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New Pedophilia Allegations Surface Against Nick Fuentes & the Groypers
Jason Kessler1,519 words 
A recent uptick in the sexualization of children by Mexican-American streamer Nicholas Fuentes and his Groyper army has exploded in a wave of child rape threats and alleged child porn proliferation.
Several years ago, I was the first to report on the noticeable pandering to pedophiles from Nicholas Fuentes and his “America First” Groypers. At the time, his AFPAC event prominently featured confirmed pedophiles and it was public knowledge that Fuentes had willingly allowed gay men access to his underage fans.
Fuentes gave command of his organization to homosexual black pedophile Ali Alexander who has faced repeated allegations of sexually assaulting underage boys in the America First movement. Even after this information became public knowledge Fuentes dragged his feet on cutting ties with Alexander, hoping to ride the storm out. Alexander finally agreed to “bow out of public life” after fellow homosexual and former Fuentes ally Milo Yiannopolous released screenshots of an explicit sexual exchange from May 2019 between Alexander and Lance Johnston, an underage Fuentes fan. “You don’t even send me videos anymore,” Alexander wrote. “No good jack off material. Don’t even wanna be my side piece.” Another victim, Aidan Duncan, accused Alexander of soliciting nude photographs when he was only 15.
In response to the scandal, Fuentes attacked the accusers on his nightly America First livestream, “At 15 or 16 or 17, I think that you know what you’re doing.”
Nick Fuentes once again blames Ali Alexander’s underage victims:
“At 15 or 16 or 17, I think that you know what you’re doing.” pic.twitter.com/KziILDxFj6
— An Open Secret (@AnOpenSecret) April 18, 2023
Since that time, Fuentes has only doubled down: repeatedly sexualizing underage minors, chanting “RAPE, RAPE, RAPE!” at a 14 year old girl, and inspiring a wave of memes depicting an underage character, “Daughterjak” being violently raped and tortured. In one instance, Fuentes, allegedly a devout Catholic, insinuated that the Virgin Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit at 13 years old because children are more attractive: “I’m searching in the shallow end of the pool! I’m looking for the ones who can’t swim,” Fuentes said, referencing the shallow end of a swimming pool used by young children.
here is a clip of Nick Fuentes and Beardson (a 35+ year old groyper lieutenant) chanting “RAPE RAPE RAPE” at an underaged girl while playing video games pic.twitter.com/iH3seG3NGZ
— Chris Brunet (@realChrisBrunet) December 14, 2024
According to journalist Chris Brunet, a segment of explicitly pedophilia-supporting Groypers have organized themselves into a social media clique called the “Snowflake gang,” self-identifying with a snowflake emoji which “is supposed to represent the innocence or purity of a child.” An example of a typical “Snowflake gang” post might show cartoon children depicted in sexualized and even pornographic scenarios.
(Left) Fuentes ally Jon Miller posts a meme depicting a white family, including a young daughter being ritualistically tortured [2.2k likes]. (Right) A “Snowflake” Groyper depicts a pregnant underage girl [87 likes].
Screenshot from leaked Groyper chat in which Morgen Ariel’s daughter is discussed.
(Left) Prominent Groypers coordinate a harassment campaign against a newborn’s family.
(Right) A blurred image of a child depicted in coitus with a Groyper whose eyes read RAPE.
The pressure over this controversy has been so great that Fuentes himself has made a statement, for the first time, denouncing the optics of rape threats. “Whoever is posting the kid rape stuff needs to stop its not a good look and its gross,” he wrote on Telegram. Yet given his history, its hard to believe the disavowal was sincere rather than a possible suggestion of legal counsel. After all he has, in Jim Jones fashion, demanded his followers pledge to “kill, rape and die for Nicholas J. Fuentes”, described hanging out with openly gay pedophiles as “based” [2] and ignored weeks of graphic cartoons from his followers depicting violence and sexual assault of minors. Additionally, Fuentes has repeatedly denounced age of consent laws and argued that children are more sexually attractive than consenting age adults.
When the scandal broke, Fuentes was furiously defended by provocateur and proud federal informant Charles Johnson (full disclosure: I wrote for Chuck Johnson’s Got News 8 years ago). Johnson’s line of defense was questionable to say the least. It involved him defending Fuentes and infamous Jewish pedophile kingpin Jeffrey Epstein. “Jeffrey Epstein did everything he could to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world,” Johson wrote on X, “Those of us who knew him know that he was wrongly treated by compromised Feds and the criminal Mormons network. I think about his sacrifice often.” Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of procuring a child for prostitution and soliciting a prostitute. This conviction occurred in 2008 in a Florida state court. Epstein died in August 2019 while awaiting trial for additional charges of sex trafficking of minors and conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors. Johnson continued his bizarre defense of his friend Fuentes, “It matters not a whit to me if he is a homosexual or a federal informant (as if that were a bad thing) or a Catholic or Latin.”
In August 2022, Groyper fanatic Alejandro Richard Velasquez Gomez, aka “Latino Zoomer,” was charged with possession of child pornography for images found on his phone. Fuentes had previously defended him against accusations of grooming a 13 year old child.
Fuentes and Alejandro Gomez, charged with possession of child pornography.
Prior to this Catboy Kami (real name Tor Gustafsson Brookes), a close former associate who alleges he was Fuentes’ first kiss, was exposed for having a pedophilia adjacent addiction to Lollicon, or porn depicting cartoon children in simulated sex acts. In one instance a streamer named LeoPirate asked him during a livestream, “One of the guys joked about you masturbating to children and you corrected him: ‘No, no I masturbate to anime Lolis. Big difference.’ Do you actually masturbate to Lolicon, to illustrated images of children?”
“I have jacked off to Loli hentai in the past,” Kami admitted.
Fuentes and Tor Brookes (aka Catboy Kami).
Fuentes has recently had a tempestuous falling out with homosexual conservative gadfly Milo Yiannopolous. They became close collaborators shortly after Yiannopolous was cancelled for making comments interpreted as condoning homosexual pedophilia:
“In the homosexual world, particularly, some of those relationships between younger boys and older men — the sort of ‘coming of age’ relationships — the relationships in which those older men help those young boys to discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable sort of rock.”
In the aftermath of the controversy, Fuentes’ nascent bond to Yiannopolous resulted in several networking coups, including Yiannopolous introducing him to rapper Kanye West and setting up the infamous dinner at Mar-A-Lago with Former President Donald Trump.
Now I am sure at least some of you are wondering “How will Nick Fuentes building a pedophile grooming cult help save the white race?”
It won’t. The white race is the furthest thing from these people’s minds. They can only bring shame upon the pro-white movement.
Is pedogate the end for Nick Fuentes? It would be, if his movement had anything to do with saving white people. It would be, if his followers had any standards at all, beyond clinging to Fuentes’ every word and tic.
But could it get any worse? Of course it could get worse. I’ve given you ample evidence that this is a cult that attracts and cultivates psychopaths.
How much worse? The best case scenario is that Fuentes ends up like Richard Spencer: an embittered buffoon who occasionally doxes a former associate but spends most of his time tweeting. Fuentes, however, is much more talented. So he’ll take a lot more people down with him. I’m betting it will be somewhere between Heaven’s Gate and a school shooting.
What can be done? Very little. Just make sure you aren’t pulled down with Fuentes.
Fuentes brings people like Jared Taylor, Keith Woods, Anthony Cumia, and Kevin Deanna (Greg Hood, James Kirkpatrick), to his events. When people raise questions about Fuentes, his apologists routinely trot these names out as endorsements to silence doubters. Better people need to stop lending their credibility to Fuentes, before he tarnishes them all.
