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It is said that Alexander the Great wept for there were no worlds left to conquer.
I feel you, Alex. Sometimes it feels like there are no normies left to redpill and all the debates have been won. On X, the epicenter of right-wing internet culture, various factions and denominations of, essentially, White Nationalists are assuming a hegemonic influence. Con Inc. holdouts like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, and James Lindsay are objects of ridicule, and anyone caught defending Zionism is assumed to be on someone’s payroll. Pro-whites have no serious intellectual rivals remaining other than controlled opposition versions of ourselves (i.e. the BAP sphere/Thiel Network).
Right-wing Jews like Morgan Ariel have had to turn converso, pretending to be Christian in order to stay marketable in the current era and I must say, it is remarkable how many Jews will shamelessly go full race traitor and make antisemitic content for money and attention (again, Morgan Ariel is the ultimate example).
The Trump administration seems ready to take the threat of Antifa seriously. Granted, some people believe the establishment might have cynical reasons for doing so, either as a pretext to crush the more anti-Zionist segments of the left, or to distract the public from Israel or whatever. In my opinion, it is slightly suspicious that a moral panic over Antifa would emerge now when Antifa has been a shadow of their former selves for years. Whether or not Trump means his threats, the Left seems to be taking them seriously.
Then today I read that the ADL announced that they would be retiring their controversial “Glossary of Extremism.” The Glossary of Extremism had long been the subject of mockery for listing things like “Christ is King” and the “OK” hand sign as hate symbols. Several people have claimed that ADL’s glossary entry on them was defamatory.
My, how the tables have turned. I remember not long ago when White Nationalists were having to communicate their ideas in codes and having to talk about “you-know-whos” in order to beat the ADL-enforced censorship rules. A few years later, the positions have been reversed. Now, the ADL feels compelled to self-censor to avoid a public backlash.
Alexander wept, indeed.
To be clear, this is the world I fought for, a world where you could be a racist and an antisemite and still be considered a normie. Well, now I am living in that world. It feels good, but golly, what’s a keyboard warrior to do with no more meme wars left to fight? Just follow the trail of corpses: National Review, AnCaps, the Alt Lite, the YouTube Skeptics, the Dirtbag Left, the Intellectual Dark Web, QAnon, until you finally arrive at us. We Meme War veterans will enjoy the hard-won and well-deserved spoils of war, but our shitposting descendants who never knew such hardship and never needed a disciplined keyboard warrior culture will become increasingly decadent with each subsequent generation.
That’s not to say that the white race has been saved. What I am saying is that the next generation of White Nationalist heroes will be networkers and fundraisers, glad handers, and charming midwits. Not the kind of people I would choose to have a beer with, but we’re gonna need them in order to climb out of the Internet.
That brings us to the name of our movement: the Dissident Right. Is it time for a rebrand? Are we now like the Holy Roman Empire when the name is outdated? How “dissident” are our views in the current paradigm?
For newer people, here’s some scene lore on the history of the name of the movement.
When the right-wing internet scene first started heating up, it was called “the Dark Enlightenment.” This was circa 2012 and it was an umbrella term that encompassed White Nationalists along with a slew of other non-mainstream right-wing ideologies (NRx, monarchist, libertarians, etc). The biggest names of the scene were Mencius Moldbug, Nick Land, and John Derbyshire who was still at National Review at the time. This was the first time “the scene” got any significant media exposure.
However, “Dark Enlightenment” was too closely associated with Moldbug’s brand and two competing terms emerged for the white nationalist faction: Alt Right (invented by Paul Gottfried and popularized by Richard Spencer) and Dissident Right which was championed by John Derbyshire. Alt Right won out probably because it was catchier.
It was a little too catchy because then normies started like Steve Crowder started latching on to the term and diluting it’s meaning. This led to the Branding Wars, which was a debate over how big the tent should be. This ended with Hailgate, after which the term “Alt Right” became toxic and more mainstream figures distanced themselves from the scene. Then Charlottesville happened and “Alt Right” became completely radioactive. Dissident Right started making a huge comeback.
Now here we are in 2025 and our ideas are not really “dissident” anymore. Here are my suggestions for new movement name.
Woke Right: This is what old Con Inc. types are calling us. These people never knew what “woke” meant until the Dissident Right explained it to them but they now try to pin it on us to try to make some kind of moral equivalent (“right-wing SJWs”!) and claim that they are the real right-wingers. I think “woke right” is a way for establishment Republicans to be able to talk about the racism problem in their party in a polite way without calling it a racism problem which would draw a lot of attention.
White nationalists could just “own the insult” with “woke right.” It’s already out there. I’ve even seen some people on the left picking up the term so it is gaining currency. The term was invented as a euphemism: it was designed to be inoffensive.
Alt Right: We could rehabilitate “Alt Right.” I always liked the term because it was catchy and looked cool on the page. You could imagine Alt Right on a t-shirt.
I was one of the last holdouts still using it. My editors had to make me stop. The reasons were understandable: the term had become too closely associated with Richard Spencer’s buffoonery. But that was years ago, and Spencer has successfully rebranded to the point where “White Nationalist” is no longer the first word that comes to mind when you think of him. The counter-argument is that it runs into the same problem as “Dissident Right”: is it really that “alternative” anymore? Not anymore than “alternative music.” I just think for marketing purposes, Alt Right was ideal.
White Nationalist: If woke is dead and the Overton Window has been thrown so open as to make our most taboo ideas “safe edgy,” why not drop the euphemisms and call ourselves what we are?
The downside of this is the term may still have a lot of historical baggage and might be somewhat self-segregating.
