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Being the Bad Guy:
On Soccer & Roma in Bulgaria

“My fellow white people!”

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Ever watch a movie and discover that you’re actually rooting for the bad guys? That was my impression when first noticing a Guardian article posted on American Renaissance called “‘Everybody Hates Us’: On Sofia’s Streets, Roma Face Racism Every Day” by Vivek Chaudhary. The sub-heading was even better: “There is no future for the Roma in Bulgaria and things are only going to get worse.”

Of course, this is exactly how White Nationalists want most non-whites to feel when they demographically threaten whites in traditionally white homelands. When there are few opportunities, little-to-no government assistance, and general hostility from the host population, minorities tend to get restless and will be more inclined to return whence they came. The Slow Cleanse can happen anywhere, and when non-white populations leave voluntarily, all the better. So the Roma in Bulgaria face racism every day, you say? Is it as much racism as they level against the Bulgarians? And how does it compare to the anti-white racism in Chaudhary’s article?

The case of the Bulgarian Roma begins to show its barnacles, however, when we realize that the Roma have been in Eastern Europe for going on a millennium now. This is a problem, of course, since the question of “Where would they go?” has no easy answer. White Nationalists and similar identitarians posit that given the immigration crisis in Europe and its declining white populations, keeping the Roma in a particular nation will lead to more problems for that nation than enticing them to leave, regardless of which nation we’re talking about. This is why I felt that the news in Chaudhary’s article would be good, especially for the Bulgarians. Finally, the people are standing up to the anti-white globalist initiative that intends to replace them in their own homelands. Gypsies are low-IQ ethnic aliens who disproportionately commit crimes, rely on government assistance, and carry disease. They also refuse to assimilate. For the health of any nation they inhabit other than their own, they should go. The “where to” question can be figured out in a fair and just manner afterwards.

But I’m the bad guy for having such thoughts, according to Mr. Chaudhary. His article is worth picking apart, not only for the good news it inadvertently imparts, but also for the anti-white prejudice padded between the lines. You can look at the rest of this article as a kind of gray pill:

A wry smile crept across Steffan Stefanov’s face as he scanned the internet, digesting news of England’s now notorious football match against Bulgaria. It wasn’t that he was belittling the racist abuse that was directed against the black English players, but rather the use of two words littering media reports about it.

“Bulgaria and racism,” he proclaimed. “The two go hand-in-hand. It’s our reality, we live it every day. I’m sorry for the England players who were targeted but, in truth, this was pretty minor for us.”

First of all, can anyone imagine a white person on the Right being described in the mainstream media as having a “wry smile?” I’m sure presenters at the recent Scandza Forum in Copenhagen had “wry smiles” on their faces when gangs of violent antifa thugs prevented them from speaking at the forum – under the noses of the police, of course. Perhaps Chaudhary can devote his next article to that.

The incident this Stefanov describes happened earlier this month at the England vs. Bulgaria soccer game, when twelve Bulgarian soccer fans were arrested for voicing their displeasure at seeing non-white soccer players on the supposedly English squad. Apparently, these fans had gotten drunk on cheap beer and hurled “racist abuse” at these supposedly English players. For this, they had their human rights violated by their own government, yet Stefanov (and Chaudhary) continue to complain – as if the Roma were the oppressed ones:

Twenty four hours after the England team and their fans departed Sofia, it felt disturbing to stroll around the Bulgarian capital in bright autumnal sunshine speaking with Stefanov and other members of the Roma community.

Yeah, I wonder why Chaudhary didn’t have an intimate, moonlit stroll with, you know, actual Bulgarians to get a grip on why they are less than happy about the Roma presence in Bulgaria. So much for being impartial and attempting to see both sides of the story.

There was unanimous agreement among them that the racial abuse on display in the stadium last Monday night was just a snapshot of the vilification they face every day, which blights their lives.

Not as blighted as the poor blokes who got arrested after the soccer game, I would imagine.