Jason Kessler is the author of Charlottesville and the Death of Free Speech, available now from Dissident Press. Follow him on Telegram, Twitter,Youtube, Odysee, and Gab. Also follow Dissident Press on Twitter/X. We follow you back!
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What a bunch of freaks.
As a casual 4channer, this looks about what I’d imagine if you told me /pol/ had started a political movement. If you find yourself in the company of furries and lolicons, run for the hills and burn every bridge you cross on the way there.
Fuentes himself is such an obvious plant running his own little Diddy/Epstein experiment on the “Alt Right” just to incriminate and embarrass white people by association.
By the way, I’m sure /pol/ itself serves a similar purpose, don’t expect true anonymity anywhere and always post as if there is an unseen eye on you (the state’s, or God’s, whoever you think you’ll have to explain yourself to eventually).
Nonsense. The entire 4 Chan beside groyper agents condemned fuentes that’s why fuentes himself is anti /pol.
The original anti fuentes memes started on/pol.
I concur with every word of the conclusion, except the part about Fuentes being talented. I’ve never understood why people use this word to describe him. He has about as much talent as a sub-par shock jock, as any Howard Stern wannabe.
I think the point is that Fuentes is more talented than Spencer, which is surely true.
Greg Johnson: December 18, 2024 I think the point is that Fuentes is more talented than Spencer, which is surely true.
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Wifewaffen is more to the point with her comment. A talented freak is still a freak.
Surely, everyone associated with the misguided, half-baked but popularized alt-right losers were not freaks, but who have come out on the other side of that fiasco that is worthy of leadership of our people. Where are they now?
I think the point is that Fuentes is more talented than Spencer, which is surely true.
Yeah, but so’s everyone else on planet Earth.
I fervently disagree. Spencer was on a much higher intellectual level than this little goblin freak. The old Alternative Right site was actually pretty good, and nothing like the psychotic cesspool that is the Groyper cult. Of course, then Spencer lost his mind and became a Bolshevik loon.
You can fluke your way to Nick’s level of popularity by being at the right at the right time but you can’t maintain it over an extended period of time without some kind of talent. Gamergate is a good example of this. Gamergate created many, many, many e-celebs but from every one Milo or Sargon who took the ball and ran with it, there are 10 Mundane Matts who faded into obscurity after the fad waned.
To say Nick doesn’t have talent is to suggest that anyone could do what he does as successfully and that is not true. Nick has many imitators and they don’t all become as popular as him. It’s not that he isn’t talented. He’s just talented in ways you don’t appreciate.
What are the talents that I ought to appreciate in Nick Fuentes? What is it that he “does” so “successfully”? Being an e-celeb is not a talent, and calling it such is a pretty good indication of civilisational decline in America. If that’s the standard, then every Instagram influencer is “talented”.
Being an entertainer is a talent and not everyone can do it.
Being able to talk uninterrupted and unscripted for an hour straight on a subject without a co-host or guest to bounce off of is something few people can do. I couldn’t. People who can do it and be engaging the whole time is an even smaller fraction.
One should not lay so much at the altar of Substance that you completely disregard Style. Everyone who gets popular and stays there has something even if that something is an intangible and unquantifiable “it”. Even ethots who you might only got popular due to their looks have some je ne sais quoi that separates them from the millions of other ethots.
“Being an entertainer is a talent and not everyone can do it.
Being able to talk uninterrupted and unscripted for an hour straight on a subject without a co-host or guest to bounce off of is something few people can do.”
I just don’t think Fuentes is good (or talented, to use the word from before) at any of those things, and I’m not sure talking unscripted for hours is necessarily a talent either, or something that requires talent. Seems that it’s something everyone and their dog is doing in these days of unleashed narcissism. “Here’s what I’m thinking today, pay me” is not exactly Homer telling the Iliad or a seanachie enchanting a crowd with tales.
Charles Johnson himself tweeted, “There’s a danger that lurks with these sorts who lack the discipline of family and good taste.” That was written in the sentence preceding his unfollowing Chris Brunet on X.
This reads like a Travis Leblanc article, except he might be less harsh toward Fuentes. I think Fuentes IS super talented. He seems to have an extraordinarily high verbal IQ, in the way that people like that always do. I don’t follow him routinely, but it’s hard not to catch little clips here and there, and some of his spiels have been top notch and brilliant taken as excerpts, but the problem is they are seeded within such a framework of uneducated garbage, I have to conclude he is a wasted talent. Spencer has a much more educated and ordered mind. More serious leaders like duke et al. go to Fuentes events for access, to get their message to his large audience. Successful politics seems to require a razzmatazz, a showmanship, something of the Romantic, an element of unfulfillable promise, as with the rise of trump or Qanon movement, or even worse vax conspiracy. The left is that by definition. Well, Fuentes’s Star seems to be in some sort of nova stage, unfortunately. The question is will it be a white dwarf or go supernova?
Unfortunately, the mechanics of politics is that people throw loyalty and resources at cult of personality figures. So a narcissist with charisma and some jokes will get loads of donations which they can use to buy new cars, houses, etc.
Then you have guys who are doing real things for the White cause like fighting legal battles or forming intentional communities for Whites. Yet strategies that make sense can seem boring compared to a shock jock and most people are basically just looking for dumb entertainment. They don’t actually want to do anything about any problems.
Oh no, I’m with you. I’m just saying that’s how the world appears to work. I read on the splc website that anglin has received $4.8 million in Bitcoin from his followers since 2017. Is that present value or 2017?
Oh, that’s a good one! The $PLC itself has massive resources and a history of criticism about their fundraising practices, so they don’t have much reason to point fingers. I’ve seen pictures of the Morris Dees mansion online – the “Poverty Palace” is a real hoot, though a distant second compared to his divorce papers.
My point is that the more provocative or outlandish figures get more money, while people filing court documents are unnoticed. I’m not approving of splc or their spying.
Fuentes’ defenders often say a lot of it is a joke. They like to hide behind the “can’t you take a joke” or “it’s all irony” responses. And I think that regarding some of Fuentes’ inexcusable commentary as “just a joke” is how several people have been able to rationalize associating with Fuentes. But Fuentes shouldn’t be able to advocate for criminal activity and then get out of being held accountable by simply saying, “I was only joking.”
It reminds me of when Fuentes associate Beardson Beardly allegedly (I can’t remember the details) mocked child victims of the 2022 Kenosha Christmas parade attack, saying they would have grown up to be miscegenating whores anyway. And then in response to people expressing outrage over Beardson’s sick comments, Nick mocked those who felt sad at the thought of innocent children being killed in such an attack. Jaden McNeil, Nick’s former close AF associate, has catalogued all these sorts of things that Nick has done.
WeEnjoyRVTrips: December 20, 2024 Fuentes’ defenders often say a lot of it is a joke. They like to hide behind the “can’t you take a joke” or “it’s all irony” responses….
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Immature losers all, to be ignored and shunned.
I don’t really see Fuentes as a white nationalist anyhow, cavorting with those types of blacks and Hispanics. I see him more as a regime critic, or troublemaker, maybe similar to Unz in a way. Useful and aligned maybe, but fundamentally different. & Fuentes in particular is way too ideologically incoherent to hold my interest.
“Now I am sure at least some of you are wondering ‘How will Nick Fuentes building a pedophile grooming cult help save the white race?’ It won’t. The white race is the furthest thing from these people’s minds. They can only bring shame upon the pro-white movement.”
Precisely. I think the late Mr. Bowden would have counselled stepping over this debacle of a man.
