Voice of Swedish Nationalism
Saga & Her Music

14 comments

1. mysmajcus says:

   September 17, 2011 at 2:50 am

   Very beautyful songs. Especially Evig Trohet from the Pro Patria album. For everybody that like Saga I can recommend Ultima Thule which are also available on youtube.
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PJ6nYfLrJw

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2. Joe Owens says:

   September 17, 2011 at 8:56 am

   RAC consisted of skinhead’s hell-bent on fighting and escapism (and getting pissed). Sadly, Saga’s music will just be another form of escapism for the already converted (those who do sod all). Those who follow the likes of Ian Donaldson and Saga are in it for music and not ideological commitment (getting off your arse and knocking on doors).

   The skinheads who followed Skrewdriver were a waste of space. They never contributed anything constructive to the Nationalist cause or its future. In fact, they were a visible embarrassment to us all. Ian Donaldson was killed by driving a defective car. Never was there any government conspiracy to silence a skinhead singer. MI5 do not go round murdering people in the UK. Skinheads and their music were/are an embarrassment to British Nationalism. In fact, it was the National Fronts choice of embracing subculture music that finally destroyed its youth wing (i was in the NF at that time).

   Looking at the audience in one of Saga’s videos (Finland) says it all! Also, rehashing (with different lyrics) Phil Spector’s Wall of Sound is inherently floored. This music will be the downfall of Nationalism.

   Let’s leave music out of the movement. We need fighters and heroes, not singers, with drums, guitars and skinheads.

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   1. Fourmyle of Ceres says:

      September 17, 2011 at 4:13 pm

      Question for Joe Owens.

      I think your analysis of the skinhead “movement” is spot on.

      My question is, what could have been done – SHOULD have been done – instead of the way things developed?

      I saw the audience in the videos you referenced, and ask if someone like Saga looked, and thought to herself, “The best Idea in the world, the best Ideals in the world, and this is what we attract.”

      We are doing something wrong, and it can not be that difficult to turn it around.

      I would appreciate your ideas on what you would have done differently, particularly with the NF and the skinhead “Movement.” Are there lessons here for all of us?

      Thank you.

      What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

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      1. Joe Owens says:

         September 18, 2011 at 4:27 am

         Ceres, thanks for your reply/questions.

         The movement (National Front) of the 1970’s (with hindsight) should have kicked the marches and meetings in the head. It should have concentrated on knocking on doors and talking to people (like the bnp was once doing. It’s now stopped this due to enemy infiltration). It was due to the violent confrontations with reds it attracted skinheads in the first place. Had the NF not been brought to the attention of skinheads via punch – ups at meeting and marches, history would have taken a different path. But once the skinheads had attached themselves to the NF (and British Movement), the NF’s days were numbered.

         The movement has foolishly tried to borrow from its enemy, the very tools that are destroying us. We can’t repackage punk, skinhead, heavy metal, black metal or a thousand and one other post 1945 sub – cultures. We need to stick to the path of cultural renascence no matter how tempting the latest youth craze is. The very system spawning such poisons is doomed to fail by default. We can’t heal the sickness with repackaged germs.

         Our movement must be one that preaches Health, Beauty, Toughness and Winning. So let’s stop being afraid of alienation those attached to dead – end causes. If they can’t see what needs to be done now, they never will do.

         Leave them to sing, dance and get drink…

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      2. Fourmyle of Ceres says:

         September 18, 2011 at 5:48 pm

         Joe, thanks for your considered comments.

         We are fighting the genocide of the White Race.

         I can only imagine Saga looking over the audience, and saying to herself, “the best Idea in the world, the best Ideals in the world, and this is what we attract. I can now understand that the skinheads were the sad, pathetic losers they chose to become before Skrewdriver gave voice to their issues, and the NF was coopted as a political force. What’s wrong with this picture, that the race that gave us Goethe, Schiller, the Luminist School of Painting, well, literally all that is good and right in the world, seems stuck in neutral – think Onslow, if you will.

