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Jonathan and Wilma Hochstetler.

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A Mennonite couple was brutally attacked by black assailants in Bloomfield, Indiana last week. Jonathan and Wilma Hochstetler were fixing a work trailer when two armed black men approached them and demanded their money. The assailants robbed them and took the wife’s cellphone. As the robbers were walking away, they turned around and shot their two victims. Wilma died from her wounds but Jonathan was able to survive thanks to the help of his young son who dialed 911.

As of this article’s publication, the black assailants have neither been identified nor caught. Sam Hochstetler, Jonathan’s father, offered them forgiveness anyway. “I feel no hatred, bitterness, anger, nor revenge towards the two black men that murdered my daughter-in-law,” Hochstetler said in a letter he read before local media. “I extend forgiveness for the two murderers. Revenge only begets more violence. My heart’s desire for them is that they would repent, to fall on their faces before the Lord Jesus, and cry out for mercy for their own souls’ sake.”

He did say the two men would suffer eternal punishment if they did not make right with the Lord, but he also emphasized that he was not a racist. Why does the father of two innocent victims need to proclaim he’s not racist? The Hochstetlers are Mennonites, who are renowned for their deep faith and commitment to pacifism. It’s expected that the family would offer a similar reaction to such a horrible crime. Mennonites truly believe in turning the other cheek. But the inclusion of an “I’m not a racist” declaration transforms this statement into something off-putting. It’s also odd to offer forgiveness to two transgressors who have shown no remorse or feelings of contrition. They haven’t even turned themselves in yet.

Hochstetler’s response fits a pattern of white victims reacting to non-white aggression: just forgive and forget. This response, lionized by the media, signals that whites treat murder, rape, and robbery as just something we have to live with. The only thing we can do is to forgive and pretend there’s nothing we can do about it.

Another example from September demonstrates this strange mentality. Jordan and Aileen Stevens were a young white couple in Nashville who were expecting their first child. In mid-September, they were carjacked by a black career criminal who already killed one and wounded three others in a highway crime spree that morning. The assailant, D’Angelo Dorsey, ordered the two to drive to their home where he stole firearms from the couple. He then stole another car and forced the two inside. He executed Jordan Stevens in front of his pregnant wife and dumped his body along the highway. Dorsey later killed himself during a police pursuit; Aileen Stevens survived the ordeal.

This incident certainly traumatized the 23-year-old expectant mother. At a vigil for her deceased husband, she exhorted the crowd to let go of their anger. “People are angry. I’m not angry because either way it was going to happen,” she told the mournful crowd. She also said that both she and her husband prayed for Dorsey. “I think one of the biggest things that allowed this to happen was when Jordan told the man, he was like you know we’re going to pray for you, you’re going to go on and do what you need to do,” Stevens said. “After that moment [Dorsey] just kind of looked at us and just looked away and he was like you shouldn’t have prayed. You shouldn’t have done that.”

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It’s an odd statement — is she implying the prayer got her husband killed? In any case, the mother-to-be treats the incident like a natural disaster rather than a horrible crime. This was bound to happen; there was nothing anyone could do about it. It’s time to move on with life and hope the community can help raise her girl without a father. While not quite forgiving her husband’s killer, Stevens urges people to not be angry at the brutal criminal and just let it be. He is dead, after all.

However, other whites express similar sentiments about still-living aggressors. Indiana pastor Davey Blackburn forgave the black men who sexually assaulted and murdered his pregnant wife in 2015. Their 15-month-old son was in the house when the murder occurred. Blackburn said he hoped to share the Gospel with the killers. He later wrote a book about how he forgave his wife’s killers.

One of the most odious examples is that of Mollie Tibbetts. Tibbetts was a young Iowa college student who was raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant in 2018. Her family essentially defended their daughter’s killer from the real monsters: Trump supporters. Rather than following the example of Angel Moms who work to end illegal immigration following the murder, the Tibbetts family became ardent defenders of mass immigration and multiculturalism. They even denied their daughter was a victim. “Today, we need to turn the page. We’re at the end of a long ordeal,” Rob Tibbetts said in his eulogy of his daughter. “But we need to turn toward life — Mollie’s life — because Mollie’s nobody’s victim. Mollie’s my hero.”