MAGA: Some might say our counter-culture days are over and we should just become Republicans. We should just immerse ourselves into the Trump movement and start calling ourselves MAGA so as to better control it from the inside. This appears to be the strategy much of the Thiel-funded network is leaning. The downside is such cynicism is always transparent and can come off as inauthentic. A lot of us oldheads are creatures of counter-culture and not cut out for infiltration. God bless you if you can do it though.
Anti-Zionist Right: Anti-Zionism has become a popular brand with cross-party appeal. Anti-Zionism has a lot of intellectual credibility. Many big-brained professors are anti-Zionists. Being an anti-Zionist is a litmus test for being in the Dissident Right already. We could brand ourselves as “the Anti-Zionist Right.” It’s a polite term and it leaves the possibility of a larger tent than just being hardline White Nationalists.
The counter-argument is that the term does not do enough to exclude anti-Zionist Jews and if it does not, the scene would leave itself open to Jewish subversion if the group is not explicitly racial.
Pro-white: Like “White Nationalist” but more polite and without the baggage. Nothing offensive about the term in itself, and to oppose someone being “pro-white” implies that you are anti-white. However, like “Anti-Zionist,” not making the term explicitly anti-Jewish leaves the door open for Jewish subversion and then you have Ben Shapiro claiming that bombing Hamas is the pro-white thing to do.
Other: In the comments, add your own suggestions.
At any rate, scanning the political landscape in general and the right-wing internet ecosphere in particular, “Dissident Right” is an anachronism. The term was a product of its time and does not reflect current reality. I never liked it to begin with. The term was cumbersome and not at all catchy.
What’s in a name? Plenty.
What we call ourselves has some influence on where we will go in the future.
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“Identitarian” has always sat well with me.
It’s more in line with continental European tradition though. To iffy for the francophobic Anglo-Saxon ears.
I still think we should call ourselves the “Deep Centre.” After all, our ideas are just those that the greatest men of all time have defended.
Dissident smacks of Soviet era downfall. Where are the dissidents in the new regime?
“So-Far, Right” is my preference, but is unwieldy.
Some can deny all they want but White Power is still the best: passionate, fury, cool, anti-jewish, anti-multikulti, strong, and accurate. ProWhites in power and keep power maxing up till we crash Tetris. White Nationalist is just meh cause is amerika really a nation in the proper sense of the term? We are essentially stateless and must rebuild from the bolts, carrying our legacies onward in a bindle if need be. Fascist can be embraced too cause it’s cool, chicks dig it, and of all the isms is most geared toward the artists. The terms in the article will not stick, lack attraction, and we should be long over any negative associations with Nazism or Mussolini Italy. For the girls it should definitely be White Girl Power. Fascistas, not baristas.
Just Europeans
Yeah, but what kind of Europeans?
Do you need to be explained what an european is? If there sometime exist a party named EfE, Europeans for Europe, I assure you every non european will autoexclude itself, even those mongoloid ashkenazis, they know very well what an european is.
“Do you need to be explained what an european is?”
“European” doesn’t mean “White people,” because it excludes all the British nations and the Americans, the Canadians, the New Zealanders, and all sorts of White people around the world who are not Europeans.
There is also a (currently quiet) political and racial conflict between immigrant Europeans (including many of their descendants) and and the English-speaking founding / old settler peoples, with the Europeans carrying on their ethnic conflicts that are not wanted (Serbs against Croats and so on) and the Europeans also taking the side of “multiculturalism” and non-White mass immigration to break the political power of the founding Anglo-Saxons and their loyal Celtic brothers, including and not limited to the Scots. The multicultural organized Europeans were players in the destruction of the White Australia Policy and in the construction of racially devastating multicultural (meaning multi-racial) mass immigration policies that turned Australia from a Whitopia into the “torn nation” Samuel Huntington had a chapter on in The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order.
In Eastern Europe the label European is even more harmful and confusing, with the rulers of Europe constructing a politics of anti-Russian hatred with “us” Europeans uniting against “them” the Russians, and the Ukrainians, formerly not taken seriously as fellow Europeans, being made sort of virtual Europeans for the purpose of bleeding Russia. I doubt that manipulative new understanding of Ukrainians as “Europeans” will hold up well when it comes time to pay the bills for this war. Already I see the rulers of Europe being far more generous to their European brother Ukrainians in theory than they are in fact.
I like White. White is the right word for our shared identity. White is bluntly racial, which is good. We Whites are a race with a shared fate, all around the world, and that is what we should be acting on for the common good.
We should be pitting pro-Whites against antiwhites and not Europeans against non-Europeans.
“White Right”…catchy as all hell. Excludes jews ny definition. Establishes the playing field as overtly racial and identitarian.
As leavening is taboo with them, how about the multivalent…
Proven Right?
Brilliant! Might go over some people’s heads, though.
Which means they’re not bready.
I always liked altright too. It was sort of our answer to neoconservative, in that at root it was about white identity, but there were other forces camouflaging it to lend a broader appeal, the same way neoconservatism is American Jewish ethnonationalism, but there are other riders such as anti aa and formerly anti communism, which broader conservatives might support it for. An effective political label has to have a stalking horse quality to disguise its selfish character, as any politics will necessarily be in a multiethnic society. Ron Paul’s brand of libertarianism was really a camouflage for white identity and America first foreign policy in the same manner. I think what really killed the term Altright was Hillary Clinton’s speech where she warned of the growing threat of the “altright,” connecting it specifically with racism. Also, Altright reminds one of alternative music, giving pleasant associations with 90s pop culture. Dissident Right has sort of the same quality of obscuration, but right—it’s clunky and stodgy sounding. I would throw out there AltMAGA, as a tongue in cheek suggestion.
Edit: I’m a pro white white nationalist period, but there might need to be compromise strategies in practical politics is what I mean. I take pro white as given.
White advocates is appealing. We work on behalf of our people.
