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It’s All So Tiresome:
Cypher, Ramzpaul, & the Purple Pill

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I’m tired, Trinity. I’m tired of this war, tired of fighting, tired of this ship, being cold, and eating the same goddamn goop every day. But most of all, I’m tired of that jackoff Morpheus and all of his bullshit.

— Cypher

There was a time in my life where I wore a black leather trenchcoat and sunglasses every day of the week. Even in summer. Especially in summer. It’s easy to wear a black leather trenchcoat when the wind blows high, but only true believers will wear this garment under the searing Mediterranean sun. Some things you do, despite being stupid and counterproductive, to signal something. In my case, I was signaling my adherence to the aesthetics of The Matrix.

We get the term “redpill” from The Matrix. It is enculturated enough that anyone who uses the term but then feels the need to explain that it comes from The Matrix sounds like an old man. It feels like reading a newspaper article about the internet in 1997. To become redpilled, to be a red pill, means to emerge from a manufactured reality and become aware of a different, higher-order reality. A darker reality. A reality which, frankly, seems to be evil.

We refer to the Matrix, or to the shared delusion of our time, as a dream state. Lemme tell you something about dreams — nobody likes to be awakened from them. Just last night, three beautiful women with wide, child-bearing hips were singing merry songs about my sexual prowess, and then in an instant — sunlight, a full bladder, and a noseful of my own morning breath. Sure, there are the ones where you’re naked in school, falling, or where you are being chased by an indeterminate, threatening something, but overall, dreams are nice and reality stinks.

When serious thinkers analyze The Matrix, they rarely mention Cypher. Masterfully portrayed by Joe Pantoliano, Cypher is the guy who’s taken the red pill, but hates himself and Morpheus, who gave him the choice for it. Now, we’re obviously supposed to hate Cypher for betraying his people and for choosing ignorance over the truth, but let’s not pretend that he doesn’t present a very compelling case for the blue pill. As Morpheus says to Neo before Neo is about to take the red pill: “All I offer is the truth.” The truth, as is often said, hurts. But everyone assumes that once you learn the truth, you can’t unlearn it.

People feel malaise at the world because they understand that it is a lie, that it is inauthentic. That a movie like The Matrix was produced, became enormously popular, and has greatly influenced culture and language is a testament to that fact. Even normies feel that something is off, that this is not how it was supposed to be, that they were somehow lied to, betrayed, that things are not as they appear. And thus, we have a demand for red pills.

But as we said, the truth hurts. Furthermore, success in any society depends upon pointing deer and making horse. In order to demonstrate compliance with the ruling ideology, you have to say and do very stupid and counterproductive things — some even stupider and less productive than wearing a black leather trenchcoat in the middle of summer. But fear not. The marketplace of ideas has come up with The Purple Pill™, which both addresses your malaise at having to live in the shared delusion we call the official narrative and defends against the existential pain and social leprosy which are known side effects of the red pill. Enter the alt-lite.

Bear in mind that I’m not accusing any of these people of being controlled opposition, federal agents, or paid shills. No, they are successful and their product exists because their product is superior to ours. I’m selling red pills, which means you get to feel small and powerless in a world that hates you and wants you dead, and if there is to be victory, it will come at incomprehensible costs, so far into the future that even the young bloods among us will only taste it as old men. This is all assuming we don’t lose and suffer the repercussions of standing against the prevailing orthodoxy. Dissent isn’t fun if you’re a real rebel. Contrast that to what a guy like Cernovich or McInnes is selling: you get to be the cool bad-boy rebel, but at the same time be relatively within the Overton window and thus escape more serious repercussions. Well, Cerno and McInnes can escape repercussions. The Proud Boys won’t. But that’s a tale for another day.

You know what’s even cooler about the purple pill? It gives you a very clear friend/enemy distinction; it makes all problems solvable by increased coordination and effort (which also gives you a secret weapon in the internal fights — failures can be blamed on the egotism or laziness of your compatriots). In fact, stopping to think if you’re fighting the right fight is very counterproductive — winners have no self-doubt. Usually, I link to an article where I already made my point to keep newcomers abreast of the older ideas, but this time I want you to read the comments. One guy asks me that if we can’t win by losing, and that we will inevitably lose by winning, then what the hell do we do? You’ll notice that I haven’t responded. It’s because I have no idea. All I can truly offer you is either the truth, or my honest uncertainty.

