Counter-Currents
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The Counter-Currents team is now deep in the process of starting up a new project, the Counter-Currents Radio Network. The idea was first conceived in early August, when it began to look like the Voice of Reason Network was off the air.
Over the past several years, the Voice of Reason had grown to become one of White Nationalism’s biggest and best outreach tools. It gave intellectuals and activists like Tom Sunić, Paul Fromm, Matt Parrott, and others a way to get past Jewish media filters and have their voices heard.
Because VoR was in the outreach business, however, not all of its hosts or guests identified themselves as White Nationalists or focused their shows on White Nationalist issues. These shows included Mark Weber’s “The Mark Weber Report,” M. Raphael Johnson’s “The Orthodox Nationalist,” Keith Preston’s “Attack the System,” and Robert Stark’s “The Stark Truth.”
All of these hosts were, however, comfortable in a broader “Alternative Right” milieu. Their work did not undermine the network’s core ideological commitments, and they promoted its agenda of reaching out to new and different audiences beyond the movement echo chamber.
Unfortunately, VoR is no more. The website stopped being updated after July 16th, nobody has heard from VoR producer Mike Conner since the beginning of August, and the site went offline in late August. We did everything possible to contact Mike Conner and rescue VoR, including appealing to activists who live near him to personally check on his welfare and offer him help getting back online, getting the shows caught up, and streamlining operations to make it easier in the future. Unfortunately, we were unsuccessful.
But what VoR was doing was too important to let it stop. There was simply too much talent there, and the audience was too large. So we we began work on a new network.
When the VoR website went offline, we spearheaded the project of reconstructing its archives, so that the work of its various hosts was not lost.
After a time, Dietrich Mullis, one of the founders of VoR logged on, paid the server bills, and brought the site back online. By the time VoR reappeared, however, work on the Counter-Currents Radio Network was well underway. Furthermore, Dietrich has announced that he will change the name of VoR to Whitelandia and do twice monthly podcasts. He had no plans to resume the production of old VoR shows, but he will maintain the archives. We wish him the best, and we are proceeding ahead with our own plans.
This is what we are doing:
1. Matt Parrott, Michael Polignano, and I will are creating a new podcasting network, the Counter-Currents Radio Network.
2. Matt Parrott will be the Program Director of the new network. He is the primary party responsible for creating and maintaining the site and managing programming, advertising, and fundraising. We think Matt is the ideal person for this, because he has the requisite technical skills, vision, podcasting experience, commitment, and time. He has recently relocated and resettled in Michigan, and he is looking for work. We want to give him a job with the movement before the “system” snaps him up.
3. As Editor-in-Chief, I have determined the basic parameters of the content. I have final say on what shows get added. I also have “gong” privileges to get rid of shows that are doing badly. Aside from that, I am leaving Matt in charge of programming.
4. As Managing Editor and Websmaster, Michael Polignano is also putting in a great deal of work to get the new network started, and ultimately he controls the keys.
5. CC Radio will be like VOR in a number of ways:
First, since CC Radio is an “outreach” project, the contents will be a bit broader in ideology and tone than what appears on the front page of CC/North American New Right.
Second, our hosts may not think of themselves as White Nationalists or New Rightists, but as long as they do their part to promote an exciting intellectual atmosphere in which White Nationalism and the New Right are part of the conversation, that is good enough for us.
Third, CC Radio will seek to engage the mainstream, but we will not “mainstream” ourselves through self-censorship, self-cooption, watering down, and other forms of wetness. We are trying to move the mainstream in our direction.
Fourth, CC Radio will encourage the discussion of politically incorrect topics, but since we seek to raise the status of such discourse, we will not host shows that are vulgar and stupid, or use racial and ethnic slurs and smears.
Fifth, show hosts need not promote the CC line on race and the Jewish question, but we will not give platforms to hosts who in any way promote anti-white racism or Jewish supremacism. That’s what the whole mainstream media is for. Nor will we give shows to non-white or Jewish hosts. In the end, if we are to save our race, we will do it “ourselves alone.”
Sixth, hosts are welcome to have guests who disagree with our agenda, even non-white and Jewish guests, within reason.
6. Counter-Currents Radio will differ from VoR in several ways:
First, hosts will have greater autonomy and responsibility for recording, editing, annotating, and uploading their shows. We think that Mike Conner may have burned out because he simply took on too much work. Thus, if someone wishes to host a show at CC Radio, we will teach them how to do as much as possible himself. We will even assist hosts in archiving their shows on their own sites, so nothing is lost if the network goes down.
