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Is the Response to the Ohio Train Disaster Anti-White Racism?
Cyan Quinn
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A train carrying vinyl chloride, a toxic chemical used to make plastic pipes, cable coating, and packaging, derailed in East Palestine, Ohio on February 3, spilling five tankers full of the substance. Emergency crews burned the remaining contents to prevent an explosion, prompting an evacuation of over 2,000 residents.
According to a Yahoo News report, creating this chemical burn pit was cheaper than hauling it all away. Attorney John Morgan, who is suing Norfolk Southern over the incident, said, “I’m not sure Norfolk Southern could have come up with a worse plan to address this disaster.”
Vinyl chloride when burned produces hydrogen chloride and phosgene. Phosgene is a chemical warfare agent that was used in the First World War that causes lung damage and, with sufficient exposure, asphyxiation, while hydrogen chloride corrodes any tissue it comes into contact with.
But in an article titled “‘Chernobyl 2.0’? Ohio Train Derailment Spurs Wild Speculation,” the New York Times asserts that “Right-wing commentators have been particularly critical of the response, using the crisis to sow distrust about government agencies and suggest the damage could be irreparable.”
Can you really blame anyone for not trusting the government after the botched COVID response over the last three years? Remember when COVID was supposed to be frighteningly deadly, but closing the borders to stop it was racist? Or how the vaccine was 100% safe and effective — then 89%, and then 58%?
Ohio residents are right to question whether the air testing being carried out by Norfolk Southern is actually objective. The railway company was less than forthcoming, and the full list of chemicals involved in the derailment was not released until February 12, nine days following the incident and after local citizens had already returned to their homes and began complaining of a lingering odor, headaches, mysteriously dead chickens, sick pets, and thousands of dead fish.
Meanwhile, the government dawdled. At a town hall meeting on Wednesday, only one representative above the municipal level showed up: Ohio Congressman Bill Johnson. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine were nowhere to be seen. Norfolk Southern declined to attend the meeting, citing “personal safety concerns” although Ohio police say they received no reports of threats.
Joseph Jordan, a pro-white activist and journalist representing political pressure group the National Justice Party, confronted Congressman Johnson about the lack of a federal response to this disaster. Johnson became hostile and said, “You go ask the Governor. He’s in Columbus.”
In an earlier statement responding to criticism, Johnson said, “No one has asked me to reach out to FEMA.”
Only after the town hall meeting did Governor DeWine confirm that any requests for federal assistance had been made. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) replied that the area did not qualify, however, since the homes there were still intact.
The EPA states on its website that of February 13, indoor air screenings of 291 homes that were sponsored by Norfolk Southern revealed no vinyl chloride or hydrogen chloride above detectable levels. Regardless, I spoke to an area resident yesterday who told me that “people’s chickens are dying, foxes are dying,” and that “fish are popping out of the water, dead.”
You can buy Greg Johnson’s The Year America Died here.
A local woman likewise reported that her chickens had died overnight when officials began the controlled burn. “If it can do that to chickens overnight, what’s it going to do to us in 20 years?” she asked.
The big question is: Is the lackluster response to this catastrophe due to general incompetence, mixed messages about public safety, and lack of government trust? Or is it because the politicians realize they won’t get diversity points for helping a community that is 93.5% white?
When Jackson, Mississippi’s water became undrinkable at the end of August 2022, it took just two days for President Biden to issue a state of emergency and initiate funding emergency protective measures for its citizens. But Jackson is 82.47% black. Biden has so far been silent about Ohio.
As of this writing, Norfolk Southern has increased its payments to each resident who had to temporarily evacuate to $1,000, after having initially offered $25,000 to all the victims — a pittance of $5 per person.
Is it a conspiracy?
My Telegram feed was full of people commenting that this is a conspiracy, and that Ohio residents are living out a real-life version of Netflix’s White Noise. (Is this a new form of viral marketing? Netflix, you can mail my check here, thanks.)
The Heritage Foundation posted their own characteristically cringe take, blaming the derailment on Biden opposing the Keystone Pipeline.
Whether a conspiracy or not, it is surely noteworthy that this was the eighth train derailment in the last five years at the same location. In fact, there is an average of 1,704 derailments in the US per year.
The National Transportation Safety Board has yet to make a decision on the derailment’s official cause, but a mechanical problem with an axle in one of the 150 cars involved is believed to have been the issue. This axle was seen throwing sparks 20 miles before the derailment, according to CBS.