“But once we’ve redpilled the normies,” you say to me. Well, ok, we redpilled them. Cypher was also redpilled and then he was so disturbed by the reality of the red pill that he ran to the Agents and betrayed his friends in the hope of getting his memory erased and getting plugged back into the Matrix. So, how are you gonna keep them redpilled, especially when the red pill may as well paint a gigantic target on their backs, and we don’t have the resources to protect them? And don’t forget that a man can very easily forget things he knew, even things central to his old worldview, if it is beneficial to him. Especially if it’s psychologically beneficial to him. Money is meaningless, but respite from the psychic pain of being a dissident loser? That has a hell of a lot more value than mere dollars and cents.

Enter Ramzpaul.

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The whole drama with Ramzpaul began with the corona lockdown. He was against it. He fought with Tiina Wiik, his Happy Homelands co-host, over it. At the same time, he blocked the Scandza Forum on Twitter because they were “white supremacists.” And then he engaged in a campaign to equate measures against corona-chan to soyboy snowflakeism. And then he retooled his Happy Homelands show by taking on fellow lockdown opponent Styxhexenhammer666 as a co-host. And then he invited Milo Yiannopoulos. Milo ghosted him, apparently because he and his entire “family” were sick (but Corona-chan ain’t real, folks). Then he had Laura Loomer on. Then he had Gavin McInnes on. Do you see where this is going?

Being a young white man, I have no particular attachment to the economy. In fact, while it is not 100% correct to call the economy a massive con job run by the old, nonwhites, and women on young white men, it is a good enough heuristic, and living your life as if it were true is a good way to extricate yourself from modernity. In fact, “crashing the economy” sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Now, some of the older white guys, specifically of Ramzpaul’s generation, were grandfathered in and have a stake in the economy. Naturally, they feel disgusted and horrified that the young bloods no longer want to be chumps.

I was never that scared of Corona-chan, either. Believe you me, reader, I know my way around rowdy oriental women (hint: they find black leather trenchcoats irresistible). One of the side effects of the red pill is that you might get denounced by your family and friends for daring to claim that the horse is a horse. Sometimes, they denounce you bad enough that you are eerily ambivalent about whether Corona-chan decides to whisk them away to the other place. And then you hate yourself for it and have another whiskey, for tomorrow we shall do it all over again.

But here, I’d direct you to the Z man of the Z blog who has likewise expressed skepticism towards the wisdom of the lockdown but without losing his mind. Z has problems of his own — failing to appreciate just how little “the economy” means to young white men — but at least he doesn’t debase himself by nodding inanely as Gavin “I french-kissed Milo and stuck a dildo up my ass to show I’m not homophobic” McInnes denounces Nazis (who are secretly all Feds) and proclaims his undying love for Israel. Skepticism of the measures our government takes to fight Corona-chan is valid. Skepticism of Corona-chan’s lethality is valid. Going full alt-lite isn’t.

In fact, here we see the core difference between alt-lite and Dissident Right. What are we fighting for? Our people? Or our Freedumbz™? More importantly, who’s the enemy? A Satanic pedophile globalist cult run by Hillary Clinton, George Soros and Bill Gates, which may or may not include Jews qua Jews; or a distributed, decentralized coalition of minor interest groups (one of whom may be Jews qua Jews) each trying to get a handle on the greasy levers of power, in which groups compete against each other but can cooperate to undermine anyone trying to insert sanity into the system, most members of the coalition unaware or only partially aware of the existence of the coalition or their membership in it? I think you can figure out which form of the enemy is easier to contend with, and therefore, more amenable to packaging in the purple pill.

