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Like many in Hollywood, actor/director Rob Reiner has dedicated much of his Twitter feed to bashing President Trump. Lately, however, he’s been taking it further by condemning Trump’s supporters as being just as bad as the President. There really is no end to the scorn he heaps on Trump and the sixty-three million people who put him in office:
The President of the United States is a racist. He’s made it abundantly clear his re-election is based on white nationalism. If you support him, there can be no distinction between you being a racist and a racist enabler. They are the same.
Reiner goes further than this, accusing Trump supporters of being part of an “insidious cult” that condones “white supremacy & white nationalism.” He believes Trump supporters are “frightened to death of the browning of America.” He also believes that he can read Trump’s mind:
Donald Trump’s mind is infested. With racism, with misogyny, with lies, with bigotry, with hate.
This is pure ugliness, of course. Reiner is so arrogant he believes not only that he understands right and wrong, but that he is so free of sin himself that he can cast the most vicious aspersions on the people with whom he shares a country. It takes little effort to deconstruct Reiner’s position since he uses plain language within such a ding-dong simple Manichean context. In Reiner’s eyes, racism is bad and anti-racism is good, and if you don’t signal repeatedly that you are on one side, then you are on the other. There is no middle ground.
Does this make Rob Reiner the “meathead” he was portrayed to be in the 1970s TV sitcom All in the Family? I know many on the Right would like to call him that and mean it. But is Meathead right? Better to break this up into two questions: Is he right about Trump, and is he right about Trump’s supporters?
Well, two separate questions yield two separate answers. Of course, for Reiner, the answers are yes and yes. The standard GOP line, on the other hand, would be (or must be) no and no. Trump is not racist, they will say, and neither are ninety-nine percent of his supporters. There is no end to the evidence that supports this claim. Further, they will argue that there is nothing inherently racist about wanting strong borders, about having a sense of America First patriotism, or about white people criticizing non-whites when they deserve criticism. They will also argue that Trump has been unfairly maligned as a racist by the mainstream media. All of this is true, of course.
Here is a direct quote from Trump which will probably never find its way into one of Rob Reiner’s tweets:
Racism is evil, and those that cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal.
Reiner would respond to this by claiming that Donald Trump has awoken a sense of nationalism and tribalism among white Americans which he believes can be dangerous to non-whites with whom he clearly identifies and who are increasingly a source of power for the American Left. Trump has shown plenty of scorn for American Leftists, especially in the media. Much of Trump’s rhetoric is more or less in line with the views of people who are openly White Nationalist and race realist, or at the very least chauvinistic in favor of Western Civilization. Further, for folks like Reiner, Trump has not done nearly enough to disassociate himself from such people. For example, after Trump supporters chanted “send her back” at one of his rallies (referring to Muslim Congresswoman Ilhan Omar), Trump disavowed the chant and claimed that he resumed his speech quickly in order to get past it. So far, so good, right? Later, however, critics claimed he didn’t resume his speech quickly enough, which indicates that he really did support the chant. Trump lied, in other words.
Leftists like Reiner accuse Donald Trump of being a radical representative of the Right, and no amount of counter-signaling from Trump will change their minds. They will always claim that he’s engaging in a form of crypsis while pushing forth his pro-white agenda. After all, if Reiner believes he knows what infests Trump’s mind, then surely he can tell when he is lying.
So then who is right about President Trump? In this case, I would say neither. Often, the truth is a lot more mundane than people believe, and this should be our guide when interpreting the mind of The Donald. Trump is neither the insidious villain Reiner paints him to be, nor the American hero that many on the Right see him as. Is he a race realist? Based on quotes and accounts from throughout his various careers, probably. Does he personally hate people of other races? Based on these same quotes and accounts, probably not. On the other hand, Trump doesn’t pay homage to the Left and hate white people, either. It seems that Trump is unwilling to upset the racial applecart too much because that would be bad for business. On the other hand, he is shrewd enough to listen to his base, which believes that this applecart isn’t just holding apples anymore – and is rolling in the wrong direction.
