Wignats Whirr for WarGreg Johnson
Hunter Wallace has declared war on President Trump. He’s not the only one, of course, but he’s by far the most articulate. Hunter and I have had a rocky relationship over the years, but I read his work regularly, and I know his mind is open to change, so I would like to encourage him to rethink his position on this. I think it is self-defeating.
Four years ago, when Donald Trump glided down the golden escalator at Trump Tower and declared his candidacy for President of the United States, he broke the Republican gentleman’s agreement never to talk about the negative consequences of immigration and globalization.
Trump’s America First, National Populist stances on immigration, globalization, and foreign policy resonated with millions of Americans: Republicans, independents, and even Democrats. Enough to win him the nomination and the Presidency.
But, as I never tire of pointing out, Trump did not have to take these positions to win. The whole system is premised on not giving the people what they want. Trump could have played by the system’s rules. Trump could have xeroxed the Jeb! platform and still won, based simply on his celebrity, money, and personality. In fact, it would have been easier for Trump to win that way, because by running a National Populist campaign, he had to fight a two-front war against Hillary Clinton and the Republican Party/Conservative Inc. establishment.
When a man pays a huge price to campaign on issues that he didn’t need to win, that tells me that he is sincere. That’s why I believed Trump could save America. That’s why I did everything in my power to get him elected.
So what happened to the Trump presidency? Obviously, he encountered forces stronger than his convictions about what is necessary to save America. Many of these forces are external. Blackmail cannot be ruled out. Historians will be puzzling out the enigma of Trump well into the next century.
But whatever forces were brought to bear, in the end Trump had to decide to go along with them. He went along with the Republican donor class. He went along with the Jewish lobby. He had a chance to save America, but instead he chose to go along with the parasites that are killing it. Trump ultimately allowed himself to be swallowed by the swamp.
Donald Trump is a tragic figure in the true sense of the word. We are witnessing the terrifying spectacle of a man of genuine greatness failing because of his own grievous faults. Vanity is clearly one of them, including a willingness to settle for appearances rather than substance. Lack of moral seriousness is another. But probably the worst is anti-intellectualism, which led him to adopt principles that are incompatible with America’s survival and his own better instincts. Principles like the civic nationalist creedal conception of American identity, or the idiotic notion that America would be enriched by jihadis, MS-13 members, and millions upon millions of Shitholians, if only they came here legally.
The tragedy of Trump is also the tragedy of America: the downfall of a genuinely great nation because of its own fatal flaws. I fear that there are not enough serious men left in America to save her.
But this is not about Trump the man. It was never about Trump the man. It was always about using Trump to get our ideas in circulation and open the minds of our people. Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
Trump was not the last chance for white people in North America. But he was the last chance to salvage the United States of America, from sea to shining sea. For more than half a century, the Left has been scheming to create a one-party Democratic dictatorship by flooding the country with black and brown people, who vote disproportionately for Democrats.
Third World immigration is election tampering.
If Trump had built the wall, deported millions of illegal aliens, eliminated systematic Democratic voter fraud, and reversed white demographic decline, he could have saved America as a prosperous, First World country. He could also have saved the American system of two-party democracy.
But Trump failed. Trump will be the last Republican President. And he will be a one-term President. Already, there are probably not enough sane white people in America to reelect him. What comes next is a Democratic one-party state that will resemble Mexico: a violent, corrupt, squalid, and socialistic non-white society ruled by a tiny white and Jewish elite of ultra-rich sociopaths mouthing Left-wing slogans.
Imagine a Beto stamping on a brown face, forever.
There is, however, still a chance to avoid that. It is a slim chance. But it is worth taking. White Nationalists could rally the nearly 60 million people who voted for Trump and begin the process of creating a homeland for whites in North America.
Only a few people learn from history. Even fewer learn from reason. Most people learn only from experience, and the most vivid lessons come from suffering. White Nationalists have been warning our people for years that our livelihoods, our nation, and our future are being stolen from us through race replacement immigration, which not only reduces wages and wrecks communities but is also a form of demographic gerrymandering.
Demographic displacement invalidates democracy. The whole point of democracy is to make the elites serve the interests of the people. If the elites fail the people, the people dissolve the government and elect a new one that will faithfully serve their interests.
Democracy becomes a sham when elites conspire to stay in power by rigging elections. One form of election-rigging is to stuff ballot boxes with fake votes. Another form is to register people who are not qualified to vote, including dead people and non-citizens. (It is tragic that many people will vote Republican their whole lives, then die and become Democrats.)
But the most insidious form of election tampering is for the government to dissolve the people and elect a new one through demographic replacement.
On election night, 2020, 60 million white Americans are going to finally experience what we have been warning them about for decades. They are going to see their country stolen from them through non-white immigration. They are going to see the beginning of the Democratic one-party dictatorship.
But when America becomes a banana republic, and democracy becomes an obvious sham, then why should white Americans abide by the results? Why should they allow their nation to be stolen from them? Why shouldn’t they take it back?
