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Qasem Soleimani
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Are you tired of winning yet? And by winning, I mean the continuation of endless wars and regime changes for the protection (and potential expansion) of “our greatest ally.”
This is the first thought I had this morning when I woke up to hear about the recent US airstrike in Iraq that killed top Iranian General Qasem Soleimani. The details are still unclear, but the information so far is that these airstrikes were conducted in response to pro-Iran militants launching missiles at US-deployed troops at the Baghdad airport along with violent protests in front of the US Embassy in Baghdad earlier this week.
Right away, I immediately felt a sense of deja-vu, recalling similar US missile attacks on Syria in 2017 and 2018. Yet the whole time I was trying to get information and possible explanations for the recent airstrike, I kept thinking about all the people who attended Trump’s campaign rallies. More specifically, I thought about all the excitement and hope people had when Trump promised how his policies would be so successful, his supporters would literally be “tired of winning.” I still keep asking myself, “Is this the winning they had in mind?”
This “winning” catchphrase became the closing remark to many of Trump’s speeches during his campaign rallies of 2015 and 2016. Many Trump supporters attended these rallies despite being fully aware of the risks involved. After all, just the act of attending a Trump rally posed a threat to your safety, career, and even relationships with your friends and family. At the rallies in San Jose and Chicago, Trump supporters were physically attacked by Antifa and other protestors, all while the police stood back and merely watched.
Nevertheless, thousands of people took those risks to attend these rallies. They did so because for many of them, it was the first time in their lives that a presidential candidate openly spoke about some of the problems facing white middle-class America. Sure, Trump didn’t come out and say things so bluntly, but he was the first popular candidate to speak out against the outsourcing of manufacturing and middle-class jobs, the opioid epidemic, and illegal immigration. He also campaigned on ending the ongoing wars and conflicts in the Middle East. His solution was to focus solely on defeating ISIS in Syria (with the help of other foreign powers), which would then allow a final withdrawal of Americans troops out of Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Hence, leaving the Middle East for good.
Even during the early stages of the Trump campaign, some Trump supporters were well aware of US General Wesley Clark’s admissions on how American foreign policy in the Middle East had been planned on or before the events of 9/11. For those not familiar, General Clark explained during an interview with Democracy Now that a few weeks after 9/11 (during the initial US airstrikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan), he received a memo from the Office of the Secretary of Defense. This memo detailed the plans for the US to invade seven Middle Eastern countries within the next five years. The countries listed in the memo were Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finally, Iran.
While it would take more than five years, many of the countries on the list have been either invaded, attacked, or impacted by US foreign policy. The Iraq War occurred from 2003 to 2011 (with re-engagement in 2014), replacing Saddam Hussein and his Ba’ath government with a pro-American government.
During the 2011 Libyan Civil War, US involvement included the bombings of over 100 targets and the use of one of its predator drones that would lead to the assassination of Muammar Gaddafi.
The American-led intervention in the Syrian civil war against ISIS started in late 2014 and would increase with Trump’s airstrikes in 2017 and 2018. While there has been considerable troop withdrawal throughout 2019, Trump noted in November 2019 that there would be no “end date” for US intervention in Syria any time soon.
Now we are witnessing a heated tension and potential conflict between the US and Iran. Trump has already tweeted that he isn’t planning regime change and that these recent airstrikes have been an attempt to prevent a war with Iran. I’m sure most people like me are hoping that things can somehow deescalate. Nevertheless, this seems eerily familiar to how past conflicts started with other Middle Eastern countries.
If you had asked the average Trump supporter during his campaign rallies why the US government and military had been invading various Middle Eastern countries the past two decades, you probably would have gotten one of three answers. The first and most common answer you might have heard would be “to stop radical Islamic Terrorism.” The second answer would have been “for oil.” The third answer would probably have been a combination of the first two responses.
More than likely though, you would have been hard-pressed to find many people that would identify or justify America’s foreign policy in the Middle East as being the protector of Israel. You may have heard this explanation or concern from one of the many neocon commentators on cable news channels, but most likely not at a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa or Tulsa, Oklahoma.
There are still many Trump supporters who would deny or mock any criticism of Israel, given that the only information they have heard on this issue are the common talking points from Fox News, explaining that Israel is “the only true democracy of the Middle East” and “our greatest ally.” The problem is that most people aren’t familiar with the historical and geopolitical rivalries that Israel has had (and continues to have) with its surrounding neighbors.
For Syria, American intervention on behalf of Israel allows Israel to expand its territory. The Golan Heights is an area between Israel and Syria. The Golan Heights was captured by Israel from Syria during The Six Day War of 1967. Israeli law was further applied to the territory in 1981. Most of the world has considered this area to be occupied Syrian territory.
Nevertheless, the US has become increasingly involved in Syria throughout this decade, starting with Obama’s “red line” speech against Syria’s “alleged” use of chemical weapons in 2012 and continuing through Trump’s airstrikes the last few years. In March 2019, the United States became the first state to recognize the Golan Heights as a territory of Israel. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu even named a new settlement of the Golan Heights after Trump, with a large monument spelling out the new name “Trump Heights” in both Hebrew and English.
Not surprisingly, Israel also has a decade-long conflict with Iran. It would take another article to get into all the specifics, but suffice to say, both Iran and Israel have been in a proxy-type Cold War with each other since 2005. Iran considers Israel to be an illegitimate Zionist regime on Arab land and has often threatened to wipe Israel off the map. Iran is politically supported by Syria and Lebanon, while using Hezbollah and Hamas as proxy fighters. Israel naturally identifies Iran as a threat and works to limit Iran’s nuclear capability. Israel is supported by the US (and to a lesser extent, Saudi Arabia), while relying more on their own Israeli army for defense as opposed to other proxy militant groups (the MKO and PJAK groups being the exception).