Mr. Tibbetts lashed out at Donald Trump Jr. and others who highlighted his daughter’s death to show the dangers of illegal immigration. “[D]o not appropriate Mollie’s soul in advancing views she believed were profoundly racist. The act grievously extends the crime that stole Mollie from our family,” he wrote in an op-ed. He also apologized to the community responsible for his daughter’s death: “To the Hispanic community, my family stands with you and offers its heartfelt apology. That you’ve been beset by the circumstances of Mollie’s death is wrong. We treasure the contribution you bring to the American tapestry in all its color and melody. And yes, we love your food.”

Not to be outdone by her ex-husband, Mollie’s mother, Laura Calderwood, took in a friend of her daughter’s killer. The friend tried to persuade Calderwood to sympathize with her daughter’s illegal alien killer, which news reports suggest he succeeded in. The press celebrated the Tibbetts as the model for how whites should react to immigrant crime: get over the transgression and double down in support of demographic replacement.

The family of German teenager Maria Ladenburger responded in a similar manner to their daughter’s brutal murder at the hands of a refugee. They asked their fellow Germans to support a refugee charity in their daughter’s memory. For that magnanimous gesture, the family was awarded the prestigious “Citizen of the Year” prize from the Federal Association of German Newspaper Publishers in 2018.

Most readers will also probably be familiar with the case of Amy Biehl. Biehl was a white anti-apartheid activist who was savagely beaten and stabbed to death by black South Africans in 1993. Her parents forgave the killers and hoped they would use their energy for good in the future. The family started a non-profit to carry on their daughter’s racial activism. The nonprofit employed one of Biehl’s killers.

It is a bit unfair to compare the latter three reactions to the first three. Hochstetler, Stevens, and Blackburn turned to their faith and offered forgiveness without embracing Left-wing activism. Meanwhile, the Tibbetts, the Ladenburgers, and the Biehls practically embraced their transgressors and advocated for more social transformation. You would not have been surprised if Rob Tibbetts apologized to his daughter’s murderer.

There’s a degree of difference between these cases but they all ultimately come to the same conclusion: we’re forgiving the killers, this is just something that happens in life, and we can’t do anything about it.

This is in sharp contrast to how blacks react to any alleged transgression. We’re currently in the fourth month of social unrest over a convicted armed robber overdosing on fentanyl while in police custody. George Floyd’s family didn’t feel it was important to forgive the police officers — even though the case looks flimsier by the day — or talk about how much they care about Blue Lives. They politicized their relative’s death to advocate for their racial interests, as do many blacks. It’s hard to think of any black who hasn’t turned a transgression — whether it’s a “Karen” calling the police, a rude remark in a grocery store, or police shooting an armed black suspect — into a rally cry. None of these families ever offer forgiveness or act like their loved one’s death is just something that happens. They demand action to ensure that this “injustice” never happens again. Our society agrees and our elites shed tears any time a black person suffers an inconvenience. Elites believe we must transform our society so that black people will never suffer a police phone call or die while committing a crime.

There are some whites who do want to take action to ensure that the tragedy that took their loved one doesn’t happen to others. There are the Angel Moms who demand solutions to immigration in response to their relatives’ slayings. But the media usually ignores these families and attacks them for wanting to save other families from the grief they suffered. The New York Times will not lionize a mom who speaks at a Trump rally about her daughter’s murder at the hands of an illegal alien. But the paper of record will praise her if she forgives the killer and demands more immigration.

Some of this mentality is rooted in Christianity and elites certainly exploit the faith of whites to browbeat them into acceptance of horrible crimes. “Turn the other cheek.” “What would Jesus do?” “Love your enemies.” These are all fuel to pressure whites into submission. However, not every devout white Christian is going to say forgive and forget. The family of Cannon Hinnant, the young white boy murdered by his black neighbor, shared their deep faith with the media, but they still want the death penalty for their son’s murderer.

Whites are persuaded to forgive and forget because they’re told that that is what good people do. Good (white) people don’t hold a grudge against non-whites for transgressions. They don’t even call the police on them. They just focus on their own lives and try to make the best of things. Non-white violence and criminality are natural disasters you can’t control or do anything about. In some cases, they’re justified or deserving of your sympathy. If you want to be considered a good person, you have to accept this.

Only “bad people” don’t accept it.

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  1. MK-IV
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    These people don’t seem to understand that you can forgive someone without showing mercy. There must be a public, worldly debt to pay for transgressions just as there is a spiritual debt incurred on the soul. To exempt people from their deserved punishment for no reason other than cowardice of the wronged party is profane.