Does this …
Fuentes brings people like Jared Taylor, Keith Woods, Anthony Cumia, and Kevin Deanna (Greg Hood, James Kirkpatrick), to his events.
refer to YOU? Are you Greg Hood? Why do you writer under “Kirkpatrick” (or is it “Deanna”?) if you already use your own name elsewhere.
Hey LS,
No, we’re not the same person. The irony is, for various reasons a while back I decided to start using my real name instead of a pseudonym, but now feel almost bound to start using a pseudonym instead because of all the confusion it causes going by JK, since KD (aka JK/GH) is so well known.
Maybe you could try changing your handles to “James Kirkpatrick (NOT Kevin Deanna)”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you defending this Mexican goblin freak on X last year?
Hey Calufrax,
No, you’re probably confusing me with Kevin DeAnna, who writes sometimes under the pseudonym (my real name), James Kirkpatrick.
(Although, I’m not aware of whether he’s defended this guy or not; just clearing up the name thing.)
Word of advice- I wouldn’t let him use your name anymore.
I’ve been involved with pro white politics for all of my adult life. I defended the Charlottesville people from the start, giving you a sense of the patience I can have for bad optics. Even I’m looking at this thinking I’m out if content like this is anywhere near the conversation. Imagine a normal person’s reaction.
“A normal person’s reaction” should factor heavily in our tactics (that is, if we genuinely care about persuading people).
Talking to them, as Fuentes and groypers are depicted in this article, should immediately exclude one from participating in a would-be serious organization advocating for white people. And if it is one’s own organization, it should mark that venture as a veritable landmine, to be avoided unequivocally (even if the guy happens to occasionally get something right).
Empathy is everything, if we hope to have trusting relationships and alliances. If I talked to someone like these types talk to people I would, without exaggeration, expect to be beaten to death.
Well said, as always. Someone (might have been you, even) recently wrote that for every person like this we allow in, we drive off a score of otherwise ideologically sympathetic people who you would actually want to associate with politically or personally.
Thank you, Corday. I think you may be referring to something that Kevin DeAnna (writing as J.K.) said; it sounds familiar. He’s a great writer/speaker, for sure!
Some of the rhetoric at Charlottesville was unfortunate. Certainly it was unfortunate that some had to defend themselves against Antifa. But at least no pedophilia cover ups happened like with Fuentes.
Charlottesville has bad public relations because of how it was depicted in the media. Fuentes, like Spencer, is a net benificiary of media coverage which increases his profile but doesn’t report on actually damaging allegations like the relentless pedophilia stuff.
Right. To be clear, it was not my intent draw any equivalency between the two. I only reference my reaction to Charlottesville to show that I’m typically not one to clutch pearls amidst controversy.
You mean the gay pedophile jew federal asset isn’t actually on the pro-White side? What a coincidence…
The anti Ha White Leftists of the last 1960s and early 70s had a saying “No Enemies on the Left” , we should have something similar when some America First, pro ha Wite activist is attacked, set up, blackmailed by Js, SPLC, system cuckservatives, the media – which seems to have happened here with Nick F.
We aren’t going to win anything with just straight, wholesome, never smoked an MJ, never had a beer before the age of 21, never kissed a girl, never looked at an R rated movie, Conservative Christian, Latter Day Saint/Sissy Donny Osmond, Mittens Romney types.
Yeah, the successful SA street army that contested then won the streets of 1930s Germany were led by Socialist, not economic Conservative, Christian Church folks – their SA leader and lots of the top SA were homosexuals. When Hitler and the NS won and were negotiating with Conservatives in Germany Industry (Krupp), the Prussian Conservative German. army, AH Grandad agree to take down, take out the real Socialists (Strasser Brothers) and the Socialist homosexual elites of the SA. That was done in the Night of the Long Knives.
I think was Nick F was saying in this video is that 15 and 16 year old males accusing Conservatives, Catholic Priests were often openly “Gay” men seeking out older Gays/homosexuals in the Catholic Priesthood. Not children being the victims of old pervert pedophiles .
The Js and just anti Ha Wite Nationalists in the USA have always used smears, gossip, wild exaggerations against sincere Ha Wite Nationalists. HAC did that to Hunter Wallace – my boss and to me. HAC wrote his last, worst NorthWest Independence Novel smearing Hunter Wallace as a Lisping Lindsey Graham homosexual Christian Zionist, Neo Conservative US President that tried to reverse the Ha White, North West Republic Ha White ethno state. HAC smeared me as supposedly getting a beautiful Ha White Russian Mail Order bride, living in an expensive Chicago Suburban mansion and just giving up on “the movement’ – total lies. It’s true that homosexuals have always been attractive to NAZI black leather, uniforms, buff White Aryans. Or the (Je*) homosexual real pedofile Frank Collin Chicago NAZI Party leader.
I’m request that CC and related blogs (Amren, OD, TPC radio show) try to refrain from gossip, smearing other Ha Wite activists etc. Everyone is accused of being “A Fed”, “Gay”, a “J” etc. It’s toxic and lots of younger, idealists who come in to our circles burn out and leave because it’s just a toxic, no fun, no $, no White chicks place to be.
JR
In this article, there is no gossip. These are sourced statements, references from reputable new outlets and records of criminal proceedings. Everything I say in the article can be independently verified with the sources.
“HAC wrote his last, worst NorthWest Independence Novel smearing Hunter Wallace as a Lisping Lindsey Graham homosexual Christian Zionist, Neo Conservative US President that tried to reverse the Ha White, North West Republic Ha White ethno state.”
LOL, he wrote the Hunter Wallace from Occidental Dissident as a lisping Zionist president? Did he use his real name? He must’ve been writing for a very niche audience to throw shade at such an inside baseball WN personality.
Yes, Covington did write that.
I understand what you’re saying; I really do. I also didn’t care for Covington’s divisiveness. (I interpret that as jealousy on his part, since the people he regularly trashed happened to be those who were getting the most done.) Still, we have to draw the line somewhere. I wish I could say otherwise, but it looks like they have some loose cannons on deck over there. When that ship sinks, we don’t want to be around it.
Ok, drawing the line somewhere makes sense but…
Also….
Don’t air dirty laundry.
And what very effective thing the most popular forms of (race denying, universalist, St. Paul …) Judeo Christianity has it that they ….
Forgive sinners – former Communists (Whitiker Chambers), porn stars with hundreds and thousands of the worst, disgusting sex acts caught on video…
All is forgiven if these sinners just “Confess their sins and accept Jeeeeeeeeeesus” (Now also worship all things Israel, Je*** .
On the other hand our side tends to try to condemn ha White activists for life and eternity for things like
Hanging out with some gay friends
Having Black friends.
I once (almost) got suspended and banned from Storefront for confessing that I liked a lot of Motown Music and Chicago Blues.
OH THE HORROR.
JR
With all due respect, having gay and black friends and enjoying black music(all of which I share with you) is a far fucking cry from posting photos of someone’s daughter or publicly wishing gang rape on someone’s infant.
I know a lot of these guys are just young extremely online types trying to be edgy and funny, but like Beau said a line needs to be drawn somewhere. We cannot afford a “no enemies on the right” approach that excuses some of this type of behavior. We accept people from many different backgrounds and beliefs with an open mind to different ideas but there should be a certain standard of decency.
Ok
sorry I didn t know those things you just presented .
I prefer the printed word with editors , film and video s with writers and directors instead of off the cuff , “ shock jock “ , wing it podcasts etc .
And what NF has been doing is mostly “ entertainment “ , “comedy “ , not really education , community building .
OK .
I ve said too much as it us
mea culpa
I certainly understand about not airing dirty laundry. I hold that spreading gossip is next to sabotage. The thing is, though, that they’re already making public statements which will be very badly received by normal people. Then the usual sort of slimy journalists can try to use that to tar us all with the same brush. “They’re all like this! See?” In this case, the most prudent thing to do will to be to distance ourselves from them while kicking up the least amount of dust as possible.