Which brings us back to the current situation with the recent airstrike in Iraq. I don’t know how this situation will play out, but part of me feels that this conflict benefits the security of Israel more than it does the white middle-class that voted for Trump. Many people rightly criticize Trump for doing more for Israel than the white middle-class of America. After all, Trump has helped secure Israel’s border walls and has also recently made an executive order identifying Jewish people a protected class. Mark Levin has even labeled Trump “the first Jewish president of the USA.”
Yet I still keep thinking what Trump supporters, the ones that risked their safety and livelihood to attend those rallies, think about this conflict and the last few years under Trump’s presidency. Are they really tired of “winning?” I know what I’m tired of. I’m tired of white people being unable to openly express pride in their identity and heritage. I’m tired of white people becoming a minority in the communities they grew up in. I’m tired of non-white groups having protected statuses while violent hate-crimes against white people happen every day. I don’t care about Iran or Israel. I care about white people. And under Trump’s presidency, I’m tired of white people losing.
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You are 99% right. However, I remember even during the 2016 campaign, Trump complained about Obama’s Iran deal (it was not a treaty, just an agreement and it was not confirmed and could not possibly be confirmed as a treaty by the US Senate which as Pat Buchanan long pointed out is Israeli occupied territory). I hated Obama, of course, but this was one good thing he did and Trump undid it. Yes, Trump did complain about mid-east wars, especially Iraq, but he seems to have had it in for Iran all the while even in the 2016 campaign. This is truly a disaster as you point out but you can’t blame Trump for inconsistency. He kept this promise.
Right af.
There will be retribution. This will not go unanswered. The Hasbara (((Deep State))) is pushing Trump for a showdown. But it has been mistaking Persians for Arabs. The struggle will ultimately be decided by the capacity to sustain losses which will not only be material.
Persians may not be financially formidable but our spiritual pedigree of almost 3000 years will come as handy in our efforts to firmly hold our ground.
I like the West. I consider it as extended family. I stand with the White man in his struggle to secure his homeland for his future generations but, at the same time, I hold my soil as sacred we will defend our way of life.
As for America, the situation is far from hunky dory.
A White Christian Man patrols the Arab sands. He defends the ‘freedoms’ of feminazis, anti-whites, transcrazies, anti-christians, and drag queens who inject gender madness into White American children.
And then he gets killed or maimed and America loses another honourable defender who could have upheld White Christian culture by protecting his womenfolk and children if he had stayed back home.
The home front will fall in a generation’s time if appropriate measures are not taken. Perhaps, then, there will not be any able-bodied White Christian men to send abroad to stand guard for the Semites of Arab and Jewish extraction. The clock is ticking. tick tock tick tock…
Rest in peace General Soleimani.
May the Lord make your grave one of the gardens of heaven !!
Your spirit will live with us.
Thank you friend. As far as I understand from reading about him, General Soleimani was an honorable man, a brave general who always lead from the front (something that a chickenhawk zionist like Max Boot could never comprehend), and a humble person who often dressed as a simple religious pilgrim rather than with insignia of rank. He was a great leader in the fight against ZOG and will be greatly missed by all true WNs, as well no doubt as Iranian patriots and other opponents of zog.
I agree with you. Most Americans have little knowledge of Iran or the Middle East in general.
Only what the Mainstream Media tells them, and we know who owns and operates the MSM.
Soleimani was a truly honorable man. He was courageous and treated others as he believed God would have him do. He was barely educated but quiet smart. He was old-fashioned when it came to children and his wife, yet that is either good or bad depending on the cultural outlook.
During the horrific war with Iraq, which the US supplied Saddam with banned weapons, Soleimani was on the battlefield all 8 years!
He never bragged about his efforts, was, in fact, the direct opposite of a Donald Trump.
He truly believed in his religion and lived it, how many Americans do that today?
The US and Israel took his life. Yet the murderers of Palestinian CHILDREN get our taxpayer money.
Just a sample: The cost to American taxpayers of the Israel-Palestinian conflict $3-trillion
That is from 2003 you can imagine what Taxpayers have laid out since.
On Muslim terrorist Soleimani:
“For many Iranians, Qassem Soleimani was a warmonger,” tweeted Iranian human rights activist Masih Alinejad. “Unfortunately, Western media misses the point by glorifying Soleimani. He was the common enemy for people in Iran, Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria.”
In response to the regime’s threats of retaliatory violence, several Iranian people have voiced a different message. “Officials will say the Iranian people want revenge,” tweeted one Iranian Christian activist. “No! We want to see a good life and peace!”
“People are smarter and wiser. They can see through the fog of confusion created by the Iranian government,” said an Iranian church leader. “The clergy has filled their pockets and left Iran battered.”
This man was an enemy. A Muslim enemy. Muslims have been aggressing against White, Christian civilization for 14 centuries. Someday, all Muslims will be seen as enemies of Europeans – after the white man has recovered his racial sanity.
It is not your concern. Stay the hell out. It is our soil. We do not apologize for our way of life. Islam is part of our identity. Today, it is part of Iranian identity. It is not going to change. Live with it or assemble a crusading army and fight with us, which I highly doubt would happen, since it would be too much to expect from a feminised, sexually perverted West proud of its underage drag queens.
Secure your own home. It is slipping from your hands. Restrain your ungrateful racial minorities who openly denigrate your Christian culture.
We may be bombed. Scores of us may perish in this struggle but Persia will remain because at the end of the day there will be self respecting Persians.