Corona-chan doesn’t have to steal your Freedumbz™. Globohomo has already taken everything of consequence from you. 2nd Amendment guys like to beat their chests about how they’ll use their guns to protect what is theirs, but far more important for military success than guns is social organization. And you don’t have the right to organize the way you choose to. The Civil Rights Act took away the freedom of association, and with it, the makings of a militia capable of protecting anything. When you have no organization, your guns count for nothing. All you can really do is play “Fortunate Son” as the government burns your house to the ground, Waco-style. But five unarmed men with a functioning organizational structure and clear friend-enemy distinction? There’s no end to the damage they can do to globohomo.

And what of your freedom to go out and work? That’s a freedom? People are empowered and ennobled by toiling away, building someone else’s dream? Give me a break. Globohomo wants you working, white man. You have to toil in the fields so that fat POC women can have 10 children by 15 different fathers. You have to sit in a stuffy office, bent over a desk, so that the hens in HR can have someone to torment and get paid to do it. You have to address stuffed shirts as “sir” because some obese boomer needs his Social Security, retirement stonks package, or whatever. Globohomo also wants your wife working, and not giving birth to white babies, cooking meals for the family, and turning the house into a home.

But this is not about truth. It’s about packaging a compelling narrative which eases the malaise of living in the simulated reality, whilst maintaining the illusion of normalcy — or at least allowing the user to feel normal. So, yes, railing against an evil Satanic pedophile cult that’s coming after your freedoms will have to do. You might even want to have valiant Donald Trump doing his darnedest to protect your freedoms from said evil Satanic pedophile cult, because people like their golden-haired heroes. While we’re at it, why not throw in Donald Trump’s plucky sidekick Q. Disney shows us that people respond well to plucky comic relief sidekicks.

Ramzpaul isn’t the first Cypher of the Dissident Right. Ryan Faulk of the Alternative Hypothesis tried dialing it back and instituting an egopolitan Faulkland (or so Travis LeBlanc would have you believe). But Alt-Hype fizzled out because his heart wasn’t in it. His heart wasn’t in it, because there was no alternative narrative to latch on to, except the stupid and autistic one he concocted himself. Trav LeBlanc nuked that narrative from orbit.

But our good old friend Ramzpaul is smarter. He latches on to the existing alt-lite narrative of Satanic pedophiles and imperiled freedumbz. His new friends Styx and Gavin are there to greet him with open arms. And yes, we’ll see Ramz sit through many inanities with the Loomers and McInneses of the world for the same reason I wore a black leather trenchcoat in the middle of summer: If you wanna be part of the team, you gotta play the part. If it means unlearning what you learned, unknowing what you know, and un-taking the red pill, it will entail that.

It started with corona, but it’s not about corona. It’s about being tired of fighting, tired of being demoralized and demonized; it’s about the pain and suffering inflicted by globohomo on dissidents. By alienating us from the social fabric, globohomo injures us in ways that aren’t easy to bear. Our ancestors charged into machine gun nests and took them by storm, but they had the full backing of their society, and they’d have received a hero’s funeral in the worst-case scenario. Whatever we do, we do alone, except for each other. If we fall, few will mourn for us. If I am hit by a bus tomorrow, I doubt many of my former friends will show up at my funeral.

As things get more real and the pressure mounts, expect more Cyphers — and more high-profile Cyphers. Sadly, not all of them will be obese embarrassments like Matt Heimbach. Some will be respectable and affable men like Paul Ramsey, older guys whose grounding and guidance are direly needed in a movement full of young bloods. Above all, understand that deconstructing the purple pill is paramount to our success. The purple pill is a chance for our guys to make a separate peace with globohomo the second their resolve wavers (and their resolve will waver). If our movement is to succeed, it must be destroyed.

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  1. HamburgerToday
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    As is often the case, an excellent essay from Mr. Jeelvy. Among OG Evangelical Christians, it’s called ‘back-sliding’. From the perspective of our enemies, we’re heretics, not political dissidents. Perhaps that’s how we should think of ourselves. Less philosophy, more prayer? In ‘ Irish John Waters in Lapsed Agnostic makes a good case for prayer as a way of staying the course…and encouraging ‘luck’. While I think the overall direction of our culture is toward conditions that make universal ethnonationalism (aka ‘balkanization’) inevitable, many of may be old or dead before ‘inevitable’ arrives. Is White Nationalism a holy mission? I think it is, other White advocates in the past thought it was as well. Trying to make a holy mission into an actual religion — to establish a church — is a different story, but doing so isn’t as necessary as accepting the commission of being a heretic and a believer.