Speaking of Jewish race traitors I recently found out that Brother Nathanial is a Jew. I thought his rantings were hilarious. Does anyone know if he’s on the ADL’s hit list?
Brother Nathaniel had an interview with Alex Jones about a year or so ago. It was taken down by InfoWars but still online. Bother Nathaniel’s calm retort to Alex Jones caused AJ to panick and not know what to do.
In the interview, discussion oxxurred about Nathaniel’s Jewishness and his interest in Christianity, partly spurred by older Jews’ hostility and dismissal of it. This got a bit much for Jones. Alex Jones blustered about the terrible Hilter, trying to resurrect that spectacle and shut down the conversation after the Jewish topic became too hot.
Nathaniel calmly and nonchalantly stated that Hitler was very well liked by children as is Nathaniel himself.
The video was removed from InfoWars library but Andrew Anglin provided links about a year ago. Very entertaining indeed.
White advocate sounds like we’re missionary nuns bringing medicine to beaner death squads who will kill us. White Power is more than sufficient and we’re not escaping its already popular use online. And a much needed fuck you of fury to the enemy. Others sound very weak and doormatish
Pro-white sounds the best to me; it captures the most important part of what we’re all about and at least potentially is less polarizing in a negative way.
A people who cannot name what they are will be disadvantaged. Look at all the different names suggested for pro-Whites here and in comments.
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Beau Albrecht: October 6, 2025 Pro-white [sic] sounds the best to me; it captures the most important part of what we’re all about..
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Pro-White is always good. Though I capitalize White when written. It leaves little doubt as to what the loyalist means.
Dissident is a good word, as in dissenter: a person who believes, teaches, or advocates something opposed to accepted belief. It’s good until coupled with the word Right which is terribly obsolete.
Alt-Right is bullshit As is Old Right, New Right, Anti-Zionist Right, MAGA, even White Nationalist, which is a very big tent. The absolute worst, most ignorant idea I see here is the nigger term “woke” coupled with Right. When will racially loyal men and women “retire” that Ebonic word?
Identitarian tells nothing. Who’s that, someone who checks IDs?
White Racial Loyalist is good, or simply WRL. Racial nationalist is accepted by National Socialists so as not to make a normie pee himself when NS is uttered.
My preference when not simply saying pro-White is White separatist/preservationist, that leaves little doubt where I stand.
We can all define ourselves as race-thinkers, if that’s what we are.
Re: “…Old Right, New Right, Anti-Zionist Right, MAGA…”
I’ve even heard “Alt-light” not quite at “Alt-Right”!
Personally, I’m a fan of “White Nationalist” for the fact that it is clear-cut. I’d like a super majority of Whites in my nation– even if that “nation” ends up being smaller than 1 single U.S. State.
Kim: October 7, 2025 Personally, I’m a fan of “White Nationalist” for the fact that it is clear-cut.
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Like I said, Kim, White Nationalism is a very big tent. Just ask Wimpy (Hamburger Today). When he and I were “debating” his White Nationalism vs. my vanguard approach, a couple of months ago he kept insisting that WN includes everyone who simply cares for White people. Is Wimpy correct?
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I’d like a super majority of Whites in my nation– even if that “nation” ends up being smaller than 1 single U.S. State.
Be careful with the words you choose, Kim. That sounds like a plan for defeated losers to me.
Which supermajority of Whites do you prefer in your country or huddled in your single state? WikiJews define several:
Common thresholds of supermajority
A majority vote, or more than half the votes cast, is a common voting basis. Instead of the basis of a majority, a supermajority can be specified using any fraction or percentage which is greater than one-half.[7][8] Common supermajorities include three-fifths (60%), two-thirds (66.666…%), and three-quarters (75%)…
Whichever supermajority of Whites you choose, even if every White who resides in it cares for his people, you’ll find objection about all of the non-Whites who remain from White separatists who favor an exclusive White ethnostate — that Jew-owned Merriam-Webster defines as:
ethnostate (noun) – a sovereign state that restricts citizenship or full rights to members of a particular racial or ethnic group.
Hi Will,
“Like I said, Kim, White Nationalism is a very big tent. Just ask Wimpy (Hamburger Today)…he kept insisting that WN includes everyone who simply cares for White people. Is Wimpy correct?”
That is very amusing. No, with regard to Hamburger Today. White Nationalists = White people who want to preserve White Nation(s).
“I’d like a super majority of Whites in my nation– even if that “nation” ends up being smaller than 1 single U.S. State.’ “Be careful with the words you choose, Kim. That sounds like a plan for defeated losers to me.”
I was simply trying to be brief, + allow creativity. At a bare minimum, if there’s anyone who says he believes Whites are undeserving of 1, single, all-White country on planet earth, we know he can not be reasoned with. (Also, please keep in mind, even high-chutzpah, and not-shy-about-using-terrorism Jews, started off pretty modestly when negotiating their plan for the state of Israel)
“Which supermajority of Whites do you prefer in your country…”
You men can decide on the exact political style, but as far as “which Whites” I would suggest keeping things simple, *begin* with looking over those who self-identify as White. (And of course, everyone should know by now, Jews are not White, according to observant Jews, as well as Israeli courts.)
“Identitarian tells nothing. Who’s that, someone who checks IDs?”
Hey Will, how about “ID-Checking Aryans”? 😎
I just support good old White Power for us as aspirations toward political power via racial reconquering and genetic expansion. It’s also spitting burning venom into the eyes of our enemies, extols the utmost seriousness of our cause, and militantly asserts us, Europeans and their diasporas, as a not-to-be-fucked-with ascendant power that has returned with a vengeance, scrapping our past baggage as mere consumers and disposable playthings of jews. I’ve always liked it. No, I haven’t read Commander Rockwell’s book, and agree with you on always capitalizing White and lowercasing our enemies whom should be held in total contempt. ‘It’s okay to be White’ is the most nauseating, pitiful expression of weakness I’ve ever heard and belongs on the bonfires with hirschfeld’s and other Weimar jews’ degenerate books.