Mercifully, we are not as milquetoast or effeminate as the majority of Westerners. Fortunately, it has always been a bit tough here.
Well, I tell you, the presence of thousands of persians does not improve our western situation.
Your wannabe white mullahs will run and hide in the desert if the west dont stop the zionists.
The desert is ours. Nobody needs to hide anywhere. As I said, it is OUR place. We are not a made-up country like Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria. Neither did we migrate from Europe in droves to ‘reclaim’ our lost Zion. We have been here for millennia. And we will be there for millennia to come.
Haha. You guys move in droves to the west. And the mullahs… Make no mistake. This is between the west and the zionists.
There is no doubt that this man has been cut down in what could be seen as a cowardly fashion, by drone operators sitting in safety thousands of miles away. As usual the public has been provided with no convincing casus belli making this to my mind nothing more than an extrajudicial assassination by a state actor — the very type of action Western leaders rail against when it is committed by others.
I fear now their hypocrisy in embracing this course of action will indeed recoil upon them and the public. It is time for Western leadership to accept that Iran cannot be prevented from achieving weapons parity and geopolitical influence in its sphere. Leaving morality aside, we are well nigh forty years on from the last time such Western aims were achievable.
I’ve watched many a Trump rally over the years and enjoyed the hopeful spirit of the crowds. However, the most recent rally in Michigan left me feeling blank and empty. The words said nothing to me as a white American other than I’m not important. Employment is up, up, up for everyone, but no mention of white people. Moving the embassy and all the pro-Israel blather is old news and I don’t care about Israel when it means nothing is being done for white America.
I’ll vote for Trump again in November because the Dem candidates are all insane, but it will not be with the enthusiasm and hopefulness I had in 2016. I think Trump will be our last Republican President and it’s going to get very ugly for white Americans. The thought of our probable future makes me weep.
You were spot on, sir, for getting tired of Trump’s self-trumpeted “winning” and pointing out that in his rallies he had harped all his economic achievements and employment numbers for all except Whites. I myself have followed Trump’s rallies since August 2019 on youtube and have also observed the same unnatural and pathetic pandering to non-White ethnic minorities in his long and repetitive rally speeches.
As far as I could recall, in his previous three rallies at least, he always cited his vaunted economic wonders regarding employment, how the employment number was up, up, and unemployment number down, and down for “African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans”, with special emphasis on the first, such as “the lowest in the nation’s history” etc., sometimes mentioning multiple times in a very accentuated manner. But he never had even mentioned about White/European Americans, not even once. This instantly made me feel suspicious, uncomfortable, even disgusted, as his highly tendentious and selective praises and groveling were obviously over the top and quite much a pain to ears.
This very phenomenon reminds me of a related episode. About two weeks ago on one chilly morning, when I opened the door of my second-floor apartment room leading to the open balcony, a young White man was passing right under my apartment walking and pushing a bicycle. Sensing the movement above, he looked up and spotted me. I said hello to him and he said back with a faint smile. He was in his mid-20s, sturdily built, wearing an old and unwashed thick winter coat and a beanie cap, his blond hair was clearly visible. When I was about to turn away and enter my room, I suddenly heard him calling me aloud: “Do you have a cigarette?” A little surprised, I nevertheless pulled out one from the remaining half a pack I had and gave it to him. He lavishly thanked me upon which we naturally started to short conversation. He told me he had graduated from a nearby small college majoring in mechanic engineering and was looking for a job.
His words still left me with a little puzzlement as there was really little point in my opinion for him to come into my university campus to look for a job that would suit and enlist his skills. But seeing an educated, able-bodied, aspiring young White man desperately searching for a job, I felt like being helpful and reckoned I could at least offer him some encouragement and good-faith advices. So I told him: “You’ve had a great major of practical value which is very much needed in our society. Now the economy is booming under President Trump (I emphatically added the last part), I’m sure there are quite a few companies out there that would like to hire you. But there’s little point looking for a job in a university campus, as even though their logistical departments may need use your skill, the relevant jobs are likely already occupied and I think the chances for you to get one here are pretty slim. You will have a much bigger chance applying for a suitable job to a company. I wish you best luck.” He didn’t say much except a “thank you” and left, lumbering on in his clumsy-looking heavy coat and with his worn bicycle. I can never forget his last words to me: “You know sir, I have a wife and kids to feed and really need a job”, uttered with a facial expression that could be described as a mixture of sadness, earnestness, and some gratitude.
After he left, I sat back and let the surging feelings in my heart sink in for a while. It was that scene of brief encountering and exchange of words with that physically able young White man, who was in a desperate endeavor to find a job to feed his families with his BS degree in this day of seemingly booming economy, that made me reflect upon the pompous words of President Trump, especially his self-celebrating and self-serving rhetoric of his Presidency being a boon to national economy and to everyone, from whom Whites are always and invariably left out. Maybe it’s just a politically convenient gambit at work for election purposes. Trump must have believed that Whites would always support him, which is largely correct from the point of “the lesser undesirable of the two”, and he really needed to appeal to as many non-White votes as possible, but it still strikes me as cheesy and queasy, and increasingly so, viewed from my short experience with that full-bodied and shabbily-dressed job-seeking young White guy.
By the way, I do smoke, though not much. I know it’s a bad habit, but I am now in my mid-40s and it’s has been years with me, especially for my irregular work and rest hours due to frequent needs to burn midnight oil to write papers and do other things of a stationary nature as a middle-aged intellectual, and also due to the fact that my stomach is a little repulsed by coffee. Young people who do not smoke yet are strongly discouraged to pick up this bad unhealthy habit. On the other hand, since my arrival in US four months ago, during my limited outing, I have met at least a half dozen times of total strangers, who were evenly distributed between Whites and Blacks, asking me for “a cigarette”, and I always kindly obliged as long as I had some, even though in my home culture one is almost never asked for a cigarette by strangers in the street.