Norfolk Southern employees reported to CBS that
[w]e shouldn’t be running trains that are 150 car lengths long . . . In this case, had the train not been 18,000 tons, it’s very likely the effects of the derailment would have been mitigated.
The workers are exhausted, times for car inspections have been drastically cut, and there are no regulations on the size of these trains.
The invisible white working class
The job of railway conductor is still an overwhelmingly white profession at 72.4%. Railway workers overall are 59.5% white.
There are only seven Class 1 railroads that handle all national freight: BNSF Railway Co., Canadian National Railway, Canadian Pacific, CSX Transportation, Kansas City Southern Railway Co., Norfolk Southern, and Union Pacific. All were involved in a recent labor dispute over the complete lack of sick leave and extreme labor shortages.
For example, Norfolk Southern was one of many rail companies that implemented the euphemistically titled program of Precision Schedule Railroading in 2019 to increase efficiency and cut costs. In practice, this was a staff cut of 28% among these seven railroads.
BNSF Railway implemented an attendance policy called “Hi Viz” which required them to be on call 90% of the time, including during the middle of the night, resulting in conductors suffering from extreme fatigue.
The labor unrest culminated in September of last year. A railway strike was narrowly avoided — not due to a compromise between management and labor, but because the Biden administration signed a bill into law which forced workers to accept an agreement that included only one day of sick leave.
The Railway Labor Act grants Congress the right to intervene in any railway or airline strike. Former North Carolina senator Richard Burr and Mississippi Senator Roger Wicker proposed an earlier version of the bill that would force unions to accept a proposal put forward by the Biden administration which would offer workers a 24% pay increase, but included zero sick days. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders opposed the bill, saying:
We are the only major country on earth that does not guarantee paid sick days. In Germany, workers are entitled to four weeks of paid sick leave at 70% of their salary. In Norway, workers are entitled to one year of paid sick leave at 100% of their salary. In the U.K., workers are entitled up to 28 weeks of paid sick leave. . . . The CEOs of many of these rail companies are enjoying huge compensation packages. For example, last year the CEO of CSX made over $20 million in total compensation while the CEOs of Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern made over $14 million each in total compensation.
Yes, Norfolk Southern’s CEO Alan Shaw received over $14 million in total compensation, but rail workers can have only one day of sick leave.
With the exception of Sanders, who emphatically opposed the bill, the white working class in the United States no longer enjoys representation from their politicians, including Democrats like Biden.
We’re seeing an emerging invisible class of both white workers and white communities. Diversity, which I’ve been told is a strength, is also a union-busting tool. According to a Business Insider report, Whole Foods Market maintains a heat map identifying those of their stores which have higher diversity, as they are considered less likely to unionize.
Diversity hurts working Americans and invisible — although supposedly “white privileged” — small communities like East Palestine by dividing the working class’ camaraderie and alienating communities from heads of corporations like Alan Shaw and out-of-touch politicians.
To prevent the next East Palestine disaster, we need a capitalist class that puts the national interest before mere profit, stockholders who will emphatically support this double bottom line investing, and a working class that can enjoy a dignified, healthy life.
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58 comments
Great informative article Cyan.
Extra points for mentioning the white working class.
Even more extra points for using the word “dawdled,” which I’d also used for the first time in my life earlier today.
Jim, this is right inside your wheelhouse. I’d love to hear your take on it.
Oh boy! Thank you, Jim!
An anti-white capitalist narrative is one take on the fiasco. Certainly with the lack of response, I’d agree. I’ve also heard the narrative that this crash was a result of a very diverse set of railroad employees.
I’ve also heard the narrative that this crash was a result of a very diverse set of railroad employees.
diversity as implemented by by anti-white capitalists. Follow the money.
Exhibit A:
http://nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/inclusion-and-diversity.html
I’m sure it’s no accident that there’s been zero response from Washington. One rowdy pavement ape gets kneeled on, it’s a national tragedy; 4600(adjusting for demographics, and that’s just counting the population of East Palestine, not to mention the communities downriver) white people in Ohio suffering potential long-term health effects is business as usual. Tangentially, it’s interesting to see how much Fox News (at least Tucker Carlson’s show) has upped explicitly mentioning how current issues affect white people in the recent months. Guess blaming the 5v1 black-on-black police beating on “white supremacy” opened up a window?