    • Vauquelin
      Posted May 5, 2020 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

      Patrick Pearse called his fellow Irish a “holy people” while highlighting their uniqueness and cultural, historical, even ethnic “apartness” from the English. To me, the Irish are a model for all ethnic uprisings. What they did to cast off the yoke of a hateful empire that tried to annihilate the Irish blood, language, identity and culture should serve as an example to the white nationalist struggle. And that includes the Irish use of religion in said conflict. Pearse was religious, and of course the conflict is often depicted as a religious one between Catholics and Protestants, but I consider religion a mere garnish on a buffet of nationalistic and cultural struggle that was the Anglo-Irish War. This shows it’s possible for a people to have an ethnic uprising with a religious tone, without turning it into a bunch of Deus Vulting neo-Crusaders who place Christendom over Nationhood. Is this struggle Christian or Nationalist? The winning answer is: this struggle is ethnic, and our ethnicity wins by using Nation in one hand and Christ in the other in order to overcome.

      • HamburgerToday
        Posted May 5, 2020 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

        If I have White people, it would be possible to reconstruct Christian ethics and morality (at least to some extent), but I cannot construct White people out Christian non-Whites. Christianity is a ‘nice to have’ and feel that Christians have a place in the White Ethnostate (perhaps their own cantons). However, today, I think that physical White People are a material anchor of a spiritual ‘Whiteness’ that transcends time and space but requires White people for instantiation.

        • Alexandra O.
          Posted June 1, 2020 at 5:46 am | Permalink

          I agree with your comment that Christianity only works as constructed by and for White people. The biggest mistake of contemporary Christians is their excessive and manic missionary work. I left Christianity completely when Leftists took over with ‘Liberation Theology’. I still adhere to 7 out of 10 of the Ten Commandments, which are the basis of morality for any thinking person, and it certainly shows up the absurdity of trying to Christianize the non-whites of the world, whose brains cannot wrap around the morality concepts.

          We just saw a perfect example yet again this past week (May 26-31) with the looters during the riots — I’d bet that 90% of those looters had been raised in ‘Christian’ households, but the morality had just gotten lost in their scrambled brains.

          • HamburgerToday
            Posted June 2, 2020 at 7:01 am | Permalink

            Among non-sophisticated Christians (not a jibe, just an observation), ‘Christianity’ has been distilled down to ‘forgiveness of sins’. As long as this remains the core message of ‘Christianity’ all kinds of perversions and ‘back-sliding’ will present itself for ‘forgiveness’. This is how all the trappings of lefty intersection perversion have been encompassed within ‘Christianity’. I see Whites who claim to be ‘Christian’ exercising no more self-control (in their own contexts) than the ChimpOut Crew in Minneapolis and elsewhere. From my rather esoteric perspective, religion is about binding ‘magic’, about harnessing people’s experience of (or at least belief in) the supernatural. This is why, in the end, there’s no function difference between snake-handling and the Eucharist from my perspective. They are both meant to show the ‘priest’ has the power to command ‘the supernatural’.

  2. A German
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    We could have closed the borders if not for people like Ramz Paul. I am so sick of the people thinking the German government does a good job. Border protection would have been a good job, but nobody talks about that. The economy bros are right in that this will have devastating impact, but they just ignore that their attitude was the reason. Ramz Paul won’t be missed.

  3. Ian Smith
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Ramzpaul made a video where he put a picture of Anne Frank into his oven while making Mr. Bill noises. If anyone can dredge that up, that’ll kill his ascent in the alt-lite real fast.
    I remember he did a review of Netflix’s Haunting of Hill House where he claimed his basement was haunted. I stopped taking him seriously after that.

    • Adrian
      Posted May 6, 2020 at 3:25 am | Permalink

      Anne Frank haunts my basement.