As far as I know, Iran has never threatened to “wipe Israel off the map”. This seems to go back to a mis-translation of a speech – in all likelihood intentional- of the words that “Israel will be wiped off the pages of history”, in other words, it will not last. Since it only persists through massive military and diplomatic support by the US and is shielded through its European diplomatic protection, in addition to big-mouthed announcements such as expressed in the solipsistic Merkel opinion, that Germany’s sole purpose of existence is for the protection of Israel, these protective walls will disappear with the diminishment of the power of the US, NATO, the EU and the current UN. The post-war disequilibrium cannot be maintained by a threat forever, more and countries are acquiring the means of pursuing their own policy. Hence, Israel is likely to fare as did the Kingdom of Jerusalem of the Crusaders.
Likewise, Persians are not Arabs.
Walter writes: “The post-war disequilibrium cannot be maintained by a threat forever, more and countries are acquiring the means of pursuing their own policy…..”
I beg to differ. The Roman Empire lasted for hundreds of years by applying a policy of threats which it readily carried out. So in theory the existing post-1945 political settlement of the world could endure for centuries…seventy years already.
At this grim moment. I will stick my neck out and say that military force is not the way to combat the power of the US, NATO, the EU, the UNO and Israel.
But by peaceful means, expose successfully the “justification” for the Second World war and the resulting world order, as based on the war-time Allies’ propaganda-lies of the “Holocaust” and the present political world-order will collapse. Somewhat similar to the moral and physical collapse of the Soviet Union, the twin half of the Allies of 1945.
But war, no that is not the answer. The earlier president of Iran, Ahmadi-nezad, had the correct idea when he organised the conference in Tehran in 2005 that publically and at the international level morally exposed and destroyed the lies of the Allies and their so-called “Holocaust”.
I’ve become utterly disgusted with Trump. His assassination of Qasem Soleimani is nothing less than another blatant attack on Christianity and Traditionalism. Soleimani was an ardent supporter of the Shi’ite militias and Assyrians Christians who were either combating or facing persecution from DAESH. The West despises Iran because they embrace Traditionalism. Furthermore, this assassination isn’t much different from Trump’s earlier missile attacks against Assad, another Middle Eastern leader who’s been a fervent supporter of Assyrians Christians. Moreover, Assad’s greatest ally, Putin, is also vilified by the West for his support of Christianity and Traditionalism. It was Putin, not Trump, who offered asylum to 15,000 Boers who were facing genocide in South Africa.
Meanwhile, IDS snipers were committing war crimes against Palestinian Christians on Christmas Eve and Israel has more-less banned them from making pilgrimage into the country. The IDF have also committed acts of brutality against investigative journalists who’ve been covering these atrocities.
Israel is no friend to Christians or Traditionalists. The Khazars have incited nearly every armed conflict in Europe and the Middle East since the 20th Century — including the genocide of over 60 million Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox Christians following the Bolshevik Revolution to the Megacaust that we’ve committed against our own brothers during WW2.
As for Trump, there’s absolutely no way that I can continue to support him. Trump’s a shill to Israel, bombed Assad, and embraces Saudi Arabia, a terrorist conglomerate. Furthermore, Trump has done nothing to combat the censorship of our First Amendment Rights. Moreover, Trump has done little to protect our Second Amendment Rights and he’s remained silent during the recently announced gun grabs by Governor Ralph Northam of Virginia. The Second protects our First. Lastly, the porosity of our Southern borders is at an all time high.
Trump isn’t a Nationalist or a Traditionalist. Is he better than his challengers? Perhaps, but not by much.
Sadly, all you say is true, except for Soleimani. He was a terrorist, who did nothing for Christians, and who was indirectly responsible for many American deaths in the Middle East (granted, our soldiers should not have been there at all, but still … vengeance is our right and duty). None of these Middle eastern players are white, and none are our friends. But Assad at least is a secular strongman who just wants to protect himself, and protects Christians because he recognizes their value as superior citizens (also, because in doing so he increases his own power, as the Christians obviously also do not want Islamists ruling them).
There was nothing wrong with killing this POS Iranian. But overall, US needs to get the hell out of the ME permanently. Let all those squabbling undesirables kill each other and not us.
The Iranian client state Syria never persecuted Christians. Only the US sponsored ISIS did so.
That’s absolutely ridiculous.
If Vengeance (for what?) is you duty it is THEIRS also. It is AMERICA who is occupying their country of which it is none of your business to be in, all for the sake of you “greatest ally” Israel. Stop eating the shit you spew out and actually consider what you’re saying.
You’d not have the same attitude if an Iranian spoke like you if you were in their shoes, standing within America attempting to defend against Iran threatening you after having just killed one of your diplomats or tacticians in Canada or something. No. You’d be pissed off.
Just because Iran isn’t a white country doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t support them out of strategic necessity.
Soleimani was a hero, not only because he stood up to America and the Jews who run it, but also the Jews who’re wanting to destroy his country, his people, his land and culture which Trump threatened to attack with bombs. If you cannot see the OBVIOUS aggression in that, and the history of American provocations throughout history which destroyed Iran in the first place, then you need a history lesson.