When will racially loyal men and women “retire” that Ebonic word?
Yeah, really. It needs to be in the same scrapheap as “my bad”.
Agreed. It’s also the most honest. Left vs Right is a secondary issue compared to our main goal, which is white advocacy. I’d take an all white communist nation over a heavily black conservative one.
Yes, but that political preference would be considered “Right-wing.”
Right-line or Hard-right.
I like “Hard Right”. It takes ownership of a term that, while similar to one that is habitually used to slander us (“Far Right”), id not yet that widespread.
Plus its metal. And chicks like “hard” men
The Revenant Right.
America first.
White identity, Protestant Christianity, and free speech are all implicit in the word “America”.
Every wholesome element of the dissident right involved a defense of White identity and interests against the racial revolution, or a defense of Protestant Christian sexual morality and gender roles against the sexual revolution, or an insistence on open and honest discussion, against the Jewish tendency to censorship.
The elements of the dissident right which were hostile to Christianity or contemptuous of America paved the way for the rise of “Alt-Lite” Mencius Moldbug and BAP, the new right wing of Jewish supremacy, the replacement for the Neocons.
But “America First” lacks the pan-European element that provides cohesion to this racially conscious right-wing idea—especially in places such as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and the Southern Cone of America.
The Hard Starboard, whose activists are starboards
There could even be a new zine: The Starboard List
I will stick with “White Nationalist,” we need to be very specific that our movement is for whites only—all other races excluded! 🙃
White Power is still my personal favorite. Vitalism? 3rd Wave? Ethnofuturism? For our enemies: zerolutionaries.
Uncle Semantic: October 9, 2025 White Power is still my personal favorite. Vitalism? 3rd Wave? Ethnofuturism? For our enemies: zerolutionaries.
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White Power is more a goal than what one might answer if asked, “How do you identify yourself”?
As for your other identifiars, ??? Pro-White leaves no doubt what we are.
White Right
It’s difficult to not bring right or conservative into the name since it would be a negative to include the whites out there that attack ICE and us. I see us all as literal white nationalists. I only wish it was more exclusive of the whites that fight against their own kind.
Flel: October 6, 2025 It’s difficult to not bring right or conservative into the name since it would be a negative to include the whites out there that attack ICE and us. I see us all as literal white nationalists. I only wish it was more exclusive of the whites that fight against their own kind...
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Why do you believe it’s difficult for serious White separatists to exclude from their ranks certain Whites who are deemed ineligible?
Wishing is like praying, Flel. It does nothing to preserve our race.
Inclusion in the ranks of serious White loyalists cannot include many who identify as merely right-wing or conservative, or even members of ICE, who at this point are paid JOG mercenaries. the newly enlisted ones anyway.
How many members of ICE are non-White if half of border control agents are non-White? ICE is offering a robust package of federal law enforcement incentives. You may be entitled to these benefits: ICE Receives More than 150,000 Applications to Join ICE Law Enforcement to Help Remove Worst of the Worst Criminal Illegal Aliens from U.S. | Homeland Security
A maximum $50,000 signing bonus
Student loan repayment and forgiveness options
25% Law Enforcement Availability Pay (LEAP) for HSI Special Agents
The country is too-far-gone already for it to remove tens of millions of racial aliens from White living space. What’s to keep Homeland Security at some point to hire Special Agent goons to remove those deemed by them to be pro-White “domestic terrorists?”
White Right
Anti-Zionism has become a popular brand with cross-party appeal. Anti-Zionism has a lot of intellectual credibility. Many big-brained professors are anti-Zionists. Being an anti-Zionist is a litmus test for being in the Dissident Right already. We could brand ourselves as “the Anti-Zionist Right.” It’s a polite term and it leaves the possibility of a larger tent than just being hardline White Nationalists
I’m going to say something controversial:
By obsessing over Zionism we ignore the actual nature of ProblematicJewishBehaviorTM and, in the long run, hinder our efforts to help our people. Here is where I’m coming from:
1. Around 45% of the world’s Jews live in Israel, another 45% in America, and the rest are spread across the world. The modern anti-Zionist movement is filled with people who want Israel to be crushed by its neighbors. What happens after that? We don’t need millions of Israeli Jews moving to Europe, North America, Australia, etc. It’s in our interest if more Jews “make aliyah” and move to Israel.
2. It’s something of a well known fact that many of the most active BDS activists are self-hating-Jews. We don’t want to unite with those people.
3. I’m tired of being told by anti-Zionists that I should support brown people who hate the West. The Arabs are not our natural allies.
4. Hyperfocusing on Jews causes us to ignore our other enemies.
5. The modern anti-Zionist movement (in terms of campus activism) is almost entirely inspired by a form of anti-White politics that sees Israeli Jews as Western colonizers.
Very true, the usefulness of anti-Zionism had a limited timeline and the death of Charlie Kirk reveals the futility of the coalition
Charlie Kirk was a Christian zealot and un-American. He wanted to ban Satanism, a legally recognized religion. I don’t want to be ruled by any Abrahamic cult.
Read his opinion piece in Newsweek on the call to ban Satanism.
I don’t care for Christianity either but he was not un-American. He was coming around to pro-white views.
You’ve reminded me of my first exposure to White Nationalism on the Internet. In high school I found Joy of Satan and found it enthralling. I was amused by the idea of the Unite All Satanists rally that was being planed. I was confused about the Aryan aliens but tried to get on, until I found the page devoted “in loving memory to Heinrich Himmler” then abandoned it quickly. I wasn’t ready for that kind of message yet. But before I found that page and quit I had sent an email asking if it was possible to summon a real fireball, and never got a response back.
