a metaphysical way. The cucks knew that they stood in the presence of men who were not only their most important voting bloc, but more importantly, their betters. Submerged instincts that evolved over eons overtook them. That day the aristocrats of the soul, the natural aristocracy that the Founding Fathers envisioned as the proper leaders of this country, dominated through sheer will-to-power the pseudo-elites who presume to rule.
The son of the most powerful man in the world could neither tame nor debate us. His waifu was reduced to impotent scolding. I’m pretty sure that Charlie Kirk had to go cry in his safe space afterwards.
The pseudo-elites are powerful only so long as they are permitted to play their little games with no one calling them out and a treasonous media propping them up. That is impossible now, because with the Internet, if the emperor has no clothes, it’s going to go viral. All of their money, titles, and consultants couldn’t stop the groypers.
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Domination of intellectual space is easily and readily converted into domination of physical space, if we would but recognize our power and coordinate to that effect. The triumph at UCLA is proof of concept for that.
If there is one thing that the last 5 years of my life and participation in dissident politics has taught me, it is that the deep state “occupation government” that has been in power, for God knows how long, and that has circumvented actual democracy for generations, utilizes the indifference and nihilism of the centrist and moderate masses to hold onto power. They do not want people who actually care, such as Groypers, to have a participatory stake in the illusory Land of Oz production that our government actually is.
Indifference, nihilism, servitude, obedience. Conservatism Inc has done a masterful job of housebreaking and subduing the plebeians who would otherwise be the wielders of pitchforks and torches. I no longer view Conservatism as a failed and impotent strategy of weak leaders, but rather, as a carefully managed strategy of dosing out the sugar with our otherwise bitter medicine.
As a Person-Of-Boomer, the Groyper Uprising has really been an amazing thing to behold. Using ‘strong horse/weak horse’ analogy, the Groyper Army definitely seems like the ‘strong horse’ compared to TPUSA’s ‘weak horse’.
Somehow, somewhere, I have missed the definition of ‘groyper’, and have never been too sure of the definition of ‘cuckservative’ either. As an older ‘boomer’, I am still a100% a White Nationalist, as I consider this movement, especially as captained by Greg Johnson, to be a genuine life-saver for this fast-sinking country of ours. So, for those of us who do not have time to haunt esoteric white websites, please let us know what these two terms mean and why they are important.
I attended UCLA from 1968 to 1970 (BA, Art History) during its riotous years and it seems nothing has changed. I will certainly NOT be ‘remembering them in my will’. What saved me then was my acquaintance with the daughter of refugee Russian aristocrats who had fled to Belgium in the 1920’s, where my friend was born. They later emigrated to the U.S. in the 1950’s and she educated me as to the “glories of life under communism”. She and her family were my first introduction to ‘aristocracy’, and specifically old world white aristocracy and I have never forgotten them. This is the life I dream of being recusitated in America. We had it in the beginning with our founding fathers and our pioneers, and anything CC can do to ‘make it so’ once again is my dream.
These are simply meme words that help to categorize groups. After all, this is a culture war we are fighting, and all wars need to have belligerents and allies easily identifiable.
“Groyper” is basically a slang meme term, I have no idea from where it originates (I’m guessing either the 4-Chan or now defunct 8-Chan Anon [Anonymous]websites) It seems to be a play on “Goy”, which is a Hebrew term for “nations”, and refers to any non-Jew in a derogatory word. So, much like the use of the N word in the black community, the word “Goy” has been adopted by white nationalists to designate any white person who is subject to Jewish power or influence. You can also argue that non-Jewish POC are Goy as well, but if you are J-woke, you understand that they are pets and useful tools to be used against the European goyim.
The Groyper, in a more specific sense than “white nationalist”, seems to stem from a less purely white nationalist mindset. Somewhere between alt-light civic nationalist and American nationalist. They are certainly identitarians, and seem to strongly connect with Catholic/Christian traditionalist right wing dissidents (though not absolutely so). In the case of Nick Fuentes, there is certainly a Catholic/Christian traditionalist element.
They don’t run from demographics as an issue, nor do they run from the Jewish question, but they tend to frame it more in terms of “endless wars for Israel” and the problems of dual citizenship rather than Jews having a hand in every bad or evil thing that ever happens.
They are first and foremost “America First” and interweave the notion that a white majority is necessary to maintain what is left of civilization in the west.
They also have a heavy presence on Twitter.
As far as cuckservatives go, this is another word for the neocon. But it is a little more loosely applied, and can envelope all so-called conservatives who are Zionists or who fail to strongly support positions or policies that are nationalist and traditionalists. In other words, a cuckservative is today what a liberal was 20 years ago. They follow the same trajectory as liberals, and offer very little resistance…if anything, they only act as speed bumps, and never offer an alternate vision by which to motivate people. It is the politics of fear, and only HESITANT acceptance of the trajectory that progressives are steering us on.
I disagree with your definition of cuck. The cuck, unlike the neocon (who is basically just a Zionist liberal from the pre-1970s), is a real conservative (though not necessarily a WN) who immediately abandons any conservative position, no matter how foundational to conservatism, if adherence to that position is revealed to somehow violates the genetic interests (racial power interests) of nonwhites. Traditional conservatism, eg, supports the death penalty. The cuck will support it, too, until some minority starts screaming about how the racially neutral application of capital punishment disproportionately ‘impacts’ minorities.