         Music should inspire. I read an interview with Saga, where she described when she began to Walk The Path. She was listening, and heard Ian, and Skrewdriver. This brought forth one of those moments like Harold Covington experienced in the parking lot at Chapel Hill High School, following his graduation.

         I like your ideas of intelligent organization and disciplined activity. I wonder why we keep falling into the traps set for us. I know we shall prevail, eventually – we must – but the demoralization process described by Bezmenov has led to what Greg Johnson described – they have been defeated, have surrendered, and are essentially going through the motions.

         Joe Owens in blockquote:

         The movement has foolishly tried to borrow from its enemy, the very tools that are destroying us. We can’t repackage punk, skinhead, heavy metal, black metal or a thousand and one other post 1945 sub – cultures.

         This is critically important. Yesterday is gone, and the people who adopt the Forms of Yesterday, without having the substance that made those Forms the appropriate response to that particular Cultural Moment, act like participants in a cargo cult.

         They do need to be inspired, they do need to be led, they do need Better put before them.

         I agree that turning Onslow into the masculine counterpart of Saga might be quite challenging, but we must Do Something to remoralize our people, and countervail against the demoralization the Enemy has used to attack us, with the intent of committing genocide against the White Race.

         We need to stick to the path of cultural renascence no matter how tempting the latest youth craze is. The very system spawning such poisons is doomed to fail by default. We can’t heal the sickness with repackaged germs.

         Wouldn’t such a cultural renaissance take place beginning with us being the yeast in the loaf, that could change the loaf, in time? Shouldn’t we follow the example of the Gramscians, in their Long March through the Institutions? Wouldn’t the place to begin be the churches, which we could attend while moving towards the development of parachurches, home churches, working with the home-based schooling community to establish new churches, leading to new communities, leading to a new Racial Homeland?

         Isn’t the real starting place where we are, transforming our own lives into the living foundations of a new nation? Isn’t that what people who experienced that initiation moment, like Saga (and Harold Covington!) are trying to do?

         What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

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3. Vick says:

   September 17, 2011 at 2:11 pm

   There are large swaths of popular music that are implicitly white – country and metal, for example. It doesn’t seem like the pro-white movement needs to “claim” these types of music but merely educate and encourage our kids to like them and learn how to play them.

   But if you want to go that extra step, education in traditional white music is a good thing. Where was your family from in Europe? What was the traditional music like there? Learn about it. Listen to it. Classical music is very much a traditional white musical form as well.

   And going even further, I don’t see anything wrong with explicitly pro-white music, especially of Saga’s variety. She’s great. Her own songwriting can be a little hit or miss (perhaps she should team up with some songwriters to help out), but the woman can sing. Plus, when I’ve seen her interviewed she seems as articulate as anyone could want. If she can have some crossover appeal then more power to her. Why wouldn’t the pro-white movement want that?

   Explicitly pro-white skinhead and metal bands have a limited niche appeal but some of them are damn good (especially Skrewdriver, of course). On the other hand, when such music get less about “blood and honor” and more about “hate rock” then yes, such music just sets itself up for the mainstream media to point to as a prime example of the crazy shit white supremacists are up to. Sometimes I wonder if the most extreme bands are more about some desire for self-alienation than about any sort of thought-through political expression.

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4. MOB says:

   September 17, 2011 at 2:21 pm

   Beautiful post. I sent Saga’s Ode to a Dying People to all my relatives last year. It’s amazing to read the words you posted, radical, determined. How can anyone imagine that Music can be put aside? My God! It’s sacred! All Kinds!! Here are four of my favorites – strength, beauty, intelligence, character – it’s all there:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvElljzi7rE&NR=1&feature=fvwp

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QA7UU2R-hQ&feature=related

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt-X0DGHvfI&NR=1

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg5r7Xi5RpM – (ignore first 20 seconds)

   John Curry’s Scheherazade (1980 Professional Version) is also wonderful, but I chose Grieg’s Nocturne above.