He was un-American in the sense that he wanted to ban religions he didn’t approve of such as Satanism. That’s not very freedom loving IMO.
I looked into the Joy of Satan as well (now called Joy of Zeus), but I’m not drawn to theistic Satanism.
I support a strong and secure Israel as a homeland for the Jews. However, the US government should give them nothing. No money, no weapons, no diplomatic support. And AIPAC should be required to register as a foreign lobby.
As for immigration, we should take in no more. America is full and overflowing. And if we do take in a few immigrants, they should all be White, such as refugees from Ukraine. Whites are productive and hard-working. Iryna Zarutska was a good example, before she was murdered by a black.
No more blacks, who are a huge liability. Biden-Mayorkas let in parasites from Haiti and Africa, who demand welfare, commit violent crimes, and wreck our country. America would better off with more Whites and fewer blacks.
If America stops military support for Israel wouldn’t it immediately be crushed by its neighbours?
Israel would survive just fine without American support. America didn’t start giving substantial foreign aid to Israel until Carter’s Camp David Accords (1978?), and America didn’t start fighting Israel’s wars until Operation Desert Shield (1990).
They did just fine without us before then. They have nuclear weapons, the only fully modern conventional military in the Middle East, fierce tribalism, tight immigration control, a replacement level birthrate, and billionaire diaspora Jew supporters who could easily replace the financial support of the US and German governments.
But without American support, they might reconsider their ambition to expand. Cabinet members of the current Israeli government are on record wanting to expand at the expense of Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria.
They lie to us, crying about the impending doom of Israel, implicitly threatening to move to our country and boost the ranks of diaspora Jews, because they want to trick us into fighting their battles and paying their bills.
They threaten us, they lie to us, and they bribe our leaders. We need to call their bluff, refute their lies, and spurn their bribes.
It seems to be impossible to get at least a rough estimate of the money obtained from the Germans.
https://www.gauthmath.com/solution/1819590654663718/How-much-money-does-Germany-give-Israel-yearly
Germany’s financial support to Israel is multifaceted and varies yearly, making it impossible to state a single annual figure.
I don’t see how. Plus they have a nuclear deterrent.
🙂
The problem isn’t Zionism per se. The problem is Jewish supremacy: the belief that a Jewish life is incomparably more valuable than a non-Jewish life, therefore the only acceptable standard of right and wrong is “Is it good for the Jews?”
Zionism without Jewish supremacy wouldn’t be a problem, but Jewish supremacy would still be a problem without Zionism. Diaspora Jewish supremacy was a major problem for our people for 2000 years. Zionism was sold to us as a solution for diaspora Jewish supremacy – “Let us move to Palestine and earn an honest living picking oranges on a kibbutz, then we won’t need to be criminals anymore!” But in fact, the state of Israel reinforces diaspora Jewish supremacy by providing a refuge for Jewish criminals.
White Americans and Palestinians now face the same problem. Neither people can have a dignified future unless Jewish supremacy is dismantled in the USA.
Leftist anti-Zionism and Muslim anti-Zionism are exercises in futility. They misunderstand the nature of their opponent. Tactics and strategies which were successful against White settler colonies and European ethno-nationalists are totally ineffective against Jewish supremacists. Aaron Bushnell’s self immolation would shock the conscious of a White settler-colonist, but Jewish supremacists laugh at such tactics.
White Americans, Jews and Palestinians should each have a viable ethno-state in their land of origin. The Holy Land can be divided 50/50 between a Jewish state and a Palestinian state, the Palestinians can be compensated for their lost land with trillions seized from the wealth of diaspora Jews, and the remaining trillions of dollars of wealth of the diaspora Jews can be given to White Americans to compensate us for the crimes of diaspora Jewry.
When Jews are deprived of their wealth (and thus their power) and deported to the rump state of Israel, and Palestinians are allowed to return to the liberated and well-funded state of Palestine, White Americans will once more be in control of our own destiny in this, the country of our ancestors.
We need to build the largest possible coalition against Jewish supremacy to accomplish this goal. All non-Jews, and the most idealistic Jews, should be considered as potential allies in this supremely moral undertaking.
Dani, I agree 100% with this. Nicely put too.
(I just noticed your comment to Dani. That answered my question.)
Wrong. We are finally gaining ground on our opponent, not AN opponent, OUR (eternal) OPPONENT.
Why would you counsel to take the foot off the pedal just as we are achieving victories in the present that many amongst us thought impossible in their lifestimes just 5 years ago.
“We shouldn’t ignore our other enemies”
Really? Im not calling you a zionist shill, but you sure talk like one.
Morgan Ariel has said she is NOT Jewish and that her surname is French. I know very little about her. What’s the evidence she’s Jewish besides that semitic-sounding surname and a slightly sus schnozzle that is still within European parameters? She might simply be un femme de la froggelande with un noze grande.
And seeing some of those old HBD blogger names and handles like Half Sigma/Lion, Roissy/Chateau, Steve Sailer etc brought back memories. In my opinion, the HBD shit and the adjacent PUA degeneracy was huge a setback for increasing White racial consciousness. All of that IQ obsession was a big fucking distraction and to some degree it remains so. Race over IQ. I don’t give a fuck about IQ. East Asians have a higher average IQ than Whites? Ok good for them.
As for movement names: White Nationalism and Pro-White are decent enough in my opinon. I like that they’re clear about the racial dimension and have no risk of being mistaken for some manner of kosher cuckservative boomer bullshit fox news faggotry. “White Right” may work but it’s a bit of a tongue-twister and perhaps a bit too negrishly-rhyming or comedic.
