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The latest Homeland Institute poll corroborated mainstream polls showing that support for mass deportations of illegal immigrants is widespread. But support for legal immigration is still disturbingly high, even among young Republicans. Pundits and podcasters lampoon the centrist stance that illegal immigrants are bad but legal immigrants are great as a “boomer meme,” but almost 70% of white Republican voters aged 18-29 agreed with the statement that “Undocumented immigrants are a net negative, but legal immigrants are a net positive.” This was almost the same for Republicans as a whole. Additionally, far fewer young Republicans disagreed with the statement on the grounds that legal immigrants are a net negative, too.
This is puzzling, because the American youth are significantly more opposed to Zionism and sexual degeneracy. For example, a previous Homeland Institute poll apparently replicated findings that Jonathan Greenblatt had alluded to in a leaked audio recording in which he had remarked that declining support for Israel was a generational issue. And while support for LGBTQ degeneracy was previously high among the youth, they are now driving a large decline in national support.[1] Meanwhile, over in Europe, support for deporting migrants is surging, especially among the youth.
This is troubling, because legal immigrants are more deleterious since they can vote and access public welfare programs. So why are so many Americans, including even American youth, soft on legal immigration?
The first reason is probably sensitivity about being perceived as racist, especially by themselves. Differentiating between legal and illegal seemingly allows them to have their cake of a “nice white country” and eat it too without being racist. But this is delusional. The biological reality of race and the cultural implications which flow from it do not change based on labels.
Second, American culture is extremely focused on money, especially among Republicans. The Homeland Institute poll found that Republicans were strongly opposed to pro-immigration policies that would cost money, such as stipends and free housing. But despite all the mainstream conservative talk about the Constitution and principles, there was significantly less Republican opposition to hate-speech laws to make immigrants more welcome. Opposition to paying immigrants to repatriate themselves was likewise slightly higher among Republicans than Independents and Democrats, albeit probably for different reasons. Conservatives really only care about conserving their money. The establishment knows this, too, and easily manipulates Republicans by appealing to their greed.
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Third, American culture is overly legalistic. America inherited a strong legal tradition from England that grew out of Anglo-Saxon common law. Legalism can be a strength in that it can help build a society possessing high efficiency and low corruption. But there can be too much of a good thing. By the time the Constitution was written, English legalism had already passed into decadence. Too much legalism leads to putting the method of the law above the goal of the public good, and valuing form over substance.
Fourth, there is a possibility that Americans, especially young Americans, are coming to accept multiculturalism as the “new normal.” For example, the diversity in the Top Gun sequel wasn’t artificial as in a lot of the diversity in entertainment and advertising. It was an accurate depiction of the United States military in the current year. In Europe, multiculturalism is still relatively new, while America has been undergoing a slow boil ever since the 1965 Hart-Celler Act, and much earlier in certain areas in terms of blacks. There is also a rising trend in America of whites assimilating into non-white culture more than vice versa.
How do we conquer these problems?
The quickest and easiest way is to debunk the lie that legal immigrants, who since the 1965 Hart-Celler Act are almost exclusively from the non-white world, are good for the economy. As explained by Ann Coulter in her aptly-named book ¡Adios, America!,, immigrants are an economic drain on society because they use social services and commit more crime than white Americans. Legal immigrants can more easily access public welfare and free or government-subsidized health insurance. Moreover, besides the direct economic damage that criminal immigrants cause, their legal proceedings are also costly for the US taxpayer. This is not to mention the fact that many immigrants send money back to their homelands rather than investing it in the US economy.
Additionally, an abundance of cheap labor has probably retarded the development of robotics and advanced computing for farm labor. This technology would likely have had other applications as well, just as the tech developed by NASA and the military oftentimes has civilian applications. Those who praise the free market fail to explain why economic incentives magically stop working whenever immigration is involved.