Now I have a serious question to pose to White Nationalists: If you want our movement to be in a position to mobilize the Trump electorate and turn it into a genuinely revolutionary National Populist movement, what should our stance be today and going into the 2020 election?
Should we openly declare war on “Blompf”? Should we pour scorn on the “boomers” and “normies” who still support him? Should we announce our intention to tip the 2020 election to the Democrats?
Believe me, folks, I understand the temptation. The A$AP Rocky fiasco is surely one of the most surreal and undignified episodes in the history of the American Presidency. And I understand why the Left would like to exploit the El Paso massacre to grab power, but it boggles the mind that Trump and the Republicans are basically willing to throw power away, undermining the First and Second Amendments merely to appease raving lunatics who think anyone to the Right of Hillary Clinton should be censored, disarmed, and eventually replaced by brown helots.
But how, exactly, would declaring war on Blompf qualify us to rally the dejected and disillusioned Trump electorate? Wouldn’t they simply regard us as their enemies, who collaborated in their dispossession? Wouldn’t they be right to do so?
The term “wignat” is short for “wigger nationalist.” A wigger is a white person who acts like a black. A wigger nationalist is a white nationalist who acts like a black, specifically someone with dumb ideas and high time preferences. There’s no need to name names. It is a term of abuse, meant to draw blood.
The wignats met their Waterloo in Charlottesville and the subsequent “optics wars.” Their organizations have collapsed, and they are trying to rehabilitate themselves on YouTube, Twitter, and various blogs by competing to issue the most strident and embittered denunciations of Donald Trump and the American Nationalists who trounced them in the optics wars.
But wignat self-indulgence gets us nowhere.
What should White Nationalists do about Trump? First of all, we need to understand the battle we are in.
- We’re the good guys, the National Populists who represent the interests of white Americans.
- The bad guys are the political establishment, including the Republican Party and Conservative Inc. (I support total war against these people.)
- The people we are trying to win over are the 60 million people who voted for Donald Trump, many of whom fervently support him.
To win their support, we cannot simply lump Trump with the political establishment. For one thing, it isn’t true. He is still at odds with the establishment, and when he gets back on the campaign trail, he will provide us with new opportunities to reach and radicalize the electorate. Thus we should treat Trump as still in play, because his electorate is very much in play.
We should praise Trump when he says something good. We should defend Trump when he is attacked unfairly. And we should criticize Trump when he does something dumb, especially when it provides us an opportunity to hammer home a more consistent National Populist message.
When we criticize Trump, however, it is best to make it clear that all of his errors come from listening to the establishment rather than to the people and to his own political instincts. Given everything Trump has done for us in overturning the Republican consensus on nationalism and populism, I think we at least owe him the courtesy of holding out hope that somewhere, deep inside, he is still better than the establishment he is now slow-dancing with.
If we take this course, Trump voters will increasingly trust White Nationalists as the people who best articulate the National Populist vision they hold in their hearts. That will put us in the position to take up the National Populist standard when Trump goes down to defeat. But to win this game, we have to be in play as well.
If we take the wignat course, however, the Trump electorate will simply regard us as immature, petulant, self-marginalizing Never Trumpers who openly advocate handing the nation over to Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris. Once we have dug ourselves into that hole, how exactly are we going to connect with the people we need to lead?
The wignat war on Trump is as tactically stupid as the wignat war on American Nationalism. Indeed, it is just another version of the same error. As I put it in my article “What is American Nationalism?“:
American White Nationalism is far more likely to win the battle for a white homeland than anti-American forms of White Nationalism. The white Americans who lean toward white identity politics, even implicitly, overwhelmingly vote for the Republican Party. They also tend to be conservative and patriotic. They identify with America and feel a strong attachment to American symbols.
Like everyone else in our society, they have been miseducated about America’s nature and history and think it was founded as a color-blind propositional nation.
But they are also increasingly aware of the catastrophic consequences of diversity. Thus as white demographic displacement accelerates, these Americans will become increasingly receptive to our account of America’s real identity, how our country has been hijacked by hostile aliens, and how we can Make America White Again.
By contrast, anti-American White Nationalists will have to convince our people of all the same facts about race, diversity, and demographic displacement. But, as if that were not already enough of an uphill battle, they will also have to sell Americans a raft of anti-American ideas: cranky conspiracy theories about Freemasons, Southern Nationalism, and the like. The anti-Americans will also have to convince Americans of a whole host of historical revisionist theses about the Civil War, the Third Reich, and the Holocaust, none of them really necessary for white survival in America. Finally, the anti-Americans will have to explain away their use of symbols which are at best alien to Americans and at worst are freighted with highly negative connotations.
Both forms of White Nationalism communicate the same truths. But American nationalists relate them to ideas that feel authentic to our target audience, while anti-American nationalists link them to ideas that at best strike most Americans as alien and inauthentic and at worse seem downright repugnant.