Morgan Ariel has said that she is Jewish in the past and after her rebrand claimed that was a mistake. Her mom thought they were Jewish but after checking found that was not the case.
She is allied with Stew Peters who is one of the shadiest characters in game so my willingness to give her the benefit of the doubt is low.
Noted. Based on what you’ve said, at the minimum she has “muddied the waters” and so has made herself look suspicious even if she’s not a Jew.
Also, is it true she has admitted to having had HPV genital warts at one time? I have seen some screenshots, but I don’t know if they’re authentic, of her trying to sell some supposed treatment or something.
She gives off a very grift-y vibe in any case which does not help dispell the Jew rumors.
The article expresses excessive optimism. Yes, a number of alt-right/dissident right ideas have entered the mainstream, but that does not mean they are dominant there. White nationalism is still labeled as extremism.
The first dividends from all this activism we are doing are JUST NOW starting to be felt. The first wave of OG Alt Righters like Richard Hanania and Mike Benz are just now reaching positions of significant influence. It takes that long for the most talented people to rise up the ladder to get to positions of significant mainstream influence.
Infiltration is a slow process and requires patience. It takes time for people hirer up the ladder to quit, retire, or get promoted. It is a slow process but in this case, you can expect to accelerate in the coming years.
Hanania and Benz came into the movement when we numbered in the tens of thousands. Of those tens of thousands, those two broke through. There are probably dozens of others who successfully hid their past Alt Right involvement that we will never know about. A few years later, we numbered in the hundreds of thousands. Of those hundreds of thousands, an even larger number of people will break through and the effect will be even great.
This process will accelerate in the coming years. I believe that the GOP becoming crypto or quasi white nationalist within the next decade is fait accompli.
That said, I am somewhat pessimistic about “the movement”. The normalization of white nationalism is great but the downside is that we will be increasingly have to compete with mainstream outlets for talent. Why write for AmRen when you can advocate for whites for at some big money corporate media outlet? Tucker will let you criticize Jews on his outlet.
Now, we could say “we’ve won”, call it a day, shake hands and have annual Alt Right reunions but if “the movement” wants to continue existing as something distinct for the broader right-wing sphere, it will require some re-strategizing which starts a rebrand. That’s the reason why I wrote this article.
Yeah, but Hanania has little in common with us as he currently stands. I found him milquetoast as Richard hoste even. Is this a prize horse we should be emoting over?
Hanania has little in common with us these day but if you think of “the movement” as a talent pool, he is still a product of this talent pool. That Hanania sold out does not change the fact that he came from these circles and went on to become successful. That’s still a W for the brand image because it will make others look here for talent and it lends credibility to other people who come from here.
I am pro-White. Everyone should be pro-White. Many people are antiwhite but no one should be antiwhite.
This is not a matter of fashion and there will not be next terms after these. The fate of our race is everything. Whether mass media figures think this is more or less offensive is nothing.
I prefer pro-White and White Nationalist. I am OK with alt-right and dissident right.
I hate anything containing the word “woke”. It was invented in the 1930’s by black supremacists, to denote those who wage war on the White race. Since 2015, its definition has been expanded to include druggies and perverts. That’s good. Let them keep that word for themselves. For us, it is useful as a term of ridicule. Degenerates hate it when we call them “woke”.
I use the term White nationalist because that’s what I am, but I don’t get the hate for the term Dissident Right; and I think it’s still applicable to us. America is a large multi-racial state, and the wider American Right is basically content with that, whereas I would like to have smaller White ethnostate. Therefore I’m still a ‘dissident’ right-winger. The fact that mainstream right-wing figures are more willing to oppose H-1b visas and say that 13-do-60 than they were a decade ago, or that administration is taking some steps to counter anti-White bias in ‘our’ institutions, doesn’t change that basic truth. Sure, I welcome these things, just as I would welcome the government sending me a stimulus check; but these matters are not the point of my politics, the ethnostate is.
I understand that we’re grading conservatives on-a-curve here, but even still we should have higher standards than what we’re currently getting. Look at the way elected Democratic officials are going to-the-mat to protect antifa and anti-ICE ramble-rousers. Now imagine that there were another Charlottesville-sized demonstration; how many GOP governors and congressmen would do the same for our (much-more-peaceful) ramble-rousers?
I favor White Nationalist, Identitarian or Racialist, but how about anti Abrahamic cults? Obviously the JQ is essential, but we need to emphasize the CQ as well. No need to burn down churches as so many are being turned into condos, but the Turning point zealots are a problem.
The term “Alt-Right” was okay in the day, but post-Charlottesville, it just seems “Fake & Gay” to my ears.
I’ve never liked the term “Dissident Right.”
I prefer the term “White Nationalist.” If that triggers the eeks and ooks from the usual suspects, that’s fine by me.
“White Power” works wonders too.
I don’t have a problem with “pro-White” for convenience, since that goes without saying.
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I’m perfectly fine going all the way up to “white supremacist”, I don’t even deny the label. I consider the white way of life and our people to be superior, as to whether that’s a subjective or an objective valuation, is irrelevant.
We only managed to expand and colonize, while maintaining the purity of our blood, with a belief in white supremacy. What would’ve happened to the United States if the founders weren’t racially aware? If we never had anti-miscegenation laws? If we didn’t end up pushing out the displaced Indians, and instead intermarried with them? Would there have been a man on the moon in the 20th century? The internet? Silicon Valley? These are good questions because I see even contemporary white nationalists being pretty cowardly on the intermarriage question, and even the white nationalism of today wouldn’t have been good enough back then. Latin Americans once came to believe the same copes I see forming today when their intermarriage rates passed the point of no return. The start of their Redemption of Ham myth was the belief that you’d have the miscegenation resulting in a sort of Nick Fuentes admixture and it’d be fine, and the contemporary state of their nations is the fruit of that. You’re already starting to see people on the right floating the idea of opening up white nationalism to “white passing” Hispanics, I say with quotes because we all know it’s the thin end of the wedge.
