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Author’s Note: In a recent livestream, a long-time listener, Sutton, asked me, “Greg, what would you do if you decided that the cause is hopeless?” I revisited this question in a later livestream. Hyacinth Bouquet transcribed my answers, and I combined them and cleaned them up a bit. I want to thank both Sutton and Hyacinth.
That’s a very interesting question. “The cause,” of course, is saving the white race.
Believe me, I often wonder if there are enough serious people to save our race in America and around the world. However, I believe it is still possible to win; therefore, I’m still here.
So what would I do if I lost hope?
My first answer is very simple. It doesn’t require any nuance. If I believed the cause is hopeless, I would quit.
Why? Because, if I were still a public figure in the movement — running Counter-Currents, writing articles, selling books, collecting donations — even after concluding that the cause is hopeless, that is pretty much the definition of a racket. That is pretty much the definition of a grift.
The only reason anybody would stay involved in White Nationalism in a public way if he believed that it was hopeless, would be for selfish reasons.
Nobody gets involved in White Nationalism for the money. Most people get involved because of conviction. But some of them lose their conviction, and since they can’t go back to mainstream life, they are forced to stay involved. So they go from fighting for what’s right to sticking around just because there’s money in it. It might not be a lot of money, but it might be the only money that they can hope for. If such a person doesn’t need money, but sticks around after losing hope, chances are it is for simple ego-gratification. He might simply enjoy being a big fish in a small pond or playing the villain to the mass media.
If you don’t believe victory is possible, then you’re not going to be a very effective fighter. You’d have to be the greatest actor in the world to pull that off. Nor are you going to be very effective at motivating others to fight. Indeed, you’d have to be a complete sociopath to encourage people to waste their lives and money on what you regard as a doomed cause.
So the simple answer is: If I believed that victory was impossible, I would quit; and if I didn’t quit, I would be a grifter.
However, there is a more nuanced answer: If you are doing something that you think is your duty, you don’t really calculate the chances of success at all. Even if it seems hopeless, you are still obligated to do your duty. Do your duty, and let God sort out the rest. To do what’s right, regardless of the consequences, is a noble attitude, so maybe you could carve out some kind of exception for people who say, “I really do believe in my heart of hearts that it’s hopeless; but I believe it’s my duty to fight to the last man.” Maybe you could say that person isn’t just being a grifter.
However, even if you grant that such people are sincere idealists, they shouldn’t be public figures. They shouldn’t be hogging the limelight. Instead, they should make space for people who actually believe that victory is possible, because people who actually believe that victory is possible are more likely to motivate people to fight effectively, which will make victory possible.
You have to believe that victory is at least possible. You can’t know for sure, because nobody can be sure about such things. But if you have a solid conviction that it’s hopeless, that’s going to infect everything you say and do, and you’re not going to be an effective spokesman, or an effective fighter, and you should get out of the way of people who are unencumbered by hopelessness.
You might want to stay in the fight somehow, but if you don’t believe that victory is possible, you should get off the stage and cede place to somebody who does; because people who have that conviction are more likely to produce a victory than you are. If you’re really concerned about doing your duty, that’s the duty that you should perform.
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I agree with the second part. I believe it is hopeless, I confess. Actually, Fred reed’s recent article on Amren was perfectly rational to me, and I think he has it right. But there is a difference between thinking and KNOWING. We really don’t know whether it’s hopeless or not, and we must fight on even if there is a sliver of a chance! Remember in lotr when Sauron showed denethor the black fleet in the palantir, driving him into a suicidal despair! Don’t underestimate the duplicity of the Enemy!
Another point is, you help us. What is victory? It’s the good you do along the way. You provide a spiritual balm for lost souls by showing us there are others who share our plight and that a better reality is possible. We are not crazy, lol. In this way, the various website movements of the early twenty first century remind me of the spiritual schools of the late Roman Empire, stoicism, Christianity, Mithraism, etc. they provided people a spiritual refuge in a spiritually and physically turbulent time. John Morgan once said he sees himself as helping individuals, not running a political campaign, and I liked that stance. So even if you know this is hopeless, you would not be a grifter. We are all grifters somewhat, lol.
Another point is, what is victory? What does it look like? Even if we never control the US or have a “white homeland” whites will still exist. The “white homeland” is a place in the heart, and maybe we need a St Augustine moment together. Perhaps our role will be to guide the white race into a diaspora strategy by forging the notion of a delocalized white identity. Maybe this will happen spontaneously soon enough… There is no excuse for not being a shepherd to your people, no matter the outcome.