WE need men like Soleimani to protect our European race and heritage. To stand up against the forces who seek to destroy us. Soleimani wasn’t a terrorist, he was actively participating in a war to defend his people, and if that mean’s “terrorism” (which it isn’t) then good fucking on him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwHTIbiwk6w
I opposed the Iraq War because I a) saw it as a neocon Likud war to strengthen Israel; b) foresaw that it would be an enormous waste of money even if “successful”; c) on principle don’t believe in “wars for democracy” (democracy being one of the classically bad forms of government); d) don’t wish my country to have to shoulder any burdens on behalf of foreigners, especially nonwhites; e) predicted that it would make the terrorist situation even worse, as I recognized that Saddam Hussein was a secular tyrant, who in fact was an enemy of radical Islamists and kept a tight lid on them in Iraq; f) was worried that it would turn into a long US occupation, which would end up eroding US public support for fighting jihadism more generally; and g) predicted it would cost the GOP at least one house of Congress (we lost both in 2006, almost certainly because of Iraq).
So I was/am definitely in the Pat Buchanan / Ron Paul wing of the GOP wrt Iraq.
That said, what you say is nonsensical. You say America is occupying their country. No, we are not occupying Iran; we have occupied Iraq. Why did Soleimani interfere with Iraq? Why did he wage a bloody terrorist proxy war against American troops? He was ultimately responsible for arming shiite terror cells who killed hundreds of Americans. that makes him our enemy. And that gave us the right to blow him up.
Oh, and we shouldn’t need nonwhites to defend the European race (itself a bizarre idea). We will defend ourselves from our chiefest aggressors – Muslims. White patriots need to create as much tension as possible between Muslims and the West. Only when Muslims are DAILY committing multiple anti-European/American terrorist atrocities might white men finally seal up their borders; crack down on immigration (esp in Europe); and begin granting reptriationist discourse a serious hearing.
Absolutely right, Mr Kirk.
Some on the Right seem to have forgotten a recent past that was genuinely pro-Arab and pro-Islam, and when there was co-operation. For some there is only one type of Islam, and they’re all just no account darkies. Crapping on people for decades then acting outraged when there is a reaction is sociopathic. The chaos in the region is not of Arab or Islamic making, and has been deliberately kept festering for over a century.
Much of the U.S. Right is acting as banal and retarded as their counterparts during the Cold War – lining up behind the bandleaders with a puerile jingoism.
The biggest threat to Western Civilization is, and has long been, the USA.
I had a short conversation with a National Guardsman at the gym…he was getting himself mentally prepared to deploy. But he seemed to think that assassinating a high ranking official of a foreign government wasn’t really enough to start a World War.
How can someone serve in the armed forces and he so ignorant of history? He had never heard of Archduke Ferdinand!
Soldiers are fools or needed the money and every one of them in written history has been lied to. They are sheeps to be slaughtered. It amazes me how highly you seem to think of them.
Being “lied to” does not constitute idiocy. Persistently believing the lies does. Sweeping comments about all soldiers in history are no more true than sweeping comments about all non-combatants in history.
Wow.
I’m equally amazed at the sheer hatred you seem to harbor.
Amazement is not hatred my friend. The other things I wrote were objective statements.
… this seems eerily familiar to how past conflicts started with other Middle Eastern countries.
Anglin has an especially good satire on all this. For anyone who hasn’t seen it:
https://dailystormer.name/will-donald-trumps-new-desert-wars-trilogy-meet-the-expectations-of-fans-of-the-beloved-franchise/
Is there a single reason left why anyone on the Right should continue to support Trump, even as a ‘lesser evil’, which he is not? Or perhaps he has a cunning plan in fighting ‘jihdaism” by killing off its only worthy opponents, while sustaining its Saudi and Wahabist backers.
Yes, absolutely. Every Democrat publicly stated an unwillingness to deport ANY illegal aliens, as well as an intention to abolish ICE, along with an intention to a) create a fully socialized healthcare system (albeit with some candidate differences in implementation), while b) allowing illegal aliens to access it. That is, every Democrat is a TRAITOR who seeks OPEN BORDERS + FREE HEALTHCARE for potentially the entire planet – an incentive for hundreds of millions of savages to legally colonize America, bankrupt me and other private sector taxpayers, and destroy my country.
Trump, I will wager, will not do any of these things. Therefore, a Trump reelection buys the nationalist Right more metapolitical awakening time, which is what we so desperately need.
Anyone who does not vote for Trump (at least in a true ‘swing state”, where one’s vote matters), despite his numerous ideological and personal flaws, is a fool of the highest order.
Yeah. No. More Illegals have ENTERED the US under Trump than even Obama, Obama who deported MORE Illegals than Trump. Also, the US has taken in MORE LEGAL immigrants than they ever have under Trump.
YOU HAVE NO REASON to vote for that liar.
Stop being a fool and wake up. The pretty lights, MAGA hats, American Flags and pretty slogans will not make your backwater hope for Trump real, you’ll just be a fool who was led on by the crowds of equally delusional Trumpites.
This isn’t even CLOSE to a complete list of the evidence. It’s the most I could dig up on short notice. But it’s enough.
https://thehill.com/latino/470900-deportations-lower-under-trump-than-obama-report
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/03/jared-kushner-expand-legal-immigration-1249950
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/18/white-house-suggests-it-will-back-down-on-5-billion-border-wall-demand.html
National Data | Trump’s Worst Failure?—April Jobs Show Record Immigrant Displacement Of American Workers, Continuing Disastrous Multi-Year Trend
https://vdare.com/articles/national-data-trump-s-worst-failure-april-jobs-show-record-immigrant-displacement-of-american-workers-continuing-disastrous-multi-year-trend
https://www.amren.com/news/2019/04/latest-trump-h-2b-increase-again-betrays-american-workers/
Trump Won’t Save You – Jared Taylor
https://youtu.be/n4TbBcvbFqU
Trump ad-libs that he wants legal immigrants in ‘the largest numbers ever’
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/05/trump-state-of-the-union-legal-immigration-1148629
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/largest-numbers-ever-trumps-immigration-ad-lib/582133/
Trump: We Need More Immigrants in Our Country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNRaTsPtSBA
WATCH: Trump sells out to the donor class and big business, calls for increasing immigration to replace American workers and depress wages.
https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1102018833861111808
By the way. Trump is also the dude who said that BLACK PEOPLE LITERALLY BUILT THE UNITED STATES (Source: Donald Trump Says African Americans Built This Nation!
https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhR43Sz2De701Jg6X8)
Yeah, go vote for him. When this is your standard for what is better than a Democrat you’re clearly in big trouble.