If we only managed to expand and grow with a belief in white supremacy, it’s likely we can only restore white nations with the same belief. I’m perfectly fine with other races claiming supremacy too, as it gives further legitimacy to separation. The Chinese want to claim to be the superior race? Okay, let us whites not defile their supposedly superior civilization, let us go our own way. But let’s be real, for other races without first world economies of their own, they really do believe in white supremacy themselves. And asserting white supremacy simply cuts closer to the truth. Their belief in white supremacy is in large part the actual cause and reason for white dispossession. They wouldn’t themselves be piling into white countries, into white neighborhoods and loudly bleating at any cultural barriers to their intermarriage if they didn’t think we are superior. They will always work to never let us have a white nation, because they don’t want an example that excludes them. Your cries of subjective valuation, diversity of all peoples and human biodiversity will always fall on flat ears, so don’t even bother making those arguments.
“White supremacist” is the big red line they’ve set for a reason. It has nothing to do with the risk of harm resulting from the belief, or any supposed immorality of such a belief. It’s because they know that it’s effective. There’s no actual reason to compromise short of this.
White Supremacist sounds a wee bit unseemly in 2025, but you are right that to identify as one takes confidence. I always heard the line that to be a Supremacist means you want to rule over other races. Personally, I just want other races to leave us the hell alone. On the other hand, yeah, I want their numbers to be brought down on this earth because we need access to resources. The White way is the superior way.
I always heard the line that to be a Supremacist means you want to rule over other races.
I think that line comes from Jared Taylor. And he’s a great man, but I do disagree, you can regard your people as superior without taking the next step to wanting to rule over others. White supremacy can be used to justify expansion and dominance, but it can also be limited to segregation, remigration and anti-miscegenation. And as far as I’m aware, segregation, displacement and anti-miscegenation laws haven’t happened anywhere without a mainstreamed belief in racial supremacy.
The Nazi expansionist belief was justified through Malthusian reasoning alongside racial supremacy, where markets would shrink and the nations that didn’t expand would inevitably disappear. In a world with declining birthrates and all this abundant energy, I don’t think that really applies. I don’t actually want whites to expand and conquer others. If actual Malthusian conditions returned and our people were starving, sure, then it could be a question (it would be a question for all nations then), but that’s not the world now.
If white civilization does decline due to the Great Replacement, I do think it would collapse the global economy, and we could very well have a return to Malthusian conditions regardless. The Great Replacement is happening in basically every western country at once, and if dozens of them snap at once and collapse to third world levels, it would be the greatest economic catastrophe in history. The question of restoring white nations isn’t just about the future of the race, it’s about the entire world.
There’s negative connotations around the term because it’s associated with braggart behavior, and also because people want to be polite (it doesn’t really feel good telling others your people are superior, it can feel a bit iffy), and also because it’s the most heavily policed as the big bad. But read old racialist literature like Stoddard or Grant, they were open about white supremacy. People were only convinced about our ideas back when they were openly framed and discussed in terms of superior and inferior. We should not be so reflexively defensive and throw the concept of white supremacy under the bus because our enemies morally tone-police the conversation. But nor should we assert it with a gloating smile and laughter, it should be just presented as a fact of nature in a sterile, academic way.
Yes, in the time of Stoddart and Grant White people had guts. In terms of access to planetary resources, we know China is on the march. If White people have any projects we should have the guts to not let anything get in our way.
Dude, there are nonwhite countries with nuclear arsenals. The conquer the world days are over.
Greg, we can invent weapons better than nukes. We can invent technologies that will render atomic bombs useless.
Don’t be ridiculous.
Yeah, let’s not go all the way. Let’s just tap dance around the edges while those races that are not effete and believe their way is the best inherit the earth.
Don’t be a fop.
I believe that Tom Metzger, who was going bald so started sporting the dumb Skinhead look, made the very decent point on 1970s or 1980s TV that he considered himself a “White Separatist” rather than a White Supreemist. He thought that we could, thank you very much, pick our own damn cotton (or let our machines do it for us).
All well and good, but I think that this is a distinction without a difference.
If push comes to shove, we have to do whatever is necessary to survive and to thrive.
I disagree with those who think that WWII was some kind of a Malthusian paradigm.
Sure, the exponent of economic Autarky himself, Adolf Hitler, said that “Germany must export or die” ─ but Germany was in fact highly competitive in world markets, and they had invented entirely new industries such as nitrogen chemistry and dyestuffs in the later part of the Industrial Revolution.
The atom was first split in Germany in the 1930s, for example, which is why the Jews Dr. Leo Szilard and Dr. Albert Einstein, plus Dr. Edward Teller ─ who drove the car to Long Island to meet Einstein for Szilard who could not drive ─ convinced President Roosevelt to dump an unlimited amount of resources into the Manhattan Project for the U.S. Army. The U.S. Navy, which was interested in atomic propulsion for ships and submarines, was only mildly interested until the end of the war.
Also, we would expect that Germany would have pursued some aspects of a Pan Germanic foreign policy in the course of its history; any Nationalist German would have done so.
I also think that the World War II Jew/Slav Genocide theory is hugely overstated. That is not what the two World Wars were about. The only winners were Communism, and Globalism led by the United States.
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We Whites have to do whatever is necessary for our race to survive and to thrive.
I very much like what you’ve written here. It gets to a subtle and powerful truth about White identity and is a elegant and much-needed reclamation of White Pride. It is a discouraging and disgraceful state of affairs that its general usage would send so many of the uninitiated running screaming for the exits; but as you point out, that demonstrates the need for the assertion of the concept.
