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The Antifa Distraction

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A few weeks ago, the town bum wandered into a local coffee shop. He began telling a table full of high school girls about the dynamics of urine.

“When you’re dehydrated, it’s a dark yellow color, but when you’re not, it’s almost like the consistency of water,” he said in many more words than this. He seemed very adamant that they understand him, as if he needed them to nod their heads in agreement. At first I thought I’d get up and tell him to leave them alone, but they smiled and seemed to relish in the opportunity to show kindness to one of the “least of these,” so I decided to ignore the ordeal.

A few minutes later, he shuffled over to me and started to deliver his unseemly lecture.

“I don’t want to hear it!” I interjected.

“Okay,” he said meekly, and shuffled off. I didn’t want to be mean, but I wanted to discourage him from delivering that manifestation of his mental illness, since it wasn’t exactly a crowd-pleaser. Plus, I was busy writing something on my laptop.

The platitudes which the Antifa spouts are about as enlightening as the bum’s bathroom observations.[1] In other words, we’ve all heard them before. But at least the bum cared about whether his audience understood him. Many Antifa seem to yell into the wind, “howling gigantic curses,” as Marx wrote in one of his poems.

The reason why they act in this way may have something to do with their personality type. INFP and INFJ types were found to be the most likely to be member of the Democrat Party in a study from 2000. From this we may conclude that they are the most disposed toward Left-wing beliefs. Interestingly, INFJ and INFP also register high on Enneagram Type Four, which is “expressive, dramatic, self-absorbed, and temperamental.” If that doesn’t describe Left-wing demonstrators, I don’t know what does.

Observe this red-headed fellow. He makes his oration as if in a trance. He channels some emotion from deep within and formulates it into a conspiratorial complaint. His comrades later sit around him, probably viewing his outburst as a manifestation of enlightenment.

It seems the Antifa and their ilk get a kind of psychological release from their antics. Certainly, their satisfaction cannot be intellectual because they seldom debate with ideological opponents. When they do, it ends up being nothing but a shouting match, with the Leftist doing most of the shouting. In short, Antifa and their kin are not the Left’s mind, but rather its heart – and sometimes its muscle. While it may be productive to try to debate a YouTube channel host like (((David Pakman))), it’s hard to have a conversation with a member of the Antifa who is either screaming hysterically or trying to physically assault you.

Studies of Right-wing people’s Myers-Briggs types may help to explain their relationship with the Left. If we assume membership in the Republican party circa 2000 to be a worthy proxy for Right-wing beliefs, then types INTJ and INTP are among the most likely to be Right-wing. INTJ and INTP also frequently register as Fives on the Enneagram Personality Scale. Type Five, the Investigator, is described as “the Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, and Isolated.” For Fives, “Knowledge, understanding, and insight are . . . highly valued . . . because their identity is built around ‘having ideas’ and being someone who has something unusual and insightful to say. For this reason, Fives are not interested in exploring what is already familiar and well-established; rather, their attention is drawn to the unusual, the overlooked, the secret, the occult, the bizarre, the fantastic, the ‘unthinkable.’” If this doesn’t describe the typical Counter-Currents reader, I don’t know what does.

It seems that clashes between the Antifa and smarter members of our movement would resemble a conflict between Fours and Fives because, as stated earlier, the most Left-leaning types are INFP and INFJ, and they tend to be Enneagram Fours. According to Enneagram, “Fives can see Fours as bottomless pits of emotional needs who drain their time and energy. Fives also feel that Fours’ emotionality reflects a lack of rationality or is a sign of immaturity that seems potentially dangerous and out of control. Fours in the lower Levels do not seem safe because of their apparent instability. [Yes, Anfitas are in the lower levels.] Fours tend to be easily frustrated with the quality of attention they get from Fives . . . [Much of the modern Left is about getting attention for being a special snowflake of some kind.] . . . [T]hus they tend to provoke the Five until they get a response.” Maybe this is just confirmation bias on my part, but I find the similarities striking between Fours and Antifa striking. In any case, one need not despair if he/she is both a White Nationalist and INFP. As we will see in a future article on racial differences in MBTI types, whites are INFP relative to other races. Interestingly, Fours, which include many INFPs, have the need to “create an identity” as their basic desire. Richard Spencer must be speaking to them, and in a weird way, the white race at large when he tells them to “become who they are.”

In any case, regarding Antifa, we shouldn’t let them drag us down to their level. More importantly, we shouldn’t let them occupy too much of our time. (I know they’re occupying my time at the moment, so sorry for being a little hypocritical.) See, by attempting to take up our time, they’re much like the bum who wanted to subject me to his urine speech. With their compulsive antics, they are distracting us from doing important things.

White Nationalist views are scarcer in the marketplace of ideas than multiracialist ones. For example, even the corporations Antifas claim to hate promote multiracialism. Public schools and most parochial schools in America enforce diversity, from kindergarten through graduate school. The media churns out news events, TV shows, and films that disproportionately have a “non-white victim, white perpetrator” paradigm that leads whites to apologize to non-whites for alleged wrongdoings and rally to their aid.