Which approach is likely to make more converts? Which approach is more likely to save the white race in America, which is really the only thing that matters? Clearly, anti-American White Nationalism is self-marginalizing and self-defeating. American nationalism is the only way forward.
The inevitable wignat answer is that embracing American Nationalism and refusing to alienate the Trump electorate is merely inauthentic pandering to “normies,” whereas they are authentic and only speak the truth. Of course this is sheer pretense. Every wignat disaster from Hailgate to Charlottesville springs from pandering to — or embracing — the false premise that the only authentic form of National Populism is neo-Nazism. But being a neo-Nazi in America today is not authentic. It is totally fake. It is a symptom of rootlessness and alienation, not a solution to them. So the real choice here is pandering to 60 million normal people — or a cringy fringe of freaks.
I have no doubt that Trump will lose in 2020. In fact, I think he will lose with or without the wignats. So I have a message to Hunter Wallace: You are powerless to affect the outcome of the election one way or another. But something is in your power: You are a talented polemicist and propagandist. You can change minds. You can either help build up White Nationalists as the natural leaders of American National Populism after Trump — or you can continue down the road toward irrelevance. Choose wisely.
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I must disagree with you Mr. Johnson, Trump will be reelected by a landslide. I agree with you that all these non-white immigrants will impact future presidential elections, but not this one. The democrats just do not have anybody worth voting for. As always, Counter-Currents is the greatest white nationalist organization out there, and your’re no slouch yourself Mr. Johnson.
Agree, best essay I’ve read in a while. I can’t foresee where things are headed with trump. There are countervailing forces. The ftn guys think trump simply won’t be able to win Florida again demographically, but there again the democrats seem comically weak. Could unprecedented proportions of coloreds actually vote for trump in the face of looney opposition? We have to ask Michael Moore for his superdivination powers.
Incredible, how much badmouthing can be squeezed into one post. Both for people and for whole countries.
Whether Trump wins reelection or not is not important to the point Johnson is making. Trump will most likely be the last Republican president. If you mention this in a matter-of-fact way to Trump supporters you will help, in a very small way, to push the initiative that Johnson has outlined here. How could one help in a larger way, though? Pass out fliers at Trump rallies? Work from within the (few) effective right-leaning activist groups?
Really excellent. It had the power of getting me interested in people and places I don’t give a hoot about. Glad someone else is paying attention.
1. You misspelled “wigger”.
2. While Hunter Wallace is not a bad goy, I can’t say the same for his readers. Check out the lunatics in the comments section ripping Catholics and Irish Americans, claiming William Buckley was a closet homosexual, etc.
I don’t agree with bashing the Irish but I am almost certain William F Buckley was a crypto-Jew.
It’s precisely why Trump went balls out to free ASAP. Black people are literally responsive to grand guestires like that. I can see a lot of blacks sitting out the election because of the UCKA Basketballers and ASAP theatrics.
Trump was very over the top about it as an electioneering strategy and it could make them sit it out. They like swaggering white massas like Trump.
However, Johnson has a great point. Are there enough sane whites left to unite against the coming demographic time bomb? I’m not sure.
On Twitter, Trump’s son seems more politically sincere. Could there be a Bush-style (hopefully not fatalistic Kennedy-style) dynasty in the making until the eventual rise of the ‘blond beast’ (Barron)? 😉
There is nothing in this text I dont agree with.
If I go to people and say something like ”oh my.. I just dont feel comfortable with all this. I belive we have let in to many immigrants. There must be an other way to run things”. Then I get a lot of positive response. Its off to a good start. And if I then go ”you know, Hitler was a good guy, there was no holocaust, every woman that has had sex with more then one man is a disgusting slut, and dont you just hate niggers. You should listen to me, I know it all”. Then people will not only be turned off, but they will leave in disgust and disappointment. Obviously.
Unfortunately, that is what I see from many white nationalists. That is the main reason why we are a small and despised group
We can do better. But not all of us.
“Unfortunately, that is what I see from many white nationalists. That is the main reason why we are a small and despised group.“
Takes like this justify my suspicion that American Nationalists don’t see White Americans as they are, but rather as they want them to be. Here’s the truth: Jared Taylor and his American Renaissance publication, Wilmot Robertson and his Instauration publication, and hell, even William Pierce and his work post 1990 was nothing like what you describe “WigNats” as advocating. The one about women being sluts is straight out of the Andrew Anglin school of “Anything You Can Edge I Can Edge Better.” Social conservatism in general should be tossed out of both the National Populist platform and the WN platform as far as I’m concerned, as most Whites are social liberals on issues like abortion, gay marriage, and sexual morality, and indeed, a Pro White, Eugenic society does not need to ban abortion across the board or promote virginity for young brides. But I digress
The fact is that the best thinkers and scholars in this Movement have presented Pro White ideas in as professional a manner as is reasonable without diluting the message, and White Americans have rejected it anyway. I ask you: Do White Americans have ant tolerance for the idea that:
-Whites and non whites are different and unequal at a biological level
-Whites are superior at creating and maintaining advanced, 1st world ways of life
-Whites have the right to defend themselves from the violent, predatory actions of non whites by removing them from our countries altogether and preventing them from immigrating in the first place
Or, lets try it this way. Say White Americans don’t want anything to do with proposals that would remove non whites from our countries via deportation and repatriarion. Say we are stuck living among non whites forever. Would White Americans then support a social structure that:
-Pre emptively prevents non whites from committing awful crimes or engaging in unacceptable behavior by allowing businesses to deny them service and by allowing communities to prevent them from buying a house in their neighborhood. Oops, thats what segregation was, and don’t you know, segregation is evvvvullll.