It is pathetic that Republicans are so fixated on money rather than identity and honor. This has opened them up to manipulation by cunning politicians who know that they will lap up almost any lie about legal immigrants being good for the economy, since they will want to believe it is true due to their greed.
But appealing to the Republicans’ base economic interests is a game we also can play. By showing with hard data that legal immigrants are a net economic negative, we can turn what has been the most effective argument for immigration into an argument against it. Whatever big business saves on cheap legal immigrant labor is clearly more than offset by their costs to the rest of society. Collecting hard data to prove this may be difficult, because it is not in the regime’s interest to make it easy to find, but it is not impossible. For example, it is known that 70% of the foreign-born population in Spain does not pay into the system.
Winning the economic argument is a good way to address the problem, but it is not enough by itself. The Homeland Institute poll also found that the Left has higher emotional investment in immigration. When a faction with high moral and emotional intensity collides with a faction that just wants to be left alone to enjoy their money, the more intense faction will win, all other factors being equal. This means we should also appeal to pathos.
We can do this by showing the general public that non-whites, including legal immigrants, disproportionately commit violent crimes. While most crime is intra-racial, whites are disproportionately the victims in inter-racial crime. Examples of this are numerous and well documented.
Reporting upon such matters can be depressing. But it is an essential task, because while we are overly acquainted with racial violence, the general public is still in the process of waking up to that fact, although recent years have seen major gains.
Using economic and emotional arguments is not contradictory. Immigration advocates frequently employ both types of arguments, and so should we. This is because different people respond to different arguments. The ears of staunch economic Republicans will prick up when we talk about money, and the hearts of soccer moms who are Independent voters will respond when we talk about the human costs of immigrant crime.
This flows into the fact that, in the long term, we must continue to fight the difficult fight of normalizing white identity politics and showing that it is inevitable, necessary, and moral. One of many ways we can do this is by showing that every other racial group acts in their self-interest, and that since non-whites will never relinquish their identity politics given that it goes against their interests, then we have no reasonable option other than to develop an identity politics of our own. The civic nationalist alternative of begging non-whites to abandon identity politics has proven ineffective, and is perhaps even counter-productive, because it makes whites look weak. Most people respect strength.
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A major hurdle to the normalization of white identity politics is the fact that white people are highly sensitive when it comes to morality, and they have been indoctrinated into believing that racism is the ultimate sin. Swallowing our pride and welcoming friendly non-whites who advance white identity politics could be a useful tactic. The number of non-whites who are becoming interested in white identity politics on social media and elsewhere should be celebrated as a victory and a sign that we are going mainstream. Per the Diffusion of Innovations theory, we seem to be finally breaking out of the “innovators” phase to the “early adopters” phase of normalizing white identity politics.
Despite the obvious racial undertones, 53% of US Hispanic voters now support mass deportations of all illegal immigrants, and 42% support building a border wall.[2] This is important because the slippery slope is not a logical fallacy; it is a highly effective tactic. We can use this tactic, too. Normalizing mass deportations of illegal immigrants can serve as a first step toward normalizing repatriation and reducing legal immigration.
Another tactic is to dispel the false equivalency between modern-day immigrants and traditional American immigrants. Previous waves of immigrants were almost exclusively white. They are also better described as conquerors, settlers, and pioneers, because they built the country from scratch at a time when social safety nets were thin or non-existent. In fact, life in early America was so tough that many immigrants returned to Europe. To compare our ancestors to entitled waves of third-worlders who have been stirred up by non-governmental organizations is insulting.
Legalism is a tougher nut to crack, because like anti-racism, it is well ingrained in the culture — but unlike anti-racism, it is an ancient phenomenon. The problem is further compounded by the fact that fighting hyper-legalism is an intellectual task, and yet most people are not intellectually inclined and have an emotional attachment to legalism. The masses may have to learn Carl Schmitt’s differentiation between politics and policy and the friend-enemy distinction through lived experience rather than from us, but we can certainly educate rogue elites and the smarter segments of society about them. At some point, legalism will burn out of its own accord as society becomes more tribal, the legal system continues to delegitimize itself, and the false correlation between the US Constitution and success comes to an end.