   I have more in different styles; one day I found myself organizing them in the categories we talk about: Protest – Culture – Sex – Strong Men – Strong Women – like iron shavings, they seemed to fall into place. : )

   I have to confess, there’s an Irving Berlin – it’s impossible not to absolutely love it !!!

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5. Fourmyle of Ceres says:

   September 17, 2011 at 4:02 pm

   Ward Kendall in blockquote, cited in italics:
   Joe Owens: “Let’s leave music out of the movement. We need fighters and heroes, not singers, with drums, guitars and skinheads.”

   You do have a point. In its heyday, William Pierce’s National Alliance destroyed much of its credibility by promoting such musical ‘gems’ as Vaginal Jesus and Grinded Nig via its online store, hypocritically promoting ‘family values’ by a certain NA member who later went on to become a registered sex offender. The white advocacy movement simply does not need to market ‘tattoo tunes’ to further its viability amongst whites.

   My respect for the good Pierce did is more than balanced by the lack of better, for want of a better word, that he did not let happen. There is a fine line between indifference, and animosity revealed in passive aggression.

   The idea that Pierce would go to such lengths to avoid political organization, which was what so many were looking for, says more than many in the WNist Community would feel comfortable seeing.

   Can you take an organization seriously that on the one hand writes of the the best we could achieve – Kevin Alfred Strom – and on the other hand, promotes “bands” that certainly undermine all of the words he says?

   No.

   This is active demoralization, one of the most effective techniques of The Enemy. Pierce seems to have supported it by leading his followers to a point, and never going past that point, or even mentioning it explicitly. Pierce, often reading from scripts written by Kevin Alfred Strom – good scripts, by the way – would fire up the troops, and lead them…nowhere.

   So with the music. It could have been an opportunity to teach music that would help inspire the soul, leading the listener forward (for example, teaching them bel canto singing, and why it matters) but that would have been effective.

   We can’t have that, can we?

   Vaginal Jesus, and Grinded Nig – the preferred music of the Piercians at the National Alliance. Such music certainly supported the Piercian Plan of political ineffectiveness.

   All you need to know.

   What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

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6. DR says:

   September 17, 2011 at 7:06 pm

   Stop bashing the skinheads, they are the first to have the guts to go on the streets when other WN hide in their houses and wait the messiah.

   ITALIA
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUY55hUnGM
   FRANCE
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrXgirreG40
   GREECE
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcYPqYhw8YQ&feature=related

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7. Fourmyle of Ceres says:

   September 17, 2011 at 11:18 pm

   DR in blockquote:

   Stop bashing the skinheads, they are the first to have the guts to go on the streets when other WN hide in their houses and wait the messiah.

   DR, think it through. The skinheads go in the street – AND THEN WHAT?

   Well, in our case, they make fools of themselves, give a very poor impression for the media (deliberately, more often than not), get sent to the emergency room, dodge the repo man, go back to the bar and get drunk – again. Full employment for the bail bondsman, though. Yes, I really want to join up with them!

   The essence of Leadership can be summed up in two words – “Follow Me!” Who in their right mind would follow these failures anywhere?

   Think it through. Look at all of the incredible efforts Uncle Adolf had to put into forming the NSDAP into an effective political force. Now, ask yourself why the skinheads never made it to the next level, but are stuck in essentially oppositional defiance, an adolescent state of mind.

   Recognize they are battling a deliberate plan of genocide, and are reacting in a nihilistic manner; they have already been defeated before they take to the field of battle.

   How much better to look at them, find the salvageable ones, and help them to Make Something Of Themselves. How much better to offer them a framework to develop in?

   We have to start doing better, much damn better. We DO have the best Idea, we DO have the best Ideals, and we DO have the damndest group of embittered failures out there claiming to represent us, and what we stand for, to one degree or another.

   Uncle Adolf said, when the NSDAP was being started with a scant handful of supporters, they had plans to be the vehicle for the fulfillment of an ideology. Yes, this required lots of political tacking, but the metapolitical end he served proved most beneficial, for the German people.