Second, all pre-recorded shows will go online as podcasts immediately. They will not be “broadcast” at a particular time and then appear as podcasts sometime in the future. We may have “live” shows as well, but with prerecorded shows, we will not impose an artificial “scarcity” upon them that is a relic of old school broadcasting. Once a podcast goes online, we will “push it out” to subscribers through mobile apps, iTunes, and RSS feeds, so people will hear about new shows from their favorite hosts immediately and be able to listen to it at their leisure.
Third, if we do not hold hosts to a weekly “broadcast time” there is no need to hold them to a weekly production schedule either. Of course, it would be IDEAL if every host did something once a week like clockwork, but if some hosts do three shows a week and others only one a month, that is fine. Since most listeners will subscribe to shows on iTunes or through RSS feeds or mobile apps, rather than “tune in” at a particular time, they will not be disappointed by a “no show” nor will they feel that they are getting too much of another host. We want to create a production and delivery framework and then get out of the way, enabling our hosts to make their voices heard.
Fourth, we want Matt to make a living as much as possible doing CC Radio, and we want the institution to be financially self-sustaining, even bringing money into our movement rather than simply draining money out of it. So the time Matt saves by enabling hosts to do more of “it” themselves will be devoted to “monetizing” the network: seeking out advertising, broadening the audience, and cultivating donors. We see no reason why the same people who pay to advertise on the Republic or Oracle Networks cannot be persuaded to advertise with CC Radio, provided we offer high-quality content that attracts enough listeners.
As more people are turning away from traditional television and other mainstream media for news and entertainment, advertisers are increasingly investing money in podcast advertising. Of course, sharing our message with a large and growing audience is something we need to invest our time and money in anyway, but I’ve seen some of the numbers, and I genuinely believe the support we receive right now is an investment in a project which will become at least partially (and perhaps entirely) self-supporting once it gets off the ground.
Fifth, CC Radio will be part of an integrated network to promote WN and New Right books and ideas. We want to make it possible for every new book published by CC, Arktos, Wermod and Wermod, Washington Summit Publishers, etc. to be promoted with reviews, author interviews, and discussions.
7. CC Radio will start with the following shows:
- Tom Sunić, “The Sunić Journal”
- Robert Stark, “The Stark Truth”
- Paul Fromm, “The Fighting Side of Me”
- Keith Preston, “Attack the System”
- Richard Spencer, “Vanguard”
- Mike Polignano and Greg Johnson, “New Right Radio”
- Matt Parrott, “The Matt Parrott Report”
- “Books Against Time”: a book and author show co-hosted by Greg Johnson and John Morgan of Arktos Media
8. We would very much like to host Mark Weber’s and M. Raphael Johnson’s shows as well, and we will continue to pay them court. A number of other exciting shows are also in development. We would like to develop “magazine” shows (with a mix of interviews and commentary) around the following sorts of themes:
- political commentary
- popular culture
- student activism
- the “manosphere”
- women in WN
- neo-paganism
- various music related shows
Please contact me at [email protected] if you wish to host such a program or recommend someone who might.
To get CC Radio off the ground, we have decided to extend our Summer Fundraiser to October 31st. Since we did the same thing last year, we might as well make it a tradition. We are also raising our fundraising goal from $25,000 to $30,000. Think of it as our Counter-Currents Capital Campaign.
Do I think it is too ambitious a goal? Not at all. There’s plenty of money in the White Nationalist sphere. Quite a lot of it was spent on helping Ron Paul and the Tea Party promote their race-neutral classical liberal messages. Now it is time to spend it on White Nationalists who are promoting our own message.
Archimedes once said, “Give me a lever and a place to stand, and I can move the world.” We need to give our hosts a new place to stand. Please help out today.
For more details on how to give, and some special incentives, click here for our latest fundraiser update.
Thank you, loyal readers and future loyal listeners.
Greg Johnson
Editor
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29 comments
Counter currents already had the best readings and now it will have the best audios. Time for counter intel psy op!
Since digital communications and asymmetric distribution within the web has moved from THE FORUMS to the BLOG hubs like this, C-C is becoming the swivel our peoples procession.
I am very excited for this. This is a major move forward, and I wish I could be more a part of it.
Have you reached out to Duke? He’s on Rense now, and I imagine he might be willing to have his shows cross-posted at CC radio?