I agree that spreading malicious gossip is sabotage. And purity-spiraling is not beneficial.
But “dirty laundry” is best aired and debated with the adults in the room.
The WN movement has had far too many toxic radioisotopes swept under the rug and ignored for the nearly fifty years that I have been following. That’s not the best progress.
🙂
How about YOU start the clean up process by cleaning up your own grammar and syntax?
Write as a proud, educated white man, even if it takes a bit more effort.
And no, condemning this kind of trash (assuming Kessler and/or these links and sources are accurate; I start always with the assumption that any attacks on the character of prowhites are enemy disinformation) is not “divisive” or “doing the enemy’s work for him”. It is necessary housecleaning to ensure that the movement to prevent white extinction is not being betrayed maliciously, or misused selfishly (as it now seems to me Fuentes is doing: building himself up without regard for the longer term damage his antics are doing to the prowhite movement).
Covington was Frank “Collin” Cohen’s right hand man and if he couldn’t tell that Cohen was a jew and pedophile then he was either too stupid or a weirdo himself. I know that Dr. Pierce and the early NA guys never trusted Covington, believed him to be a fed and couldn’t stand the guy personally.
Fuentes could have been a major asset to the Movement but alas he’s a mongrelized pedophile and he couldn’t be saved from his own conflicted instincts.
Nick Fuentes was not “smeared.” He presents a perverse, twisted vision of the altright that goes nowhere that serious white advocates want to be. He factually surrounds himself with uber-creeps and pedophiles like Milo and Ali Alexander and the Gomez dude. My impression is that he’s got some sugar in him, and according to this article there is a a weird sort of celibacy vs. rape fantasy duality going on with him. All in all, very openly creepy stuff. When you add in the way that he favors universal Catholicism over particular ethnic nationalism, resulting in his very multi-racial following, it’s hard to see what he has to offer white advocacy other than empty clicks. It is only when one of his groypers rejects Fuentes’s messages and leadership that they become of value to white advocacy. Kessler has it exactly right when he says: “Better people need to stop lending their credibility to Fuentes, before he tarnishes them all.” After watching a steady parade of creepy alt-right embarrassments like Milo, Gavin McInnes, and Fuentes, it almost seems that tarnishing the movement (while lining their pockets) is the point of their online existence.
And I have to wonder what it is you’re advocating: defending Fuentes and joining white advocacy to socialism and homosexual Nazi fetishism? Your writing style is very similar to somebody else who posts on this site with bizarre ideas about communism being aligned with nationalism and such, and who uses “hu-white” instead of “Ha white.” And what’s with calling respected white advocacy sites that are scrupulous and scholarly “just a toxic, no fun, no $, no White chicks place to be”? Fortunately, readers on this site are highly intelligent and unlikely to buy whatever it is you’re selling.
“ hu wite” is how Anren s “ Up Town” Jared Taylor says “ White”
It s a fun insider thing like the “ OK” hand sign that was claimed was a secret society White supremacy sign
I like both
IMO Milo Y and Gavin McInnes had their moments – they were edgy , clever and yes ….
funny .
Milo was a cleaver Movie Reviewer for Breitbart News and had some yes courage for wading in to to dangerous enemy occupied suaves like U Cal Berkeley to give anti woke , speeches concerts .
like Pym Fortyn and Theo Van Gogh ( Dutch pol, Dutch artist ) they tried to package their anti Islam , pro White Western civilization positions , activism in being pro Gay, pro artistic freedom. – more White Liberal Left than Right .
it hasn t worked – both Pym Fortyn and Theo Van Gogh were murdered by Assassins calling them “ Racist /Nazis” , Fascists “ etc
Gavin McInnes and his “ Proud Boys “ also haven t lasted even though they ve been openly pro Gay and pro Israel .
JayeRyanOD: December 18, 2024 …HAC smeared me as supposedly getting a beautiful Ha White Russian Mail Order bride, living in an expensive Chicago Suburban mansion and just giving up on “the movement’ – total lies.
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What did you do about it, JR? Harold Covington did not defame you; he was just ridiculing you.
However, when the lying asshole wrote in his pissy, free newsletter that I was John Doe #2, deep-cover FBI Special Agent who had infiltrated the racial nationalist movement for 14 years and was Tim McVeigh’s handler, then mailed that l and other serious libels to third parties, knowing it was bullshit and that it was intended to harm me, he had finally stepped on his dick. I sued him for defamation and easily won a judgment where he ended up owing me $250,000.
He never informed fans of his forgettable fiction and other “movement” suckers that he eventually had to settle with me, nor that he’d declared bankruptcy to avoid execution of my judgment.
Take a deep dive into more about Harold “Big Lie” Covington here: Setting the Record Straight by Hadding Scott | National Vanguard Were you “Jack Ryan”at OD. If so, you may remember this soap opera there involving HAC in 2011:
Setting the Record Straight: The Genesis of Harold Covington’s Vendetta against Hunter Wallace and Robert Campbell
Or further back, 34 years ago, when Dr. Pierce felt it necessary to expose the SOB to National Alliance members in our monthly members BULLETIN after HAC had been contacting a few of them with malicious lies about Pierce, me and our Alliance: Dr. William Pierce on Harold Covington | National Vanguard A side by side photo of me is there, contrasted with the professional smear artist.
A birdy told me that Dr. Johnson, a former fan of HAC’s fiction, may actually be planning to write about “Big Lie” in a future piece. Greg had previously overlooked HAC’s documented evil treason against legitimate pro-White groups and leaders and his total lack of character.
But character counts.
Put ‘covington’ in C-C’s search feature and a dozen or so articles will come up, like this foolish piece by Michael O’Meara from 14 years ago: The Northwest Novels of H. A. Covington:
I’m not quite certain why this is. Covington’s Trilogy is infinitely more readable and convincing than William Pierce’s Turner Diaries (now one of our classics), but has probably sold only a fraction as many copies. Part of the problem with its reception might lie in the fact that Covington, a veteran of the NS movement, has made not a few enemies within “the racially conscious community,” evident in his numerous critical references to William Pierce, as well as to Matt Koehl, Ben Klassen, Tom Metzger, David Duke, Martin Webster, John Tyndall, and others.
Yes s all true
I try to separate the “ art” from the artist .
I like a few Roman Polanski movies ( Chinatown, Macbeth ) and yes I know who he us , what he did .
You’re a hobbyist, Jack, promoting the most notorious smear artist and political saboteur to ever style himself a leader of the White preservationist cause, while praising his third-rate scribblings. Get yourself a clown painting of John Wayne Gacy and separate him from his art.
JayeryanOD: December 19, 2024 Yes s all true I try to separate the “ art” from the artist .
I like a few Roman Polanski movies ( Chinatown, Macbeth ) and yes I know who he us , what he did .
Agree that Covington is not a very good writer. I have some of the books and wanted to like them but couldn’t. Tito Purdue on the other hand is a true writer. I have pierce’s books and think him well above cov. But I do think one can separate the artist from the art. To point might be Yeats’s lines, perhaps the subtext of which may have been a rejection of pound’s art:
Fuentes promotes rape, including raping kids. He literally asked his followers to vow to kill, rape, and die for him. He has promoted pedophilia, which is a form of rape, since children cannot consent to sex.
Fuentes vouched for Ali Alexander, knowing that he is a pedophile, and did nothing to warn his followers, including legions of underage followers, including some who reported being harrassed by Alexander.
Only idiots knowingly associate their political movement with people who advocate criminal behavior.
