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Here’s the Thing: Selected Interviews, vol. 2

Greg Johnson
Here’s the Thing: Selected Interviews, vol. 2
San Francisco: Counter-Currents, 2020
230 pages

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About Here’s the Thing

In his interviews, Greg Johnson is known for expressing radical and sometimes shocking ideas in a calm, rational, unapologetic manner. Here’s the Thing collects ten of his best interviews from 2014 to 2018.

The interviews with Darryl Cooper, Tara McCarthy, and Lana Lokteff offer a basic introduction to White Nationalism and the New Right. The first of two conversations with Hugh MacDonald focuses on the treacherous charge of “racism” and different ways to handle it. The conversation with Millennial Woes answers the centrist, civic nationalist objections of video commentator Sargon of Akkad. The discussion with J.M. answers common questions and objections from “normies.”

The volume then takes a more philosophical turn. A second conversation with Hugh MacDonald offers a nuanced defense of some forms of vanity, pretentiousness, and snobbery. Then Johnson discusses the foundations of White Nationalism and the New Right with an anonymous philosophy professor.

The book ends with two brief interviews with mainstream journalists Maureen O’Connor and Liz Bruenig that were never published.

Topics include White Nationalism, the New Right, multiculturalism, imperialism, ethnonationalism, the Jewish question, the concept of race, populism, elitism, economic policy, sexual politics, modernity, metapolitics, and hegemony, as well as such thinkers as Plato, Aristotle, Vico, Nietzsche, Spengler, Schmitt, and Heidegger.

Here’s the Thing offers an accessible introduction to the basics of White Nationalism and the New Right — and how they touch on a wide variety of philosophical, political, and cultural issues — in a relaxed and conversational style.



1. Decline of the West: Interview with Darryl Cooper

2. White Identity Politics: Interview with Tara McCarthy

3. From Metapolitics to Hegemony: Interview with Lana Lokteff

4. Destigmatizing Racism: A Conversation with Hugh MacDonald

5. Response to Sargon of Akkad: Interview with Millennial Woes

6. Answering Normie Questions: Interview with J.M.

7. Vanity, Pretentiousness, & Snobbery: A Conversation with Hugh MacDonald

8. Conversation with a Philosopher

9. Straight but Not Narrow Nationalism: Interview with Maureen O’Connor

10. What’s Wrong With Modernity?: Interview with Liz Bruening


About the Contributors

About the Author

Greg Johnson, Ph.D., is the author of fifteen books, including Confessions of a Reluctant Hater; New Right vs. Old Right; Truth, Justice, & a Nice White Country; In Defense of Prejudice; The White Nationalist Manifesto; Toward a New Nationalism; From Plato to Postmodernism; It’s Okay to Be White; and Graduate School with Heidegger. 


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  1. Dr ExCathedra
    Posted October 15, 2020 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    I hope it’s ok to link here to a fine 20 minute video by Way Of The World, showing the futility of trying to “solve” the Black/White race conflict and the necessity of racial separation as our only hope for a future:

    WOTW has 111k subscribers. Might Greg be interested in having him on for an interview?

    • Tommi
      Posted December 16, 2020 at 12:59 am | Permalink

      WotW would be a great guest! Last year I suggested that he should be invited to Millenniyule and Woes replied that WotW had been invited several times but declined because he does not like doing livestreaming. Maybe he would do a prerecorded/edited interview?

  2. Dr. Krieger
    Posted October 21, 2020 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    You published a book of interviews called “Here’s the Thing” and it doesn’t contain an interview with Mike Enoch?
    Bro, have you ever even heard “Carol of the Things”?

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