A worse and more blatant example of cuckservatism – the most sickening I can recall – involves the recent spate of cuckservative whining about how university affirmative action admissions policies are unfairly hurting Asian-“Americans”, while failing to note how these same policies have been ruining the life prospects of White Americans (esp male ones) for the past 50 years. If whining about the injustice to Asians while remaining silent about the far greater and longer mistreatment of Whites is not cuckservatism, I don’t know what is.
To further elaborate at the risk of being overly graphic,..the word “cuck” is now American slang for an increasingly widespread kind of sexual deviance and a resultant pornographic genre in which a husband or boyfriend derives sexual stimulation from watching his wife or girlfriend engage in sexual intimacy, intercourse or otherwise, with another man, especially when the cuckholded man is physically present and assists the process. Hence, a cuckservative is a nominal conservative who witnesses his own folk and country being penetrated, miscegenated, and pillaged by alien invaders, almost as though he experiences a visceral or psychological pleasure from his disgusting passivity and fake virtue. My 2 bits.
Thank you for your reply and explanations. This is something I will have to study a bit more about to get my head around. Everyone on this site is a lot more educated than I about political theory and all levels of philosophy. I simply see my American life and my travels in Europe being vastly swamped by immigration from the third world, which I fear will destroy our art museums and libraries, and thus our very European lifestyle, history and civilization. Now I shall pay much closer attention to the philosophical basis that many of you are deeply involved in using to explain this invasion and disruption to ‘white’ life. Thanks for being patient with us ‘latecomers’, but believe me, we are the ones who really feel this in our ‘gut’.
Alexandra, we have lived parallel lives. We are of the same age. I was studying Engineering at college in those riotous years 1968 to the 1970s of the Vietnam war; our college echoed to the chants of “Ho, ho, ho, Ho-Chimin.” Ho-Chimin was the leader of the North Vietnam and the hero of the left-wing students who politically dominated the campus site. And I saw how weak the conventional Conservative “right-wing” students were. It decided me later to join the ranks of the Nationalists. I too have met some amazing individuals from Continental Europe, whose experiences and sufferings and acquired wisdom were so much superior to anything the average Anglo-Saxon knows. I have never regretted joining the ranks of us who strive to resuscitate our White world.
Post script: last week-end I was campaigning in Bielefeld , Germany for the release of a 91 year-old woman, Frau Ursula Haverbeck, locked up in the local jail for the expression of her non-violent opinions. Perhaps CC will publish an account of this brave woman’s ordeal; Ursula Haverbeck is exactly of the same mould as the Russian aristocrat you spoke of.
The British site of gives an account of Ursula Haverbeck’s fate and ordeal.
The British site of Heritage and Destiny gives an up-to-date- account of the fate and sufferings of the ninety-one year -old Ursula Haverbeck.
I am pleased to find one kindred soul here, though I am sure there are many more, and will be more yet as people over 65 begin waking up to the wreckage in the U.S., as well as noting the same in Europe while ‘touring the continent’. I was vastly shocked to see that the English flag is not allowed to be flown in England anymore (not the ‘Union Jack”, but the St. George Cross of England alone) because its ‘red Cross pattern’ offends ‘the immigrants’ by reminding them of the 12th-13th Century Crusades! Immigrants throughout Europe are offended by any number of everyday ways of life in Europe, such as eating pork — which is really a ‘poor-people’s food’ because it is easy and fast to raise pigs. European art and literature is offensive as well, as are Christian churches dotting the landscape. This all worries me very much. And living in Southern California for much of my life and seeing it overwhelmed with primarily Hispanic culture, and 50 or 60 more small enclaves of other immigrant cultures as well, has opened my eyes to the danger of our ‘disintegration’ as a people, if not complete extinction. And for these observations, I am called a racist. So, here I am. I have over 20 books from CC and am reading like mad!
As a postscript to Richard Edmonds — I am very sorry to hear of the plight of this elderly lady in Germany, Ursula Haverbeck, who has been jailed — for God Sake!!! — for her small comments about the ‘changes’ in her life and society. We are really going off a cliff over this insane ‘political correctness’, which is nothing other than pure censorship! We really have to put a stop to this now!
It’s funny, I was watching a left wing Jewish political commentator on Youtube trying to imply that the disagreement between the groypers and TPUSA was all about the branding of the right. He tried to explain that TPUSA wants to rebrand the right with transgenderism, immigration, gay rights, catering to minorities and other progressive talking points. The groypers, he implied, wants to push what the right has always stood for such as racism, homophobia, transphobia, welfare reform, closing the borders, white advocacy and all of the usual things of which leftists typically accuse us. The funny thing is he seemed nervous. No one is buying into this fake political show anymore. Whites are beginning to wake up and are seeing that both sides are controlled by the same people. This has to be making the architects of all of this insanity nervous.