“They don’t like this,” he said, pinching my cheek, this time to indicate our shared skin colour. “People stop me, look inside and then shout tsiganin [a pejorative term for Gypsy which is also a synonym for lazy or criminal] or blackie. Go away, we don’t want to get inside your stinking cab. I’ve been attacked, spat at and abused,” he said. “This behaviour against the Roma has become part of our society.”

Why doesn’t Chaudhary follow up on all the times Bulgarians have been “attacked, spat at and abused” by Roma? Is this a one-way street we’re riding on?

Angelo, 37, revealed that he returned to Bulgaria to look after his elderly parents but dreams of returning to London where he wants to raise his seven-year-old son. Uncertainty over whether he will be able to do this post-Brexit means that his plans are in the balance.

Of course, we needed a partisan dig at Brexit, even though that is less germane to the subject than how a government cracks down on freedom of speech in Bulgaria.

The perpetrators of the abuse directed against England players have been identified as members of a group calling itself the Lauta Army, a neo-Nazi hooligan gang that follows Lokomotiv Plovdiv, a team from the country’s second-biggest city.

You know, I would be more inclined to believe Chaudhary’s flip condemnation of the Lauta Army if he were to give them as much time to express their side of the story as he did with the Roma. It seems, however, that if he did that, the viewpoints of the Lauta Army would make a little too much sense for his liking, and so, like most mainstream journalists, he stops ignoring them only to smear them:

The Lauta Army is just one of many neo-Nazi groups within Bulgarian football who have emerged as the ugly, public face of what the Roma community maintains is visceral intolerance and racism in a country underpinned by elected extreme rightwing politicians.

Really? If they are so “rightwing,” then why are they arresting their own?

Chaudhary goes on to explain how Krasimir Karakachanov, who heads the Bulgarian National Movement, is pushing his “Roma integration strategy.” This strategy correctly refers to gypsies as “asocial” and “non-native Europeans.” It aims to limit the highly fertile Roma population (likely so it will never outstrip the less fertile Bulgarian one), and calls for mandatory “labor education schools” for Roma children and work programs for adults. It seems he wishes to make an unproductive portion of the population more productive. After all, the unemployment rate for Roma can get as high as eighty percent, according to Jelena Čvorović’s 2014 work The Roma: A Balkan Underclass.

Apparently, Vivek Chaudhary prefers that the Roma in Bulgaria not work:

[Karakachanov]’s party’s manifesto also calls for the creation of “reservations” for Roma based on the model used for Native Americans or Indigenous Australians, claiming that they could become “tourist attractions”.

Given all the rampant problems associated with the Roma (poverty, crime, disease, and unemployment, to name a few), wouldn’t these reservations be an improvement over what we have now? It certainly would be an improvement for the Bulgarians, a group of people with whom Chaudhary seems less than concerned. Could this be a result of his anti-white racism?

Following elections in 2017, which saw the trio of far-right parties emerge as key players in Bulgaria’s government, campaigners claim that hate crimes and rhetoric against the Roma have intensified.

Incidents include anti-Roma riots; demolition of Roma homes deemed “illegal”; police raids and deaths in custody; and members of the community in rural areas killed while out collecting firewood.

I wonder if these “hate crimes” occur as a result of the Roma’s predilection towards organized crime and child trafficking? Just asking here – not that Vivek Chaudhary or the Guardian would ever want to provide a suitable response or anything.

Zvezdomir Andronov, leader of the Bulgarian National Union, an ultra-right party which is not represented in parliament, was recently a guest on one of the country’s most popular political talk shows, where he said: “Gypsies, Turks, Armenians and Jews are guests in Bulgaria and if they are good guests, they can live peacefully here.”

Um, wait. I thought the Right-wingers were the bad guys here. This sounds pretty reasonable to me.

The events of Monday night have also exposed the deep fault lines within Bulgarian society, with some of its white citizens viewing things very differently from their Roma counterparts.