East Palestine is too big to cover up and the government’s attempt to do so will backfire. You can’t exactly sweep apocalyptic storm clouds of a chemical burn under the rug.
Class collaboration enforced by a powerful centralized government with the authority to put the screws to the fatcats has always been the answer.
Former President Donald Trump to Visit East Palestine
Thanks for this report, Cyan; you really did your research.
“In fact, there is an average of 1,704 derailments in the US per year.”
Over four derailments every day?! That is disturbing. It’s hard to imagine such a thing as a minor derailment.
Αn interesting discussion is woгth comment.
I do think that you ought to publish more on this topiс,
it may not be a taboo mаtter but generally people
don’t talk about thesе subjects. To the next! All the best!!
Our politicians are privately saying “vinyl chloride is giving East Palestine that new car smell. What are they complaining about?”
This village is in need of a new name. I suggest White Noise.
I suggest Rivers of Crud.
The Vinyl Solution
Article on train derailment in East Palestine, OH (98.2% white) feels the need to state that “Black and brown, and less affluent communities most impacted by such incidents.” White people are not mentioned. https://t.co/Wol9wjZnjQ
‘Asteroid strikes Earth. All living things dead. LGBTQ and POC hit hardest.’
^ A real quote from the future
🙂
The Biden response to East Palestine reminds me of their horrible, hateful response to Waukesha, Wisconsin. Unlike Waukesha, the East Palestine has no obvious black murderer. But just like Waukesha, it has a White population that has been marginalized and ridiculed by elites for years and is now deeply wounded. These are the people Biden hates. His “administration” of junior-high school live-action-role players have no qualms in ignoring this hurt. Soon, from mainstream media, we’ll hear that there has been an inordinate response to East Palestine. Joy Reid will wail that it’s White privilege that brought FEMA to East Palestine, it’s white privilege that forces our government to help a predominantly White city get aid.
Well, maybe if whites were pushier about defending their own legitimate interests (as POC are about their illegitimate interests), things would change. Whites, including non-liberals, are their own worst enemies. They still don’t get that stoicism is a sucker’s game under democracy and especially diversity.
It would definitely at least make things more uncomfortable for the powers that be. Right now, they get a free pass due to a completely apathetic and/or terrified white populace. Not to be black-pilled though, because that is slowly but surely changing.
All very good points.
Agreed, 100% with all three of you, Lord Shang, Richard Chance, and Hamburger Today. Our legitimate interests really are being belittled, ridiculed, and made minor while the illegitimate interests of the blacks are not only elevated by the press, they are actually funded by our government.
This is terrifying:
On February 16, 2023, Biden just executive ordered that EVERY branch, division, section, nook and cranny of the federal government, “shall, within 30 days of the date of this order, ensure that they have in place an Agency Equity Team within their respective agencies to coordinate the implementation of equity initiatives and ensure that their respective agencies are delivering equitable outcomes for the American people.”
In addition, Biden’s administration is creating a false strata of the economy. All of these equity, diversity, and inclusion positions have elevated a massive amount of people into salaries they don’t deserve but once in place will never go away. This latest executive order will create reams of overpaid inquisitors whose continued existence is based on finding problems where none exist. Even if, and I do mean IF, a Republican President is elected, he or she will never be able to rid us of these Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion jobs.
To that point, look at what this executive order mandates: “Each Agency Equity Team shall be led by a designated senior official (senior designee) charged with implementing my Administration’s equity initiatives, and shall include senior officials from the office of the agency head and the agency’s program, policy, civil rights, regulatory, science, technology, service delivery, financial assistance and grants, data, budget, procurement, public engagement, legal, and evaluation offices, as well as the agency’s Chief Diversity Officer, to the extent applicable.”
And to leave no stone unturned, “the senior agency official designated to coordinate with the Gender Policy Council pursuant to Executive Order 14020 of March 8, 2021 (Establishment of the White House Gender Policy Council).”
