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Announcing the Great DebateIs Race an Important Reality or a Fiction?
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Finally! This is the moment we have all been waiting for since early 2020. The debate between Jared Taylor and E. Michael Jones will take place this Saturday, August 21, and you are all invited!
Many people, even on the Right, claim that race doesn’t really exist.
E. Michael Jones has a Ph.D. in American Literature, is the author of numerous books dealing with the downfall of the West, is a prominent spokesman for Catholicism, and has a huge following on the Right.
When I heard interviews with him where he said things like “race is a fiction,” that only Christianity can explain the massive differences between Europe and Africa, and that language alone defines ethnicity, I immediately wanted to invite him to a debate at one of my events, because these are some astonishing claims!
And who better to debate him than Jared Taylor?
The original promo video can be seen on Odysee and BitChute.
Both men kindly accepted my invitation and were scheduled for a live debate at the Scandza Forum in May 2020, on the topic: “Is race an important reality or a fiction?” The promo video for the debate reached a large audience and the comments were on fire! This became one of the most anticipated debates of the decade.
But then COVID happened and it became impossible to organize live events because of the travel restrictions. Therefore, we were forced to postpone the debate until the restrictions would settle down again.
My latest update about the debate can be seen on Odysee and BitChute.
However, because the travel restrictions continue and there is no end in sight, I have decided to give in to harsh reality and host the debate online. Later, when the borders open up again, we will invite both gentlemen back to Europe and the Scandza Forum so that we can meet in person.
The good news is that you are all invited to watch it live as it happens! Not only will you be able to follow the debate live – you are also invited to participate in the Q&A with the speakers, which will take place directly after the debate. You can start sending your questions and comments now via Entropy by clicking the green button (“send paid chat”).
The debate will be LIVE on Saturday, August 21, on Entropy, DLive, and Odysee at: 1 PM L.A. / 4 PM New York / 21:00 London / 22:00 Stockholm.
Make sure to join us this Saturday for an unforgettable debate between Jared Taylor and E. Michael Jones on the topic: Is Race an Important Reality or a Fiction?
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24 comments
Jared Taylor will pummel EMJ like Tyson Fury thrashed Deontay Wilder.
Yea, no more mustache! Hopefully, we’re back to the traditional Jared we’re all used to with the black top and white sideburns. At least the photo seems to indicate such.
Probably an older photo. As of Monday, JT was still rockin’ the ‘stache. https://www.amren.com/videos/2021/08/our-rulers-never-learn/
Actually it is ridiculous that the biological reality of race has even to be discussed. From an idiot cultural Marxist one could expect such a need, but E. Michael Jones is no such Marxist fool at all. He has written some excellent books on the JQ, and appears to be eminently capable of critical and logical thinking. How he is able to combine intelligence with (part) idiocy is a mystery to me. Perhaps with his reverence for “Logos” he is too much of an idealist to accept some (unleasant) physical realities?
He’s said some titanically stupid things. He’s stated that there are three ethnic groups in America: Catholics, Protestants, and Jews. He’s also said that if it weren’t for Catholicism, Europe would be as backward as Africa. My sense is that he’s being used as a tool to steer people away from daring to think of race as a biological reality. And when Taylor makes him look silly, he’ll respond with his usual senile crankiness.
If he is a “tool” then he must be a tool of the Jews, but why then do they allow him to publish such works as “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit”?
I don’t doubt that such “tools” do exist. For example Jordan Peterson with his advice of “radical individualism” and discouragement of “identity politics” seems to be a perfect “tool” to thwart the rise of White Nationalism. But typically Jordan Peterson refuses to criticize the Jews.
(another “gem” of E. Michael Jones: “I am bi-racial. I am part-German and part-Irish”)
The Jews are more threatened by White identity than the JQ. The JQ is useless if it’s not wielded by a people driven by self-preservation. Otherwise, it’s just a collection of “conspiracy theorists” and “Internet cranks” who can be easily dismissed.
And I’ve seen non-racial anti-Semitism pushed in our circles. The Goyim Defense League is one such example. In the summer of 2018, they were trying to convince WNs to deemphasize race and focus on a pan-gentile coalition against Jews. I have no doubt that the GDL is completely astroturfed.
Well said.
Jim Goad: being used by whom? Who’s pulling the EMJ strings?