Does Vivek Chaudhary not realize how offensive he is being here? When he refers to Bulgarians as “white citizens,” he implies that Bulgarians are just one of many elements that make up Bulgaria – no better or worse than any other. He neglects to mention that without white Bulgarians, there is no Bulgaria. White Bulgarians (and no one else) are Bulgaria. Bulgaria is their ancestral homeland, and as the ancient majority of that country, they have the right to dictate how things should be in their nation. In any event, unlike the gypsies, they have nowhere else to go:

Sitting in a cafe in Sofia, football fan Robert Cvetanov added: “You cannot say the whole of Bulgaria is racist just because of what a small group of people did in the stadium. There is good and bad in every country.”

This is perhaps the most insidious statement in this highly-revealing article. The Left judges the morality of white people solely on their treatment of non-whites. If a nationalist, race-realist white person loves his family and works hard for them, is loyal to his friends, and makes real sacrifices for his people, that doesn’t count. White-on-white kindness is irrelevant to the Left. The Left only cares about kindness when expressed towards non-whites, since non-whites are increasingly the source of its power. Leftism has been shifting from a class-based movement to a race-based one for the past century, and it will not stop because a few Bulgarian soccer fans express legitimate skepticism towards its anti-white globalist agenda. Its ultimate goal is to liberate Bulgaria from these very same Bulgarians.

Attempting to halt such an evil movement in its tracks is certainly worth coming across as the bad guy.

Spencer J. Quinn is a frequent contributor to Counter-Currents and the author of the novel White Like You.

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  1. Flavius
    Posted October 28, 2019 at 5:08 am | Permalink

    It is true that everybody hates gypsies in Eastern Europe. In our daily life, most of us actively discriminate against them – we all avoid gypsies as much as possible. It is often easy to do that, since they almost never have jobs, so you do not encounter them in normal professional circumstances.
    By the way, nobody refers to them as roma here. We all call them tigani/gypsies, never roma. Roma is a recent, politically correct word.
    They are parasites of the worst sort. As a rule, they do not have legitimate jobs and they do not integrate. They survive strictly by collecting welfare and by engaging in criminal activities of various types. The number of exceptions is negligible.

    • Spencer J. Quinn
      Posted October 28, 2019 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

      Yep. This is exactly what I hear from people from that part of the world. It’s too bad we romanticize gypsies here in the West. Been doing it for a while I think too:

      Will never refer to them as Roma again. Thanks.

      • Razvan
        Posted October 30, 2019 at 1:06 am | Permalink

        It’s funny that one of the Reich’s best singers, Zarah Leander was playing about a gypsy that stole her heart.

        “Zigeuner, Du hast mine Herz gestolhen” – can be found on YT. So much about Hitler’s censorship.

    • J
      Posted October 28, 2019 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

      I fear for all our womenfolk. Gypsies, Jews, Turks – heaven forbid.

    • Exile
      Posted October 29, 2019 at 12:30 am | Permalink

      The gypsies seem rather similar to Orthodox Jewry – fantatical clannishness, no sense of out-group ethics or restraint, hyper-fecundity and religious-level commitment to indolence and sloth.

      If you were to design a bio-cultural weapon for demographic displacement and social degeneration, it would have every one of these characteristics.

      Both groups should be treated as socio-hazardous material and safely quarantined from functional White societies on this basis alone.

    • Caedmon
      Posted October 29, 2019 at 7:53 am | Permalink

      I am old enough to remember when Europeans used to chastise Americans for our treatment of the Blacks as second class citizens, but I have seem stats on Gypsy crime and related dysfunctions, as well as Gypsy IQ (85, same as US Blacks, in the data I saw), and it is no worse than the same stats among the US Blacks on whose behalf Europeans used to ridicule US Whites for not integrating into our nation as full equals. Indeed, in some ways the Gypsies appear to be better citizens than US Blacks, and if a swap were possible (our Blacks for Europe’s Gypsies), we in America would be getting the better deal.