I heard about this on Fox’s Tucker Carlson Show. His point was that Biden’s Equity plan benefits everyone BUT White males. And it’s true. To Lord Shang’s point, they have no problem defending their illegitimate interests and this executive order is massive and full of government double-speak, black pseudo-science jib jab, and never- ending programs aimed squarely at us Whites. Here it is:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/02/16/executive-order-on-further-advancing-racial-equity-and-support-for-underserved-communities-through-the-federal-government/
‘Terrifying’ is not the word I would use. The word I would use is ‘clever’. What the anti-White Jews sold their White followers – ‘conservatives’ – was the idea that ‘government is not the answer’. Therefore, the anti-White Jews who lead the ‘liberals’ had free reign to use everyone’s tax dollars to pay to create an ever-expanding need for racial commissars in the form of various kinds of ‘grievance studies’. All the ‘conservatives’ who spent the last years yucking it up about the job prospect for ‘feminist film studies’ and ‘African American’ studies are now standing around gape-jawed while the DNC Jews create jobs for these degrees.
What I’ve learned is that every idea with ‘conservative’ associated with it amounts, ultimately, to some kind of retreat or justification for failure to succeed. Stripped of all the ‘1776’ and ‘all men are created equal’ clap-trap, all ‘conservative’ solutions amount to the same thing: Let someone else make policy.
Fortunately, there are parts of the country with fewer big cities and a tradition of not giving a crap about the Jews. They may describe themselves as ‘conservative’ but, in fact, they’re either deeply reactionary (‘roll back’) or even revolutionary (‘roll over’). Moves are being made by some states to provide a basis for nullifying the money-making power of the Federal Reserve. This is little commented-upon in the ‘conservative’ media because, well, the Jews don’t want this kind of thinking to expand. But there are already 4 states that have either laws on the books or laws in the works to make precious metals valid currency for all transactions in their state. I’m not a ‘hard money’ person because I think most ‘hard money’ people seem oblivious to the dangers of deflation due to insufficient available currency. However, I applaud creating alternatives to the Fed and the emergence of a truly ‘diverse’ continental currency regime.
Our racial enemies are not going to be convinced by moral or logical suasion without a non-symbolic deterrent.
If your control the currency, you control the territory where that currency is in demand.
That is some good history and gives an interesting angle I’d not considered before. These absolute garbage disciplines are created and then buttressed by the DNC while we did have a good chuckle at the dim prospects of that one crazy, corn-rowed black loudmouth with whom we had to suffer through a college class. What possible job could they get? Well, OK, a job back in one of the big, liberal, democrat-run cities. Wait, what? This corn-row is now Senior Chief Equity And Diversity President for Fort Lewis College in Durango, Colorado? But no! There aren’t any blacks in Durango! Why would they bring any, why would they…? How? Why? Choke, gasp. Nothing will ever be the same because as you say, they created jobs for these nut case disciplines. And now we have these diversity equity hires who command a 6-figure salary because they must be exorbitantly paid because a degree in African Studies must be attached to a high salary. We don’t want people knowing the truth that it’s a BS job title. You may not care about diversity and equity, but diversity and equity care about you. And they will follow you to the ends of the earth, even to Durango, Colorado .
The funny thing is, most peoples life problems come back to the fact that our European countries are currently being managed by people who hate us and want to destroy us. That is the most simple explanation for most peoples problems.
Most people wouldn’t have screwed up financial problems if we weren’t controlled by Jewish central banks.
Most people would have better mental and physical health if it were not for Big Pharma.
Etc etc.
In our ideal society, there would still be problems and messed up people. But there would be significantly fewer of them.
You know, I learned something new from commenter Hamburger Today and I must also add that one of your comments also was a revelation. You said this:
“European countries are currently being managed by people who hate us and want to destroy us. That is the most simple explanation for most peoples problems.”
That is exactly right. I vividly remember the day, sometime early in Biden’s reign, shaking my head several times a day in disbelief when hearing yet another government edict or policy. As you said, when it hit me that our government hates us, really, actually hates us, the clouds parted. I now firmly believe two things: 1. That our government hates us and 2. That we really don’t have our government at all anymore. What Biden is turning it into will he an unrecognizable Leviathan monstrosity with layers that no one will even know about.
His recent February 16 executive order called On Further Advancing Racial Equity And Support For Underserved Communities Through The Federal Government will create a massive bureaucracy that can never be dismantled.
The Rally on January 6 resulted in imprisoning many innocents who still languish in jail with no rights. Why? See numbers 1 and 2 above. A train derailment happens in White America. Too bad, your government hates you and can’t function anyways because our government does not exist anymore.
Sure, Biden can fly to Kiev. And he sure can blather about the billions more he will give them straight from our pockets, after a bit of stiff-arming from his new, armed IRS.
