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Meme War II: European Vacation

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What to do about Tommy Robinson has long been a moral quandary for the Dissident Right. The purist position was, “No, the guy is a narcissist conman controlled by Zionist Jews” – which no one on our side really disputes.

But there was the pragmatist argument, which went, “Okay, so Tommy is a shady character and a Zio-shill with Jew handlers, but he had a large audience of the kind of people we want: white, angry, patriotic, and energetic British proles. Tommy’s fans were the Glengarry leads, ripe for the red-pilling. Might it not be better to approach them as friends?”

But more than that, Tommy’s movement seemed to be all Britain had. He was the only guy with any momentum. The British National Party (BNP) was in shambles, and there wasn’t much of a Dissident Right in Britain. That was still mostly an American thing. Tommy’s movement was the closest thing to an identitarian movement with wide appeal and capable of mobilizing significant numbers of people. It wasn’t identitarian per se, but if you were drunk and squinted yours eyes, it vaguely resembled one.

And then there were arguments over whether Tommy qualified as “the enemy of our enemy” (the establishment did seem to legitimately hate him). The debate over whether to take down Tommy’s movement from the outside or to subvert it from the inside raged on.

It looks like Tommy Robinson Inc. has resolved that debate for us. After a string of high-profile defections, controversies, and Dissident Right ideas seeping into Tommy’s fanbase, Team Tommy have declared all-out war on ethnonationalists. So war it is. I guess that means “take it down from the outside” wins.

Tommy Robinson with Avi Yemini & Ezra Levant

Brian Bishko, aka Brian of London

I think we all knew that a showdown with Tommy Inc. would happen eventually, but I don’t think anyone expected it to happen so soon. But with their release of the video “The Elephant In the Room,” Team Tommy has declared war on ethnonationalists in general and Mark Collett in particular.

With Mr. Robinson now in jail, Tommy’s foreign Jewish handlers and lieutenants have taken full control of Tommy Inc.’s entire brand and media apparatus without the influence of the operation’s one gentile: Robinson himself. And without the presence of that one gentile (however cucked he may be), these foreign Jews have gone, as the blacks say, “buck wild.”

I’m talking about foreign Jews like Canadian Ezra Levant of Rebel Media, the money man. Then there is Avi Yemini, an ex-IDF soldier who lives in Australia and who runs TR News – and who was recently charged with assaulting his wife. Rounding out the unholy trinity is Brian Bishko, South African-born but now a ten-year resident of Tel Aviv who goes by the name Brian of London on social media – because he lived there once upon a time. Why have all these Jews who don’t live in the UK taken such a great interest in a British nationalist movement? One wonders . . .

These are the people controlling Tommy’s brand in his absence; it’s a whole new ballgame. Tommy’s a carpetbagger, but his Jewish handlers are committed Zionist Jews. You can expect a lot more petty vindictiveness, Holocaust guilt-tripping, Nazi analogies, disingenuous arguments, and a more intense sense of urgency to crush any sign of awakening white identity among those who will listen to them than if they were mere con men.

The Daily Stormer has been covering this story closely and striking nerves along the way.

There is some disagreement as to how much Tommy Robinson is involved in what’s going on, or if these things would be happening if he were not in prison. Many people, fans and critics alike, seem to make a distinction between Tommy the Man and Tommy the Movement. There are some critics of Tommy the Movement who say that it’s rotten and has completely gone to hell, but who still think well of Tommy the Man – one even suggesting that Robinson may be secretly woke on the JQ. But Tommy’s Jewish handlers insist that Tommy the Man is being kept informed of developments and approves of them. But whatever is actually the case, even if his Jewish handlers are saying and doing things that Tommy the Man would disapprove of, the fact remains that these are his people who he appointed and left in charge. The best-case scenario is that he’s a bad judge of character.

Ezra Levant must be feeling a mix of dread and déjà vu. Levant saw Rebel Media’s North American ambitions thrown into disarray first-hand by the rise of White Nationalism sweeping the US. One such example was Gavin McInnes, a one-time contributor at Rebel who left to start the Proud Boys. (McInnes has recently returned to the Rebel fold.) But the most embarrassing episodes of Levant’s North American adventure was when two of Rebel Media’s heavily-promoted women, Faith Goldy and Lauren Southern, went rogue on him. Goldy and Southern rose to prominence under the Rebel brand, but gradually became exposed to and sympathetic towards white identitarian ideas. Goldy was fired from Rebel for appearing on a Daily Stormer podcast and spent some time afterwards bumming around White Nationalist circles. She famously said the 14 Words on a Millennial Woes stream.