      • Razvan
        Posted October 30, 2019 at 1:16 am | Permalink

        Are you sure it was the Europeans and not the jews and the soviets?
        Many answers are found in the propaganda and secret operations during the cold war.

        • Caedmon
          Posted October 30, 2019 at 8:24 am | Permalink

          Not just Jews and Commies, but mainstream Europeans as well. The most famous example of course was (Karl) Gunnar Myrdal, one of the “founding fathers” of the Swedish welfare state, whose 1400+ page long book, _An American Dilemma_ , published in 1944 and republished in the 1960’s, researched and written on behalf of the Carnegie Foundation, played a major role in stimulating the launch of the Civil Rights movement whose legacy we are now stuck with. But many Europeans expressed this view during the third quarter of the 20th century in regard to both Blacks and American Indians. I saw it crop up repeatedly in books from that era that I used to read when I was a kid (yes, I was a bit of a nerd). They apparently could not or would not see that their relationship with the Gypsies was exactly analogous.

          • Razvan
            Posted October 30, 2019 at 9:47 am | Permalink

            I would investigate a bit further than wikipedia says. It’s interesting how someone with a modest/normal background reach so fast all the academic honours, his father in law was a socialist and he and his wife were both Rockefeller fellows in US during a time when USSR was really saved from collapse by the USA “capitalists” including the Rockefellers. Anyway, who was a socialist in 1900?
            It’s a bit curious.

          • Caedmon
            Posted November 2, 2019 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

            @Razvan, Europe had a thriving socialist movement in 1900, America had a smaller number. Socialists did not just suddenly appear after 1945, or even after 1917. Europe even had a socialist movement pre-Marx, which Marx derided as inferior to his own “scientific” socialism.

          • Razvan
            Posted November 2, 2019 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

            I’ll talk about my own country. In 1945 as there were less than one thousand comunists, very few of them being ethnic Romanians. The so called socialists at the begining of twentieth century were even fewer, and most of them were not ethnic Romanians.

            They were mainly subversives, and spies. The very few idealists were wiped out really fast during the numerous purges that were so common.

            The father of the Romanian socialism was a Russian jew, Ochrana agent. Of course he had sons, daughters, inlaws, etc. All of them communists and always Russian friendly.

            The entire lot has written immensely about everything despite that Stalin thinned a little their network. It’s mind boggling how the lot moved from one capital city to the other, were freed from prison during WW1, by Germans, by Russians.

            Why the Swedish professor would be so different?

  2. Arthur Konrad
    Posted October 28, 2019 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    “They also refuse to assimilate.”

    Segregation is the only good thing regarding Gypsies in the Balkans. Gypsy integration is the greatest horror imaginable, and the results of it can be widely observed in Hungary and Romania, where a long-standing liberal policy regarding free mixing of natives and gypsies has resulted in a swarm of mischlings of all proportions who pass themselves off as “fellow Hungarians” and “fellow Romanians”, and being skin-blind, are probably poorly aware of their origins.

    • Zero
      Posted October 28, 2019 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

      The choice of name “Roma” was probably not unintentional, and aids in confusion between Roma and Romanians. This is tragic.

      • Razvan
        Posted October 28, 2019 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

        It was intentional and was done by a communist jew and soviet spy Petre Roman Neulander, (his father was a communist and soviet spy).

        Petre Roman was envolved in the execution of Nicolae Ceausescu, while his father, Walter Roman was envolved in the execution of Imre Naghi. A dangerous family indeed.

        Unfortunately, Petre Roman became prime minister of Romania in 1990 with Russian help, and along with other things he forced a law to change the name of the gypsies to Roma and criminalize the use of word gypsy instead of Roma.

        He had something with the name Rome (in Italian and Romanian it is Roma).

        In US the name latin designates the peoples from South America that have nothing in common with the Latins (the Romans, the inhabitants of Roman province of Lazzio) of antiquity, while the name Roma (Rome) was given to a dravidian people from India and Pakistan.