If someone threatens criminal activity in my presence, I will be the first one to call the cops.
I think there’s a world of difference between taking a hard line against people who advocate criminal behavior and being censorious about liking Kubrick movies or jazz.
Ok
I didn t know that – sounds far fetched . But if you say so G J.
maybe he was drunk and being egged on when he supposedly said that .
my experience in full time WN “ movement “ is all the “ leaders “ turn on each other . If any of us haven t been slandered by HAC and the SPLC then IMO we were/are doing something right .
I recommend not falling down in to doing the same , gossip etc ;
””Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
Marcus Aurelious
Greg Johnson: December 19, 2024 …Only idiots knowingly associate their political movement with people who advocate criminal behavior… I think there’s a world of difference between taking a hard line against people who advocate criminal behavior and being censorious about liking Kubrick movies or jazz.
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True. One of William Pierce’s favorite movies was A Clockwork Orange from the film genius Jew Kubrick. That didn’t preclude him from being our foremost truth-telling Jew-fighter and White racial leader.
My point is that continued promotion of Covington just because he was a talented wordsmith, despite his deliberate, malicious smearing for years of a good man like Ben Klassen, for example, as a homosexual Jew who raped then murdered skinhead boys, is much worse than promoting a fleeting punk like Fuentes for advocating criminal behavior, if that’s what he did. I recall the brilliant alt-right nut Fuentes claimed that when his crew took over all non-Christians would be eradicated.
Wasn’t it the “white supremacist” Fuentes who dined with Trump at Mar A Lago along with the nigger “anti-Semite,” what’s his name? What was the Trumpster thinking, associating his political movement with such people?
I’ll continue to hold the hard line against Harold Covington’s malicious treachery to our noble cause, no matter if some who claim to be on our side celebrate his alleged “art” while refusing to recognize the damage he wrought for decades.
You got the last laugh on Covington, Will. I wish he had used his skills as a storyteller to write novels not defame better man. He took care not to admit authorship of his history of the WN movement to me, but he recommended it nonetheless, in a furtive way, like he was offering me dope.
He admitted to me that my review of the first four Northwest Novels was the best thing that ever happened to his movement. But he pissed away the windfall with the fifth novel, which revealed too much of his method of smearing, as well as with trashy Podcaster drama featuring a porn harlot who lifted weights.
Mr Johnson – Sir.
You you include a link to your review of the first HAC NorthWest Independent Novels? I remember that it was a great review and I really like Covington’s “The Brigade” , the next two were also pretty good.
IMO “The Brigade” was better than “the Turner Diaries” because the characters were very interesting, well developed as were bad guy characters.
Thank you Sir.
I apologize for ruffling up some feathers, and for some typos, not using spell check etc.
Thank you for your very hard, excellent work on behalf of our people, culture.
One thing we can all do is to be a bit kinder to our own kind.
There is a reason it’s called “kindness”.
JR
Greg Johnson: December 20, 2024 You got the last laugh on Covington, Will. I wish he had used his skills as a storyteller to write novels not defame better man.
It’s a little late to be wishing that. Exposing Covington’s fraud against our noble cause over several decades is no laughing matter. Do I enjoy that last laugh when he is still being promoted as a legitimate leader on sites like C-C and TOO?
You can admit you and others were wrong to promote him and remove articles praising his scribblings so as not to continue confusing people. That’s your choice. You were not alone. Other legitimate publishers like George Dietz (Liberty Bell magazine) did the same by publishing his articles while ignoring the dirt.
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He took care not to admit authorship of his [Brief] history of the WN movement to me, but he recommended it nonetheless, in a furtive way, like he was offering me dope.
He used you to promote his phony “movement,” Greg. It’s not too late to admit that.
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He admitted to me that my review of the first four Nothwest Novels was the best thing that ever happened to his movement. But he pissed away the windfall with the fifth novel, which revealed too much of his method of smearing, as well as with trashy Podcaster drama featuring a porn harlot who lifted weights.
That woman, Corinna Burt, who went by Axis Salley, worked closely with Covington, yes, But she was more than a weightlifter who had worked in the sex industry. She admitted after leaving him, having processed his mail, that she had shared correspondence to his <cough!> movement with the FBI — arguably one of “the worst things that ever happened to his movement.”
Hadding Scott’s blog, “Setting the Record Straight” — Setting the Record Straight by Hadding Scott | National Vanguard — contained the following pieces, including one on his phony “Brief History” that he’d recommended to you “like dope.” Google Jews removed his blogspot because they could, but Hadding probably retained the content somewhere. There’s an instructive book you could write just from the following, entirely non-fiction.
Harold Covington calls for DEATH of Matt Koehl, David Duke, and William Pierce (1980)
Voice of Albion on Harold Covington and Combat 18
Noncounterproductivity in Sweden
Former collaborator W.H. Kendall Denounces Harold Covington as a “twisted megalomaniac” (1998)
More about Covington from W. H. Kendall
Former Collaborator Corinna Burt on how Covington uses donations
Don Black: Covington is “an accomplished and imaginative liar”
Martin Lindstedt calls Covington “a plague on the Movement” (2004)
Investigative Reporter Debunks the Alleged Covington-Hinckley Connection
Raine Butler: HAC is not a WN
April Gaede on Covington and his Followers
Carlos W. Porter on Nizkor and Harold Covington
Gordon Ipock’s Reminiscence of Harold Covington
John Tyndall on Harold Covington and Combat 18
The Case of Gerald Sprouse
Zundelgram about a Covington Lie
Forrest Covington refers to his Mentally Ill Brother
WAR’s circular on Harold Covington (late 1990s)
Martin Lindstedt on Harold Covington (2003)
Anatomy of a Hypocrite, by Ben Klassen
Covington’s vicious obituary of Ben Klassen
COTC’s Racial Loyalty newsletter
Covington’s “Brief History” from the 1990s, “The Old Order Passeth”
John de Nugent on why Northwest Secession is no longer viable
Some problems with Covington’s “Northwest Republic” idea
Why the “Northwest Republic” idea belongs to the 1980s
Covington’s use of altered photos
Sockpuppetry: former collaborator Corinna Burt says that Covington spends a lot of time on it.
Sockpuppetry: Bob Rudisill is Harold Covington
Sockpuppetry: Covington is caught using multiple identities on VNN Forum
Sockpuppetry: Matt Parrott on Harold Covington
Documents from Covington’s Abortive Civil Suit against Ben Klassen, Will Williams, and the Church of the Creator
Williams v. Covington: Key Documents
Williams v. Covington: Dr. William Pierce’s affidavit for the plaintiff
Williams v. Covington: Affidavits for the Plaintiff
Did Harold Covington serve in Vietnam?
“Yeah, the successful SA street army that contested then won the streets of 1930s Germany were led by Socialist, not economic Conservative, Christian Church folks – their SA leader and lots of the top SA were homosexuals. When Hitler and the NS won and were negotiating with Conservatives in Germany Industry (Krupp), the Prussian Conservative German. army, AH Grandad agree to take down, take out the real Socialists (Strasser Brothers) and the Socialist homosexual elites of the SA. That was done in the Night of the Long Knives.”
Ernst Röhm and friends were purged because they were organizing a coup and stockpiling weapons in order to depose and replace the Regular Army, which Hitler had refused to do (and for good reason).
SA Stabschef Röhm was absolutely not purged because he was an associate of the lighter-in-the-jackboots bandoliers ─ although when this was revealed publicly, the SS didn’t mind a bit since they replaced the SA as the Party milita, and because these practices were not only illegal but not acceptable to the German people at the time.