Meanwhile, I know our leaders hate us as I now pay a natural gas bill that has more than doubled, my trash company tacks on a 22% fuel surcharge on every bill, the prices at the grocery store and pharmacy are insane and the shelves are bare or close to it. They do hate us and will not stop until we are a third-world hell hole.
How did the mayor get his hands on a megaphone with an NJP sticker on it? Was that photoshopped?
We really have gone full circle when you have a leftist media outlet complaining about right wingers not believing what the government is saying about an environmental disaster. The brazenness is beyond palpable at this point what with the governor’s office saying it’s safe to return home and then within 24 hours later the EPA is saying they don’t have EPA spooks on the ground there because it isn’t safe yet, https://twitter.com/thechiefnerd/status/1626344528264278016. Don’t want people not to trust the government? Then don’t have one guy from the government say it’s safe to go home after doing a controlled burn of dangerous chemicals and then 24 hours another guy from the government says government spooks aren’t going to ground zero to assess the situation because it isn’t safe.
Reading the MSDS (safety sheet) on this vinyl chloride it seems like burning it off is not a good idea at all. I think the “we need to do a controlled burn before it explodes!” was all a ruse to clean up the mess in the quickest and cheapest way possible.
Why are there what appears to be trashbags lining the floor of the gym where the townhall took place?
I’m almost certain it was given to him by NJP activist Joseph Jordan (AKA ‘Eric Striker’).
Consider this: The only person who thought to provide a public address system to this mass meeting was an ‘interested outside party’. That’s how inadequate the response was.
This is a very good article on the event: https://justicereport.news/articles/2023/02/16/national-justice-party-confronts-us-congressman-at-east-palestine-train-derailment-town-hall-meeting-exclusive.
One particular aspect of this event worth thinking about is described as follows:
Throughout the crowd of White citizens—many donning flannel shirts and “Make America Great Again” sweaters—one resident was concerned about the image of her town and how residents were being portrayed. Her plea to the media was for the people affected to not be labeled as “victims” and that it was the town’s sole responsibility to solve this crisis.
“When you’re reporting, please do not report that we are some poor community that
wants payouts. We just want answers.” – Attendee, Town Hall Meeting
I’d like to suggest that this person’s response is the other side of institutionalized anti-White thinking. The GOP anti-White Jews have been promoting ‘rugged individualism’ and ‘government is not the answer’ to Whites for so long and with such intensity that now, when confronted with a mass-destruction event, an affected White person can only think about how they don’t want to be a ‘victim’ when in fact they are a victim, how they don’t want to be perceived as not being able to ‘bootstrap’ their problems, even when they didn’t have the slightest agency in creating the problem.
This is what ‘conservative’ anti-Whiteness looks like: Masochism masquerading as rugged individualism.
It’ll be really on the nose if the ADL or SPLC decides to hound the mayor for using a megaphone with an NJP sticker on it.
Maybe. It’s hard to say. In the deep heartland, they’re more race-cucked about jews than some place with lots of jews.
Nicely done.
Racialize everything.
Facts are irrelevant unless they support our side.
It’s getting even weirder yet:
White House explains why it turned down disaster relief for Ohio
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-explains-why-it-turned-down-disaster-relief-for-ohio/ar-AA17Cd8e#:~:text=DeWine's%20office%20said%20Thursday%20that%20it%20has%20been,HHS%20and%20the%20CDC%20to%20support%20the%20state.
“FEMA is on the frontlines when there is a hurricane or tornado. This situation is different.”
Thanks for explaining that, Joe.
The CDC changed the lethal dose for vinyl chloride exposure from 100ppm to 100,000ppm ELEVEN DAYS before the incident, and removed sections on dangers to children specifically, among other things.
That tox sheet hadn’t been updated since 2006 previously.
I thought it was BS when I saw this floating around in conspiracy circles, but then I actually found the pdf straight from cdc.gov, with version history. There was foreknowledge and this was no accident. They are going scorched earth on rural America. There have been quite a few chemical accidents in the couple of weeks around this one, this is just the nastiest.
Interesting. Could you link said .pdf please?
https://atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp20.pdf (feel free to download in case it gets removed)
summary of the changes:
https://ussanews.com/2023/02/17/cdc-changed-vinyl-chloride-toxicity-information-weeks-before-train-derailment/
also for extra points check out the summary of the netflix movie “white noise”
“white noise”
Good article re FEMA hypocrisy, but let’s get a little more realistic about unions. Immigration harms the working class (I work; I’m white; am I “white working class”?) directly via artificially imported labor competition. That immigration, being around 95%+ nonwhite, also harms the “camaraderie” helpful to union formation is kind of beside the point (and also debatable: SEIU is heavily nonwhite, as are other unions).