The fact that the Homeland Institute poll found that only 7.2% of all white registered voters, 12.8% of Republicans, and 8.9% of young Republicans understand that legal immigrants are a net negative may seem like bad news. But it is actually a solid foundation on which to build. In terms of the Diffusion of Innovations theory, we are already out of the isolated innovators stage and are breaking into the early adopters phase. We might still be a small minority, but if we remain passionate, our ideas will inevitably break into the mainstream.
Notes
[1] Susan Miller, “The young are regarded as the most tolerant generation. That’s why results of this LGBTQ survey are ‘alarming’,” USA Today, June 24, 2019. See also Figure 15 in “Views on LGBTQ Rights in All 50 States: Findings from PRRI’s 2023 American Values Atlas,” PRRI, March 12, 2024.
[2] Khaleda Rahman, “Majority of Hispanics Now Favor Mass Deportation,” Newsweek, June 17, 2024. See also Russell Contreras, “Exclusive poll: Latino support for border wall, deportations jumps,” Axios, April 11, 2024.
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Legal immigration is perhaps more damaging than illegal immigration. The least talked about but probably the most dangerous “newcomers “ are Indians. They’re not considered dangerous because they are not a violent threat. You mention in your piece that whites have a sense of morality. Indians have none! Word is out on them if you’re a contractor of any kind. Do not do business with them. You will get stiffed. Thinking of going to an Indian restaurant??? DON’T. I’ve witnessed some stomach churning things inside them with almost no exceptions. How the curry shops in England stay open is a mystery to me. I’ve been dealing with them for years. My first rule is- the first sentence out of their mouths is a giant crock of shit.
I just want to drop in to wish you guys a happy Juneteenth and a merry mlk day!
Fred: I have to admit the Indians bother me They are a kind of stealth conquerer. Although I like many, I’m also wary of them, and you have to remember they go by your class: if you’re an upper class America, fine, but if you’re lower class, they treat you (openly) like dirt, and they will bring a truckful of relatives anytime they get their foot in the door. Look at Nikki Haley. She seems like a perfect sleeper agent. With her and Vivek, they seem ready to do to our political structure what they’ve done to the motel industry.
That being said, I do like Indian cuisine. Read my A Christmas Curry (CC, 25 December, 2023) for a semi-memoir of Indian restaurants.
I’ll still take lamb vindaloo over sushi anyway.
Just a heads up because I deal with restaurants that they own. Their idea of cleanliness and sanitary practices is far from ours. Health inspectors can’t be there all the time. I have seen some absolutely appalling conditions including rats in the ceiling. Some are better than others, but why take a chance?
How do you have “rats in the ceiling?” How do the other types of ethnic restaurants rank?
Rats can get anywhere. At this particular location I noticed rat traps on the floor. The owner wanted me to do a job that required going just above the drop ceiling. Out of curiosity I took a broomstick and poked open one of the ceiling tiles. Rat feces poured out. It took the Indian a few months to clean but as far as I know he’s still in business.
An unavoidable truth. No Bradford takeaway has a hygiene rating above 3.
Bradford? Are you friends with a Dominique B.?
No, I haven’t had any friends in a while. I’m terrible at forming friendships and maintaining them. Although I am working on that. I have also moved on from Bradford, thankfully.
I find it outrageous that class should matter more than race. I would rather be friends with the poorest White man than the wealthiest non-White guy. Even if you do drugs, drink too much, and have a criminal record, the first thing I look at is kinship. When I looked at guys like Harvey Weinstein or Bob Eiger, I never cared that they were wealthy, even before I became White positive.
Indian food has a lot of vegan options, but vegan sushi is also great. Sushi is much lighter, but it can’t be made at home unless you practice a lot. I never give money to Indian restaurants.
