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World War III: Nazis vs. Nazis in The War to End All Nazis
As if the last two years weren’t sufficiently taxing, as if we all hadn’t had quite enough mental and social destabilization, the sinister and sadistic forces that pull the universe’s strings have decided to toss a new World War into the mix. Oh, great! I’m not sure we have enough collective sanity left to endure a battering of this magnitude. Exactly how bad is this going to get? Will this be the Worst War Yet?
Unless I’ve completely misunderstood my high-school education and pop-culture indoctrination, I was under the impression that the last World War, the one that ended nearly 80 years ago, handed a decisive loss to the Nazis. One of the most lasting effects of losing a war is having the very idea of your existence hard-welded to the notion of irredeemable evil. There’s a good reason why the bad guys always wind up losing the war, and only a fool or a liar would deny that the Nazis have been on the receiving end of some absolutely atrocious public-relations scandals since 1945.
Then again, perhaps the anti-fascists are right, because the Nazis are apparently still so powerful that the primary combatants in this potential new global conflagration are accusing one another of acting like Nazis, meaning that if this blows up into a global war, it will be Nazis fighting Nazis to rid the world once and for all of Nazis, which suggests very strongly that there are some questions that the Second World War left unsettled, some balances of power left severely tilted.
By invading Ukraine last week, hyper-macho man of steel and martial-arts enthusiast Vladimir Putin did something ballsier than anything Donald Trump ever did as President.
As much as the endless battalions of political know-it-alls strain to depict the struggle between Russia and Ukraine as a spiritual battle between traditionalist Christian theocrats and decadent globohomo dupes . . . or some abstract clash between vague cultural postulates such as East and West . . . this may be at base an ethnic war — a blood battle — and much less easy to remedy. As of 2001, Ukraine was composed of roughly four-fifths ethnic Ukrainians and one-fifth ethnic Russians, the latter concentrated in the country’s eastern regions, where Russian is predominantly spoken.
During an address on Monday when he recognized the pro-Russian eastern Ukrainian rebel states of Donetsk and Luhansk, Putin referred to “ancient Russian lands.” He has also referred to Ukraine as Russia’s “Slavic brother” and depicts it as part of the classical Russian Empire where Kiev is a foundational city in the historic Russian nation.
As to whether it’s a legitimate nation representing a unique people, Ukraine often gets the “Palestine treatment”; Steve Bannon recently snorted, “Ukraine’s not even a country. It’s kind of a concept. It’s just a corrupt area that the Clintons turned into a colony where they can steal money out of.” Alexander Dugin has said that “Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning. It has no cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness.” Even the most popular etymological explanation for the term “Ukraine” connotes “borderland” — i.e., no real land at all.
Ukrainian nationalists, whose people have suffered some of the hardest knocks of the past century, would beg to differ. If Ukrainians didn’t have a distinct identity 100 years ago, then the Holodomor, the Nazi occupation, and the Chernobyl disaster helped forged one of those uniquely ferocious collective identities that can only come from shared suffering.
If the Soviets didn’t think there was anything unique about Ukrainians, they wouldn’t have engineered a famine that completely knocked the spirit out of the country over the course of 18 months, killing anywhere from three to ten million people. They wouldn’t have destroyed the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and transferred its properties to the Russian Orthodox Church. They wouldn’t have discouraged the Ukrainian language and customs in favor of all things Russian.
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So it’s only natural that a nation that was officially born only three decades ago, whose leaders have had a tendency to wind up poisoned or in prison, a place whose people survived the most extreme famine and nuclear disaster of the twentieth century, who endured the worst that both Stalin and Hitler could throw at them, and who experienced the most heinous drug epidemic the modern world has to offer, would tend to breed tough people. With a population of only 44 million, Ukraine is the birthplace of the current heavyweight boxing champion as well as a pair of brothers who recently ruled the heavyweight division for about a dozen years — one of whom is currently the 6’7” Mayor of Kiev and has vowed to take up arms to defend his country. This is all too weird for it not to be real. It’s as if Sylvester Stallone had written a script for World War III, and it is finally being made into a movie.
Although, tragically, there were no Nazi boxing villains in the original Rocky movies, the plot twist in this new sequel is that each side is accusing the other side of being Nazis – indeed, they are accusing the hell out of one another of being Nazis. It’s almost as if they know that if they get the Nazi label to stick, they’ve already won the war.
When Putin announced his full-scale attack on Ukraine last Thursday, he said he had “decided to conduct a special military operation” for the “demilitarization and de-Nazification of Ukraine.” He also referred to Ukraine’s leadership as “a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis.”