Is there a single reason left why anyone on the Right should continue to support Trump,
Well, yes. There is “a single reason.” A rising stock market for the election requires a rising price in oil.
Mr Bolton,
in Trumps case one thing is very very obvious: He is doing symbolic things for maximum publicity. What did he achieve by killing Soleimani (may God rest his soul)? Publicity. He seemed tough. He pleased his Jewish handler or influencers. Now that Iran and the whole middle east is on code red, readying their armies and so forth – will he strike now?
I doubt it. That would absolutely be the inverse of Blitzkrieg. Even the pro US factions in Iran have a very tough standing now.
It is obvious Trump is anti- neocon and it is obvious that there are significant interests in the US deep state backing him. Question is which faction wins.
Is there a single reason left why anyone on the Right should continue to support Trump, even as a ‘lesser evil’, which he is not?
On the most important issues, he remains much better than anyone else, as Shang pointed out.
My guess/hope is that at the end of all this excitement there will be no war; the neoconservatives will be complaining about “a missed opportunity” to reshape the Middle East; and the Iranian leadership will draw the proper conclusion that killing Americans is a bad idea.
All Muslim leaders should have that thought firmly fixed in their brains.
… a cunning plan in fighting ‘jihdaism’ by killing off its only worthy opponents…
Iran fights Sunni jihadism while pursuing its own Shiite jihadism. That doesn’t transform Iran into jihadism’s “only worthy opponents.” It means only that Iranians have a different set of Muslim enemies. They’ll likely be killing quite a few of them in the weeks to come.
Americans wouldn’t be killed if you fucked off and left Iran alone. Just a thought.
Americans deserve what they get impeding on other countries to enforce the disgusting Democratic Cultural Marxism they’ve infected the entire world with.
HOW does this not cross your mind? You see Americans get attacked in a country they have no place in then you obediently like Pavlov’s dog dance to the cry of war, like an idiot who doesn’t understand the bigger picture of what’s going on.
Stop justifying whatever your retarded government does no matter what. Stop deluding yourself in this idea that Trump is still America’s savior when NOTHING he has done has been in your interests. This isn’t 4d super dooper chess, this is you LOSING and being too braindead to see it.
The United States is a worthless country, the whole idea of it led to this moment in history and the world, the European race, can only survive when the United States as we know it is destroyed and something else, pro-white and radical takes it place.
Absolutely right, Mr Kirk.
Richard Spencer supports Bernie Sanders’ “Medicare for All” plan, reasoning that a net transfer of unfathomable trillions from the white working-and-middle classes to the Hispanic masses, the greatest transfer of wealth in the pathetic late history of Western Civilization, will somehow be a great benefit to white working stiffs and their families. That surrendering earned private health insurance benefits for the sake of tens of millions of others in exchange for terrible medical care hasn’t been explained either. Maybe Spencer will soon have a paradoxical explanation why intervention in Iran will benefit us as well. I’ll vote for Trump again because he seems to like us and because his “more immigrants than ever before” State of the Union 2019 speech smacks of How To Win Friends and Influence People more than a reversal of what he promised. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt, until he does something demonstrably unforgivable, such as signing the upcoming guest worker bill.
Richard Spencer really said this? I never liked that guy, including back when he somehow connived his way into moderating at Takimag. This really does it. I was actually somewhat sympathetic to him after the Unite the Right fiasco. Spencer at least seemed to be standing up for white people, even if his showboating was obnoxious. But it now seems clear he is an idiot as well as a grifter.
This just strikes me as paranoid ideation passing itself off as inside knowledge.
I heard very few voices during the last election cycle who claimed Trump was an Israeli asset. If my memory serves, there were indeed scant few voices who questioned the wisdom of supporting his campaign over all the standard neo-cons he was running against in the primary, and especially vs Hillary Clinton.
Hindsight, as it were, is 20/20, and there will always be the “told you so’s” who never actually did.
Trump never claimed to not be a Zionist. Most of us were willing to overlook this, as long as he was vaguely saying pro-white things. I still believe that if the Republican congress had done their duty and funded his wall, that we would have it. And make no mistake, a solid 75% of them would have voted to fund it. (where maybe 5% of democrats would have). You can blame the John McCains and Paul Ryans for that faux pas.
The truth is, our government is corrupt from top to bottom, the will of the people be damned.
Much of this may well be true. Of course many Jews supported Trump (most did not) mostly because they disliked Obama’s approach to Israel, and knew that Trump would be better. Umm, so what? The only reason the (((neocons))) ever bothered joining the GOP was to protect Israel. And this is news?
Who knows what Trump’s real views were on the border wall. But I strongly bet they are as they appear to be. One has to have a ‘feel’ for politics, and, even more basically, human nature. Trump inveighed against illegal immigration (and unfair foreign trade deals) long before 2015. I’m sure Trump is naturally a strong supporter of Israel. Which of the GOP candidates was not? But I see no reason to suppose that Trump’s expostulations against immigration were other than genuine. That he failed to build the Wall was far more likely a testament to his lack of understanding of Washington and his new job and politics in general, as well as the duplicity of Ryan and McConnell, than to any secret nefarious agenda.