        The attack is directed against the greatest civilization of antiquity.

      • Caedmon
        Posted October 29, 2019 at 7:42 am | Permalink

        In the course of their migration from their homeland in India, they briefly sojourned in the Roman Empire (which did not go out of existence in AD 476 but continued as a functioning empire until 1453), and when they migrated deeper into Europe they claimed to be Roma (Romans) because of the time they had spent living in the Roman Empire. The appropriated name lent them a measure of prestige or legitimacy they would not otherwise have had, or at least that was their hope.

        • Razvan
          Posted October 30, 2019 at 12:31 am | Permalink

          This is a recent matter. Traditionally they believed to have come from Egypt, hence the traditional name of gypsy, gitan, zigeuner, tzigan, etc.
          Truth to be told the traditional gypsies are calling themselves tigani and not Roma. All the medieval legends are describing them as coming from Egypt. Only the modern gypsies are calling themselves Rom – especially those from Soros sponsored NGO’s.

          This Roma is a simple lingvistic trick to defame the last remnants of the Roman Empire in Eastern Europe, invented by jews and Russians/soviets, exactly as I have proved with names that can be verified.

          • HungarianFashionista
            Posted November 2, 2019 at 6:00 am | Permalink

            The name Roma was adopted as ethnic name for Romani speaking people at their first world congress in London, 1971. It is the plural of Rom, which means man or married man in all Romani dialects, and it may be from an Indo-European root that means lord of the house (Dominus/Dom/Don). A Gypsy-like population in India is also called Dom.

            They did use the word Romani to denote their own language at least in the late 19th century. The first Romani dictionary and grammar book, written/sponsored by Archduke József Károly of the Habsburg-Lothringen dynasty, was published in 1886.

            There are no “remnants of the Roman Empire in Eastern Europe” in any meaningful sense of the word, apart from a couple of ruins in Western Hungary and the West Balkans.

          • Razvan
            Posted November 2, 2019 at 8:08 am | Permalink

            Thanks. Good piece of info. So it has a longer history. Surely the good archduke was interested only about science. Exactly as Petre Neulander (another dedicated man of science and university professor).

  3. Dr ExCathedra
    Posted October 28, 2019 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    This article is Exhibit #12,387,911.

    There is only one issue: pro-White or anti-White. And there are only two sides.

    As Mr Crowder would say, Change my mind.

    (During my long life, I never thought I would see things so starkly and simply. But reality is not as nuanced and sophisticated as I used to be.)

  4. Exile
    Posted October 29, 2019 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    “…the Left only cares about kindness when expressed towards non-whites, since non-whites are increasingly the source of its power.”

    The heart of the matter. All of these causes, minorities, gays/trans, feminism, AGW, critical theory in history, arts & sciences, on and on, are a convergent agenda pursued by largely self-directed groups who share two common goals – the destruction of the existing social order and the dispossession of Whites from their homelands.

    Groups like Open Society and international Jewish & globalist organizations provide resources and meta-policy, but there’s no need to micro-manage on a “Protocols” level. Just set some goals, provide training & seed capital then let the interested apparatchiks monkey-wrench Western civilization as they see fit.

    One of the most difficult obstacles to red-pilling normies that we face is the Sailer-style mockingingly incredulous view of the anti-White movement as “crazy” – very popular in the Overton Window Right. This encourages opponents to trivialize them and passively await the day when everyone “wakes up” to how “nutty” this all is.

    It’s called Clown World because the clowns are running the world, not because they’re a bunch of ridiculous cranks.

    Honkler memes aside, the physical and pharmacological mutilation of a seven year old child in Texas is no laughing matter. We need the dark humor to stay healthy, I get it, but let’s not fool ourselves. The enemy occupies the halls of power and they can see you thrown in prison, stripped of your job, your kids and essentially cast you into internal exile, Solzinhetsyn-style.