Unions, which incidentally, today are mostly public sector, disproportionately nonwhite, and a huge drain on whites and taxpayers, have never been a primary help to the workers – contrary to more than a century of socialist and syndicalist propaganda. It is the capitalist system itself that has raised billions from the rank poverty of the preindustrial age. Even Marx, despite his monumental errors, recognized this. Unions merely help their own members at the morally illegitimate expense of non-members, or workers in other areas, along with consumers.
Quinn might wish to study works such as Hutt, The Strike-Threat System, and Dickman, Industrial Democracy in America, to gain a real sense of the massive evils that unionism has inflicted upon Americans (and other nations) over the past century and a half (and right up to the present: most unions, to this very day, still politically support the Party of Open Borders and Diversity {aka Democrats – hardly the white man’s friends}).
Interesting. I seem to remember that Milton Friedman said the same thing about unions as what you say Marx said.. Correct me if I am wrong.
Of course, “Uncle Milty” (as some of us on the 1970s Reagan-Right used to refer to him) would have said that (about capitalism). I don’t have an exact reference in mind, but he probably said it somewhere in Capitalism and Freedom (a book I read a very long time ago). He certainly reiterated that point countless times in his long running Newsweek column (you might be old enough to recall it). And he was no fan of unionism.
I agree with WNs that our very racial survival is at stake, and that therefore all other issues should be subordinated to the Great Issue of white preservation. Indeed, I have been thinking this since the 80s – and with vastly greater force since the Fall of the Berlin Wall, which at the time I idiotically thought would usher in a new age of race realist and prowhite GOP initiatives (now that they were liberated from having to subordinate domestic policy activism to the imperatives of the Cold War). How little I then understood either the corruption of the GOP, or the cowardice of “bourgeois conservatives”!
But my larger point here is that racial survivalism should not be used as an excuse by WNs to recapitulate old and long exposed past errors. Just because our concerns are racial doesn’t mean we should engage in non-racial policy stupidity. American unions haven’t been prowhite since the 19th century, and there is precisely zero reason to expect that they ever will be again. Most whites are not members of private sector unions; those unions at best help their members, not whites at large. And the evil public sector unions are as woke as they come. What we desperately need are white and prowhite political, social and cultural organizations. Unions per se offer whites as a whole nothing.
Yes, everything you say is correct. I have read both ”Capitalism and Freedom” and “Free to Choose” and I am not sure where MF said that. But it is really a trivial issue. I came to WN much later than you, so I guess you can say I am a little slow. It’s funny but I read JT’s “Paved with Good intentions” and Peter Primelos’s “Alien Nation” and they did not convert me to WN. I was still following Thomas Sowell. But in 1998, I read Michael Levin’s “Why Race Matters” and I saw the fact that genes count and they count big time.
It’s funny but I read JT’s “Paved with Good intentions” and Peter Primelos’s “Alien Nation” and they did not convert me to WN. I was still following Thomas Sowell. But in 1998, I read Michael Levin’s “Why Race Matters” and I saw the fact that genes count and they count big time.
I wonder what we mean exactly by “white nationalism”. To me, WN means that whites are a biologically, sociologically, culturally, and politically identifiable group; that we as whites have legitimate common interests that can be, and today are, often in conflict with the interests, both legitimate and, more often, illegitimate, and behaviors of other groups; that in such conflicts or competitions we have both the right and the obligation to pursue our own interests; and that the severity of the assaults on whites and white interests is today so great that advancing white interests should be the primary political concern of whites.
If that is more or less what WN is all about, I would say Levin’s excellent book was not really WN, but rather, “race-realistic” (and otherwise rather libertarian). It was the best book I’ve ever encountered demonstrating the public policy implications of (already then, mid-90s) well-established genetic (and socio-cultural) differences between the races in modal abilities and temperament. But it was only prowhite by functionally and by implication.
Something of the same can be said for the courageous, if academically inferior (to Levin’s tome) Paved with Good Intentions. That book simply massively exposed the dishonesty of the then general unwillingness (even, especially, among conservatives) to admit that most violent street crime was being committed by blacks. Do you recall how desperately the association between race and crime was covered up in the 80s? I do.