This might not be a loss. While World War 1 started with an assassination The Terror ended when Robespierre was killed.
Several other ideas:
1. Soleimani was not totally innocent. He was stirring up trouble in Iraq at a time when Trump has been trying to withdraw from the Mid East. At least try and leave Syria. Organizing an attack on the US embassy after Americans have mostly ceased involvement in Syria is a dirty trick.
2. This attack was a master stroke in the interplay of fire support coordination, targeting, and intelligence. The intelligence is so good it is certain the Iraqis were involved (however they may protest the opposite). It might also be possible that the Iranians – or some Iranians – might have helped get him killed also. Soleimani was a potential Caesar.
3. The Iranians don’t have many options. They won’t start WWIII because a man who lived by the sword, died by the sword.
4. We’ll see, this could help calm things down. Nixon’s Christmas Bombing led to a treaty. At the time, everyone thought Nixon lost his marbles, but he was right. It turned out to be a bold move.
Are you saying that the killing of Qassem Soleimani might stop terrorism, or have I misinterpreted this? Qassem Soleimani was leading the fight against terrorism, whether the latter inspired and created by Israel, or by the USA and its Wahhabist allies. Iran has offered the USA assistance in the fight against Wahhabism but has been rejected by the USA because the Wahhabis are allies in maintaining regional instability.
I believe it is not impossible to think Soleimani’s death might lower tensions in the long term.
1. He was not killed fighting Salafis or Wahabbis, he was killed after attempting to duplicate the Iranian national humiliation of America in a time and place where Americans had troops, drones, and native allies. He was doing a reckless act.
2. It is clear that he didn’t understand the conditions of America First. You can attack Israel and Saudi Arabia, bud don’t attack Americans directly.
He was partying like it was 1979 in 2020.
You mean like Israel attacked the USS Liberty? “America first” in its historic sense did not mean stomping about the world trying to infect every nation, people, tribe, neighborhood, school, household and individual with cultural, spiritual, social, moral and economic pathogens. The late Lt. General was a hero in trying to stop this world disease in his region.
The US cannot disengage from the Middle East with someone like Soleimani creating even the appearance of causing a retreat. After ISIS was defeated, Soleimani had every opportunity to get a diplomatic passport, get to the US on a United Nations visa and make his case against Zionism and change minds. Instead he caused trouble.
Avenging the USS Liberty must occur, but that is beyond the scope of the rightness or wrongness of this attack. I hope that this will allow the US and Iran to seek a broader rapprochement. The 1979 Hostage Crisis is avenged. Time for peace on the basis of ending aid to Israel in exchange for Iran ending hostile acts against Americans.
You (and I) have no knowledge of the precise background, although my post of now being much later, i have a little better idea of it.
The USAF killed over twenty of their Iraqui allies. Way to go in making friends!
Without going into earlier history, the only point of comparison I can think of is Admiral Yamamoto’s assasination on the order of President Rosenfeldt.
This is different, General Suleimani was a great general, and killed by a cowardly video-game attack, while on a diplomatic mission.
The western tradition is to admire the enemy in defeat.
I would be sure that Annapolis is teaching its cadets about carrier battles directed by Adm. Yamamoto.
Not that is relevant any more, a carrier fleet, as demonstrated at the battle of Okinawa, with human guidance for the explosives, sent more tons of the USN to Davey Jone’s locker than ever before.
“This is different, General Suleimani was a great general, and killed by a cowardly video-game attack, while on a diplomatic mission”
Mr. Chompsky,
Why the spin? Yamamoto’s killing was an apt example. Why use denigrating, dismissive language to describe the mechanics of the killing? It injects emotion into an otherwise rational discussion.
This was a military blunder.
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu even named a new settlement of the Golan Heights after Trump, with a large monument spelling out the new name “Trump Heights” in both Hebrew and English.
Except it was all theater. No such settlement exists.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/welcome-to-trump-heights-the-israeli-town-that-doesn-t-exist-1.7374026
The american government is a terrorist organisation
The nature of terrorism is that it is indiscriminate. The guilt or innocence of individual victims is unimportant to the terrorist. Think Provisional IRA bombs is English pubs and shopping centres, or more recent Jihadist outrages. The attack on Qasem Soleimani seems to have been precise and economical, with little collateral damage. Whatever its demerits, it is not accurate to describe it as terrorism (if that was your intention).
It was a military blunder then. Happy?
A blunder? I think it’s amazing what they can do these days!
So what? This is not just to you, but
You really believe that he was in Baghdad on an evil plot to kill Murkhans?
So many nonsensical posts on this thread, I would guess many one-off posts.
I am no lover of Islam, nor of zionism, but many of the comments here, on the illegal assassination of a great general, I sincerely had to check if I was on another site.
Don’t you want to bring your uniformed personnel home?
Can you not recognise that the general was a great hero to his people, and as a military leader?
As a columnist on another site was pointing out, revenge is a dish best served cold (usually attributed to Stalin).
It was a cheap and childish action.
I look forward to the unbalanced hysteria when Iran does whatever it does, if anything for now.
Reading your comment makes me think of iranians celebrating the mullahs.
Eh?
I suggest you get smarter.
Neither the terrorist american goverment or the mullahs are worthy of pity.
I am no great fan of the mullahs in Persia. Many Persians also
are and were not.
The whole reason for the mullocracy coming out on top in the revolution is the mosques having become the only speech venue that was beyond the reach of the Shah and Savvak.