During a United Nations Security Council debate last week, Russian Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia blamed the United States for sponsoring the 2014 Maidan Revolution, which led to the ouster of a pro-Russian president in Kiev, saying it enabled the rise of “nationalists, radicals, Russophobes, and pure Nazis” which culminated in the current conflict.
I’m not sure what sort of blood test they administer to determine if someone is a “pure” Nazi, but it’s a historical fact that the Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian militia that features the Wolfsangel in its logo and whose founder declared in 2010 that Ukraine is destined to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade . . . against Semite-led Untermenschen,” were formally incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard in 2014.
Although a 2020 estimate pegs the total number of Jews in Ukraine at around 43,000 — or one in every thousand citizens –, Ukrainian’s current President, Volodymyr Zelensky, is, as Stallone’s screenplay would demand it, a Jew. He gained fame on a Ukrainian sitcom called “Servant of the People,” where he played the bumbling president of an Eastern European country. He was born in a Russian-speaking section of Eastern Ukraine and claims that multiple family members died in the Holocaust while serving under the Red Army. He said this is why he can’t possibly be a Nazi:
You are told that we are Nazis. But could a people who lost more than 8 million lives in the battle against Nazism support Nazism? How can I be a Nazi? Explain it to my grandfather, who went through the entire war in the infantry of the Soviet army and died a colonel in an independent Ukraine.
On Thursday, after Putin’s tanks rolled into Ukraine and bombs started falling over Kyiv, Zelensky wrote, “Russia treacherously attacked our state in the morning, as Nazi Germany did in [the Second World War] years. As of today, our countries are on different sides of world history.”
Ukraine’s official Twitter account showed a cartoon of Hitler patting a smaller Putin on the cheek like a good boy (see above).
The veins in Nancy Pelosi’s neck stretched like frayed rubber bands when she compared Putin to Hitler and said,
[t]his is a very evil move on the part of Vladimir Putin. He’s a KGB guy who happens to be probably the richest man in the world because of his exploitation of his own people that he doesn’t want them to know about.
For his part, Senator Lindsey Graham lisped:
This is the 1930s all over again. What Putin did yesterday was tear up an agreement made 25 years ago. That’s exactly what Hitler did in the thirties. And the response to Hitler was one appeasement after another to the point that it got so far out of hand, that we had to act and that’s what created World War 2.
I’m pretty sure what created both world wars was the irreconcilability of nationalism and globalism, and if we’re ramping up for a third go-round, it’s the same unresolved problem.
Why everything always comes down to Nazis, though, I haven’t a clue. They’re clearly living rent-free in someone’s head.
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The Russia/Ukraine drama is dominating the headlines, but was it also a slow week in the negrosphere? You always manage to squeeze in at least one little tidbit from them.
Nothing Jim wrote on race this week could be as hilariously disgusting as the co-founder of BLM Patrisse Cullors piteously crying crocodile tears to children’s comic book The Guardian today about unspecified plans to ‘assassinate’ her (like gay black women aren’t one of the most protected groups in America), or even (SOB!) hold her to account for the missing multi-millions given to the ‘movement.’
Gay, sometimes homeless (she says), the first of her family to go into therapy (she says it like it’s college), birth daddy didn’t love me much, love, joy, peace, harmony, justice, blah blah blah, she sounds like a real nutcase. No wonder she collects fancy homes in white areas. “Be more nice to leaders!” She wails! Strap on your vomit bucket, it’s gonna be a gusher…enjoy!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/28/i-have-a-lot-of-resentment-patrisse-cullors-on-co-founding-black-lives-matter-the-backlash-and-why-the-police-must-go
One might have hoped that with WWIII liable to commence at any moment, the tedious BIPOC identity politics grievance-mongers would have the good sense and taste to pipe down for a bit.
In modern parlance, Nazi just means “bad guy”. I once had a run-in with an oldster who decried obvious shitlibs as “fascists’, and when I gave him reasons they’re not fascists, he just responded “well, fascist is a character trait.”
Really put things into perspective for me.
Ironically, it started right after the real Nazis and Fascists stopped posing a threat. From George Orwell in Politics and the English language (1946):
The word FASCISM has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies “something not desirable.” The words DEMOCRACY, SOCIALISM, FREEDOM, PATRIOTIC, REALISTIC, JUSTICE, have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like DEMOCRACY, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of régime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning. Words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. That is, the person who uses them has his own private definition, but allows his hearer to think he means something quite different. Statements like MARSHAL PéTAIN WAS A TRUE PATRIOT, THE SOVIET PRESS IS THE FREEST IN THE WORLD, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OPPOSED TO PERSECUTION, are almost always made with intent to deceive. Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: CLASS, TOTALITARIAN, SCIENCE, PROGRESSIVE, REACTIONARY BOURGEOIS, EQUALITY.