Demonstrations in favor of multiracialism do not add much to the mass of material that already exists, but in contrast, our views add significantly to what most people know. Granted, most whites already implicitly agree with white separatism as they flee to the suburbs, vote for Trump, seek out “good schools,” or choose co-racials as dating partners, but they seldom hear white identity expressed in explicit terms. Pouring a drop in a nearly empty glass counts a lot more than pouring it into one that is already overflowing.

We therefore have a comparative advantage over the Left when it comes to sharing our beliefs. In other words, our events, protests, and so on go farther.

Although we don’t want to let the Antifa and their allies distract us from this task, it is still necessary to circumnavigate their attempts to block our free speech. It would be nice if a few good, strategic minds could specialize in dealing with them, so that the rest of us can focus on the message.

As a final point, our movement is filled with people who love speaking the truth, but who have a tendency to speak off the cuff, which may prove problematic if it leads to discussing evasive measures which are better left secret.

If you’ll forgive a sportsball analogy, we should be like Patriots coach Bill Belicheck, who stands nearly mum in front of the media rather than discussing a play and describing strategy that a future opponent might be able to cue in on. With this in mind, we can best aim to peacefully spread our message in a manner that spares us from having to deal with too many of the Left’s bums.



1. Speaking of Antifa and urine, Antifa members dumped urine on Matthew Heimbach during a demonstration in Washington, DC a few years ago, which tells us a bit about many Antifas’ overall sense of fair play.

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  1. Type Lord
    Posted March 1, 2017 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    Keep enneagram but drop MBTI for socionics.

    • Faustianovich
      Posted March 2, 2017 at 5:03 am | Permalink

      Why MBTI? Its far more elegant taxonomy than Enneagram. INTJ really is such a dominant type in right wingers (and pretty rare in general population), which is pretty accurate description of our situation.

  2. Samuel Nock
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 4:40 am | Permalink

    When I saw the copy of “Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self-Discovery” on the shelf of a used bookstore years ago, I expected I would leaf through it for five minutes and put it back, as I am not a “self-help” type. I ended up engrossed in the store for an hour and purchased it immediately.

    It was as clear as day I am a Five.

    You didn’t mention that Four can be a “wing” to Five, and vice versa, so despite the seeming opposition, there is a strange affinity between then, that comes together in the “Iconoclast” (Five with a four wing) and the “Bohemian” (Four with a five wing).

    Fascinating article, thank you!!

  3. GenYES
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    In order for our ideas to colonize the entirety of European society, we need to hack the psychologies of each Myers-Briggs type. That subject matter would make a very interesting workshop topic at a gathering. The observation about the need for identity and Type 4s is very astute.

  4. Sam
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    Hitler was an INFJ. INTJ’s BTFO’d.

  5. biology
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    myers-briggs (MBTI) & enneagrams are shoddy science. real (empirical – not armchair) personality research comes up consistently w/ “the big 5” factor model (“ocean:” openness, conscientousness, extro/introversion, agreeableness, neuroticism), though data also support squeezing out a 6 factor model ( sorry, the reality is more boring than the MBTI & enneagrams. MBTI & enneagrams are fun, & for armchair measures they actually overlap with reality pretty well! & people respond to them better than they do to the boring empirical personality research. so, there’s that. also, I’m an INTP 🙂

    • James Dunphy
      Posted March 2, 2017 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

      Thank-you for your input.

      You must admit though that political leanings different quite starkly in certain mbti types so they’re getting at something that is very relevant in the real world.

      But ultimately you’re saying that I should look for correlations between five Factor model and things like political affiliation et cetera.

      • biology
        Posted March 2, 2017 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

        you’re right, & those are fascinating empirical questions you are looking into. I wonder: are we “preset” to be right-ish or SJW-ish (e.g., how much of my alt-rightness now is b/c my brain was preset that way?), & what relationship is there between personality & political beliefs?

        sorry for my earlier crankiness – i taught MBTI stuff 20-30 years ago, but by 20 years ago the research was becoming more clear & consistent re: the big 5 (or is it 6?:) I abandoned personality variables for ability, which is the most valid, reliable, replicatable, heritable & predictive psych construct:) but – personality is next in line! sorry i don’t follow personality research more closely.

        Briley & Tucker-Drob (in press) have an interesting meta-analysis in the Journal of Personality that looks at lifespan heritability of ability vs. heritability of personality (the latter’s heritability actually decreases a bit with age & is made more stable across time by environmental factors — somewhat the reverse of ability!) sorry for the digression

        the main current research will look at personality variables & political beliefs, but i wonder if there’s been any looking at alt-right things! you are totally barking up the right tree, but probably your independent variables need to be brushed up into the big 5 or hexaco ones – can’t wait to read your next article – you are investigating very good research questions!