But again, was Taylor’s book exactly “white nationalist”? Not in my recollection. It was more “race-realism”. Taylor wanted people to know the truth about blacks and crime; he wasn’t specifically advocating for white interests (as he would do in his American Renaissance newsletter).
Brimelow’s excellent book I would put in the category of “implicit WN”. He was careful to make his case against immigration for impeccably conservative reasons. He didn’t quite advocate for white Americans as whites. He simply pointed out the multiform and multivariate costs of mass immigration to native born Americans (who were always of course mostly white) – which include the alienation born of being forced to forfeit control of your own country to aliens.
But that notwithstanding, I’m surprised the Brimelow book didn’t move you to some prowhite (ie, more than merely standard conservative) position.
Jud,
Did you mean to say this:
“I suppose it is possible for one to be a WN and not an RR but very unlikely”
or this?
“I suppose it is possible for one to be a RR and not a WN but very unlikely”
I’ve known several race realists, mostly Jews, as well as three conservative nonwhites (a Mexican, an Oriental, and a Catholic “Hindustani”), but including at least two non-Jewish white leftists (one a moderate liberal, the other a flaming, envy-ridden socialist), as well as one Christianist conservative, who, despite all being racially aware and honest about it, nevertheless were not white nationalists, albeit for their differing respective reasons. RR just means “honesty about race” – its biological basis and behavioral expressions.
WN of course involves a great deal more. It is an ideology and political agenda built upon race realism and its public policy implications, as well as, ultimately (at least for me), a moral stance rooted in classically white notions of justice and fairness applied to the global issues of white preservation and white political and cultural rights.
I can easily understand someone (even a white person) being racially realistic without giving a hoot about long term white survival or even current white well-being, and, as indicated, I’ve met such people. But I have a hard time conceptualizing what a “white nationalism” that is not race realistic would look like, and I’m pretty sure I’ve never encountered anyone holding such views.
A brilliant piece. I have followed this story as best I can, but you seem to have sources I can’t find. The railways can be weaponised, it seems. Spills here, spills there, just make sure they are in MAGA country. Can people who develop conditions medically traceable to this kind of thing sue? If so, do they sue the state or the railway company? This is a new type of warfare, I think.
Per Hanlon, “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
I have no doubt that these clowns are evil but it truly hard to view them as “evil genius clowns”
They could screw-up a 2 car parade, I have seen them do it.
Government, or as I like to refer to them, Stupid people in large groups with guns” is the only entity that could go broke running a whorehouse and selling liquor and weed when they have a legal corner on the market.
I weep and laugh at the future, I won’t wear this mortal coil long, But God gave me some foresight.
I got to live through the tail-end of one civilization, our glory days as it were.
Good luck suckers
We’re going to see a lot more of these incidents due to all of the aforementioned and unqualified people in positions they have no business to be in or experience with the subject matter. Our transportation secretary’s only qualification for his job is he’s gay and he was mayor of a small college town in Indiana.
This shit is just Affirmative Action repackaged:
http://nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/inclusion-and-diversity.html
One of the stories which bounced around the leftist media-sphere in the wake of 2005’s Hurricane Katrina was that African-Americans were the primary victims. This was due to any number of alleged reasons: lack of prompt FEMA response, White people having better access to transport out of the disaster zone, levees being dynamited, and so forth.
Some of this can be dismissed as rumor, some of it as the difference in survivability of groups which possess high future time orientation versus those which lack impulse control, whatever.
Then there’s the ideological word salad about underserved-vulnerable-communities-of-marginalized-color(tm) coming into use in disaster relief operations which percolates down to prioritizing resources towards non-Whites over Whites.
It may just be that the federal government decided to minimize response to the Ohio train derailment disaster as a form of so-called “racial justice.” i.e., payback against YT for Katrina.
Something to think about in the continuing chaos…
“To prevent the next East Palestine disaster, we need a capitalist class that puts the national interest before mere profit..”
Would that still be capitalism? Not in my book. As much as it galls self-described Men-of-the-Right to accept it, capitalism is the primary threat to the integrity of white nations. Not an ill-defined ‘left’. Not God’s chosen. These are secondary players in support of an economic system which has been inherently anti-national for at least 40 years.