But if Reiner is only half-right when it comes to Trump, what about Trump’s supporters? For the sake of argument, we can lump Trump’s primary ideological supporters into three camps: race realists, Western chauvinists, and anti-Leftists. These are the main pillars of what we call The Right these days. Of course, we must underscore that these are ideological supporters of Trump, not blue-collar workers in the rust belt who voted for Trump in hopes that they would keep their jobs (not that there’s anything wrong with that). We must also recognize that many of these supporters (Ann Coulter, most famously) have been bitterly critical of Trump. We should also point out that conservatives and libertarians do not get a camp of their own. In 2016, Trump forced conservatives and libertarians to choose between one of these three camps or voting for Hillary Clinton (which many of them, of course, did). The same goes for Christians since, depending on whom you talk to, arguments can be made that Trump and his policies are both pro-Christian (e.g., his pro-life stance) and anti-Christian (e.g., his anti-immigration stance).
So if Trump’s biggest brain boosters are race realists, Western chauvinists, or anti-Leftists, then how is Rob Reiner wrong?
Answer: he’s not.
All three of these camps recognize the importance of human biodiversity in one way or another. They also categorically denounce Leftist egalitarianism in all its forms. Supporting Trump not only represents the most forceful rebuke of the Left we’ve seen since perhaps President Eisenhower, it also gives breathing room for people – especially white people – who are willing to look critically upon other races. Reiner recognizes this and then reduces the Right to its most extreme form, since that’s obviously what scares him the most. He doesn’t trust the Right to remain moderate, and it appears he’d rather lop it off entirely than risk it morphing into an Americanized Nazi Party. He may not feel that every Trump voter is as bad as that, but he blames them for supporting someone he thinks is (or could be).
Reiner’s mistake, in my opinion, is ascribing evil motives to what is purely natural and healthy in a society. Every healthy society must be ethnocentric. Every healthy society requires a disciplined and productive populace, a unique identity, and strong borders. Further, every healthy society must understand and accept the biological truth about themselves and other societies.
Trump’s ideological supporters are everything Rob Reiner says they are . . . only good.
And if they seem not so good sometimes, then perhaps Reiner should look at his own aggressive anti-white racism and that of politicians in the Democratic Party (many of whom are not white) for the reason. If Reiner and his ilk had refrained from such extremist language in the first place, maybe most of white America wouldn’t be rushing to embrace a President Trump? Can anyone blame whites for wanting to get away from people like that, or for wanting to keep people who hate them out of their country? Further, can anyone blame whites for being as scared of Left-wing extremists like Rob Reiner as Reiner is of the worst of the Right? The Bolsheviks were Left-wingers as well, and they engaged in the same kind of vicious anti-Right slander that Reiner engages in. They also presided over a nation’s destruction and the murder of tens of millions of white people. Who’s to say that won’t happen in America while influential Lefties like Rob Reiner are flapping their gums? For whites in America, today’s political struggles will soon become struggles for their very survival. 2016 indicated that whites were just beginning to do the natural thing and fight.
What makes me sad is that while Reiner has elements of truth on his side, so do his mainstream opponents. And in the ensuing madness of our politics these days, these half-truths are wielded like weapons, and so often clash rather than coalesce into a unified whole. It reminds of the great line from Bob Dylan’s song “Idiot Wind”:
You’ll never know the hurt I suffered
Nor the pain that I rise above
I’ll never know the same about you
Your holiness and your kind of love
And it makes me feel so sorry.
Do we have to keep going after each other like this? This is the kind of strife that breaks nations apart. The end result can only be war. Is this what we want? Or is there a better way? Perhaps embracing our own ethnocentrism and respecting the ethnocentrism of others is that better way. We’ll file for that no-fault divorce that we all so richly deserve and take our own apple carts away with us in peace.
Then Rob Reiner can go back to making great movies like This is Spinal Tap, and we on the Right can go back to calling him “Meathead” and not really mean it.
Spencer J. Quinn is a frequent contributor to Counter-Currents and the author of the novel White Like You.
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This is great! It sparks a couple of points in me noggin:
1) “Meathead” was called that by Archie Bunker not because he was stupid but because he was a typical lower-class Jew grad student who parrots whatever Leftism comes down the pike. Norman Lear apparently thought this was very edgy criticism of his kind.
2) Rob Reiner himself is a classic specimen of the red-diaper-baby syndrome in Jews of his generation. Carl Reiner, the TV writer who wrote for Sid Caesar and created ‘The Dick van Dyke Show,’ acted as a front for blacklisted communists in Hollywood, and moved in those circles, though he was never quite blacklisted himself. It is normal for children to rebel against their parents’ values, at least for a little while; but among Jews the target of rebellion is switched from the parents themselves to the surrounding Christian community. Thus Jews can continue through life believing themselves to be brave rebels and iconoclasts, simply by always showing hatred for what they perceive as the non-Jewish consensus. There is no analogue for this among non-Jews.