  4. Arthur Konrad
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    “In fact, “crashing the economy” sounds like a pretty good deal to me”

    Mr. Jeelvy, if you don’t specify what “crashing the economy” exactly means, in concrete terms, then unfortunately, this kind of bravado cannot be taken seriously. “Crashing the economy” could be the part of every imaginable scenario. For example, Bolsheviks “crashed the economy” – and established 70 years of Bolshevism.

    It can also be said with certainty that no other powerful society in the world will follow the West in its valiant enterprise of conjuring a depression of the century. That the rest of the world will revert back to picking cotton because they will loose Western markets perhaps makes sense in the wildest MAGApede fantasies, but the more vigilant part of the non-Western world is in fact preparing for that eventuality, nay, they a preparing to do away with the West if necessary and possible. You don’t think that Muslims are invading Europe to inherit the Venice commission and gay weddings?

    • Posted May 5, 2020 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

      This is a question which may merit an article of its own. Briefly, I don’t think something as large and as complex as the economy can be “crashed.” Seeds won’t get unsown, sheep won’t lose their wool and milk, goods will not get unproduced because some big line went down. Rather, there’ll be a scaleback of demand and a scaleback of supply and a liquidation of toxic and stupid assets, insofar as there are no bailouts as in 2008. Not pleasant, but not fatal. Could be the jolt we need.

      • Arthur Konrad
        Posted May 5, 2020 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

        Scaling back growth is another thing indeed, but as far as “crashing” economy — let’s define it simply as the inability of the market to further supply on its own the basic needs to the majority of the population. This without exception results in more centralization and more Statism, even if the government maintains its basic defensive capacities. Who will be the “state” in such Statism? This is the question that I would like answered. For now, as usual, a lot is demanded from the people, and the only promise is more power to the elites. I hope that we will not contest the fact that the ability to censor, restrict, trace, record, demonetize and impoverish the population represent very tangible powers.

        • Posted May 6, 2020 at 1:03 am | Permalink

          Which powers the elite already possesses.

          • Arthur Konrad
            Posted May 6, 2020 at 2:52 am | Permalink

            There’s a stark difference between implicit powers and an explicit policy. These things threaten to become the routine policy, and the lack of opposition can only facilitate the transition. This is not a time to be inept.

            • Posted May 6, 2020 at 5:23 am | Permalink

              Opposition to implicit policy can be deflected by credibly claiming that the policy doesn’t exist, or isn’t formal. “It’s a private company.” Explicit and formal policy can be opposed. Please read my articles on Biden and formalism, or listen to my interview on the c-c podcast.

              Fighting the explicit is like fighting a bear. Fighting the implicit is like fighting a shadow. At least you know where and what the bear is.

  5. Mark
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    A well written article but it omits important facts about Ramzpaul.

    In 2014 he did a friendly in-person interview with Harold Covington that promoted Covington’s work. This video was removed from Ramzpaul’s YT channel but can easily be found through a google search. Anyone unfamiliar with Covington’s stated beliefs and conduct can clear this up with 20 minutes of googling. You will also see the opinion that almost all nationalists had of him. Also, Norman Spear, the purported leader of The Base, reportedly made his first appearance on the scene in Covington’s group.

    I invite you to consider these facts, which are easily verified, along with the facts mentioned in the article and draw your own conclusions.

  6. Ori
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    British politician and avowed Zionist Michael Gove recently got into trouble with certain parts of the UK press for owning problematic books such as The Bell Curve by Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein and another book by Holocaust-denying historian David Irving (The War Path, still available on Amazon).

    The Left, naturally, wants him punished for thought-crime while the Right is enraged that someone could read these kinds of books and proceed to hawk up the red pill and trade it for silver pieces. It’s obvious that our elites DO know that a deer is not a horse. It’s also evident that they do not care. What’s truly galling, however, is their Agent Smith-like zeal in hunting down any horse-deniers. Gove’s hypocrisy is sickening but not surprising; a former coke-fiend himself, he had no problems enforcing drug laws on other people.

    Also, I am sorry to hear that you have lost friends (or should that be friends who are lost?). If it is any comfort, I for one adore your articles. Stay strong.