But Petain was a patriot, instead of letting his country be destroyed, he made peace with the stronger force, until France was able to regain its sovereignty. It’s a complicated story, but not only was Petain a heroic soldier in WW1, he remained so even in defeat to the Germans. Of course the Catholic Church, historically, was against “persecution”. The Church prevented the aristocracy from abusing the poor, spoke out against degeneracy and prevented foreigners, mostly Moslems and Jews, from gaining power and persecuting the population.
If Petain had tried to make peace with the Germans 1914-18 he would have been shot by the French as a traitor. He had men shot for refusing to face the Germans.
Why everything always comes down to Nazis, though, I haven’t a clue.
Surely you jest. You are too smart not to know.
HitlerNazis are the embodiment of evil, of course, but they are White men who were racists, and racists of the worstest kind, six million times worser than any other. And so making HitlerNazi the go-to universal emblem of univocally and irredeemably horrible horribleness serves all the enemies of White men and most of all, it serves the weakest and most vulnerable and most sufferingest tiny group that can ruin your life in a heartbeat.
Since HitlerNazis are White and racist, all Whites are HitlerNazis and racist. Even a child knows this…
I think the old man was posing a rhetorical question.
If nazis are facing off against each other by definition one will succeed. This still leaves dreaded nazis around. Unless they somehow mutually terminate each other nothing gets resolved. The horror 😐
Every single human being I know who swooned for Obama, and has not since cut me out of their life, swoons for Zelenski. Everyone I monitor of Facebook, who posted the BLM flag as a temp profile picture in 2020, has the Ukraine flag today.
On the reddit sphere, it seems similarly unanimous. Whereas I see pictures purporting to be stacked Russian corpses with all the comments cheering blood lustily about them “fucking around and finding out,” accounts of dead Ukrainians elicit outpourings of hat-over-heart emotion. These people are fanning the flames of world war, and probably don’t realize it.
There are BLM clowns with I Stand with Russia hashtags because Ukraine is full of “Neo-Nazis”.
Videos doing the rounds on leftist subreddit after leftist subreddit of “racist” Ukrainian border guards.
Liberal media talking about “white bias” because people care about that’s happening to Ukrainians.
If you want to play that game.
There is a great sense of nationalism in Ukraine that I wish to see propagated throughout the west. Russia offers no spirit and no idealism beyond the personality of Vladimir Putin. The only problem however is that Ukraine’s great nationalists are not in control of the country, but are instead used as battering rams by Jews against their Russian slavic brothers. Sound familiar?
As long as Russia continues to reconstruct its Soviet past and Ukraine continues to be governed by Jews, neither can be supported.
What makes you think that Russia is reconstructing its Soviet past? Putin has been slowly and steadily de-communizing Russia. Not as quickly or as decisively as I would prefer (he should bury Lenin in a common grave and destroy his mausoleum), but doing it nonetheless.
One of Putin’s first acts upon becoming president in 2000 was to convene a meeting at Stalin’s dacha at Kuntsevo to show the oligarchs who is boss. Okay, I understand and applaud his attempt to reign in these people. But couldn’t he have found a better model than Stalin?
I was unaware of that unfortunate and terrible choice. Putin should look to Nicholas I or Alexander III for a model ruler.
Soviet Union? Have you been underground for the past decade? Even Jim Goad references Eurasian Theorist and friend of Putin, Alexander Dugin, here. Putin seeks New Byzantium.
A good opportunity to view leftist distortions. When Trump won his election, there were endless discussions of the impact of Russian interference. When Trump lost, the election was fair and any question of this was a “falsehood”.
PBS Frontline used to be a bit less leftist, but does have an engaging review of Putin’s anger with Hillary Clinton and US policies that led to dissolution of the Soviet Union.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-revenge/
Also worth remembering that Russia was initially an ally to Hitler, having a non-aggression pact to annex chunks of Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, etc. including modern day Ukraine and Belarus. As you know Stalin changed sides after Hitler invaded Russia.
How much a threat is Russia and where should we rank them among rivals? Take a look at where they rank among the GDP rankings of the world’s nations. Russia lags far behind India, even behind Italy and Canada. They’re about the same as South Korea and Brazil, and only 20% more than Australia or Spain (still having a siesta through all this news drama).
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/268173/countries-with-the-largest-gross-domestic-product-gdp/
Russia is the World’s only other nuclear power. India’s GNP is totally irrelevant in the context of power. That they still poop in the streets doesn’t reflect well on GDP as an indicator of wealth either.