   What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

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8. Fourmyle of Ceres says:

   September 18, 2011 at 10:59 pm

   Andrew Hamilton has given us a remarkable analysis. Thanks very much for that. The best summary I have seen of Skrewdriver calls forth some questions.

   Andrew Hamilton in blockquote:

   Perhaps a better way of expressing the relationship, though, is to say that Saga makes Skrewdriver accessible. It’s much easier to see Skrewdriver lead singer-songwriter Ian Stuart Donaldson’s (1957–1993) considerable accomplishment, musically, lyrically, and ideologically, if you approach him through Saga.

   This is a stunning insight, which does not detract from either artist.

   In addition, Donaldson possessed organizational ability and marked leadership qualities. You have to be able to look past the rough edges of his skinhead persona (which was 100 percent genuine) in order to perceive this.

   Is this why he was so successful, and so few others had the ability to stand in his shoes? Is it that Donaldson could actually organize – a radical concept among WNists, to be sure – with a strategic purpose in mind? Was his “leadership” abilities, combined with this talent, what posed such a threat – a real, “Lead From The Front” type who could articulate a revolutionary vision for a social order that had rejected him, first along class lines, and then along Racial lines?

   Donaldson (also known as Ian Stuart), a northwestern Englishman of Scottish descent, formed Skrewdriver as a punk rock band in 1975, but the group subsequently evolved into the first major white power/skinhead band in the world, famed throughout Europe.

   Note that this was just after the OPEC destination embargo of 73-74, a pivotal moment in Western economic history. It had to have been obvious to Ian that things were declining, rather dramatically and rather obviously. His solution seems to have had two components – (1) Identify the Deep Enemy, to the extent possible, and (2) Inspire his listeners to find their testosterone button, and dial that baby to “10.” Every time I hear him do “Stand UP!,” I think, “Damn! What assertiveness! What firepower! Why don’t country music bands do covers of this one?”

   I see it, and please correct me if I am in error, as the realization that his generation of his Race were being thrown over the side, and knew that neither choices offered by the political system were effective choices, for the working class types he came from, and who favored his music, and his message.

   Donaldson and his band were harassed by authorities and by anti-white domestic terrorist groups unofficially sanctioned by the government. Donaldson was convicted and served time in prison. He was killed in an automobile accident in England at age 36 at the height of his fame. Like Saga, Skrewdriver had to release its music through small, independent, non-Establishment labels and distribution channels.

   This is the Big Question: What did the government see in Donaldson that called forth the systematic response that we see? Was it that Ian could be the Next Step in being the blue-collar Leader, a dramatic counterpoint to Enoch Powell? Could it be that Skrewdriver might have done an album called “Rivers of Blood?” Powell could be fenced off from the masses by virtue of his class. Donaldson couldn’t have, try though they may. It might be that, at a certain point, Ian rejected the “paste-glass jewel of middle class respectability” (HT: Alex Linder) and formed the foundation for an authentic political Movement?

   The blue–collar, working class, two-fisted, natural Leader and organizer version of Enoch Powell, with nothing, and nothing to lose, could have inspired a true political Movement; skinheads are certainly roundheads, after all!

   The oppression and violence the group experienced perhaps explains the disproportionate emphasis (that is, in comparison to the indifference displayed by most WNs) on freedom of speech and thought in many of Skrewdriver’s (and Saga’s) songs and lyrics.

   Point taken. Most people do not want freedom, or, more exactly, they do not want to accept the responsibility that comes with freedom. They want liberty; the liberty to be libertines.

   Nor does it escape my attention that the words in the following song were written by a man, loathed by Jews and government officials who had employed violence and repression against him, who was ultimately killed prematurely in an automobile accident.

   Yet, to my memory, he never named the Jew. He always spoke of “the Reds,” and “Communism.” Was this from his realization that he had to get on the board, first, and then make changes?

   Final Question: If he was alive today, and in his prime, what would he do, and why?