-Prevents non whites from voting so that they can’t stack the government with hostile politicians that want to stick it to White people wherever and however possible. Oops, don’t you know, everyone has an inherent right to vote without restrictions
-Rewards merit and punishes laziness, even if this means all the good jobs are dominated by Whites (and Asians) while the menial jobs and the shitty neughborhoods are doninated by Blacks and Latinos. Are Whites ok with this social arrangement? Or do they actively put their time and money to lift Blacks and Latinos out of poverty via mission work, church work, and other types of community service and charity drives?
It doesn’t matter that White Normies might feel upset at the immigration system because they keep on reading about the latest Kate Steinle murder on the news. I’m sure those stories make them angry, but when it comes time to proposing real, actual policies and solutions that would prevent more Kate Steinle’s from ever happening again, the anger and frustration at the immigration system dissipates, and its automatically redirected at anger and rage towards “racism” and “white supremacy.”
White Americans do not agree with Pro White ideas and policies. They want nothing to do with them. Their support of Trump is not indicative of any secret racialist stirring in their hearts, but rather is indicative of the fact that they prefer candidates like Trump over the radical leftist alternatives. Opposing Leftism says nothing about how they feel about race, and that’s the false assumption AmNats keep on making. They don’t need Amren, or NPI, or Counter Currents, or Occidental Dissent when they can turn to Fox News, Talk Radio, or websites like Breitbart, which actually reflect what they believe in their heart of hearts.
I advocate continuing to build the meta philosophical basis for White Nationalism and ignoring politics altogether except when we can use a moment – like El Paso – to go after our enemies. In terms of voting and running for office, we should have nothing to do with that. We’re not gunning for power yet. We’re trying to put ourselves in a position to be the only resistance in town when the Left inevitably secures absolute one party power over the USA. Then and only then will White Americans see whats at stake. Trumpism is merely another opiote. In order for WN to win, the Left needs to win first. We should let them.
The presumption of this argument is that we, the white right, are some sort of political kingmaker.
We never were, and any pretense to the Trump 2016 victory hinging on our vigorous online support is wrong. Trump appealed to all whites – but mostly normie whites. Not just us.
Trump was his own thing. A movement unto himself. We were just one small part of his voting constituency. We thought we could manipulate Trump. We were wrong. We thought we could push policy: wrong. We thought we had influence: wrong. What we could do was elaborate and embellish our ideas on Trump’s coattails.
And that’s really all we had. But Trump didn’t make the white right. Third-world mass immigration did. Black crime did. Trayvon Martin. Mike Brown. That’s what radicalizes white people. Not Trump.
We can stay true to our ideas: white racialism, patriarchy, protectionism, yadda yadda. The same things we always point to when someone has questions about modern woes. Yet, that means repudiating Trump – and in a game where we are not politically influential, it seems foolhardy if not extremely audacious, to assume we can guide an electorate of 60 million white Americans into our camp by reneging on our ideas and throwing our weight behind President Trump – who denounces our ideas.
And it gets worse: if we tie ourselves to Trump, as he continues to get swallowed by the swamp, it discredits us for latching ourselves onto a sinking ship. Because the obvious question becomes, just like it did for the neocons (and why we love Tucker because he points this out): why trust these people’s judgement? People will say the same about us: they led us down the wrong path, even when they knew that Trump betrayed almost every campaign promise – or even pushed policy that was actively hostile to whites.
That’s the gamble. It’s all predicated on Trump finding his anti-establishment groove, and then executing policy that is good for whites. That’s one hell of a redemption arc, and we’ve got less than 450 odd days for Trump to pull that off.
We only have one thing going for us: our ideas. Whether or not Trump wins in 2020 doesn’t matter. We are heading towards a Democrat one-party state. When things start spiraling out of control our ideas will need to be there to give people answers, but mostly hope.
The white right’s brief moment of unity is over. And it’s not coming back in the foreseeable future. With that, I don’t presume to have the one single answer to total white victory. So, I won’t begrudge anyone if they want to continue supporting Trump on the grounds of white nationalism.