Agree or disagree, when you consider what an astoundingly independent and anti-establishment mind the man has, and how unafraid he is, this insinuation seems rather hilarious.
Oh, yes, you’re so right—saying “race is only a social construct” really bucks up against the establishment.
He criticizes Jews, but as religious rather than racial enemies. He believes they can “become” Catholic and cease being Jews. My hunch is that this is his usefulness to the Powers That Be—”They’re not a race, they’re a religion.” Pretty sure that’s known as the “Big Lie.”
And hey, it’s not as if the Powers That Be seem much more threatened by racially conscious whites than they do a bunch of Catholics. They’re letting millions of Catholics flood in through the Southern border every year.
I think enemy is a rather strong word. Maybe adversaries or nemesis is better. Also, I think it’s better to consider Jews/Judaism as a nation or people than a race given that there all sorts of Jews from a variety of racial backgrounds. I think Kevin MacDonald put it best by saying it’s an in-group evolutionary strategy. I have yet to read any of his books but it sort of captures in 3 words how diaspora Judaism operates. I can’t think of a better life than being born an Ashkenazi Jew in America. It truly is the most tragic of ironies that Jews have done so good in a country conquered and built by white Christian gentiles, the same white Christian gentiles who fought their Germanic cousins in two world wars, and yet most Jews have nothing but contempt and disdain for white people.
he is straight Jesuit intelligentsia, he just told you that all somalians become Frenchman if they become catholic, he is not only insane but hypocrite, race exists when he needs it to then it doesnt when he needs it to. He went to iran and USA whci his red flag but i wonder if he has been to Israel, if so that would clinch it that he is International level FED JEWOP
I’ve been saying for years that if we can get EMJ to admit that people exist we’ve got this thing in the bag.
I very much enjoy “Culture Wars” that EMJ publishes. This will be an interesting debate, because religious alliances among ethnic groups will be instrumental in the political outcome in western countries. Even if racial homogeneity will be the result, it will not be the antecedent in our circumstances.
There is a very sensationalist and esoteric article about E. Michael Jones which has enough specificity to make me curious about it. As I say, it may be the result of a fevered mind, but it is an essay with enough specificity to raise interesting questions about his influences and associations. I will look forward to this debate.
Interesting article, though the site as a whole is saturated with mostly unproven (and perhaps unprovable) conspiracism. I never know what to make of such people. Also, a lot of grammatical errors. Smart people tend to be editorially careful. (Note: I’m not a huge fan of EMJ, a Catholic conspiracist who thinks everything is the fault of Jews (for religious, not sociobiological, reasons) and Freemasons.)
I agree with your assessment of the tenor of the website. Again, it is the specificity that I find interesting, not the analysis. His connection to Iran and other organizations is interesting. A complex man like Jones should be appreciated in context, not written off because of doubtful associations.
However, and I observe this of 130+ schizophrenics, their tendency to over-correlate stems in part from an attenuated pattern recognition faculty. I listen to EMJ and read his books, so I give him the benefit of the doubt, but I won’t write down conspiracy theorists. Certainly not in an age when they are no less reliable than mainstream, measured pundits.
“he said things like ‘race is a fiction,’ that only Christianity can explain the massive differences between Europe and Africa, and that language alone defines ethnicity”
It’s always sad to see what never leaving a college campus can do to the human mind.
The benefit in this video debate will be in using it to red pill race deniers on Right.
We already know what each person is going to say.
Hopefully this can revive video debating on the right back to like around 2017.
I hope this will be recorded.
Your race is your father(s).
Anti-racism is to be against one’s father(s).
Racism is, in essence, the claim that one’s father(s) are better than all the rest.
Those “whites” who hate their father(s), whether legitimately or illegitimately, obviously cannot “win” in this grand game of “white supremacy.”
Anti-racism is their “natural” default position.
Hey, I don’t know if my old man is the best around (such comparisons are of little interest to me in any case), but he sure as hell is mine. That’s good enough for me.
To quote from Ben Shapiro, “Okay, this is EPIC!”
E. Michael Jones dossier
(A double agent?)
https://fitzinfo.net/e-michael-jones-dossier/
Idea for the next great debate: I’d like to see two people on the Right debate whether Europeans natural religion is Paganism (Freja, Thor etc) or Christianity.
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