I leave off with these verses, the first from my Pledge to the White Flag, the next Arthur clough’s Say not the Struggle:
”But if our vow is not fulfilled,
And vanishes like smoke on the wind,
Our honor is we kept our pact,
With forefathers, progeny, and ken.”
Arthur Clough
Say not the struggle nought availeth,
The labour and the wounds are vain,
The enemy faints not, nor faileth,
And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;
It may be, in yon smoke concealed,
Your comrades chase e’en now the fliers,
And, but for you, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking
Seem here no painful inch to gain,
Far back through creeks and inlets making,
Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
And not by eastern windows only,
When daylight comes, comes in the light,
In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly,
But westward, look, the land is bright.
As somebody who struggles mightily with this, it is important to compartmentalize. Separate the (personal) individual from the (white) collective. A lot is made about the 14 words, with the supermajority of this movement being compromised of men (the vast majority being single and childless, perhaps permanently) and that leaves many of us feeling useless because we cannot control if (or with whom) white women want to procreate. So of course the most important thing a white male could possibly do is sire more white children, which requires a cooperative white woman.
But the next most important (and unspoken) concept an individual can do alone is to live a long, healthy life.
Remember, by simply existing you are foiling the enemy’s plans.
As loathsome as the Boomers have been at times they have fortuitously forestalled the timeline of the majority-minority takeover by simply being afraid of death. They are still the largest (and whitest) voting and working generation. It is like that quote from The Godfather II (‘Hyman Roth has been dying of the same heart attack for 20 years’).
Meanwhile, there is a silent revolution occurring in a metaphorical replay of colonial plagues because whites have seemingly adapted to this postmodernist pestilence (feminism, LGBT, promiscuity, college, low-fertility, substance-abuse/self-harm etc) having marinated in chronic exposure for decades, while nonwhites were insulated until now.
But the tables have turned because mere acute exposure to postmodernism (especially the last two years) has altered the ‘natural conservatism’ of all these different immigrant groups and nonwhite cultures within one generation.
All of these lofty demographic prognostications will have to be recalibrated because the calculus is changing for a variety of reasons.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/5-8-million-fewer-babies-americas-lost-decade-in-fertility
https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women
All you have to do is just hang in there long enough to witness the enemy fall into despair when they realize they are losing despite all the propaganda because the European family structure is weathering the storm. European culture is built to withstand this multicultural onslaught despite the recessive genes of whites vs dominant genes of nonwhites.
Jan-June 2021 vs Jan-June 2020 Births
Asian: 102,279 (-8%)
Black: 245,753 (-5%)
Pacific: 4,413 (-5%)
Native: 12,498 (-6%)
Hispanic: 409,941 (-3%)
White: 914,813 (0%)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr019.pdf
I remain agnostic on the question of whether or not we will win or even can win. But I might offer a “third position” between believing we can win, and staying around after thinking we might not, thus being a grifter or to satisfy an ego. It goes with what I said about Robin in “Why I write Part II.”
Even if I felt we were totally doomed, and essentially the Endlings of the White race, there is something to be said for raging against all the evil forces while knowing you are doomed. And there’s something to be said to stay among your own and let them know they are not alone in their thoughts and feelings.
Even if this were the end, I think I would stick around if only to spite our enemies and to make it as difficult on them as I could. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with going down with the ship knowing your fate is sealed. The last scene in Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid comes to mind. Of course it was ill fated, but surrendering was never an option. And that’s why we respect them.
The diversity propaganda is amost certainly not as anti-white down under as in North America but there are plenty of people waking up here all the same. I’ve helped wake up a few myself and by no means all single men.
Of course we can win and if we all struggle with all our being we will win. Once a white man knows the truth he really has no choice but to fight.
From my perspective we’ve been winning. We were always headed for the falls, we saw that 40 and 50 years ago, when some of our best defeatist minds insisted that the end was inevitable, and the best we could hope for was to slow things down a little. Because people were afraid of risking their names and livelihoods, or being forced to move to someplace like…West Virginia! (Joke.) Now we’re at the point where a substantial number of people realize we are truly under a terror regime (nationally and globally) that will readily steal elections and put us under martial law. We were going to reach this endpoint regardless, so all that doesn’t matter. What matters is that populace is now aware and alarmed. This is something we couldn’t imagine decades ago.
But even if I doubted this, I’d still have the moral duty to proceed as usual.
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