President Hindenburg authorized the Röhm purge as soon as the matter was clear, which Chancellor Hitler and the police carried out ─ and it was a lot less bloodthirsty than putting down Röhm’s coup would have been.
There was some other dirty laundry that was washed as well, but comparatively minor and a little off-topic. (No need to boost my word count.)
Also, it is not true that the SA loyalists were marginalized as a result.
There is a good book by Bruce Campbell (LINK) called The SA Generals and the Rise of Nazism (c. 1998).
Here Campbell closely examines the personnel files and careers of ALL of the 178 SA generals and shows that they remained the hardcore Party elite until the end of the war.
Hitler’s view was that the Regular Army and the Prussian Junker caste itself had always served the German nation well in the past and that the technical competence of the General Staff was unmatched anywhere in the world and completely irreplaceable, at least in his lifetime.
The relationships of Hitler and the Nazis or the SS to the Regular Army is fairly well captured by David Irving in Hitler’s War (1977). Stalin would have had anyone shot if they so much as smoked French cigarettes suspiciously, but Hitler respected his generals and their competence and rarely took actions against them for disagreements short of outright disloyalty.
For example, Hitler cashiered Generaloberst Ludwig Beck ─ the Chief of the German General Staff ─ long before the war, and Beck’s telephone conversations were secretly monitored by Göring’s Forschungsamt during the war.
Gen. Beck was careful in his retirement, however, and never warranted arrest until after the failed July 1944 assassination plot.
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Thank you Scott
that was a good NS German history lesson .
agreed and well said .
i ll just add that Hitler , Hindenburg , the Conservative Prussian regular German army , Krupp Steel Conservative business owners coo recent feared SA Rohm, Strasser Brothers were planning a Socialist Nationalist coup, take over of Germany .
IMO that s better than a Jewish Bolshevik Communist coup , reign of terror which is what happened in my Grandfather s Russia , or The ( thankfully ) short lived Je& Communist refine reign if terror in Bavaria 1919 led by the Je& Communist Kurt Eisner .
I also note that Conservatives, Reactionaries were simply not competitive with the Communists in electoral politics , while the Socialist National Socialists were the largest , most popular political party in 1933.
economic Conservatism , anything goes Capitalism , Libertarianism never sells to regular White people , workers , elderly on pensions etc.
Bit OT, I dunno. Something I noticed about Fuentes is he’s hypermobile. He can bend his fingers back and his shoulder in uncanny ways.
What does this mean ? I don’t know, maybe nothing, there seems to be some articles suggesting a link between hypermobility and autism spectrum disorders and other things.
Yes! Yes! His fingers are like the Nosferatu’s, excellent point! They mesmerize. It’s a major key of his appeal.
In a popular episode of the “Kino Casino” show a few years ago, former Fuentes associates Jaden and Simon revealed that Fuentes, despite claiming to be a true-believing Catholic, doesn’t actually attend mass and privately scoffs at the idea of praying. If Fuentes will lie about his supposed faith, he’ll lie about anything. He’s a fraud, and he seems to be able to lie shamelessly, confidently and without flinching. It’s a real talent.
Why would Fuentes make jokes about such awful things as those mentioned in the above article? One reason might be that it gives him a way to explain why he’s not romantically interested in women. “Oh, you mean that 25 year old blonde model? Ew! I would never go for a woman that old.” He will always say he’s waiting to find his teenage bride, which is similar to things his associate Jon Miller says about women. And, by the way, all it takes is watching a few seconds of video of Miller to know that Miller will never be accused of being a lady’s man, if you get what I mean. Fuentes and Miller are very similar in the way they talk about women. And it’s telling that Fuentes seems to feel more comfortable around people like Miller and the alleged groomer Ali Alexander than he is around married men.
Also, in the previously mentioned “Kino Casino” episode, I believe that Fuentes’ former associates also claimed that there was a group of AF homosexual insiders referred to as the “sussy squad” who were known to be particularly vicious while acting as Nick’s enforcers. Apparently they held personal information about the college interns and others who volunteered to help Nick’s AF group. And apparently they were prepared to use the info as blackmail in order to keep the interns in line if they ever dared to become “disloyal” to Nick. It all sounds ridiculous and bonkers, but I actually believe it, given all the other things that have come out about Nick and how he treats his own supporters and allies.
My honest impression of Fuentes is that, while talented, he has a large ego and is easily manipulated by those who know how to flatter him.
The ‘catboi’ incident should have been a wake up call – exceptionally narcissistic people will sometimes toy with bisexuality as a way to garner attention from both sexes. Fuentes was fine with mock flirting with his gay friend because the attention he recieved was worth it. I don’t think that Fuentes is genuinely gay, I think he just likes being flattered.
I know that the term narcissist is thrown around a lot these days, but understanding the psychology behind these things matters.
You are absolutely correct: extreme narcissism sometimes presents as homosexuality or bisexuality because of a hunger for attention.
I’m Nick F ‘s defense – he s alleged with video supporter that an apparent Antifa cane to his home to kill him
And the Susie t apparently went on a killing spree
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2517131/white-supremacist-nick-fuentes-claims-assassination-attempt-at-home-suspect-killed-by-police
Please don t post unsubstantiated gossip about Nick F or anyone rise here
this violates OD comment guidelines
Jaye Ryan: December 20, 2024 Please don t post unsubstantiated gossip about Nick F or anyone rise here this violates OD comment guidelines
Who cares about OD guidelines?
Mêa culpa
i was multi tasking – thought I was posting a comment to the OD – Occidental Dissent comments instead of here on the CC comments .
the OD comment guidelines are very good and practical
sensible things such as
No advocating violence , no hobby horse ( please reference the post , no personal flame wars to living or dead people – yes HAC was the worst at spreading lies , gossip , ad hominem attacks holding life long grudges – others including TM have also done this .
WW and others we have real flesh and blood living enemies and traitors to fight , punish now . If you want to go piss on some dead person s grave like HAC – go personally do it . I m up for sacred personal piss on traitor’s graves such as:
Bomber Harris
LBJ
Ted Kennedy
mat least 2 generations of Bush ( Prescott , George HW) Bush
and go down the list of Instauration Magazine , Amren Ha Wite traitors of the year that are now dead – &$@! Ha wire traitors such as George Will, Jack Kemp, Dick Lugar…. Ted Turner is apparently still alive , the walking dead. Sleeping with Hanoi Jane Fonda will do that to a ha wire guy .
I appreciate this expose. I know nothing about Fuentes other than his name, and that he was fairly young. I have no interest in being lectured to by anyone under 30, at a minimum, at least if racial politics is the topic. People under 30, however talented, just haven’t had the time or the experience to have become real experts in our subject. Accordingly, I’ve never listened to or read anything by Fuentes, and now I never will.
“Too many cooks spoil the broth.” The prowhite movement needs to be bigger than just one or a handful of leaders or publications. But it can’t be too large, otherwise it risks both fragmentation and thus impotence, or being delegitimated in the eyes of those we wish to convert to white preservationism via association with morally marginal types.
Counter-Currents, American Renaissance, The Occidental Observer, National Alliance / Vanguard, maybe Occidental Dissent and some Asatru group – what more is needed? Anyone serious in his prowhite commitment can find his place within this constellation.
Didn’t Lenin say something about the dangers (to the Bolsheviks) of both “rightwing deviationism” and “leftwing sectarianism”? The prowhite “adults in the room” need to be vigilant about policing the borders of our movement, and rigorously condemning those who stray beyond them.
The only reason this depraved goblin is popular is because he is a sort of avatar for psychotic, mentally diseased Zoomers whose minds and souls have been thoroughly rotted out and utterly corrupted by 4Chan culture. They worship him because they see him as a justification of their own soulless, sociopathic, inhuman nature. They are really worshipping themselves.