Reiner is a Jew but his character, Michael Stivic, was Polish, or a Polack, as Archie would say.
@Jud Jackson: I don’t recall Michael Stivic in All in the Family doing anything particularly Polish. Did he ever eat pierogis, play Chopin études, show indications of Catholicism, visit cousin Stanislaw’s for Easter, or rage against the Communist tyranny in Warsaw? If so, I must have missed it, though I admit I was never a great fan of the show and didn’t see most episodes.
Surely, if Norman Lear had truly wanted Mike Stivic to be “read” as Polish-American, he would have found a Polish- or Baltic-appearing actor to play him.
Depiction of Jewish characters as “Polish” or “Italian” or whatever is a common camouflage technique among Jewish producers and scriptwriters. For example: in the original Broadway comedy “A Hole in the Head” by Arnold Schulman, lead character Max was clearly Jewish, as were most of the supporting characters. In the movie version, starring Frank Sinatra, he was given the name Tony Manetta, although he still unaccountably had a garmento elder brother played by Edward G. Robinson. Similiarly, in the film version of Neil Simon’s first Broadway hit, “Come Blow Your Horn,” the Jewishness of the central characters was effaced to permit Sinatra to play the lead (even though, again, the very Jewish Molly Picon and Lee J. Cobb were supposed to be his parents).
P. J. You are right. He never did any of those things. But I grew up in Chicago and had several Polish American friends and they didn’t do any of them either. You really couldn’t distinguish them from Irish Americans or Italian Americans. They were all third generation by the way and their grandparents came over in the great wave from 1890=1921. But Polish Americans do tend to be right wing and Michael Stivic certainly not that.
I am not sure if Lear was happy with the show or not. People identified with Archie and did not like the meathead. Perhaps the show contributed somewhat to the Nixon landslide in 1972.
If your Polish-American friends’ grandparents were immigrants, would that not make your friends second-generation? Never mind, I know many people have acceded to this current fad of adding an extra native-born generation to the total, though I’m not clear on the purpose of that. But I seriously doubt that second-generation Poles of this sort would not have visited relatives at Easter, go to Mass, play Chopin, rail against the Iron Curtain, or eat pierogis. I mean, in Chicago of all places. I am not Polish, and I have done all these things. How well did you know them, actually?
Put some Section 8 housing and homeless shelters in Malibu and listen to Reiner squeal.
curri, I agree with you 100%. I’ve been saying the same thing.
Low-income housing can be placed in a certain area, which is just north of the celebrities’ estates, on Pacific Coast Highway. These low-income housing units can have mainly or only nonwhites. I wonder if the affluent there would go for this? I bet you they would use the “environment” as an excuse for not having the Section 8 housing built there.
What we should do is make comments on Malibu news and information websites regarding how Malibu is too white and needs diversity. We can give the idea of building low-income housing there for the poor and how they need diversity in race and income. I wonder if these types of comments would be allowed.
The real telling issue is that Reiner and his (((like))) are terrified and ANGRY that America or anywhere else might NOT go from White to non-White.
THAT is the motive, that is the issue.
Now why is THAT your hateful motive Rob????
“…Reiner’s mistake, in my opinion, is ascribing evil motives to what is purely natural and healthy in a society…”
And that is what his tribe has been against throughout history. This is what E. Michael Jones calls their “anti-Logos” attitude. Logos, divine order in nature and human society, is seen as a threat by these eternal rebels. They want revolution, chaos and degeneracy. Only in such an environment they feel “safe” as destructive parasites.
I guess I meant 3rd generation Americans. Grandparents first, parents second, and my friends third.
You are right. I overlooked the Catholic part which is clearly very important to the Poles. But by the time my friends and I got to be 18 we all pretty much lost our faith. Easter was never big, however, even when we were little kids and still going to Catholic School. Christmas was always big, however. But it was big in the Bunker household as well although Archie was some kind of Protestant. But yes, my friends were more Catholic than the meathead who appears not to be Catholic at all. But for my friends the Beatles were a million times more important than Chopin. No pierogis either.
I knew them pretty well but have since lost touch with them.
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