    • Lord Shang
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

      Thank you. These sick “Christians” are not really Christian at all, not in any theologically learned sense. They are just liberal “emoters” who have the genes for faith, and happened to have come from a Christian background, and found the religion as they understand it congenial, and thus stayed faithful to it. If they’d been raised in Hollywood instead of Mennonite country, etc, they’d still be race liberal weirdoes, but minus the Christian integument. Their “forgiveness” is a mockery of authentic Christian forgiveness, which, first, requires a display of repentance, and second, does not absolve the guilty party from the administration of punishment. Repentant souls can be forgiven, but criminal bodies must still suffer: that is how punishment was understood for millennia in the Christian West.

      What Hampton gives us are modern pathologically altruistic liberals in tattered Christian raiment.

    • Jaego
      Posted September 27, 2020 at 9:28 am | Permalink

      Or from another angle: You can’t forgive someone who isn’t sorry. Even God can’t/won’t do that. So to presume that one can is hubris of the highest order.

      And if they are? Well then it’s on you to do so perhaps – if you really can. The Old Russian Orthodoxy presented this as something to work towards or pray to attain grace to attain. The instant “I forgive you” of Whites yelling out to murderers in courtrooms is something very alien to this ideal, at once both humane and mystical. People who do this haven’t even grieved yet. How shallow their feeling are – or if deep, how out of touch they are with them.

  2. OMC
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    The murderers don’t ask for forgiveness, and if they did, how could the families of the deceased know they meant it? The murderer could be begging for clemency. The family can imagine that the killer feels regret, but that is not why families grieve. They grieve because a loved one is gone.

  3. HamburgerToday
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Whites forgive because they know no-one has their back if they don’t. So they internalize the value system of their aggressor. ‘Forgiveness’ in these cases isn’t forgiveness, it’s accepting that their needs are unimportant compared to their non-White aggressors. It’s Stockholm Syndrome on a massive scale.

  4. Ambrose Kane
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    This is an article that should be read by every White person, especially White Christians! I can’t begin to count the times I’ve been disgusted when Christians offer forgiveness to Blacks and Hispanics who have murdered their loved ones when these same murderers have not even offered a peep about seeking forgiveness.

    It’s one thing to not allow a root of bitterness against the killers to overtake one’s life (at least, for one’s own sanity and health), but it’s quite another to declare forgiveness for the perpetrators who brazenly remain unconcerned or even laugh about their deeds. Truth is, Christians who do this sort of thing are virtue-signaling. They are telling everyone how ‘holy’ and ‘righteous’ they are while cloaking it under the guise of ‘forgiveness.’ It’s actually the kind of religious hypocrisy that Jesus condemned among the Pharisees who do their religious deeds in order “to be seen by men.”

    I’d venture to say that most Christians have never bothered to think through the meaning and implications of forgiveness from a biblical perspective.

    Also, when Jesus spoke of ‘forgiving one’s enemies’ and ‘turning the other cheek’ was He really directing it to those who had just murdered one’s spouse or child? Or, more likely, was He speaking in hyperbolic form the need for Christians to express forgiveness and a non-retaliation spirit in the context of practical, everyday living? Is the principle of ‘turning the other cheek’ something we do during military warfare? Is this something the government is supposed to do when sentencing convicted killers, especially if it’s a professing ‘Christian nation’? Of course not.

    It seems to me that Jesus was talking about normal human relations, the sort of petty realities of everyday life in which hatred and jealousy arise among people. His words were not intended to be applied to unique criminal events and tragedies in which some low-life cold-heartedly murders others. Jesus offered heaven to the criminal who was crucified next to Him when he expressed faith, but he did not promise him exemption from the punishment the Roman authorities were inflicting on him. Also, Jesus never offered ‘forgiveness’ or heaven to the other crucified criminal who remained unrepentant.

    There is nothing in the words of Jesus or in the New Testament that teaches criminals should be spared judgment simply because they are ‘forgiven’ by their victims. And neither is there anything about the need for Christians to make public declarations of ‘forgiveness’ to law-breakers.

