Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 538 Greg Johnson on Plato’s Gorgias, Lecture 1
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Greg Johnson began a five-week course on Plato’s Gorgias on the latest broadcast of Counter-Currents Radio, which will continue for the next four Saturdays (July 1, 8, 15, and 22). The first lecture, which both introduces the dialogue as a whole and also examines Socrates’ argument with the great Sophist Gorgias, can be heard below.
The theme of the course is “Might vs. Right.” Dr. Johnson will be using Donald J. Zeyl’s translation of the Gorgias published by Hackett as both a separate book and as part of their Plato Complete Works volume. You can use other translations, because all Plato translations have a standard citation format known as Stephanus numbers, which appear in the margins of each translation. There are many free online translations, for instance this one at Archive.org [2]. The first lecture ends at Stephanus number 466a.
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Topics discussed in the first lecture include:
00:03:49 Themes of Plato’s Gorgias
00:06:22 What literary genre is the Gorgias?
00:07:50 Characters in the Gorgias
00:09:05 What is sophistry?
00:15:56 On the structure of the dialogue
00:17:51 What is the setting of the dialogue?
00:21:49 How the Sophists valued public perception
00:32:39 Beginning the analysis of the dialogue
00:40:22 To truly have an art, you must be able to teach it
00:44:47 The Socratic concept of “irony”
00:47:59 What is oratory concerned with?
00:53:09 On the distinction between knowledge and opinion
00:58:08 How rhetoric is morally neutral
01:01:53 Rhetoric as the art of tyranny
01:09:09 Shouldn’t we be siding with Gorgias in this debate?
01:15:45 Was the West invented by Jews?
01:17:28 Did the Christians get their morals from the Greeks?
01:20:04 Winning the argument versus finding the truth
01:30:04 Socrates catches Gorgias in a contradiction
01:35:08 Rhetoric as the “controlling art”
01:40:06 On how you can have too much diversity
01:44:02 Why Gorgias deserves some credit
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