It helps greatly to understand why Fuentes is such a fan of Putin, Stalin and the Red army. Maniacs and moral degenerates have some inherent ability of smelling each other from afar. All kinds of Scott Ritters see in Putin their ultimate ideal.
Jared Taylor needs to be more careful in choosing his company. It is not the first time he allows dirty men to creep so close to him.
Back in 2015 when Taylor visited Russia a well-known maniac and certified war criminal Aleksey Milchakov was able to take a photo with Taylor, thereby, alienating a substantial part of his followers from Eastern Europe. My Ukrainian acquaintances send me this photo each time when Jared Taylor is mentioned. And each time I try to explain it on the grounds that Taylor simply didn’t know who this guy is.
The more popular racial worldview becomes the more trash will float around. We need to put effective barrier to it.
Apparently, according to Fuentes himself, Fuentes’ love for Putin was just trolling. Up to you if you believe him. This is another reason why I can’t stand the guy. Nothing he says is sincere. Like so many of his generation, he is deathly afraid of sincerity. Sincerity is cringe. Actually caring about or believing in things is cringe. And every time he puts his foot in his mouth, he and/or his cult members are there to say “it’s just a joke bro!”
You know, if everything is just a joke for them, if it’s all just entertainment, maybe we should treat them with the lack of respect and seriousness they deserve?
All of you out there on the Dissident Right who constantly wailed about “infighting”, “punching right” and “no enemies on the right” bear responsibility for this. Hope you are proud of yourselves. I will not support or side with evil psychopaths even if they are on “the Right”.
One of the great ironies is that Fuentes has always been an advocate of optics and gatekeeping. He was never one of those “no enemies on the right” types. It’s never been clear to me what he means by optics though because he typically advocates edgy Republican stuff rather than WN, but presents it in the most caustic way possible.
Kino Casino is great. Ashton and Andy are a moral disinfectant that the DR sorely needs. With cutting wit and savage humor, they humiliate and destroy all the psychopaths, freaks, lunatics and sociopaths that pollute this sphere. Everyone in this movement needs to listen to them.
I don’t know who this young man is, but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t fool me. His skin tone is kind of too..southern..for me… You Americans have been living among mixed-race people so long you’ve lost that basic instinct. It is natural that a movement that is being so harshly ostracized and at the same time gaining popularity attracts various negative characters. The worst are these narcissists and various amoral psychopaths. In fact, sexual vulgarity is a very good indicator that the person is a scumbag and cannot be trusted. You always have to ask: Is this man a decent guy you’d trust with your money? Would you want this man to be your colleague or supervisor at work? Would you go on a nature hike with him in your spare time? If the answers are negative, does such a guy have any business in our movement?
Worse. It wasn’t just sexual vulgarity. It was spewing every sort of obscene filth while chanting “Christ is King” and waving rosary beads and crucifixes around. Meanwhile calling everyone else “degenerates”!!! These people are sick and vile beyond comprehension. And soooo many on the Dissident Right defended and supported them.
He’s posting stupid garbage and making you look bad. I don’t know why you would let someone else use your name and post without your permission.
Sorry, that last one was for James Kirkpatrick.
Calufrax, I don’t have any control over that. I’m not sure who Kevin Deanna’s pseodonym’s namesake is (presumably a historical figure), but he didn’t choose that name because of me.
I appreciate your concern, but people can share names without permission.
Let’s All Drink to the Death of a Clown: December 20, 2024 Covington was Frank “Collin” Cohen’s right hand man and if he couldn’t tell that Cohen was a jew and pedophile then he was either too stupid or a weirdo himself.
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Covingtton was not a Jew, but was certainly weird. WikiJews tell us about Collin, actually Cohn, here: Frank Collin – Wikipedia They tell of how HAC claimed to have discovered his boss was a Jew child molester, turned him over to law enforcement and took over Cohn’s phony “Hollywood Nazi” outfit, moving it from Chicago to my hometown, Raleigh, NC, where it soon went under. I was unaware of all that sordid history at the time, but met him in 1986 after he’d moved back to Raleigh in an attempt to pick up the pieces of the White Patriot Party that had been banned by DOJ that year. I’d responded to a phony classified ad he’d put in Willis Carto’s Spotlight tabloid with a Raleigh address. Long story, but I know his entire sorry history.
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I know that Dr. Pierce and the early NA guys never trusted Covington, believed him to be a fed and couldn’t stand the guy personally.
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It was much more than “not trusting” the SOB, and it wasn’t a “personal” thing. Covington was a treacherous enemy of our cause who had to be exposed and neutralized, whether he had worked for JOG or not.
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Fuentes could have been a major asset to the Movement but alas he’s a mongrelized pedophile and he couldn’t be saved from his own conflicted instincts.
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No, allegedly “talented” Fuentes is of no value whatsoever and has been a detrimental to serious pro-White politics. My old friend Gordon Ipock who eventually introduced me physically to Pierce in ’91, and who I’d introduced to Covington in ’87, can be trusted implicitly in this account that was posted to Hadding’s blog:
Gordon Ipock’s Reminiscence of Harold Covington
Gordon Ipock posted this on VNN Forum on 3 February 2005 under the username EdbergEdberg.
Harold is bad news, to be shunned…
I first met Harold Covington back in about 1987, after he had returned to North Carolina from Ireland. His purpose was to pick up the pieces of Glenn Miller’s White Patriot Party. He always saw Glenn as an enlisted man and himself as officer material, and he genuinely disliked Glenn because Glenn had succeeded brilliantly in the White Movement where he had failed repeatedly. He was motivated by pure jealousy.
It didn’t take me long to see that Harold’s attempt at forming a neo-Confederate Nazi group was highly suspect. He had a way of wording his agenda so that followers were admitted enemies of the government… open rebels, much like the original Confederates were. It was bold stuff, but stupid as hell, unless his purpose was to set people up. I pointed this out to the followers he had attracted, and they quickly began to see what Harold was doing. You’ve got to understand, these guys and myself had just seen the Feds and Jews trash the WPP, which was a legal organization. Harold was building something illegal from the get-go.
In the years since I have seen Harold repeatedly attack anyone who was doing good things for our race. He spent several years attacking Ben Klassen when his COTC was white hot in the early 90s. Then during the mid-90s when the National Alliance began to make impressive strides he aimed his venom at Dr. Pierce. And the common element in both these groups was Will Williams. Will played a major role in the growth and success of both the COTC and the NA during the 90s. And for this hard work and success, Will also drew the venom of Harold Covington.
I’ve watched Harold at work on internet usenet groups and stuff since the mid-90s when he first became internet savvy. One thing always struck me: Harold always aimed his crticisms and lies at whomever was doing the most for our movement and race at any particular time. The only conclusion that I could reach was that Harold was working for the other side.
Harold is a very intelligent guy, and a talented writer. Perhaps he started out as a genuine pro-white activist… or perhaps he was working for the enemy from day one. I don’t know where the truth is in this. But after watching him closely for several years, I could only conclude that if he wasn’t on the payroll of the ADL or SPLC or the FBI, he damned sure should have been. Again, he spent most of the 1990s harshly criticizing Dr. William Pierce and the NA. And at the time, Pierce was like God and the NA was like his saints. I also had the pleasure of meeting Ben Klassen personally and he struck me as a man of high intelligence and good breeding, cultured and courteous, a real gentleman. This was while Covington was calling him “Benny Buttf-ck”.