“A major hurdle to the normalization of white identity politics is the fact that white people are highly sensitive when it comes to morality, and they have been indoctrinated into believing that racism is the ultimate sin.”
Many Whites are too easily indoctrinated and are prone to believe in anything any authority figure tells them because they are too soft and too nice, and nice people finish last. People who are soft in a Third World jungle will be outmaneuvered and trampled underfoot by the aggressive and unscrupulous.
It has been said on a number of podcasts and interviews here that ‘radical’ politics attracts eccentric, quirky misfits. GUILTY! I can’t fit in with gutless, money-worshipping, manipulable sheep. I value honor and respect over money and comfort. Dignity is more important than submitting to manipulative charges of racism, or any other scheming con game. I am high-strung and resentful of people who wish to guilt-trip and manipulate me. For more normal, respectable people that attitude is overdramatic. Uncalled-for and unreasonable. But just look at what our society has turned into with such calm, reasonable, docile cowards.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” — Krishnamurti
A solid analysis that lets us know where we stand, and what we have to do.
What pisses me off about whites is that they care more about philosophical abstractions such as liberty, egalitarianism, and individualism over future of their family and ethnicity. I hate to say it but the universalist and pacifistic ideals of Christianity have played in big role in the destruction of the white race and laid the foundation for the liberalism, multiculturalism, and Marxism.
Christianity has certainly contributed to white guilt. But its probably more caused by how the Western Faustian world feeling went through its intellectual phase which was worse than other instances of a world feeling going through an intellectual phase due to modern comfort, Jewish influence, and the nature of Faustian man to year for infinity which is very close to universalism.
Christianity’s subversive tendencies were in full swing when the Apollonian culture was going through its civilizatonal/intellect phase and then became relatively normal until the Faustian culture went through it too. Finally exiting the intellectual phase for Caesarism, etc (which per Yockey should have already begun but was delayed due to Jewish cultural distortion, similar to a delayed adulthood) should hopefully put an end to these frivolous Enlightenment abstractions spawned from hyper rationality.
We need to replace to Christianity with an ideology that is very masculine, ethnocentric, and warrior-like. Christianity at its core is very pietistic, cucked, and deranged and this ideology has infected the psyche of the white race ever since its inception. Marxism, feminism, and liberalism are the offsprings this ancient dark religion that has been a hindrance to our survival. Liberals are just another zealous sect of Christianity that takes it universalist and pietistic values more consistently despite the fact they deny the existence of the God. Whites have a bad habit virtue signaling and being sanctimonious to a point where it harms the well-being of our in-group.
True. Christian doctrine is the opposite of White positivity. Not only that, but they cut us off from our own myths and legends, made us worship another race, made us quit worshipping our own forbears, made us give Hebrew names to our children, and more.
The civic nationalist alternative of begging non-whites to abandon identity politics has proven ineffective
Somebody give vdare a call.
Dark Plato: “Rats in the ceiling? How do other restaurants rank?
In the nineties, I lived in Boston and my swanky Canadian friends took me to a Thai restaurant (Thai was really in then), and it was elegant, an old building, lots of Thai decor, white tablecloths, etc. As we were at the table talking, ready to order, I heard plop! and looked at my water glass. A cockroach had dropped from the ceiling was was frantically swimming. My friends were astounded. I called over the waiter. He shrugged and replaced my water glass. My friends insisted I should have demanded a free meal, but I think no meal from that place was a better proposition. Then, in the 1980s, there was a Chinese restaurant in Columbia, Mo, that got complaints about their food tasting “odd.” In the garbage cans in the kitchen, health inspectors found a number of the innards of dead cats…obviously on the menu. Once that got out, everyone avoided the place and it closed.