Trying to further the interests of white communities while leaving capitalism intact is like treating the symptoms of the disease – and ignoring its cause.
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Thanks for the correction Lord Shang,
Yes there is a difference between Race Realism and White Nationalism although they are very close. I suppose it is possible for one to be a WN and not an RR but very unlikely. And Levin’s book was about RR, not WN. RR led me to WN pretty quickly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11759565/Norfolk-Southern-did-NOT-blow-train-did-save-money-expert-says.html
You don’t need to be an expert to figure out that the plume of black smoke did not bode well for the denizens of East Palestine.
If the good folks of East Palestine are in need of FEMA assistance they should perhaps consider changing their name to East Israel(or Ukraine for that matter).
Lord Shang, I meant the second. Thanks once again for the correction. It is possible to be an RR and not a WN but not likely. To be an RR means having some familiarity with Jensen, Rushton, Lynn and of course, Levin. Reading these guys will turn any logical person into an RR. There probably a lot of people in our movement who never read much of anything along these lines but they are WNs. They will never understand RR.
I see that you are perhaps contrasting emotional versus scientific approaches to the race issue. There are WNs who have not read much in the tradition of scientific analysis of racial differences, but who have an emotional attachment to their fellow whites, realize that we’re under assault, and favor a politics of racial defense and preservation (a “racial nationalism”). Obviously, one does not have to be familiar with the science of race differences to recognize that such exist, let alone to favor your side in racial competitions. But I can’t imagine any such emotivist WN types being ‘offended’ by a Shockley or Levin or Rushton etc expostulating on biodiversity theories and discoveries.
OTOH, as I alluded, there certainly are persons who accept racial reality, but reject WN as a political ideology. Some of these people are nonwhite. Others are white, but prioritize other political issues. Still other RR-non-WNs may be honest about human biodiversity, but nevertheless think that a WN politics is immoral for some reason or another. My Christianist conservative acquaintance is like this, as is Thomas Fleming, the former long time editor of the leading paleoconservative magazine Chronicles. The latter always knew perfectly well about RR, but nevertheless denounced any attempts at developing a specifically prowhite politics. And yet still others believe that HBD is real, but then turn around and say this means we have to do … more … for racial minorities to overcome their genetic inequality in modal, cognitive, civilization-building faculties (I’m not kidding: my liberal friend and socialist one – both militant atheists, btw {perhaps a fact of some significance} – are like this; talk about race and IQ, and they say this proves we must have affirmative action and more money spent on inner-city remedial education).
Lord Shang, I think your summary is excellent and i have nothing to add. I lived close to the Rockford Institute when I lived in Illinois. So I attended several of their events. I always found Fleming to be a nice personable guy. But a friend of mine said that Jared Taylor and Fleming both attended some event (I think it may have been The John Randolph Club). While Jared was speaking, my friend noticed that Fleming was scowling through the whole speech as if he hated what JT was saying. I have heard many others complain about Fleming as well. What I don’t understand is how Sam Francis could get along with Fleming and JT clearly got along well with Sam but Fleming seemed to hate JT.
Thanks Jud. I may have attended that JRC event, as I attended a bunch in the 90s. That was where I first met both Fleming and Taylor. I do recall Fleming bad mouthing Jared in my presence one time at an event, probably a JRC one (I don’t think Fleming attended the AR conferences). I read Fleming and Chronicles assiduously for decades (overlapping with AR print ed.), and Fleming constantly pissed on the Racial Right in print. Of course, criticizing WN 1.0 types (the neo-Nazis, KKK, skinheads, etc) was always pretty easy (and justifiable) for a Christian conservative. The hypocrisy came when Fleming kept insisting that we shouldn’t develop a prowhite politics. “Why not?, I once asked him (circa 1993). He went off on some huge diatribe about Odinism and similar irrelevancies, even though he admitted that he’d read The Dispossessed Majority as early as 1980, and acknowledged it to be a very important work for the Right. He was always confused between his genuine familiarity with sociobiology (evident in his excellent 1988 book The Politics of Human Nature – a book I myself ought to review for CC, just to bring it back to people’s attention), and thus understanding of racial realism, and a certain Christian-universalist-based knee jerk racial liberalism. I’m sure he finds wokeness appalling. But he could never bring himself quite to admit that the West is white, and will only survive to the extent that whites endure and maintain sovereign national majorities (and thus that WN of some variety is the inevitable political conclusion).
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