I just don’t see it and am willing to take a chance of more Trayvons, Mike Browns, etc.
The above comment by Drogger is probably the best take on this article.
I ask this question in all seriousness and not as a gotcha or zinger. How does one square this article with the issues press release “Author of The White Nationalist Manifesto Blames Trump for the El Paso Shooting”?
Additionally, I think your contention, that Trump could have run a typical Yeb! style campaign and still won, is wrong. If your contention is wrong, then it is reasonable to conclude that Trump may just be a Con-man. It then follows that turning on Trump is not necessarily evidence of being a WigNat and that there is a possibility that you are mistaken.
Anxiously awaiting my signed and numbered copy of Towards a New Nationalism.
As I said here, I think it is reasonable to pillory Trump when he fails to follow through with his populist policies.
I don’t think Trump is a con artist, for the simple reason that the system does not respect us enough to even try to con us on real immigration reform.
Thanks for buying the special edition.
The system may not, but I am beginning to think that Trump may be malignant enough to con us, just so he can one day die a “Former President”. I do hope I’m wrong and that you are correct.
And you are welcome. I have many Counter-Currents hardcovers and I am impressed with the fine quality (both literary and physical) of them all. If I may make a request? I’d love to read Trevor’s takes on the films of Wes Anderson. I think he’s a very “implicitly white” filmmaker. Moonrise Kingdom is one of the whitest movies I’ve ever seen. Even if Sam Shakusky comes across a bit Judaic.
I checked all 3 of Trevor’s books and you’ve never done him. How is that?
I’ve never seen his films.
Astonishing. You must sir.
Start with Moonrise Kingdom and go from there.
I don’t like Wes Anderson
I’m sorry to hear that.
That’s an Andersonian response if there ever was one.
Wes Anderson shoehorns nonwhites in white spaces and is strongly philosemitic. His films are visual masterpieces and have great and vivid characters, but he is not our guy and has never been.
@ Greg Johnson
I have all of the Counter-Currents hardcovers, and paperbacks, if there is no hardcover. There is one book that never made it into paperback, or hardcover, it was “The Non-Hindu Indians & Indian Unity” by Savitri Devi. What’s up with that, was there just not enough interest in the title to make it cost effective?
Oh, I thought wignat was a contraction of “wing nut” because I’ve always seen it in conjunction with someone who shot up someplace or someone. Wigger Nationalist for skin heads. Not really. Ok. There needs to be an alt right lexicon or encyclopedia. I’m telling you it would be a hit.
‘Wignat’ is an echo derivation of wingnut, just as ‘yuppie’ was an echo of ‘preppie.’ Forthcoming in 2020 is the Official Wignat Handbook.
a great read above … agree with the idea that there is substantial possibility Trump is blackmailed … seems Trump can’t do much, but we should remember him like he was at his best
Trump’s eternal legacy:
– He legitimised saying the news was fake
– He legitimised saying people were menaced by globalists
– He legitimised that you can defend your own culture
Italy is worth keeping an eye on … Trump paved the way for Salvini in Italy, who is showing what can be done when a populist leader fulfils his promises … in some ways Europe is luckier given the demographics are still stronger, and the tide can turn at an earlier point along the path of decline
Trump also got the FBI to destroy its sterling public image.
Excellent article. We need to begin planning the institutional framework that will eliminate the failure modes that led to America (and Europe) circa 2019; this new framework needs to be ready for deployment should the opportunity ever arise to implement it (a government in waiting – which exists before all political revolutions). In the short term, we also need to identify the enforcement activities and legislation with broad public support that will create incentives to slow and reverse the demise of the West within the existing political framework – so we can begin coherently driving the political systems across the Western World toward the required repair activities (starting with the low hanging fruit – mostly enforcement of existing laws). This work requires 1) an understanding of European evolutionary psychology and 2) a cross functional approach to dissect and analyze the behavioral, political, and economic controls that were not in place when our civilization was hijacked by a hostile alien (and sociopathic) elite. What entities are doing this important analytical work to lay the foundations for a new governmental, economic, and cultural consensus via a critique of the liberal democratic system and proposal of concrete solutions that can ameliorate the fundamental flaws? We need National Populist consilience with a program of action – a Think Tank and political lobby. The work begins with problem definition, proceeds to root cause identification, and ultimately should result in perscriptive actions to eliminate the failure mode.
Over the past few days, I have already seen GOP loyalists gearing up to blame the 2nd amendment voters for a 2020 loss.
How many people does Hunter Wallace reach? a few hundred at most? I don’t think he or anyone else on the alt-right have much influence.
The ideal solution is political and always has been. All capable white advocates should be running for public office and attempting to work their way up as high as they can. However, the most important thing is to get elected in the first place. Do not call yourself a white nationalist. Do not sperg about Jews. Look respectable, be respectable. Greg Johnson, Hunter Wallace, and the national populists have all shown what the winning platform is: social conservatism, economic nationalism/populism, non-interventionist foreign policy, and anti-immigration. I would also add a moderate pro-environment message. You can drop pro-white dog whistles along the way, but you should only reveal yourself to be a white nationalist after you have reached your political potential. Even then, it might be wise to refrain until one of us has taken the White House.