    These “lunatics” are running the asylum and as the famous “canard” about their mentors goes, if you challenge their sacred status as powerless oppressed victims, they will destroy you. We can’t passively await some “Awakening” – we have to be the awakeners.

  5. Posted October 29, 2019 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    Gypsies in Macedonia sometimes throw their children under oncoming vehicles in order to collect insurance money. I’m pretty sure they do that and worse wherever they are. These are dirty, parasitical people and nothing good comes out of them, especially since the liberal elites began using them to virtue signal.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted October 29, 2019 at 4:31 am | Permalink

      No human being would treat his own child so badly.

      Surely they kidnap white children for such purposes.

      • Posted October 29, 2019 at 8:13 am | Permalink

        When you have 15 children and no ability to plan for the future or earn a living, they become fairly expendable. r-selection is a gruesome thing.

      • HungarianFashionista
        Posted November 2, 2019 at 5:51 am | Permalink

        No human being would treat his own child so badly.

        The Gypsies hail from a low caste in Rajasthan, Northern India, and on their journey through Persia and the Ottoman Empire they absorbed the worst kinds of criminal elements from the local populations.

        Around 2010 there was a scandal involving a leaked tape of a speech made by the mayor of Edelény, a town of about 9,000 in Eastern Hungary. The mayor said local doctors and nurses reported to him that pregnant Gypsy women were taking a kind of medication that causes neurological damage to the fetus. Parents of disabled children get double benefits from the state.

        These accusations were never proved, and the large number of disabled among the Gypsy can simply be the result of incest, which is rampant. But two weeks ago the “racist” mayor was re-elected for his 5th term in office. Apparently people who know him well don’t consider him beyond the pale.

        Hungarian Gypsies are also big players in prostitution and human trafficking, both at home and in some Western cities, and they also sell their own female relatives. Social workers report that in many Gypsy settlements the female population aged 14-35 is entirely missing for this reason. Gypsies are different from Muslim grooming gangs who leave their own women alone and only prey on the daughters of the infidel.

        I also heard about children deliberately jumping in front of cars and feigning injury. In these incidents a large number of angry relatives descend on the scene and the driver usually pays to get out. There were quite a few cases of attacks on drivers following accidents, and in one case which caused a national uproar a high school teacher was pulled out of the car and lynched, while his terrified small daughters watched in the back seat. The Gypsy child whom the teacher supposedly murdered was actually unhurt.

        Generally, Gypsies move about in public areas as if they owned the place, and expect whites to make way for them. And the procedure in case of an accident involving Gypsies is to step on the gas, leave the area as quickly as possible, and call 112 (emergency number in the EU). Prosecutors tend not to push for hit and run charges in these cases.

    • Spencer J. Quinn
      Posted October 29, 2019 at 7:58 am | Permalink

      And let’s not forget the near-constant practice of the Australian Aborigines of committing casual infanticide.

      • Posted October 29, 2019 at 9:24 am | Permalink

        Fun fact: the gypsies are racially australoids, and relatively pure australoids, being the expelled dalit caste of India.

        • Vehmgericht
          Posted October 30, 2019 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

          I must question the anthropological and genetic basis of that remark: the Roma, culturally backward though they may be, resemble little any Australian Aboriginal population. One has only to glance at the robust skull of a non-admixed aboriginal individual to see that he or she derives from an archaic stratum of humanity, isolated for tens of millennia.

          • Posted October 31, 2019 at 3:50 am | Permalink

            Very simple. The entire population of the Indian subcontinent is admixed in various degrees between Aryan (white) and Australoid, which is the race of the Aborigines and Melanesians. The degree of Aryan admixtures is greater in the higher castes and further north, with Delhi Brahmins and Benghals being the whitest and dalit Dravidians being most Australoid. The gypsies are the lowest caste of Dravidians which were expelled and moved towards Europe.
            The gypsies are so strongly kin-selected, that a gypsy who has lived in Europe for generations is less white than a Brahmin who has never left India. Also, as someone who works with gypsies on a daily basis, I can attest that their physiognomy is decisively Australoid, especially in the skull shape (with the pronounced brow ridge we see in Aborigines), whereas white admixed gypsies look like Brahmin and Kshatriya Indians.