If I read in the news that someone had put a bullet in Covington’s head, I would be deleriously happy. If anyone deserves a bullet in the brain, it’s Harold Covington. Of all the skunks and low-lifes, creeps and double agents in our Movement, I can think of nobody as bad as Harold Covington. If he dies before I do and is buried in North Carolina, I will make an effort to go piss on the guy’s grave. The man has done immense damage to our Cause. He deserves a reputation that befits his deeds.
””Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
Marcus Aurelious
Harold Covington is now dead , so is Tom Metzger ( TM slandered David Duke as a coçaine addict out of pure jealousy that DD was having amazing mainstream political success in the early ‘90s). David Duke is now sadly old and apparently terminally sick .
the Old Guard has left . Please do not defame our dead .
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””Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
Marcus Aurelious
I request a moratorium on slander , gossip . I m starting by apologizing to Nick Fuentes , who barely survived a real assassination attempt by an Antifa #£#% who did murder some real people and killed some real dogs this week.
That s pretty good evidence that Nick was sincere and making the right enemies .
mea Culpa , I m sorry Nick and his supporters
J Ryan
Occidental Dissent
TPC radio show
Nick called for people who disagreed with him or didn’t donate to him to be shot. We will await your apology to all of the doxing victims from Nick and his supporters. https://x.com/martinez_clips/status/1870556092658487309
Angelo Plume: December 22, 2024 Nick called for people who disagreed with him or didn’t donate to him to be shot.
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Thanks for that, Angelo. Forget Nick, the upstart loser, and his supporters. JR talks out of his ass and deserves ostracism by serious Whites.
I’ll speak for the National Alliance and can speak for those JR calls the “Old Guard,” including Metzger and Duke, despite their personal differences back in the 1980s, because I’ve known and interacted with them.
I can speak honestly about Harold Covington — no gossip, no slander, just much-needed facts and truth.
Nick Fuentes narrowly escaped being murdered this week by a real live, anti ha White terrorist that apparently did murder (I think his victims were White) a couple of people in Southern Illinois then brutally killed some of Nick’s neighbor’s dogs.
This is rather strong evidence that Antifa targeted Nick F for speaking up for our Ha Wite people and for speaking against ZOG, the worst anti White Antifa, J feminists (all the leading feminists in the 20th century from Rosa Luxembourg to Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem were Je*ess. Even Philo Semite Winston Churchill noticed this about Je*ess anarchist, communists).
So did Nick Fuentes once say something stupid, something off the cuff? Sure, when you do these podcasts that are tailored after the shock jocks of the 1990s, this happens.
Of course Nick Fuentes or any of his vented supporters haven’t homo raped any children, nor do they advocate doing that.
And yes, IMO Harold Covington was THE worst movement gossiper, liar, slanderer I and my editor Hunter Wallace should know. HAC slandered us.
So, the obvious thing to do is to start going forward – don’t gossip, slander, try to get high by cutting some other pro White person down. Stop spreading the enemy’s – Cass Sunstein (Yes, I was personally smeared, doxed by Case Sustain) lies, gossip or in Nick F’s case Wild exaggerations of something NF said on a podcast that was misinterpreted.
Here’s NF standing up bravely to an enemy “reporter” and trying to get some police protection from Berwyn police after some Antifa terrorist came to Nick’s door to try to murder him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLmz7E6Zj8E
Again, I post the Great Roman Emperor philosopher Marcus Aurelius who speaks to us here today:
””Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”
Marcus Aurelious
I found the groyper imagery and memes in the above article very disturbing, even hours after I first read the article. Repeated exposure, especially by young White men seeking an identity in an anti-White world, would certainly create a very grim and debased (and debasing) worldview. Even so, I appreciate the information about Fuentes and his followers, as I always want to know the truth. Almost as disturbing, is a usually stalwart commenter in the thread above who seems to have been typing while inebriated. Not an uplifting reading experience.
Thank you, Jason Kessler, for being an expert chronicler of political reality and a courageous truth-teller. Special thanks, also, to Will Williams for his impressive, encyclopedic knowledge and his relentless quest for the truth, and for real solutions for the White race.
I strongly recommend C C writers, readers and commenters view this recent YT commentary video by Anthony Cumia the vary successful Shock Jock from New Jersey, New York City that was canceled by cancel culture on AM radio, Satellite Radio. He’s doing well now on his own on podcasts. Anthony Cumia spoke as the last Amren Conference and has always spoken honestly about the bad behavior of Blacks and has discussed the JQ in a fair way, as he does here.
IMO Nick Fuentes comes off very very well and is in the right from our perspective as he was “Doxed” by the worst typical Antifa, feminist Leftists and he actually survived an assassination attempt by a murderer who died a few blocks away , killed by Berwyn police!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48qw-06YhPA
I think Counter Currents Publisher and various writers should review this new information and consider apologizing to Nick F and supporting him – as he has all the right enemies who tried to murder him same as President Trump came within a few inches of being murdered.
Jaye Ryan
TPC radio show
Occidental Dissent Blog
Fuentes is still scum, even though it was wrong to dox him or for a killer to show up on his doorstep.
JayeryanOD, to me: December 21, 2024 ”Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.”… Marcus Aurelious [sic] …the Old Guard has left . Please do not defame our dead .
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Exposing Harold Covington to my kinsmen for the POS he was is not defamation, idiot.
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Hyacinth Bouquet: December 24, 2024 ...Special thanks, also, to Will Williams for his impressive, encyclopedic knowledge and his relentless quest for the truth, and for real solutions for the White race.
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Thank you, Hyacinth. I appreciate that. Telling truths, no matter how inconvenient or who they offend, is what we should be doing.
I try to remember the important things from our leaders I’ve met along the way during the past 40 years and reject those things that did not pass my “smell test.” Doing that has given me the so-called encyclopedic knowledge you imagine.
I met Sam Dickson 37 or 38 years ago. He was assisting David Duke when some motel venue cancelled our reservation for a gathering due to pressure from Jews. What he has to say about our cause in the recent interview here on C-C is wise and impressive. I noted this paragraph for truth:
Our situation in fact is vastly better now than it was when I first caught on and got involved in our people’s cause back in the 1960s. We have won the battle in the realm of science. The facts of race, heredity and genetics are now firmly established. Our enemies have been crushed in the laboratories. This isn’t spoken of publicly, of course, but it is a fact. Scientific truth is very powerful. Those who sat at the head table of their time [the Churchmen] could threaten to burn Galileo at the stake and could force him to recant and give lip service to their official position that the sun went around the earth but eventually science and truth prevailed. The same is true today in the fields of race and genetics.
Sam could be referring to the work of Dr, William Pierce, who he knew. Pierce looked at our cause and at Nature’s laws as a scientist when he founded Cosmotheism.
Sam mentions Wilmot Robertson as a towering man, the greatest of all movement figures he has known. I worked with Wilmot between my tours working with Ben Klassen and William Pierce and at the time considered those three men our own “Learned Elders,” if you can excuse the term.
30 years ago I arranged a meeting and was fortunate to sit between Pierce and Robertson on a couch at Robertson’s house for seven hours as they discussed our cause. My recollection is that Robertson was asking most of the questions and Pierce was providing the answers as the foremost, intellectually honest racial thinker he was at the time. I was soaking it all in.
JayeRyanOD, the know-it-all hobbyist, defender of the punk Fuentes, who comments through his ass here on C-C, should stick to OD, whatever it is they do there. Not only does he consider Metzger and Duke the “Old Guard,” he would consider Sam Dickson, Ben Klassen, Wilmot Robertson and William Pierce — men upon whose shoulders we stand — Old Guardists. He would even consider Galileo and Marcus Aurelius has-beens.
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Greg Johnson: December 25, 2024 Fuentes is st.ill scum..
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Seek truth. A successful movement cannot be built with scum or with defenders of scum.
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