Not exactly related, but there was a Greek restaurant in Columbia, well-liked by my ethnic food loving girlfriend, and the food was good, but the Greeks were really cheap. In a cold winter, they wouldn’t turn up the heat, just dumping a space heater in the middle of the place. The waiters would scramble to the kitchen very chance they got to stay warm, so it was a bitch trying to get the check. A couple that my friend liked recently had a baby, and they brought “Baby Ben” along. In the restaurant, Ben “did a poopy,” as the couple lovingly said, and they proceeded to put Ben on a table and re-diaper him in front of everyone, and the stink filled the place. Customers frowned and scowled as the mommy happily took her time with Ben.
The help wouldn’t do anything because they all were hiding in the kitchen to stay warm. This couple were teachers and, yes, super-liberals, and their baby…as well as his poopy…was holy. Even my liberal girl friend was taken aback.
Oddly enough, a month later the man cried to his wife, confessed he was a homosexual and left her with Baby Ben.
And these were good white people, the kind who never met an ethnic restaurant they didn’t like. Also the kind of people who “love” immigrants.
Life in a college town, folks.
Chinese and Mexican restaurants can both lack cleanliness, but no other ethnicity tops the Indians utter disgustingness. Their places have a certain stench the second you walk in.
In all fairness keeping pests out of any restaurant is always going to be an ongoing difficult chore. The Indians just have the most flippant attitude towards it.
I was in Greece a couple of years back. There are stray cats everywhere in the Greek isles and in adjacent turkey. I thought they were kind of cute, depends how you like cats I guess. I was like, why are all these stray cats here? Then something else dawned on me: no Chinese restaurants around! Ahhhh…
I have seen a lot of old films from the middle of the 1900s that push lawfulness. This is the most common message in Westerns, film noir, and superhero comic books. Most Whites back then saw through “the law” and understood that lawfulness is the same as being a sheep. That’s why there was so much indoctrination for lawfulness in those old films. True free thinkers look up to Clint Eastwood or Jack Sparrow types, who do not care about the law. If I have children, they will see films that say that the law is toilet paper.
The old films are rife with propaganda of all kinds, but they are so cunningly written that most people would not see them as such. Today, movies are utterly shameless – obviously designed to indoctrinate. And it’s working pretty well, I’d say, where the majority of the population is concerned.
Mind you, the old westerns did not put the Indians on a pedestal. They were harshly dealt with. One I remember in particular was one with Barbara Stanwyck asking to be shot by her friends because the Indians were closing in and she knew what would happen to her. Then there was Many Rivers to Cross (comedy romance) where a man and a tough woman (Robert Taylor & Eleanor Parker), after some tribulation, finally made short work of a Shawnee raiding party who were out to scalp her.
I will watch those films. It is shocking that antiwhitism runs so deep that most folk don’t care if this kind of cruelty happens to them or their children. I have shown my whole family the South African farm murders, and they’re fine with being murdered that way. There is barely even a reaction on their face when they see the most horrific photos. That’s how much White guilt they have.
I truly believe that if there was no White guilt, then the world would be like a paradise for our folk. If White guilt went away tomorrow, then Europe and America would be 99% White in ten years at most.
Immigration displaces our whites from a lot of professions such as computer software programmers. In Silicon Valley they are all Indian and Chinese despite many native born computer scientist majors. The older ones get fired, the graduates don’t get hired.
Asians, which are not difficult to live around do make it more impossible expensive to buy real estate in the nice neighborhood you grew up. They love to rip down nice buildings down including some time landmarks and putting bigger buildings (often crap). Thus Americans become Vagabonds.
Toronto and Vancouver have become almost all Asian. Many examples of neighborhoods and nice town with easy commutes in the NYC metro (where I live and grew up) becoming all Asian. To the exurbs whether you want to or not.
The turn of the century immigration was difficult for the country. Also, I’m from that that immigration wave. That wave kept blacks in the south longer and such cities like Detroit Cleveland Gary Indiana were actually pleasant and affordable to live in. For the Americans it would have been better if there was no wave. Yet keeping blacks away was great compensation.
Adendum: With zero or near zero you would not need a minimum wage laws.
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