   Thanks for your patience in reading this longish answer. I have always wondered how the Authorities turned all of the skinheads into Onslow. And, isn’t it ironic that Ian Stuart speaks best to us today through a very upscale young lady in Sweden?

   What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

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9. Joe Owens says:

   September 19, 2011 at 7:10 am

   No musical genre (whatever it is) is going to RALLY OUR PEOPLE! All it will do is turn them into pleasure seeking fools. Sigmund Freud’s “pleasure principle” is riding high amongst those who follow today’s music. Freud’s disciples know this only too well. Sadly, most on our side don’t seem to have noticed.

   Here are those about save us…LOL!!!

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH34nU12QiA&feature=related

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10. Andrew Hamilton says:

    September 19, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Fourmyle of Ceres:

    Thank you for your comments and queries. You read the article with close attention, which I appreciate. You’ve given serious thought to the subject—something I had not done previously.

    I think for my article later this week I’ll set forth some random thoughts about Ian Stuart and Skrewdriver (since article-wise I feel written out at the moment), and in the course of it try to respond to the major questions you raise.

    It’s not that I’m an expert on Donaldson or Skrewdriver—far from it! My attention was drawn to him only because of Saga. Still, we all have ideas and opinions about music, celebrities, and so forth, even when we’re not experts about the subjects in question.

    I do think that your statement, “His solution seems to have had two components – (1) Identify the Deep Enemy, to the extent possible, and (2) Inspire his listeners to find their testosterone button, and dial that baby to “10”” is correct. The natural ability to inspire is strong in his music—in fact one of its most prominent characteristics.

    When I referred to organizational ability I was thinking primarily in terms of his musical endeavors and relationship to the NF. As far as I’m aware he did not have any personal political ambitions.

    Donaldson did name the Jew. In fact, Saga removes some of these references in her covers. I cited two examples in the article: in “Free My Land” she replaces Skrewdriver’s lyrics “run by Jews” with “run by who,” and in “Hail the New Dawn” the words “Never gonna submit to the six point master plan” have been substituted for “Jewish master plan” in Skrewdriver’s 1983 original. He also wrote of “Zionists.” I think Saga may have done this due to hate speech laws that have been imposed since the songs were written.

    I do not know enough about Stuart to answer the question, ” If he was alive today, and in his prime, what would he do, and why?”

    Finally, to readers in general, I know it is tempting to skip URLS offered without much explanation (or even offered with explanation!), but you may want to check DR’s 3 links in defense of skinheads in his post above. They are worth taking a look at. The two longest are about 5 mins. in length; the third about 2 mins.

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    1. rdub says:

       September 20, 2011 at 8:02 pm

       Stuart indeed did name the enemy–check out “Voice of Britain,” where he refers to the Zionist media, the “leeches of the nation…”

       Without getting into too much hyperbole, I see Stuart the same way I see George Jones–no, seriously–they both utilize simple, straightforward song structures and lyrics; compare the short, plain words repeated throughout. Very lowbrow, not complex, non-intellectual, but somehow the emotional resonance is there. The words blood, nation, soil, heart, fire…are all repeated throughout Skrewdriver’s lyrics. Simple, evocative words. Unpolished, sincere vocal delivery. And it works, despite the amateurish musicianship and sub-par production.

       Any man with White blood in his veins should feel something when hearing “Hail the New Dawn” or “After the Fire.” Sure, the vast majority of skinheads were in it for the fun, but some of those kids went from listening to Skullhead, drinking and fighting to become grown men taking it to the next level.

       I know this from experience–as a young punk (with all the typical lefty leanings) I was introduced to WP music via Skrewdriver, leading to my eventual racial awakening. How many others have had this same “gateway” experience? Anything that has the power to create such a paradigm shift has some value.

       With all due respect, Joe Owens, I hardly think anyone is waiting around for a singer or band to rally our people. Music has its place, but it needs to be kept in perspective.

       Looking forward to the next article.

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