Whenever I hear the term “White privilege”, my own internal dialogue is, “You’re damn right it’s a privilege to be White, and thank God my ancestors kept it that way!” That is something I do not hesitate to express.
No one is going to mention this??
“What I am saying is that the next generation of White Nationalist heroes will be networkers and fundraisers, glad handers, and charming midwits. Not the kind of people I would choose to have a beer with, but we’re gonna need them in order to climb out of the Internet.”
This pathetic snobbery is vile. Oh that we should all be as wonderful as to be included in having beers with you. Your club, whatever it’s named, can live without us, I’m sure.
It’s called The Autistic Roundtable.
That’s your hall pass? Explain it then so we can all be wowed by how much it makes sense to shit on everyone who you deem unworthy.
Did I fuck your girlfriend or something? All I am saying is that I prefer the company to intellectuals and creative types to politicians. I don’t understand the hostility.
“Did I fuck your girlfriend or something?” How very “intellectual.” Not exactly Frasier Crane, are you?
This paragraph in your article sounds no different than being snotty about white people from West Virginia or Alabama over wherever the hell you probably think is worthy of your beer. I’m sure you were just going for sounding extra cool, but it comes off badly when you are trying to create a coalition among people with a common goal.
I like “White Nationalist” the best because it goes beyond the more generic “pro-white” or “identitarian” by emphasizing the need for separation. If we believe that it is necessary and moral for Whites to have our own racially exclusive homelands run by our people for our people, then there is no reason to shy away from the label.
Dave Chambers: October 7, 2025 I like “White Nationalist” the best because it goes beyond the more generic “pro-white”…
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You’re wrong, Dave, but that’s your perogative. Someone get Wimpy back in here to define generic White nationalism for us and you’ll see why WN is not more definitive than simple pro-White. Maybe I can did up his definition of WN when I have time.
My 2 cents
I believe one of the problems we have with “average, ordinary, conservative white Americans”, the people who are OUR most natural constituency, is that they have (wrongly) perceived themselves the dominant political force in America for several generations. Up until the last decade, ordinary white Americans would have actually believed that they had political advantages over black people, for instance. Out of a misplaced sense of guilt, they might half heartedly supported some affirmative action measures.
IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT that white people no longer perceive their status as having advantages. They must no longer (wrongly) perceive that the system favors them. It is precisely because that system is failing them, and they are no longer blind to it, or dismissive of it, that we have seen the Overton window shift.
I can see how the term “dissident” may not work well in the current state of things. But whatever term we may choose, it needs to confer the reality that the geopolitical scene no longer favors White Americans or Europeans. It needs to convey that we are on our back foot. One of the main drivers of the various flavors of egalitarianism and leftist/liberal politics in the 20th century was “fighting the man”, or “patriarchy” or “white supremacy” but coming at it from a position of being the underdog or the oppressed. It gives people the will to fight when they sense injustice being inflicted upon them. We need, for now, to only heighten that sense with our new fellow travelers, and not get too ahead of ourselves with the ascendant stuff.
Pan-European
Pan-Europeans
European advocate
Pro-European
European Identitarians
Euro-Civilizationists?
European Revivalists?
White Internationalist?
I’d eventually like to move away from “White”. It just encourages the “it’s only skin color” people. And it almost lets people not take the cultures associated with it as seriously. When you have a distinct name like European or Aryan it’s like Asian, Aborigines etc. The problem with European is that people can try to pidgeon hole it to geography. If a term like Aryan was really popular and didn’t have as much baggage I think it would be best. When it’s specifically named I think it forces people to take that we have our own people and culture worth protecting and we are our own racial group more seriously
But for the foreseeable future something “-“-White-” can be useful.
Blacks are not literally black any more than Whites are literally white.
I don’t think anybody besides Sunday school kids or grade schoolers believe that Race is only skin deep.
Just pose the question whether Blacks actually believe in this. They don’t.
And for them, Sub-Saharan African heritage easily transcends shades of skin color.
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You‘d be surprised how many people actually only think in skin color. And it also makes it harder for people arguing in bad faith to make the skin color argument. If there was a more scientific name like the Aboriginals have to describe Europeans then it would be extremely powerful in persuading people that we have our own group, culture and interests worth preserving.
Antiglobalist.
Globalism is a broad term we can generally define as an ideological commitment in favour of globalization. It’s a view that considers globalization as entirely positive. Moreover, the ideology of globalism is based on the belief that people, information, and goods should be able to cross national borders unrestricted. It places the interests of the entire globe above the interests of individual nations. Globalism can also refer to a socio-economic system that is dedicated to free trade and free access to markets.
It’s a start; this term covers the most important thing, that identification with our race is built in.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of anti-globalist commies.
Can you explain? If any communist claims to be anti-globalist, he is lying. Telling lies is the commies’ stock in trade. That is what they do. Look at the origins of communism. Their function is to lie, confuse, and create chaos.
I have always been very fond of identitarianism, and it was only here on CC that I encountered intelligent white nationalism and the dissident right. In our country, dissidents are associated with the former regime and were mostly drunkards, writers, and members of underground and hippie bands. Yes, we were dissidents, but now it’s time to claim power and move from ideas and internet activism towards a white ethnostate. Winning all internet discussions is not enough.
The problem with identitarian is that there are many splits within European identity which can become very violent at times, particularly in Eastern Europe (balkans) and the Celtic regions for some reason. These differences can even be weaponized by our enemies. That’s what I suspect is going on with Russia/ukraine right now.
That’s bad framing. Identitarians are for identity politics for everyone. And for the sovereign homelands of individual nations. No identitarian supports a violent multicultural Russian empire. Many identitarians support Ukrainian and Russian ethno-nationalists.
“Common-Sense Right”