  7. inq
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    “It’s about being tired of fighting, tired of being demoralized and demonized; it’s about the pain and suffering inflicted by globohomo on dissidents. By alienating us from the social fabric, globohomo injures us in ways that aren’t easy to bear.”

    The Matrix ?
    This is a warfare. Pseudo-science and pseudo-philosophy. Inverted truth. Misdirection and confusion.
    It is about selling a reality as an illusion to you, makeing you unable to think clearly about reality of this life.
    Then they offer to you false choices: collor pills. Freedom ?
    It is about instilling doubt, fear, weakness, obedience, and zero-freedom.
    They steal your life.

    You are sold fiction.
    Manufactured events, news, celebrities, opposition groups, propaganda, thought control, commentaries, virtual reality, chaos.
    The truth and reality are burried underneath.

    So, you are locked down, without work, no income, no real social contact – all under false reality – courtesy of corrupted nitwits and clowns of political and health-expert variety.
    Matrix in real time.

    • Posted May 6, 2020 at 1:11 am | Permalink

      Whereas before you could have a spirited discussion on the nature of the JQ without ruining Christmas dinner. In fact, you lifelong GOP voter uncle renounced Zionism and decided to spend his life advocating for white well-being. Then your cousin who used to have a thrash metal band but now works for Goldman Sachs broke out his guitar and the whole family sang Throw The Jew Down The Well.

      Yeah man, fuckin’ corona-chan took our freedom.

  8. Vehmgericht
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Slightly off-topic: could we not desist with the adolescent and increasingly strained pharmacological metaphor?

    As the author of the piece notes it is derived from a Hollywood movie that was issued over two decades ago — and which I seem to recall being held up by the usual commentators as a multicultural rebuke to the ‘racist’ Lord of the Rings trilogy.

    Are we in fact wise to present ethnonationalism as a Pauline metanoia or would it be more effective to position our cause as the skeptical and rational response to the more patently absurd contentions of the globalists and radical egalitarians?

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted May 5, 2020 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

      The Matrix came out before The Lord of the Rings.

  9. Dandelion
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    I said this earlier and it may have been deleted or not posted, I’m not sure. But I think a lot of the Cyperism has to do with a centrist movement by those afraid of getting deplatformed. That’s a serious concern for those who do this in a careerist way. I’ve noticed Zman has moved centrist, at least in his rhetoric, a great deal compared with his earlier work. I imagine these people would be similar to their earlier selves if you spoke to them in private.

    • Posted May 6, 2020 at 1:07 am | Permalink

      Deplatforming works. Though if I’m being honest, Z hasn’t ceded core ground. Some of the bells and whistles may be quieter, but what made Z Z is still there.

  10. National Renewal
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    ” (but Corona-chan ain’t real, folks).”

    Are you insinuating that Ramsey Paul thinks there is no virus?
    Please provide some evidence to back that up, I’m pretty sure he acknowledges there is a virus.

    This sort of deliberate exaggeration is disingenuous.

    And yes, I am part of the crowd that thinks there is a virus but it has been blown out of proportion by the usual people.

    • Posted May 6, 2020 at 5:28 am | Permalink

      The second he took to calling people who wear masks and keep their distance soyboys, he stepped into corona-chan denial territory. You can be anti-lockdown (which I agree is overblown) without mocking people for taking measures to protect themselves and others.

      • Stronza
        Posted May 6, 2020 at 9:44 am | Permalink

        There’s no proof that wearing of masks protects you or the persons around you from anything. It is the responsibility of paid-up, card-carrying, full bore members of the half-baked Germ Theory to quarantine themselves instead of supporting government demands that the entire world do so. This is what the white race (and all the others as well) has come to: regarding a g.d. flu virus as though it consisted of particles of plutonium. The reality is that viruses don’t chase after us with malice; we invite them in. Mere agents warning us of how frail we really are beneath those big muscles or pharmaceutical-supported illusion of health.