    I have no problem with personally forgiving criminal offenders who sincerely and genuinely seek forgiveness, and who do so not out of a desire to avoid a lengthy prison sentence. But how common is this, especially among the feral Dindus who roam our inner cities? But whether forgiveness is offered or not, they must pay for their crimes! This is necessary because (1) justice must be met, (2) it has the potential of serving as a deterrent to others (although it rarely if ever works for Blacks), and (3) dispensing justice is good for the order of society since citizens will rightly rebel against legitimate authority when they sense it’s not being served against those who have victimized them.

    All this Christian ‘forgiveness’ against Black and Brown murderers is just more proof of how far evangelicals have fallen to the wicked spirit of the age. It’s more evidence that contrary to what so many Christians profess – namely, that they resist the ‘ways of the world’ – they are just as guilty of succumbing to a Leftist and Satanic worldview as non-believers.

    • GC
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

      Well said, brother. As you have so well summarized, and as I have written in “The Sword of Christ,” these expressions of submission to Leftist orthodoxy, declarations of love for the beasts slaughtering our people, have nothing whatsoever to do with true Christianity. This is merely evidence of how thoroughly the Word of God has been bastardized and, indeed, weaponized, as Mr. Hampton pointed out in this piece. These people are not practicing Christianity. They are practicing the godless faith of the Egalitarian Regime.

    • GC
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

      And, I should add, once your heart and mind have become fully reprobate, gone over wholly to Satan, you slip from the realm of the human (in which forgiveness is commanded for personal disputes) and into the realm of the beast. Saint Augustine wrote that beasts who lack reason are excluded from this injunction. We do not owe these disgusting savages anything other than our contempt, and our unified will to remove them from our midst.

    • Lord Shang
      Posted September 26, 2020 at 12:10 am | Permalink

      Extremely well said. I find it hard to believe that you were ever a cop (no offense to cops, but the ones I’ve met were mostly good guys, but not esp bright; the few who were highly intelligent ended up doing other things after their brief stints in the police).

      I said (though not as eloquently) similar things in some comments here. “Turn the other cheek” was meant to avoid endless blood feuds of the kind common in much of the world, including the ancient (and modern) Middle East. It had nothing to do with ostentatiously parading one’s virtue (I call this “forgiveness theater”) in the wake of horrendous criminal tragedies. Christianity was classically a reasonable religion (no matter what its modern antagonists say). It didn’t expect the psychologically impossible. One did not have to be a saint to enter heaven.

      And even if one is a saint, that does not obviate the need for justice to be served (so the old Mennonite gasbag father’s “heartfelt letter of forgiveness” is morally irrelevant). Nor does it excuse his behavior, which can be likened to treason – giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. This type of treason, hiding behind misused or misunderstood theology, is nauseating. These forgivers are actually their own eccentric type of thoroughgoing postmodernists. Instead of opposing the antiwhite Zeitgeist as their faith demands, they warp their faith so it aligns with modern moral corruption, thereby placing other innocent lives in Negro-danger.

  5. Bobby
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    What ever “revenge” does or doesn’t do, it certainly ends the need for more of it towards the murderer’s once its exacted towards them and even then, it depends on the nature of that revenge. Everyone must have had the experience at one time or another, in which they were harmed by someone and reacted by “letting it go”. Funny how the experience still follows you around anyway, long before you “let it go”. Some psychologists, the more honest among them, call your problem “unfinished business”.

    • Bobby
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

      Sorry, I meant to say “long AFTER you let it go.”

  6. KatS
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Forgiveness and mercy are things we should give to our own. Offering them like unasked-for gifts to outsiders and alien enemies is simply weakness. Bobby is correct. Satisfaction sometimes requires vengeance, rather than forgiveness or “justice,” which has lost most of its meaning in this, our failing state in any case. This behavior among whites to “take the high road” might be my least favorite out of many terrible habits we collectively have.

  7. FrankC
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    To White Christians: What good is your religion if it makes you a coward, a weakling and a disgrace to your ancestors?

    • BjornThorsonn
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

      Yes, yes, yes!

      This article is very good, but one paragraph actually made me nauseous.

      “It is a bit unfair to compare the latter three reactions to the first three. Hochstetler, Stevens, and Blackburn turned to their faith and offered forgiveness without embracing Left-wing activism. Meanwhile, the Tibbetts, the Ladenburgers, and the Biehls practically embraced their transgressors and advocated for more social transformation. You would not have been surprised if Rob Tibbetts apologized to his daughter’s murderer.”