Radio Free Northwest, done by a Mr. Harold Covington, would certainly be quite appropriate for your network. There are years worth of archives of RFN, as well.
Why not the best?
Covington’s podcasts are valuable work, but he is aiming at a different kind of audience in terms of language.
I very much hope that Dr. M. Raphael Johnson joins CC radio.
My favorite show at Voice of Reason was The European American Hour with Stan Hess. It was fascinating to hear pro-European American speech from a former marxist. Stan could speak in the style of a leftist- that by itself was interesting to hear. Stan knows the vocabulary of the left. Stan spoke from a working man’s perspective. Hopefully Stan pops up somewhere again.
I have not yet talked to Stan about the new project.
Why not try to find Peter Schaenk, who actually has the depth of knowledge and broadcasting skill, and actually formed the foundation of VoR, including the name and the motto?
Why not the best?
Frank DaSilva might be a very appropriate commentator.
Interesting seeing Richard Spencer on the roster.
Is he seriously re-jiggering anything about the way he produces his show, or is it just going to be a cross post?
I don’t know all the details of his plans, just that he is on board.
Make it worth the trouble by broadcasting the S. Devi tapes.
What about Jamie Kelso? I would like to hear him too.
Extremely cool. Can’t wait!
Mark Weber and M. Raphael Johnson would be valuable additions. David Duke would be beyond valuable. I automatically think he wouldn’t involve himself, and so I’m interested to know what sort of considerations would make a person decline the offer, if it was made. Or what kind of considerations would cause the offer not to be made.
“Women in WN” is a separating device. Men, women and children are in this together, united.
“The manosphere” should be avoided, or very carefully monitored, because of the opening that it gives to those who use benign-sounding concepts like “male-bonding” and “Männerbund” to inject ideas and proposals that are, in fact, subversive to White interests.
In the Fetch interview thread, I posted a VoR link to Robert Stark’s interview of James J. O’Meara and requested the interview be posted at Counter-Currents. I’ve discovered that it was already posted here on May 31, but I hadn’t listened to it. Nor had I read the comments, to which, aside from Greg, only one C-C reader contributed. Had I listened and read the comments at that time, I would certainly have offered my own.
I only listened to it a few days ago because of the spin that James J. O’Meara put on his Ralph Cram article. The Stark interview comments are now closed, and for me to add my comments here would be imposing on a thread with a different purpose, namely to introduce a new initiative. I will add a Comment to the Cram article so that I can give my thoughts regarding the potential problem that the inclusion of “the manosphere” presents.
1. Duke has his own platform plus Rense. There is nothing that we could offer him that he does not already have more of, and more control over.
2. I like the idea of a Women’s Auxiliary show. I don’t think that we should soften our message to reach out to women, and I don’t think that women are the key to success. But they are a sign of success. They will come when men make headway, and we will make headway by not worrying too much about what women think. But for the female vanguardists, the women who are on the right side of the female bell-curve for independence of mind, it would be nice to create a space and a platform for them, if they want it.
3. The manosphere is a huge phenomenon, but as far as I know, there are no podcasts. That strikes me as amazing. A good podcaster who can engage that sphere with a mix of entertainment, commentary, and interviews has an enormous potential audience. Manifestly, that’s the natural vector along which the manopshere can grow enormously. Manifest destiny. WN is largely a male thing, and it will be for the foreseeable future, and there are significant overlaps between the manosphere and WN already. So it is a discursive space that works to legitimize us and gives us access to many potential recruits.
4. Post your notes on O’Meara here or on the Cram article.
What’s F. Roger Devlin up to? If he has the interest, he might be the man for the job re: engaging mano-sphere issues. I can’t think of a more lethal critic of the anti-male regime.
Yes, he is a brilliant writer and a deep thinker. He would be a great interviewee. But I am looking for more of a showman.
Lew responds, “What’s F. Roger Devlin up to? If he has the interest, he might be the man for the job re: engaging mano-sphere issues. I can’t think of a more lethal critic of the anti-male regime.”
This is telling (as well as disappointing), because it welcomes a male vs. female protocol. And yes, F. Roger Devlin is a lethal critic — not of the “anti-male regime” but of the female sex.
MOB: I have a daughter. I don’t want to see copious amounts of anti-woman bile pulled into CCs orbit via unqualified appeals to the mano-sphere either. I trust Greg’s judgment to keep out that element. We disagree on Devlin. I see him as a critic of feminism not women in general.