          • Caedmon
            Posted November 2, 2019 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

            ” the Roma, culturally backward though they may be, resemble little any Australian Aboriginal population.”—They are descended from Dravidians, who are racially Australoid, and non-Boasian anthropologists documented the phenotypic similarities long ago. However, the Australoid population of south Asia has been separated from those Australoids who continued east and settled Australia for probably 45,ooo years or more, so they have diverged during that time. The Gypsies themselves have interbred with Caucasoids often enough since leaving India that their Dravidian racial origins are harder to detect, but certain words in their language strengthen the case. More recently, DNA confirms their Indian origin, apparently from the pariahs or untouchables, India’s lowest social stratum:

  6. Vauquelin
    Posted October 29, 2019 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    My biggest joy about interacting with Polish and Romanian immigrants is their flagrant hatred of gypsies and Jews, which they do not hide. These are people I can casually flaunt my power level around, in the knowledge I won’t be despised for it. It’s alarming and utterly depressing that I can find this connection only with immigrants.

  7. Lesley
    Posted October 29, 2019 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    I’лл have to disagree a bit here.
    The Eastern European gypsies do in fact provide a constant stream of people who assimilate just fine, and are vastly preferable to Arabs and such.

    In fact, I’m pasting in an opinion from Unz:

    In the eastern half of Europe the Romani population constantly generates a periphery of reasonably well-adjusted individuals who become “real Hungarians”, “real Romanians”, and so on, and society then obligingly pretends they’re just “whites with darker skin color and always have been”. (Indeed, some of the most outspoken anti-Roma skinhead freaks, when you see their pictures, it would take some serious self-hypnosis to deny their strikingly obvious physical anthropology)

    Perhaps a New World equivalent would be “Indians abruptly status-shifting into ‘white Hispanics’ due to behavior changes”. But without them being “Gonzales” and “Rodrigez”–instead the “former gypsies” frequently make a point of taking “white names” (Charlie Sheen, cough), and even ultra-patriotic names. Mr. AncestralKing MacHeroicRevolutionaryson.

    Crap…maybe this shouldn’t be discussed out loud? Or the (((fellow whites))) will descend upon the Eastern Romani to convince them that turning into decent workers and pressing their kids to graduate school is a sign of cultural corruption and they should instead stay “true to themselves” and be mouth-breathing grievance queens?

    Anyway, thus the “core gypsies” are those who *don’t* enter mainstream society, and instead do all the begging and pickpocket and glue-sniffing and child bride nonsense.

    So on one hand we have the Romani population subtly beefing up the “white population” through a steady stream of members who choose to be normal productive citizens and become “fellow whites” in the positive sense, and on the other hand there’s always the pre-modern demographic core, where IQ tests and Math tests would produce results on par with Australia’s abos.

    • HungarianFashionista
      Posted November 2, 2019 at 5:41 am | Permalink

      The Eastern European gypsies do in fact provide a constant stream of people who assimilate just fine

      Even an IQ = 80 population produces IQ > 100 individuals once in a while. But not many. And the stream is anything but constant – the willingness of Eastern Europeans to absorb normal or high IQ individuals from the Gypsy population is actually making the remainder of the Gypsy gene pool worse.

      Besides, millions of rural Eastern Europeans emigrate to the West because of the horrible living conditions in the Gypsified countryside. (Once they decide to uproot themselves, they go to Vienna or London instead of Budapest, for the higher wages.) That loss is hardly offset by a few thousand tercially educated Gypsies – who also supply the ranks of the “human rights” industry in Brussels and at Soros organizations.

      Generally speaking, the whole idea that we need a constant stream of brown people is wrong. We need more white children, and if we can’t produce them for whatever reason, then we prefer to become extinct slowly and on our own terms.