      This is NOT unfair. This absolutely ludicrous ‘turn the other cheek’ attitude displayed here is a complete mental disease that christianity has programmed in to the soft scull of this pitiful white people, a disease that the left has picked up and made their own.
      I do not care if they are virtue signaling christians or virtue signaling leftards. These two religions are a road to disaster, and display the very essence of anti-survival.

    • Ambrose Kane
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

      True, but what you are attacking is not Christianity, at least not in its historical and biblical sense. What you are attacking is a perversion, an outright distortion of Christian theology. Our Christian ancestors would have nothing to do with modern evangelicalism’s adoration of MLK, the racial diversity mantra, nor all the bleeding hearts who profess to be Christians that grovel before sweaty Dindus.

      You may not like Christianity, and even view it as some deceptive web that entraps innocent Whites. Perhaps you would encourage Whites to return to the religious paganism of their ancient ancestors as opposed to worshiping a Jew on a cross? Whatever the case, you are conflating Christianity with the nonsense of today that falsely passes as Christianity.

      Granted, there is a lot of justifiable criticism of contemporary Christianity with its love for all things Israel and Jewish, and with its constant cucking over ‘racism,’ but again none of this is authentic, New Testament Christianity. You’ll only find the Christian nonsense you despise in the Bible by twisting text after text of Scripture – the very thing modern Christians are guilty of too.

  8. Denim Wearer
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    What you never see is the contrapositive, ie whites advocating forgiveness for whites who have transgressed against nonwhites. There remains a healthy primal wrath in that context. This shows you that whites’ desire to forgive others is more rooted in some sort of collective Stockholm syndrome.

  9. James O'Meara
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    The idea behind “forgive and forget” is to free oneself from the burden of the past, not to allow criminals to get away free. It also forgoes vengeance, for “Vengeance is MINE sayeth the Lord.”

    In New Thought systems like Neville’s, one must “rise above,” be free of the burden of the past and present in order to re-order the future to one’s liking. Crowley and Evola, no Christians they, would agree.

    Another example of black behavior is the constant harping on slavery and the need for reparations. And of course, the Pharisees that Jesus was rebuking went on, after the destruction of the Temple, to create their own version of Judaism, with its constant calls for vengeance, punishment, “Never Forget,” etc. This is a people whose every “holy/holiday” memorializes a massacre of their enemies. In a further irony, these “forgiving” Evangelical types are also fervent Zionists.

    • Reb Kittredge
      Posted September 26, 2020 at 5:06 am | Permalink

      One could make a case that vengeance is justified, especially in the absence of law or the breakdown of law, as philosopher Peter French does in his books Cowboy Metaphysics (on western films) and The Virtues of Vengeance (which has a wider scope that encompasses Western, meaning European, literature). In the former, the western hero does not accede to the call to forgo vengeance (e.g. in The Searchers). The call to do so is a trait of weak, easterner Christians and shopkeepers who lack self-respect, and women. On this view “Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord” is an instance of slave morality.

    • Jaego
      Posted September 26, 2020 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

      Crowley and Evola eschewed Pacifism, especially the latter, gravitating towards the ideal of violence without hatred as put forward in the Bhagavad Gita. In his own way, Crowley did as well. The Book of the Law states, “As Brothers fight ye” and that “If a man is a King, you cannot hurt him”. Thus ideally the contest is between such spiritual aristocrats. But equally obviously, the lower orders must be kept in line.

  10. Rock N Roll Is Hu-Wyte
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    This happened only 20 minutes from where I was born. I never even saw a Black in my hometown.
    I’m furious.

  11. Rock N Roll Is Hu-Wyte
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Correction: The couple was from Bloomfield but were murdered on the west side of Indianapolis.

  12. Posted September 25, 2020 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    The overarching goal of these white victims seems to be to a refusal to even allow themselves or fellow whites to think about the possibility of opting out of multicultiralism. They seem to want this experiment to continue regardless of
    the price to themselves or other whites. It means more to them than anything else.
    How do we get through to them that multiculturalism and equality are quite ridiculous

    • Lord Shang
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

      They are evolutionary defectives. Their genomes must and will eventually go extinct. For our race to live, these defective whites must die off. They are evil, not intentionally, but functionally. They do not have the moral right to jeopardize others with their disgusting virtue-signaling, their enervating of the spirit of resistance to victimization, which is all this is. That holier-than-thou a$$hole of a Mennonite father is a self-righteous crapbag. He mistakes his mental as well as very public self-indulgence as an act of virtue. It is not. It is cowardice, and ‘forgiveness theater’. He is sending a signal to other savages, especially low-IQ ones lacking abstract moral conscience, that it’s acceptable to murder whites. This places other whites in danger. This old bearded gasbag really needs to be smacked “upside da head” for betraying justice as well as his own people!