Can I ask what is the rationale for giving time to people who don’t fully endorse CCs position on race and Jews? I think it all sounds great, except that one part.
I am not going to give a space to people who oppose or undermine our overall agenda. But we determine who does and does not do that. Somebody might not agree with us, or want to agree with us publicly, or think that he really helps us. But we decide that, not the host.
We have a dual agenda:
1. Develop our worldview
2. Propagate our worldview
Whenever you propagate a worldview, you are going to run into people who don’t agree with you. That’s the whole point, though, because otherwise you are just whites talking to yourselves. Some of these people are hostile, some lukewarm, some neutral, some quiet sympathizers.
But if you are going to propagate ideas, you need to bridge the gap between where you are and where the uninitiated are. People like Matt Johnson, Mark Weber, and Robert Stark bridged that gap for VoR.
And people like Weber and Matt Johnson got something from their association with VoR: they had a platform and they got new listeners who might have come to hear Sunic or Fromm and ended up trying something new that otherwise they would not have tried. That was the case with me and “The Orthodox Nationalist,” for instance. Stark in particular has done amazing work finding people who are really good and whose work had been completely unknown to me.
Also, although it is of paramount importance for there to be explicit White Nationalists, it is almost as important when people who do not explicitly identify as WNs, or who identify as non-WNs, indicate that they are willing to associate with us, talk to us, even sympathize with us. This performs a legitimating and humanizing function. The regime wants to silence us by dehumanizing us, by presenting us as the kind of people that good people shun and look down upon. Anyone who breaks that conditioning helps us tremendously.
Two cases in point.
First, in Craig Bodeker’s A Conversation about Race, an older liberal woman named Mary Ann is asked about White Nationalism. She says that she does not appreciate White Nationalism, but then she says something amazing: that she can sympathize with our sense of loss. That was a powerful moment, because any liberal seeing that can relate to Mary Ann, and if she can relate to us, then maybe they can relate to us a bit more than before. So suddenly were are not just a bunch of naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews.
Second, Jack Donovan wrote an article on why he appreciates his WN readers even though he does not identify as a WN. Again, this is very important, because the standard operating procedure for those raised in the pussy farms of movement conservatism is to shit on and denounce anyone further Right than oneself. But if Jack Donovan is willing to talk to us and read us, then some of his readers may as well, and in the end, some of those readers might get on board.
That is how marginal ideas penetrate the mainstream, without being “mainstreamed” out of existence by the “censor yourself, co-opt yourself, support the system, and then we win” crowd who are the bane of our movement.
“We would very much like to host Mark Weber’s…”
Oh good! Of all the people I listen to, Mark Weber is the one I enjoy the very best!
Thanks a lot for taking this on!
I see a growing list of comments anticipating a resuscitation and continuation of many fine broadcasters who once “lived” at Voice of Reason radio. Fantastic!
I see comments offering new ideas for hosts and podcasts. Great!
But do I see an outpouring of commitment to provide FINANCIAL SUPPORT to make this all happen?
One of the main reasons VOR “went down” was lack of adequate financial resources.
Can I assume that EVERYONE who has commented on this thread has already opened a recurring PayPal contribution of at least $20.00 per month?
Suggestions and opinions are valuable to the extent they are backed up with hard cash needed to keep this effort going. Without that, great ideas are just fluffy pats on one’s own back, less valuable than a “like” on Facebook.
Break out your wallets ladies and gentlemen.
Gregor has made an excellent point.
Money does not talk; it speaks with authority.
Kevin Alfred Strom would be an excellent host. Your network would remove a substantial technical burden for him, and we would hear more of the first class thinking (and writing!) that offered us so many excellent ADV’s.
Incidentally, did he ever get back to you about doing a review of Jack’s War for CC?
Greg Johnson, what about Jamie Kelso? I would like to hear him too.
We have not discussed the new network with him yet.
I’m very happy to read that you’re building a platform for most of those great shows from VoR to air again. It would truly be fantastic if you could get Mark Weber to join your project. He’s one of the most well-spoken people in the entire revisionist camp. I also find it very interesting to see that Richard Spencer is joining you. He’s great for attracting ‘normal’ people to the kind of things you promote.
This is really great news! I’ve been suffering withdrawal symptoms since VoR went down. I would like to thank Mike Connor for all that he did, and all else involved with VoR.
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