      Needless to say, NAXALT. I personally know a lawyer who was born in squalor and crime, and finished law school summa cum laude. Some of our greatest musicians are also Hungarianized Gypsies. And there are small groups on the Balkans who are not integrated to white society but are obsessed with purity, both racial and personal, and reject crime.

  8. HungarianFashionista
    Posted November 2, 2019 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    “Collecting firewood” is code word for destroying forests and orchards, and turning the countryside into desert.

  9. Caedmon
    Posted November 2, 2019 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    @razvan, “This Roma is a simple lingvistic trick to defame the last remnants of the Roman Empire in Eastern Europe, invented by jews and Russians/soviets, exactly as I have proved with names that can be verified.”

    No, much older. Gypsies have been claiming to be Romans (Roma) since Medieval times, because starting with Diocletian, every inhabitant of the Roman Empire was declared to be a legal Roman citizen and could therefore call themselves Romans. I seem to recall the Gypsies also left the Roman Empire with some kind of dubious document that they used to bolster their legitimacy, although it has been years since I read about that.

    Posted November 2, 2019 at 6:00 am | Permalink
    “The name Roma was adopted as ethnic name for Romani speaking people at their first world congress in London, 1971.”

    That may be, but the usage is far older.

    “It is the plural of Rom, which means man or married man in all Romani dialects, and it may be from an Indo-European root that means lord of the house (Dominus/Dom/Don). A Gypsy-like population in India is also called Dom.”

    Dominus is th Latin word for Lord, equivalent to Greek Kyrios; however, that is not the source of Roma. The name is Roma, not Doma, and whether or not it has acquired the meaning of “man” or “married man” in their language, the source is the Roman Empire. Although the capital had been relocated to Byzantium from Split, and I think it was in Ravenna before Split, and before Ravenna it was “Rome” or “Rom” or as it is called in Latin and Italian, “Roma.” Among the Arabs and Turks it became “Rum.” (That is why you will see some maps spell Romania, “land of the Romans,” as “Rumania.”) As the Gypsies migrated from the Middle East into Europe, they inevitably had to pass through the Roman Empire, and as by that time being an inhabitant of the Empire made you legally a Roman, they continued to say that they were Romans even after they left it. It is likely they had forgotten their original origins by that time, so many people speculated they were from Egypt, thus “Gypsies.” Over the centuries, some Gypsies have intermarried with indigenous Europeans and assimilated, and some of the Europeans lower class has from time to time been absorbed into the Gypsies. Thus, European looking Gypsies are not unusual. Here are some pics:

    “There are no “remnants of the Roman Empire in Eastern Europe” in any meaningful sense”

    Sure there are. The most impressive Roman ruin (although not technically a ruin since it has held up very well) is the Hagia Sophia, built by the Emperor Justinian, who may well have been the greatest of the Roman emperors.

    • HungarianFashionista
      Posted November 4, 2019 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

      There are 3 Gypsy languages: Romani – spoken in Europe, Domari – spoken in the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent, and Lomavren – spoken in the Caucasus. The word for “man” in the 3 languages are Rom, Dom and Lom, respectively. They are all derived from the same Indo-European root as the Latin and neo-Latin Dominus/Dom/Don. There is no grand conspiracy here against Rome or Romanians, but if you think otherwise, argue with the linguists in the appropriate forums.

      There is no record of Gypsies in Hungary before the 15th century. When they showed up, they came from the Balkans, which was at the time part of the Ottoman Empire. No one in this part of the world called Byzantium “Roma”, just like no one called Germany and Northern Italy “Roma”, even though it was technically speaking the Holy Roman Empire. According to all our 15th century sources Gypsies specifically called themselves Egyptians, not Romans.

      In contemporary terms, no one in this part of the world considers Turkey, or Greece, part of Eastern Europe, outside of high school geography class. Greece is a Southern European country, and Turkey belongs to the vast Turkic world, not Europe.

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