      • Liam Kernaghan
        Posted September 28, 2020 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

        “This places other whites in danger”. All these so-called “liberals” are interested in is social status – virtue signalling – “keeping up with the Jones’s”, social climbing etc, etc, etc. This ultimately translates as power – power for it’s own sake and to Hell with the consequences, both for those pursuing it and for those innocents caught up in their path. I’m sure most self-identified “liberals” would score very highly on a test to determine traits of NPD – Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

  13. Petronius
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Horrible. Sickening.

  14. Ray Caruso
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    In a case like this, forgiving the murderers in the sense of praying for them to repent their actions and reconcile with God prior to their execution is Christian. However, calling for anything less than execution for them has no basis in Christian theology and shows a disregard both for your dead loved one and for the society you live in. Pacifists, whether of the religious or secular kind, are dangerous fools and would be denied citizenship in a society with a measure of self-respect. It should be, “If you are not willing to fight with us, you are not one of us.”

    • Lord Shang
      Posted September 25, 2020 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

      Both atheists and especially white nationalist atheists (and other WN anti-Christians) love to hold up these types of weirdoes as the “truest Christians” (something the weirdoes themselves no doubt delight in). This is nonsense. They claim to be Christians in the same way Bill Kristol claims to be “conservative”, but self-designations are hardly a guarantee of accuracy. What these types really are is the religious version of the “unconditional love” crowd. In Christian doctrine and history, there is nothing unconditional about God’s relation to man. Everything in that relation depends upon man’s conduct. Forgiveness depends upon repentance, and one sign of genuine repentance is the demand for corporeal justice – justice for the body, which means punishment (in this case, it would under traditional Christianity mean execution).

  15. ronehjr
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    “….the mother-to-be treats the incident like a natural disaster…”

    Treating black people like a natural disaster might be the closest most White can bring themselves to normal healthy racial feelings.

  16. John
    Posted September 25, 2020 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    -Firstly, Sam Hochstetler, Jonathan’s father, cannot forgive because he is not the one who was attacked.
    -Second, this forgiving stuff is embarrassingly weakness, hence, y we have a problem, y we r targeted. We will not survive unless we wake up & I c no evidence of that, in fact I c the complete opposite. Our ancestors would b ashamed at us. We have become a pathetic race. Only a suicidal race allows itself becoming a minority in their own homelands.

  17. Peter
    Posted September 26, 2020 at 5:17 am | Permalink

    99.99% of these forgiving christians would move to a White ethnostate as an alternative to a vibrant state. I.e.: they are just too lazy to be constructive, to find solutions. It is NOT the right reaction to leave these violent occurances without reaction. Vengeance maybe is not the right reaction but attempts to prevent such from happening must be the reaction. These “christians” don´t think in the direction of establishing White ethnostates as a reaction: but they would move there in in the blink of an eye if one was available! They are cowards, f**ls and hypocrites, that is the basis of their behavior, not morals. Like most Whites, they are too cowardly to admit to themselves that there are racial differences, but they would immediately take all advantages of a land without blacks.

    So what is this? It´s D.H. Lawrence´s “look at the actions, not the words”. And what is this? It is the good old Zen thing that our mind is unable to deal with the world in a useful manner while the body… something “unconscious”… IS able to do so! I.e. the brainwashed christian will of-course move to the land without blacks because instinctively, he, like everybody, knows that life is more safe there. And that is all generally the way that we can overcome this White pathology of pathological altruism: we Whites have this weakness but by listening to our bodies, we can overcome this weakness.
    So: voting with one´s feet! Trust your instincts: see where the ATTRACTION is. The body feels where it´s attracted to. The White person is attracted to the White ethnostate and WILL go there no matter how much bullshit is pressed into the head and that will hold true also of the named 99.99% of our so highly moral christians.