I don’t know why more white nationalists, separatists, advocates, whatever, haven’t run for office. Maybe it’s because so many are former libertarians, so they have an inherent disdain for the idea. Or maybe they’re afraid of public speaking, or think they would have to compromise their beliefs to get elected. None of those things matter. Besides, what is public speaking compared to getting shot at? Because that’s where this is all heading if the political solution fails or is never attempted at all. What matters is winning, even if you have to lie to do it. This is how Jews obtain power. They are masters of subtlety and deception.
Should we run as Republicans or Democrats? That is the key question. Both have their pros and cons. Democrats have the advantage of shifting demographics and non-white voters that will vote Democrat reflexively. A significant percentage of whites can likely be convinced to vote for a Democrat with the right platform. Republicans have the advantage of being the most anti-immigrant and pro-white. Maybe we should run as both.
“wHy hAvEn’T wHiTe NaTiOnAlIsT rUn fOr 0fFicE”
You won’t listen to a “wignat” but Sam Dickson has already explained this.
Americans and Anglos have lived under a stable democracy for so long we can’t perceive politics outside of elections.
What does running for office mean? Filing paper work at city hall?
Liberalism obfuscate power behind a variety of institutions, and no one really knows who’s in charge.
The democrat and republican party’s are not stand alone entity’s. Each major political party has a wide variety of corporations and non-profits all working on partisan goals. Activists groups eg dsa, lobbying groups, think tanks, PR firms, civic institutions eg unions/churches, research groups, polling agencies, private media etc etc
Saying I’m going to start a new political party is like saying ‘I’m going to start my own business, I do not have a business attorney, an accountant, start up capital, a retail space or distribution on my product- but I got the llc registered and filed.’
The same logic follows for anyone saying they’re going to use magic optics to sneak in the Republican Party.
Unless you have all the external political structures you don’t have a chance to take power. And if you do like trump you’re doomed because he didn’t have any infrastructure or networks to support him and his agenda.
We are along way from electoral politics. We have A LOT of work to do.
These are all good points, but do they really constitute an argument for not running for office? The person you are responding to is not talking about creating a third party from scratch. He is talking about entryism. I don’t see any reason why entryism would not work for us. It should not be our only tool. But it should be one of them.
It can be done with the right policy proposals, good public speaking, and no associations with pro-white organizations that can be discovered by investigating journalists. It can be done with both parties, but obviously, one would probably have to start local or go for the House of Representatives to work their way up.
Any political infrastructure you see now is the consequence of the electoral politics of the past. The Democratic Party didn’t establish a bunch of activist groups and lobbies before running their first candidate. Suppose Trump had managed to start the wall construction earlier. Then now he would have new political infrastructure (an entrenched construction lobby) fighting for even more wall and his agenda.
But the question for us is whether we should take a bottom-up approach in focusing on local and winnable elections for less significant offices (the Democratic Socialists are doing this) or if we should focus on some kind of third party. I think the latter approach would be a big waste of time. The worst approach would be to ignore politics/legal activism at all levels of government.
Small point about language. The word, as everyone I know uses it, is “wigger.” “Whigger” sounds odd; part of its oddness is that it seems to imply that “Whig” is a root word. The word “wigger” viscerally conveys its meaning. I recall an episode of The Jerry Springer Show many years ago in which a teenage white boy was confronted by classmates whom he called “wiggers,” not “whiggers.” So the difference in usage is not regional. NO ONE (apart from C-C folks) says, “Look as those whiggers in baggy pants”!
Imagine Jared Taylor saying it.
But yes, I misspelled it. It is fixed now.
Actually itz spelt “Whigger” as in “Whigger Problem”
The commenter above is wrong as a whigger can be. It might of used-to-be to be spelled “wigger” but today in the daze of now it is spelled “Whigger”, as in “Whigger Problem” which is the title cut of my first LP “Whigger Problem” from 2010.
This parody mp3 Album Cover of “Whigger Problem” was created by some probable NIM-Buster tard to serve for the single “Whigger Problem” for Pastor Lindstedt’s “The Movement Turd” podcast. In this album cover it shows the sundry jew and mongrel and whigger ZOGtards pretending to be Christian Identity pastors, like William Finck, James Wickstrom, Mike Delaney, Eli James, Dan Johns and a photoshopped Xuqa.com picture of Bryan Reo all as puppets of the Southern Poverty Law Center jew Mark Potok. Pastor Lindstedt and his little demon-dog Buddy the Poopy Dawg / Baalzepup Pisser-Possum Bane are pictured as aloof from this fakery. Bryan Reo then sent in a DMCA Take-Down Notice so as to take down this parody of a parody picture of Bryan Reo, and Pastor Lindstedt simply took this photo down rather than to fight the matter out on CrisisHost.com back in mid-2011.