        This is a question which may merit an article of its own. Briefly, I don’t think something as large and as complex as the economy can be “crashed.” Seeds won’t get unsown, sheep won’t lose their wool and milk, goods will not get unproduced because some big line went down. Rather, there’ll be a scaleback of demand and a scaleback of supply and a liquidation of toxic and stupid assets, insofar as there are no bailouts as in 2008. Not pleasant, but not fatal. Could be the jolt we need.

        You have a legitimate point, in theory, in that you add “insofar as there are no bailouts as in 2008.” But bailouts (or not) isn’t the only issue. The folks who don’t love us have much bigger fish to fry. What is the point of liquidating toxic and stupid assets if you’re living USSR-style in every way, possibly worse, where the beneficial assets will go down the drain as well? And where you can expect a little trip to Amerikan version of Siberia if nothing worse happens. This is the jolt we need?

        No, the jolt we need is to let the chronically, severely sick portion of the population die out. This is the way it was since Day One and it produced vigorous, robust peoples everywhere.

      • Bill
        Posted May 11, 2020 at 9:20 am | Permalink

        Ramzpaul does not just deny corona virus he has told his listeners to rip the masks off of people who wear them. WTF is this stupidity! I don’t get the hostility to mask wearers from the retard right. Mask wearing has proved beneficial and is done by the countries who have reacted best against corona virus like Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea.

  11. Dandelion
    Posted May 5, 2020 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, I’m rewatching the Matrix, and I think there was another motive in Cypher’s betrayal: sexual jealousy. He was upset because Trinity had the hots for Neo.

    • Posted May 6, 2020 at 5:31 am | Permalink

      Good thing our side is all gigachads who have oodles of women at our beck and call. No way lust and jealousy will be a contributing factor to the wavering of our spirit and retreat into the purple pill.

  12. Happy Larry
    Posted May 6, 2020 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    In retrospect, that ‘We Didn’t Start the Movement’ music video from 2016 is hilariously dated going by how few featured in it still have a good reputation.

  13. Fionn McCool
    Posted May 6, 2020 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    It’s not just the Q people who believe the ridiculous Satanic Pedophile Elite narrative. In my experience, much of NRX (read ‘TradCath’) Twitter promotes this absurdity too, adrenochrome orgies and all. I want nothing to do with such hysterics.

    And yet:

    I can say that my own Cypher-like feelings originate not with the knowledge of how bad things really are but rather with how badly our guys seem equipped to handle it. I can’t even look at RW Twitter lately.

    We should be REFUSING to infight. The narcissism of small differences is the Feds’ greatest weapon against us, and believe me, they know how to use it.

    Imagine if my own Pagan Gang decided to swallow our pride and tolerate the embarrassing Christian LARPers, if the ‘Duginists’ and ‘racist liberals’ shook hands, if TRS and Stormer types made up; yes, even if our own gracious host would offer a wary truce to Dicky Spencer.

    Unite The Right, indeed.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted May 6, 2020 at 6:57 am | Permalink

      There is absolutely no advantage to working with sociopaths, druggies, drunkards, embezzlers, liars, and kooks. Such people make us weaker, not stronger.

      Unity with defectives is more harmful than “infighting” to separate ourselves from them.

  14. DP84
    Posted May 6, 2020 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    In re: RamzPaul, there’s a broader issue at play: What, exactly, are we fighting for, and what, exactly, is the endgame?

    In the first pages of the Turner Diaries, Pierce writes:

    “So I…threw myself without reservation into work for the Organization and made only plans for the future of the Organization. My private life had ceased to matter.

    Contrast this with what Tony Stark says to Cap:

    Isn’t that the mission? Isn’t that why we fight? So we can end the fight, so we get to go home!?

    I don’t think the RamzPaul’s of the world are Cyphers so much as they feel that the White Nationalist Movement has a different endgame entirely from what they thought it was when they joined it. White Americans support the conservative movement or the liberal movement, the Republican Party or the Democrat Party, because they perceive that those movements and parties are working in their best interest. White Americans like RamzPaul do not support the White Nationalist Movement because they perceive, correctly, that it does not work in their interests, and indeed, that it opposes their interests and everything they hold dear.