  18. pecosbill
    Posted September 26, 2020 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    This article reminds me of a novel I read sometime back. It was set in future America where the white population had dropped to thirty percent. Half of that thirty percent fit the description of the individuals discussed above; they had gone over to the other side against their own to survive or they simply became brainwashed.

    The action in the book begins in the city of Mandela (formally Baltimore). The main characters were a young white girl of about nineteen and her adopted father. The father as a sideline conducted guerrilla warfare against the state. The daughter, tired of black assaults and attempted rapes becomes a skilled knife fighter and as such knifed to death a number of black would be rapists. She continues her killing with guns, by hanging, crossbow, and once dragging a brown to death behind her horse.

    She tracks her mother to Los Angeles after mom disappeared with a group of blacks. She finds her mom pregnant with a black man’s kid after having given birth to another black kid. She tells her, “your womb is not exclusively yours, nor are your genetics”. Shoots her mother and the young mulatto to death.

    Related to this article the girl is a nominal Christian which has been outlawed by the One State, One Race agenda and she starts having guilt feelings about her wave of terror and killings. To put it in perspective her father tells her she didn’t kill humans, she killed those disowned by God for they themselves had murdered their own souls. Thus, being soulless, they were not human and her killings in self defense and in the defense of her genetics were justified.

    This was a novel and not advocacy for future action on the part of anyone, but a foreboding yarn about what could happen if we stay on this trajectory.

    • UncleBuck
      Posted September 26, 2020 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

      What’s the name of the book and author, please? I’ve been unable to find it anywhere.

      But as a Christian, I am flabbergasted by the weak-kneed, limpwristed, milquetoast foppery I see my fellow Christians engage in.

      This is not the religion that conquered the world.

      I talk with my mother about this all the time, and she tells me my hardline views are “not our religion”.

      It’s infuriating. I can easily refute her, but I don’t because it does no good.

      Boomercuck Churchianity’s cult of Hippie Jesus will only die when they do.

      • pecosbill
        Posted September 26, 2020 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

        The Salvagers: Survival In Apocalypse America by Terry Banks

        It’s a long book but the ending is very satisfying. Not specifically Christian but the implications are in the undertow of the adventures of the young girl and her adopted father. Some scenarios are a little far fetched but others are like we are experiencing today in the current breakdown.

        Amazon link:

  19. Henry
    Posted September 26, 2020 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    Stories like these make me think that most whites truly deserve the reckoning that is coming for us. The ones who are most likely to ignore and tacitly condone the murders of their family members because the murderer isn’t white are also the ones least likely to prepare for what is coming when whites are outnumbered, and perhaps that’s for the best. When the dross is gone only the iron remains.

  20. ClassActionRacialDivorceAttorney
    Posted September 26, 2020 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    I saw the recent case, (9/21-9/22 in roughly 90% White) Struthers, Ohio in which two young (20/22yr old) White girls were hanging around two ghetto monsters. The one White girl, Alexis Schneider, was so stupid that she brought her four yr old White son, Rowan Sweeney, with her to the negro drug den. Long story short, it now appears that one of the girls’ young bucks set up their other buck to be robbed of his cash and drugs by a third buck. Third buck entered the house at 2am demanding the goods while holding a pistol to the four year old’s head as the stupid coal burning pig of a mother shouted at it “don’t kill my son!” Well, the robber buck fired two rounds at point blank range into the boy’s head, shot the other two animals up pretty good and shot the two stupid White whores each in their legs before running off. Last I checked, all four adult “victims” are alive. Rowan Sweeney, the four year old White boy, and only true victim, is dead.

    The robber/killer buck eventually turned himself in thanks to the “mentorship and guidance” of a nice, presumably White, Christian couple who for some time had been trying to save the nigger from his genetics by preaching liberalized judeo-christian mumbo-jumbo at him. They apparently had bought him the cellphone that he used to text back and forth with the inside man to set up the robbery which, I assume, is what led police to him as the prime suspect.

    Mind you, I had to scour five pages of search results from the past week since the crime occurred in order to piece the relevant information out of a dozen different news stories in order to make sense of what actually transpired. So far, the way I have just layed it out is the most accurate and comprehensive telling of the story that you will see. This is but one reason so many of our ppl appear to be hopelessly delusional.