    • James Dunphy
      Posted March 2, 2017 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

      When writing future articles on MBTI I will look for five Factor data on the same subject.

  6. Niko
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    It really is a waste of time to try and engage with these people. Although it would be interesting to see a debate between a far-leftist and an alt-rightist(I’m an ENTP btw), it is a distraction to seek out engagement with a group who, by-and-large, simply want to do violence to us- to suppress us. It’s just who they are.

    Yet, we need a strategy for dealing with them because they aren’t going away; and as we grow, they will grow in intensity and determination to stop us. More and more leftists will gravitate into antifa(cycle threw it) I think as the left panics at our success.

  7. Jan y
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    I’m INTP and a leftist, but identify a lot of truth in this. On a personal basis I’ve always found that, beyond politics, I tend to get on better with right-wingers.

  8. Santoculto
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m a mix of INFP and INTP

    ”Fours are self-aware”

    OK, how antifas can be self-aware if they tend to suffer from severe Dunning-Kruger syndrome*

  9. Santoculto
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    ”Healthy Levels

    Level 1 (At Their Best): Profoundly creative, expressing the personal and the universal, possibly in a work of art. Inspired, self-renewing and regenerating: able to transform all their experiences into something valuable: self-creative.

    Level 2: Self-aware, introspective, on the “search for self,” aware of feelings and inner impulses. Sensitive and intuitive both to self and others: gentle, tactful, compassionate.

    Level 3: Highly personal, individualistic, “true to self.” Self-revealing, emotionally honest, humane. Ironic view of self and life: can be serious and funny, vulnerable and emotionally strong.”

    ”Unhealthy Levels

    Level 7: When dreams fail, become self-inhibiting and angry at self, depressed and alienated from self and others, blocked and emotionally paralyzed. Ashamed of self, fatigued and unable to function.

    Level 8: Tormented by delusional self-contempt, self-reproaches, self-hatred, and morbid thoughts: everything is a source of torment. Blaming others, they drive away anyone who tries to help them.

    Level 9: Despairing, feel hopeless and become self-destructive, possibly abusing alcohol or drugs to escape. In the extreme: emotional breakdown or suicide is likely. Generally corresponds to the Avoidant, Depressive, and Narcissistic personality disorders.”

  10. Santoculto
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    I find myself more in this three types.. It’s difficult at least for me to fit only in one type if we tend to be a frequencies of all this types and sometimes more a mix of unhealthy levels in one and healthy levels in other.

  11. Steven
    Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Of the personality types I would definitely say 5 describes me the most.

  12. Santoculto
    Posted March 3, 2017 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    I never see introverts as very related with leftism even we know there are this types (or subtypes} among them. New Leftism look a extroverted ideology in a set of features: outgoing, sensation-seeking, little responsibility, excess of ”positivity”, superficial thinking-style, narcisism.

    In other hand conservatism seems more like a introverted ideology: more critical, more reserved than outgoing/social , more cautious, more formal than flamboyant…

    But i think this introverted conservative seems more characteristic among middle and upper classes and less among ”working classes”.

    Interestingly or not extroverted tend to be more conservatives based on ”neuropoliticals”, probably because both tend to predominates in population. I think many social causes gramcists stole for themselves have a ”introverted appeal” and we know at surface many things they advocate it’s not wrong, only or specially the anti-white propaganda, this is their Achilles’ heel.

    I think the average leftist is extroverted and not ”sensitive, self aware (lol!!) and introverted”.

    Individualistic/ self-centred AND extroverted, maybe the worst combination possible.

    AND apophenic.

    They are the ”new christians”.

    • Santoculto
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

      Leftists tend to be also super agreeable and socially conformist but we don’t know if this social conformism is intrinsic or circumstantial, because they tend to believe “the west is/was in the right path”.

      Indeed is extremely easy control the borders and increase fertility of white people namely those on the middle and upper classes.

      Anjoooisch sabotage, it’s the core of current western decadence, pure and plain sabotage.

  13. Santoculto
    Posted March 3, 2017 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Leftist leaders, classical psycho or sociopaths = poor sense of smell

    Leftist supporters, otherwise* people who fear so much the leader/sociopath who become a pussy of them* = excellent sense of smell / of fear*

    conjec, 😉

    • James Dunphy
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:34 am | Permalink

      One could administer a smelling test to people without telling them the reason for it and then gather data on their likelihood of psychopathy, taking into account of course any sinus congestion or nasal disorder.

  14. Ted
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    I was motivated by these comments here to take one of those free online tests (of unknown quality) and got INTJ as the result. Besides personality type, political orientation may also be linked to disgust threshold:

  15. Posted March 9, 2017 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    It would have been a good idea to define the Myers-Briggs types at the outset, or at least give a quick link to someplace that does, and what the letters stand for, rather than assume all or most readers will be totally familiar with this.

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