    It may look bad for RamzPaul to make a full pivot to the Alt Lite, but when you consider what matters to him most – his private life, and his personal freedoms – and when you also see the hate and vitriol that he faced on Twitter from ankle biters like Evan McClaren, it makes sense why he did it. He simply does not share the same values and goals that the WN Movement wants him to. A lot of us are figuring out that our personal values and goals don’t jive with the political program that the WN Movement clearly has in store, which is why the Movement is off chasing Bernie Bros. Maybe the Movement will attract it’s share of (more) alienated young men that way, but any chance of attracting normal, successful Whites of any age group will be shot to shit.

    The solution is not to double down on opposing “freedumbz” like a wannabe Tankie, or making delusional claims about the Movement being filled with GigiChads and Aristocrats. The solution is to figure out why RamzPaul types are walking away, and adjust accordingly. Assuming, of course, the Movement actually wants to be politically or culturally relevant.

    • Lord Shang
      Posted May 7, 2020 at 6:31 am | Permalink

      What is needed is a mass American nationalist / America First movement to become a center of people’s lives. This is possible because white Americans have become so atomized, which in turn has been a function of both deracination and dechristianization. So many whites, esp younger ones, have nothing social or civic in their lives (and often nothing at all). This flattening is part of why everything among even psychically healthier (non-liberal) middle-aged whites today is so family focused. Man is a social animal, but today for whites, the tiny immediate family is about as far as that social instinct can go. A mass nationalist movement that actually provided something – some focus of activity – for them to do could ‘scale up’ very quickly. I myself would love to get offline and connect with white nationalists in my area – that is, responsible and intellectual white nationalists (as here at CC), but not mentally unstable losers who “wear the swastika with pride”, and whom I would find dull apart from alarming.

      A mass WHITE nationalist movement is not viable at this time. A mass CIVIC nationalist movement is. But America Firstism, however, is a great entryist ideology. “AF” is already subversive to the Left, but it is unthreatening to most white Americans, esp on the Right. If a mass civic nationalist movement could get offline, I think over time most members would become truly redpilled. “Gradual radicalization” is the key.

    • Posted May 7, 2020 at 6:32 am | Permalink

      Ramz is a bougie who wants to go home and fight no more. I don’t see a lot of bougies in the movement. I see a lot of high-thumos people who have the makings of aristocracy in the genuine sense, of being “the best”. My comment about gigachads was obviously in jest, but attracting women and the nature of chad is a whole ‘nother ball of wax.

      If your end goal is to go home and fight no more, the purple pill will give you an opportunity to do exactly that and maybe be a weekend warrior so that your malaise isn’t as bad. This is why I wouldn’t rely on bougies to build the movement, even if it makes it rise slower. Rather, I’d focus on awakening the warrior spirit among white men.

      As for the charge of being a tankie, or courting bernie bros, you’re making the same mistake as the people courting them. Not everyone who’s tired of right-liberalism (cuckservatism) is a socialist. There’s also very little of the warrior spirit in socialism, even tankie socialism. Therefore, I reject it as an ideology and ethos.

    • Posted May 7, 2020 at 6:34 am | Permalink

      I also judge you harshly for watching and quoting capeshit, but for the sake of argument, that’s exactly what vaishya Tony Stark would say to kshatriya Captain America.

  15. Ernest
    Posted May 6, 2020 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been really disappointed by RamZ’s change of direction. I still listen to his program and it seems to me at least that his heart isn’t in this new direction at all. He seems listless as he goes through the motions of talking to these “more mainstream” figures.

  16. Mark
    Posted May 9, 2020 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Here is a link to Ramzpaul’s interview with Covington that is mentioned above:

  17. Mark
    Posted May 11, 2020 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Greg, you argued above against tolerating bad actors:

    There is absolutely no advantage to working with sociopaths, druggies, drunkards, embezzlers, liars, and kooks. Such people make us weaker, not stronger. Unity with defectives is more harmful than “infighting” to separate ourselves from them.

    This argument makes sense, but what about the danger posed by federal informants? What should be done about people who are known informants and those who are very likely to be informants? What about people who work with them? Should they just be tolerated to avoid infighting and drama?

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