    Another case I saw not too long ago was in Florida. A 36 yr old White woman was murdered at a gas station two miles from her home. In one news report the dead woman’s husband/boyfriend was quoted saying that he had warned her multiple times not to go to that particular gas station, especially at night. He insisted that she frequent a different gas station in the opposite direction from their home that he, probably correctly, thought to be safer. The husband/boyfriend described how she would roll her eyes at him whenever he would remind her of the dangers of said establishment. Well, she obviously thought herself a strong wahmenz and she didn’t need nobody mansplaining to her… and now she’s dead at the hands of the local feral dindu menace.

    That the media is allowed to wage psychological warfare against us 24/7 under the guise of the first amendment is perhaps the greatest, most evil and truly sinister, crime against humanity to have ever been perpetrated in the history of mankind. Hell is too kind a punishment for them.

    • SRP
      Posted September 27, 2020 at 8:27 am | Permalink

      Thank you for taking the initiative and doing this research, good work. It’s labor intensive.

      I guess the best thing you or anyone can do is summarize the links and email them to Flaherty and others with sites so they can re-broadcast.

  21. J. K.
    Posted September 26, 2020 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    If only some prescient soul had pulled Jesus aside and said, “Listen, I love you, man, but enough with the fucking hyperbole!”

  22. Jaego
    Posted September 26, 2020 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Christianity from its earliest period was an other worldly religion that was against the martial ideal of old Rome. Thus Gibbon in his “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” named its rise as one of the chief reasons for the fall of Rome. Did Christ teach pacifism? The evidence is mixed, with sayings and actions on both sides of the issue. We have no idea. We really know little of what believed about anything – and that is bizarre in itself. But the other worldly ideal seems to have been paramount in any case, until Constantine had his supposed vision at least.

    Read “The White Man’s Bible” by Ben Klassen or Chechar. They are relentless in naming Christianity as a big part of our decline. They make a good case though obviously there are Christianities that are healthier. But are they authentic? Or are the modernists closer to Christ’s social ideal? Did the Romans and later the Germans, Celts, Greeks, and Slavs adapt Christianity to their needs, the martial most definitely included? Again, we don’t know. We know what Krishna, Buddha, and Mohammad thought about these issues, but Christ? No one ever bothered to write down what he thought about them. Or he never talked about it.

  23. Alexandra O.
    Posted September 27, 2020 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    When you are dealing with mentally-deficient people who shoot other people for no reason and with no remorse, revenge is the only thing they understand and the only way to deal with them. Unfortunately in this country today, and in much of Europe as well, otherwise intelligent well-educated people are glorifying these mentally-unfit creatures, and not only forgiving them, but excusing everything they do as an imagined outcome of ‘racism’ on the part of the victim. But thanks to ‘Liberation Theology”, all Christian-based churches, including the Mennonites, are now on board with the ‘pathological altruism’ of forgiveness. I wonder what the real belief system of the Medieval Christians really was when they were sending Crusaders to the Holy Land, etc. There is such a thing as ‘real’ Christianity and fighting for your faith, but it’s been swamped by the “Forgiveness Doctrine” ruling over common sense today.

  24. Mac
    Posted September 27, 2020 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    The way these people talk about these violent attacks by negroes is reminiscent of how survivors of shark and bear attacks talk about their ordeal. It’s heavily implied that they have no agency at all, they’re just feral animals acting on instinct, yet paradoxically they must be treated as moral agents. If any species of animal killed even a fraction of the people non whites kill on a regular basis they’d have been driven to near extinction a long time ago with little to no hand wringing. Unlike actual animals, though, brown people are totally pathetic and everyone knows it so they’re the perfect vessel for these types of people to virtue signal about, it’s totally cynical and dishonest.

  25. kerdasi amaq
    Posted September 28, 2020 at 5:13 am | Permalink

    Who wants to live in a state of perpetual warfare? Pagans?

    Once upon a time Christian white America knew how to deal with the perpetrators of such outrages. Modern-day libtards cringe at the memory.

  26. JD
    Posted October 4, 2020 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    White people can do anything if they put their minds to it, including justify not only being murdered by other races but being absorbed into a mixed race population. Faustian in life and death.

  27. R-ang
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    Christians tend to forget Jesus also whipped merchants out of the Temple and beat other who spouted nonsense. Think back of the Crusades: Christians were turning the other cheek for a long time before they eventually retaliated. There’s only this much abuse a person can tolerate and once you’ve awakened a titan, there’s no stopping him!

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