Video (On Youtube until April Gaede & Bryan Reo cumplaints led to my entire jewTube Channel Purge):
(Intro to the Talksjew “Flush Rimblow Shoah” back in Feb 2016 which was me wearing a $1.78 hottt pink polyester wig I bought at Walmart post-Halloween. Talksjew censored the program as well being Canuckistani whiggers [d]ruled by jews.)
Anyways I am also credited with the moral injunction to “Beat down jewr inner-whigger” at least until it dares not do anythang but whimper at odd moments.
Yes, the proper spelling of “whigger” is WHIGGER. And what ails ZOG is nothing other than the effect of 100 million whiggers and this problem won’t be solved short of collapse into survival of only 10-20 million ex-whiggers ruled over by Ten Thousand Warlords.
Bradifer Griffin’s problem is that he is a bi-polar whigger whose ideological frame of reference is akin to a 100-foot steel ping-pong ball painted white inside and Bradifer is one of them hard-rubber bouncy space-balls you used to get in a novelty machine parked outside a restaurant or one of the old-time truck stops or bowling alleys. Bradifer stakes out some foolishness or another, some of it dangerous like Charlottesville 2017, and then when it cums back to bite him on the ass as it always does, Bi-polar Bradifer bounces off the steel-walls and cums to rest somewhere within the [Bowel] Movement, usually somewhere on the other side of the idiotological steel ping-pong ball that makes up Bradifer’s world.
Us old-timers refer to it as “Bradifer going all Cunthair Walrus on us again.”
Hail Victory !!!
Pastor Martin Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian / Aryan Nations of Missouri
Trump is seeking the approbation of his political enemies: not a good move. Trump is cucking on the 2A and if anything will turn me against him; it’s that. He is not allowed to compromise on that issue.
Paging Mr. Dewey…
Calling an election 451 days before it takes place is a bad idea.
Wignats serve the interests of the Federal and jewish agents that sponsor them.
So to say that “wignats met their waterloo at Charlottesville”, is completely in error. Cville represented the triumph of the wignats and Feds over the normal people in the white nationalist movement.
Also, when we understand that wignats, Feds, and Jews are all functionally on the same side, it shouldn’t surprise us one bit that the wignats are lining up hard against Trump.
Wignats can be classified three ways: (1) current Federal agents and/or informants, (2) future Federal agents and/or informants, (3) people who are covertly/anonymously sponsored by Feds or Jews, or (4) useful idiots and fellow travelers.
Your definition of “wignat” can be characterized in one way – people who disagree with me. Lumping accelerationists and “Never Again Trumpers” with Feds and Zionists is a purity spiral at best, smear politics at worst. Fanatics who will punch Right against anyone who disagrees with them on tactics despite the fact that their targets genuinely believe in and have sacrificed for the pro-White cause are what caused WN 1.0 to implode on the launch pad. A mature political movement knows how to broaden the tent without bringing it down. We’re still in the learning stages on this, more like WN 1.5 than WN 2.0.
I respectfully disagree with you, Mr. Johnson, on the outcome of the 2020 election. I sense President Trump will be re-elected in a landslide victory.
I do agree with you on criticizing his downfalls constructively, which is why I sent a detailed response to the White House after that disaster of a speech he gave last Monday about the shootings. Whoever wrote that for him should be fired because if he continues down that road, your prediction may be the correct one.
Trump and the entire GOP are pain-killers and soporifics which keep the patient content and sedated while the cancer eats out its guts. I don’t seek burger nat Boomers as an enemy per se, but so long as they keep preaching “at least he’s better than Hillary” they are an albatross that must be removed from our necks.
With all due respect to Greg, we’re not going to unite 60 million Americans into even a sympathetic, much less supportive, maintstream political movement for White separatism and identity. We need a million dedicated people who’re willing to vote with their feet and put skin in the game beyond playing kosher sandwich politics. 25% is the commonly recognized threshold for an intransigent minority to tip the social scales, but we need to demonstrate intransigence first. You don’t signal “we’re mad as Hell and we’re not going to take it anymore” by playing lesser-evil kosher sandwich Overton politics. Trump has proven that in spades.
The GOP and Trump need to be taught the price of serial disloyalty and barely disguised contempt toward their base.
It think it is just nuts to maintain that the net effect of Trump has been to keep people asleep and content with the GOP.
You can’t withstand a siege with a Fifth Column inside the walls. Trump failed to perform. Obama did more to rouse White awareness than two McCains or Romneys would have. God Emperor Trump would have been a net positive. Donald J. Bush has been a Judas Goat. Those two factors make destroying the fake Right my top electoral priority. GOP delenda est, then we recalibrate strategy.