The current issue (Feb.-Mar.) of Fortune Magazine has an excellent graphic map of worldwide financial standings of countries, and whole continents when appropriate, as with Africa. This graphic (on the last page) really puts things in perspective. Needless to say, the U.S. is at the top, but not for long. Guess who’s at the bottom? Not Russia; nor is Israel listed, because though their people are the richest in the world, their money is held in privacy the world over, as I see it. However, you can make your own conjectures about what the graphic lays out. Enjoy.
I don’t think the size of nuclear stockpiles should be the sole measure of strength, which assumes any rivalry will be a nuclear war. GDP provides cushion against sanctions, recession, cartel prices, stock volatility, attracts high skilled workers. India has had a more consistent growth in GDP the past 50 years, while the Russian economy failed in the 90s, which is what led to Putin. Check out Louis Malle’s great 6-7 hour documentary “Phantom India” filmed in 1968. That fascinating ‘old’ India of Kipling, mysticism and pooping in the streets is vanishing fast, which makes the film an incredible time capsule. India still has alley crappers, but Russia has slums addicted to krokodil (daring you to do an image search – my favorite is the prostitute with the rotting leg posing as if she were Manet’s ‘Olympia’). https://www.news24.com/health24/medical/osteoporosis/news/graphic-this-drug-will-kill-you-within-two-years-20140709
GDP is not the only thing though, there is GDP-per-capita, natural resources, etc, and intangibles such as the unity and resiliency of a people (an edge there to Russia and China). See also Steve Sailer’s excellent “Unicultural Edge”. One commenter suggested Putin is a master of Communist ideology. Communism fell some time ago and modern Russia is at least partly a capitalist market economy led by a modern Czar of sorts.
Jackass has its place in the lowbrow realm… you’re not going to listen to all the Bach Cantatas back to back are you? But even dumb white guy jokers are forced to diversify, I think it fair for more well paid black groups to do the same (e.g. Fergie joining and usurping the Black Eyed Peas for awhile). We are in a low phase of art quality as the culture demands you have to throw a little bit of every ingredient into every recipe…. it all tastes like the same pap.
Why everything always comes down to Nazis, though, I haven’t a clue.
Well you gave a partial answer yourself: The essential problems (ethnicity, race, nationalism, Jewish control, …) are not resolved and history has been so much distorted, that we cannot see what the Nazis really fought for.
Historically it is absolutely stunning to compare the events in 1939 and now:
Hitler came to the defense the terrorized Germans left helpless in the new state of Poland, whose borders had been drawn without regard to language and ethnicity and whose government was emboldened by external western “guarantees”.
Putin defends the oppressed Russians left helpless in the new state of Ukraine, whose borders have been drawn without regard to the language and ethnicity, and whose government was emboldened by external western “guarantees”.
Nazis, shmazis. The Comanches were worse.
No, really. If the Injuns could invent ovens to put their enemies in, they would have but they weren’t even that good at pottery.
Something tells me it would have been so much easier if the National Socialists Workers Party in Germany led by Adolf Hiter had won histories past. Alas.
While this is happening abroad, never forget the thousands that are violently killed in America every month. The steady drumbeat of violence continues. Chicago, Houston, Philly. Baltimore, Milwaukee, Oakland.
Just a few stray observations here.
Hitler and the Nazis were in power from 1933 to 1945.
Russian Communists have been in power from 1917 until their fractured breakup in the early 1990’s — and a few are still floating around
So, 12 years vs. 70 years +-.
Nazis indeed did build horrid concentration camps, and we can accept the number of ‘6 million’ Jews specifically killed in these camps, along with myriad other dissenters and resisters from Nazi-conquered lands. I’ll have to spend hours adding up all the numbers from Eastern and Southern Europe, as well as Allied casualties.
But I contend that Russian Communism has the Nazis beat by a country mile, when it comes to death and destruction, mostly of their own people and other Slavic peoples. figure of Alexander Solzhenitsyn places the figure at over 100 million +-, of people shot, starved and worked to death in the Gulag Archipelago, which was the countrywide system of prisons, work farms and concentration camps, during the 70-year existence of the Communist Soviet Union. Solzhenitsyn spent the rest of his life, after being freed from the Gulag, in collecting stores and statistics of that horror.
So, here’s my view — Communism swamps Nazis atrocities by a country mile, and you can call me a Nazi until the cows come home, but call me a Communist and I’ll slap the shit out of you — and that certainly includes the current horror-master of Communist ideology and action, V. Putin.
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