The Left is always wary of any expression by ‘the forces of reaction’, which is to say virtually anyone who doesn’t take the knee to the latest Leftist idol. The American Left has been on a winning streak since FDR and know that their ‘arc of history’ is largely unwanted by at least half-of the US population, but also understand that the perception that they are the ‘strong horse’ in American politics is all that keeps a significant number of people in their camp. They can’t afford to lose any battle, no matter how small, in order to keep this perception of their invincibility.
There are some on the Left that see the Groyper/TPUSA conflict as simply an internecine battle on the Right. The Jewish political commentator is rather more astute. This conflict is stRiki-Eiking at the heart of the liberal alliance that often masquerades as a Left/Right conflict on the surface, with the Left always winning and the ‘weak horse’ Right coming up with a ‘conservative case’ for some thing the Left created.
The Groyper War has already done significant damage to TPUSA and if the Groypers can consolidate territory in order to move forward, one of the obstacles to a genuine populist right wing — Conservative Inc — will suffer loses. The basic idea, I think, it to take care of the traitors in one’s ranks before approaching the real enemy too closely.
I feel like an old person admitting this(I’m in my mid 30s) but I had to look up groyper on knowyourmeme. Good stuff.
It’s refreshing to see these people get run off like that. I, too, am sick to death of conservatism, INC. Those who think of themselves as gatekeepers for the movement have thus far failed to conserve anything, and seem to be willing to go along with anything progressives want, just a little slower.
The conservatives should have no problem defending their ideas against rebellious kids. However, they don’t want to defend unpopular positions. Not in open debate.
On several occasions I’ve gotten the D.A.R.E vibe from all this. That anti-drugs program from the 1980’s we had the unfortunate pleasure of witnessing. Turns out a certain percentage of drug use can be traced to being caused by the program. The GOP/DARE same energy. It also reminds me of evangelical Christians who try to “attract the youth” by having hip and cool rock n roll hip hop boogey woogey Church, and then being a total front for zionist neo-conservative propaganda. I mean these things really describe American culture in general, not just the GOP, but the GOP exemplifies grifting so well. Every thing fake, everything a grift, conservatives who don’t conserve, anti-drug programs that cause drug use, churches who promote the devil etc etc. It’s all very Zizekian, American politics is the chocolate laxative, the non-alcoholic beer etc. Well things are getting real again thank God. Cheers
I’ve been quite enjoying following this groyper harassment of the fake political spectacle that is American politics. What stage of society are you in when there is an all out war over the very meanings of words like conservative, progressive etc. A war over how our very historical legacy is defined, a war for the past and therefore present. While anyone could have seen this coming, the movement that elected Trump is only growing in the face of Trumps total failure, duh, it’s still refreshing to see this energy get momentum again without Trump and in some cases explicitly anti-Trump. We don’t need the GOP. The GOP needs us. The fact that Trump boy junior and his latinx milf don’t get it is… well it’s probably just end-of-game elite hubris that our guys have written about for thousands of years.
To the posters wondering what a groyper is. A groyper isn’t a vague chan meme, it was created by specific people and has somewhat specific origins and is still considered to be owned by a specific group who are all still active on Twitter (youtube was involved in the very very beginning if I remember correctly). I kind of saw it grow from the ground floor so I felt the need to comment (without specifics unfortunately). If you remember one thing about groypers, it’s all about drinking tea and being cozy on the timeline. I think most the originals aren’t even that impressed by Fuentes taking hold of the meme and making his own thing with it; but most people understand that these things have their own legs once released into the wild, or in the groypers case three arms.
This is why our movement is still in the intellectual gutter/ghetto…..one doesn’t conquer overnight, it has taken the left, 100 years to get to point to destroy America……i have been in this movement since 1970s…..& was in National Alliance…..The Conservative revolt is first stage…..Stage 2) Revolutionary Conservative Stage…..Stage 3) Pan European Victory……it took the German movement from 1918 to 1933, to take power…..i will go back to reading, Melville, Poe and Hawthorne, until this movement wakes up….retired US Army, combat vet…..
… to the WN movement, I mean.
Add Ezra Pound and Alexander Solzhenitsyn to your reading list ! And Rudyard Kipling… and of course, Greg Johnson!
I have read all of those writers…..the complete works……im reading all the published works of the ‘Red Wheel’, currently….I support CC, and everyone moving us forward…..I have organized, ‘European Civilization & Culture’ reading groups in Montana and Wyoming…..most of these people, are young men, in their 20s & 30s….their ideas are amazing, and will bring us to Victory…
Just wanted to say as a semi recent UCLA grad, it made me feel good to hear your compliments about the campus. I remember graduating with a lot of resentment for precisely the negative things you described, but it is undoubtedly a beautiful school, and it’s nice to acknowledge those things too.
Hopefully academia returns to something respectable again. I think the only remotely “red pilled” thing I ever saw while a student (and it wasn’t even red pilled, just common sense) were a mass of flyers posted on buildings of Kate Steinle with the caption that she also had dreams. Groypers of course have upped the ante ten times.
Good article.
Tpusa has a young black leaders conference, a young Latino conference and is rife with Hebrews. But white identity is considered “EVIL” by Charlie Kirk and his pay masters. Nuff said.
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