I just read Andrew Joyce’s piece on the “Thatcher Effect” at TOO. That piece makes my argument re: Trump better than I have here. Hat’s off to Andrew – what he said x2.
Out best chance to defeat a so-called comprehensive immigration reform is for a Dem president to push for it and a GOP Congress to resist it. Under Trump in his second term we will get the worst excesses of the GOP elite shoved down our throats. The GOP Congress will go along with it. Almost every concern we have is now worse under Trump than it wa under Obama and a second term will likely be a disaster for nationalists. I can’t fathom how anyone thinks that while Trump is admittedly disappointing that he is somehow protecting is from the even worse Democrat waiting to persecute is even more. It isn’t that simple. The GOP persecutes nationalists even more than than Dems because they want to virtue signal how “not racist” they are. The GOP congress would have resisted a Clinton administration doing to us what Trump’s DOJ have done.
Trump is toast in 2020 no matter what.
He let demographic replacement and voter fraud go unchecked.
He is now turning against the first and second Amendment rights of his base.
He will lose in a landslide.
By the time the next president comes in, there will be millions of new invaders inside our borders.
Then the race war will kick off in the summer of 2021.
White Nationalists need to ask ourselves if we are going to be among the people who fought against white dispossession who who declared ourselves accelerationists to own Trump and the GOP.
Which course makes it more likely we will be able to lead a genuine revolutionary National Populist movement?
The number of people who would hold our opposition against us would be small and almost entirely composed of politically and culturally dim personality cultists who will never either make a dependable and lasting commitment to a legitimate movement for change or be an asset if they did so.
That said, all of this concern about angering the Burger Nats who can’t break the Red-Blue frame rests on the idea that we’re going to win this struggle through the current electoral process. I’m already 5PT on this. We need people who are willing and able to think and operate outside the existing Overton Window, and that doesn’t make them “wignats” by definition. Loosely associating guys like Hunter Wallace with WN 1.0 and shooters amounts to punching Right against serious guys with serious ideas that you simply disagree with on tactics. It’s counter=productive and unfair. You fight your way, we’ll fight ours, but let’s elevate the discourse above mud-slinging about who’s acting “non-White.” Calling people wignats over tactical disagreements is verging on Vox Day 16 points territory and also seems like an attempt to take ownership of White Nationalism.
I agree with Z Man’s recent post that we’re not at a stage where anyone can or should claim to “lead” the White Nationalist movement. We saw that with Spencer and the Alt-Right and all it does is provide a target for the anti-White media to attack and a means to split like-minded and like-intended men who support the White cause over strategic and tactical points that none of us can claim to be more valid or superior under reasonably objective criteria, either during their deployment or in historical effect.
I appreciate your thoughts, but I disagree with some of your points.
First, as a matter of simple fact, I am not assimilating Hunter with 1.O or shooters. I am simply arguing that the idea that WNs should be openly calling for handing the nation over to the Left to punish “Blompf” or the GOP is short-sighted and self-defeating. I think Trump will be defeated in any case, but no matter what the outcome, we should be positioning our movement to be the standard-bearers of populism in the post-Trump era. That is not consistent with burn baby burn accelerationist posturing.
Second, I don’t agree with the idea that we can afford to engage in accelerationist posturing as an emotional self-indulgence because people will forgive it and the people who won’t are just dumb burger Americans we can write off. I don’t think contempt for our natural constituency is a constructive attitude. I think a lot of people are in a social media echo chamber egging each other on to ratchet up the “Fuck Blompf” rhetoric. So if we’re all just engaged in signaling and grandstanding, which kind is best: competing to be the fashiest goy on GAB or building connections with the Trump electorate? Pandering to 60 million normies — or a tiny online fringe? You are only a vanguard if you actually lead people somewhere. Otherwise, you’re just a self-marginalizing radical sect.
Greg, the picture you chose for this article is unnecessary. It’s like your going out of your way to cause a problem. C’mon, man
LOL dude, it’s just a meme.
I believe that trump was brought to heel by threatening his son Don Jr with prosecution via some trumped up charges.
But i don’t think trump’s populist talk was based on his convictions, or if he had those convictions, I don’t think they were strong convictions. And yes, i will be voting Dem …to punish trump and other GOP politicians who betrayed us.
“Trump did not have to take these positions to win.”
Look at the RealClear Politics poll numbers for the summer of 2015.
[Note: Please redraft and cite the numbers and timeline.]
Trump is a flash in the pan. All that really matters is more white babies.
The fix was in before the election when Trump groveled before AIPAC. His purpose was to short-circuit any chance of a nationalist candidate and run out the clock while delivering as many benefits to Israel as possible. If reelected, at best, Trump will offer a slow version of defeat. If he treats his base like he has BEFORE re-election, what is he going to do AFTER re-election?
In my case, it doesn’t matter as it is deep blue.
BOY LOOK WHO WAS RIGHT IN THE END. WIGNAT TOTAL VICTORY, OPTICS CUCKS OWNED.
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