Having met several Persians who were from the non-mullacratic opposition, it seems a reasonable idea.
I saw an interesting video link (could not watch it, my I’net connections are too bad atm), the Shah making a speech against Israel at the UN in the mid-60s, interesting.
According to the commentary, that was the beginning of the end for the Shah.
Really, Israeli’s and most Jew’s goals generally seem to be a kind of project mayhem, though never as entertaining as the one in the Fight Club, but far more deadly. Not to them, but to their slave armies, and more so, to those attacked by their slave armies.
I could write at 2 to 3 times greater length on this, but need to sleep.
Did the Persians admIre Julian? I would guess that they did. Since he was almost certainly assassinated by a Christian or Christian clique from his own legions, it is a moot point.
I will shed no tears over the death of a Muslim, but I will shed tears over white men doing the bidding of Zionists.
I don’t know.
Clearly the guy had it coming… but ‘we’ should not be there at all. Tulsi had that part right.
But the only thing I know is that I do not have the full picture and cannot give a snap judgment on the issue. I’ll wait…
A dead Iranian is no loss to us.
This dead Iranian is a clear indication that the preferences of 60+ million Americans who voted for America First are outweighed by a few Jewish billionaires and their hirelings who put Israel First.
That’s a loss to us.
I couldn’t agree more. Trump is the ultimate Con Man. Perhaps Bill Maher was onto something by applying the aforementioned label.
There will be reprisals for this. It puts us all in danger. Which could be said of the entire Middle East thing, of course.
A dead white American boomer is no loss to the world, either.
Let’s just be real. Every region is gonna have a hegemony. Iran seems the ideal candidate. Shia Islam doesn’t seem to be expansionist like the Wahabbist and Sunni suicide bomber sects.
Iran seems to want a stable and prosperous Middle East. Israel and the U.S. are the destabilizing agents in the region.
Soleimani’s assassination was to the detriment of the same and Historic American Nation.
Unfortunately, this is the dark reality that so many across the West are mute to. Perhaps our world would be a much better place if more people took the inclination to learn rather than wasting countless hours of their lives by supporting modern day bread and circuses or inconsequential twaddle (sportsball, reality TV, and other superficialities).
Trump and Co. are the epitome of hypocrites. They lament about how evil “terrorists” are, but meanwhile the real terrorists are those who they support the most. Israeli Defense Force (IDF) snipers had an active year in 2019, engaging in a new “sport” of targeting the eyes of civilian protestors in Gaza. Just imagine how Washington would react if members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) were engaging in similar hostilities?
Absolutely spot on Dr Krieger.
It seems to me that I have been hearing about the chant “Death to America” and “America is the Great Satan” since around 1980, when, I believe that the Islamic Revolution took place, driving the Shah of Iran out of power and the Islamic Imams took over the country. That is 40 years of “Death to America”. Can anyone explain how we can live in peace with them? Yes, Israel is a huge troublemaker and we should not be supporting them, nor calling them our ‘greatest ally’, but the message from everywhere in the Middle East, including North Africa, is exactly the same. And of course, no one in American politics will ever admit that the Jewish people are just another Arabian Peninsula desert tribe from before the beginning of history. Jews and Moslems are exactly the same fanatic tribal warriors, with only a different religion. Neither are our friends.
“Death to America!” Sounds good to me.
Well said
Is that you, Erik Striker?
A war with Iran only serves the interests of one (((people))). It does not serve white people; or the American people. It’s disgusting how we keep getting goaded into this wars. It is evidence of (((their))) influence and political and economic hegemony. Opposing this war might be the only thing the left gets correct – albeit for all the wrong reasons. “Even a broken clock is right twice a day”
Trump’s “Build the Wall” campaign commencement speech in mid-Jun 2015 was inspired by the release of Ann Coulter’s “Adios, America” on Jun.1, 2015-two weeks earlier. In the meantime during these two weeks, Trump presumably read (or maybe just skimmed, Trump-style) Ann’s skyrocketing best-seller and conferred with Ann about running on an anti-illegal immigration and America-first platform. Without Ann Coulter, Trump would probably not have run or would have begun a campaign that died in the crib. To Trump’s credit, he protested Obama’s immigration policies and trade relations with parasitic China on Twitter years before Jun. 2015. Obfuscating why Trump ran and how he came to be serves no purpose.
The timing of the strike is quite interesting. In November and December many Iranians took to the streets to participate in the largest anti-government demonstrations since 1979. The protests were forcibly quashed with hundreds of civilians killed. Now, following the strike, the people of Iran are (predictably) united once again as they rally around the flag.
Who betrayed Soleimani?
I’ve been following the Jews for awhile now, but even I never thought they would go this far.
They are coming out into the open and basically announcing to everyone that they control the financial system, the media, and are planning a war with Iran. It’s horrifying to watch in action, it makes you think of all those poor souls who saw Jewish tyranny in Eastern Europe.
White Americans, for their part, are as clueless as ever, and just content to keep giving bad stares to immigrants and blacks even while they sit down to the negro sportsball while Jose mows the lawn, the big truck and suv safely in the garage ready to guzzle more shale oil (which is infinite, of course) on their 1-2 hour commute to slave away for corporate america, so the stock market can go up and billionaires can become trillionaires.
Horrifying, unthinkable, crazy, endgame, terminal is how I would describe the situation.
its always sad to see people with dignity fall from grace
rip
I wouldn’t be surprised if all these quasi-redpilled trumpophile commenters are someone’s operation. But alas, the sad truth is that they probably aren’t.
Thought leaders in our movement should take note of this appaling fact when thinking what phenomena we are dealing with.
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