Southern, on the other hand, was fired under mysterious circumstances rumored to be the result of some kind of insubordination. But post-Rebel, she started palling around with European identitarians, and her content became more focused on issues of interest to the Dissident Right, such as the situation in South Africa and the European migrant crisis. Whether or not Lauren Southern ever truly qualified as “White Nationalist,” she was branded as one by the media, which surely annoyed Levant, who strove to avoid such associations.

Faith Goldy & Lauren Southern in their blue-pilled Rebel Media days.

With Rebel’s North American enterprise falling apart, what did Ezra Levant do? He went to the UK, teamed up with Tommy Robinson (who has his own fake-edgy Alt Lite Zionist operation going on), and starts the grift machine up again. The best part about going to the UK for him was that the “Alt Right” hadn’t caught on there yet. Team Tommy could afford to dismiss the “Alt Right” as a primarily middle-class American phenomenon (with Millennial Woes being the one high-profile British outlier). It was an extension of America’s greater Trumpian Zeitgeist, posing little threat to his “British working class” movement with roots in British soccer culture and whatnot. Most of the major players were American. Its style, sensibility, and irony were very American. Ezra Levant was thus free to make a pretty pence off the well-meaning working class patriots of old Blighty without those darned White Nationalists sticking their little button noses in where they don’t belong.

But the British contingent of the Dissident Right has started coming into its own lately. With America cornering the White Nationalist blog and podcast scene, the Brits took to YouTube, and have become a significant presence in the post-Internet Bloodsports era. There are now several prominent British content creators making race-woke videos from a British-centric perspective. Way of the World has emerged as one of the most respected and popular content creators in our circles, garnering more than a hundred thousand subscribers by making top-grade normie-friendly and red-pilled content. Scotsman Millennial Woes and Englishman On the Offensive both have respectable subscriber followings, and Morgoth’s Review, an obscure blogger a few years ago, has acquired a devoted following since expanding into YouTube, and recently became the subject of national controversy when Morrissey posted one of his videos on his official site.

But the breakout star of the last few years has been ex-BNP Youth Leader Mark Collett. Unlike most of the Dissident Right, who are children of the Internet, Collett comes from the world of real-life activism and electoral politics. Having parted ways with the BNP,  he has turned to online pro-white activism. First teaming up with another Brit, Tara McCarthy, as co-host of This Week on the Alt Right, he was also a favorite guest on the David Duke Show. What works on the Internet does not always work well in real life (see Charlottesville), but Collett has proven that his skills and experiences translated well to the Internet as he has become one of White Nationalism’s most visible social media presences. He brings a different approach than a lot of us meme warriors. His presentation style is not flashy or overloaded with infinite layers of irony. He is very optics-conscious, sticks to the basic facts and talking points, and communicates them in a way that is accessible to average white working-class people. It’s simple, but effective, and Collett is increasingly becoming the “face” of the British Dissident Right.

Collett has been a particular thorn in Tommy Robinson’s side. Collett and Robinson’s antipathy for each other is well-known, and it’s easy to see why Robinson would be threatened by Collett. A major part of Robinson’s public persona is his supposed working class “street cred.” He used to be involved in soccer hooliganism. He’s run with some tough crowds, gone to prison, and seen a thing or two. But the problem for Robinson is that Collett can match Robinson in “street cred.” He’s working class himself, and he’s been fighting for white Britons for going on two decades now. Collett was being oppressed by the British establishment for talking about Muslim grooming gangs before anyone had ever heard of Tommy Robinson.

There was a recent skirmish between the two camps. In a recent livestream, Collett single-handedly took on four Zionist Jews from Team Tommy, including the aforementioned Brian of London, a top Robinson lieutenant. Collett performed so well that the stream was promptly deleted. It is for the reasons above – and more that will be explained below – that Team Tommy has decided to cast Mark Collett as the anti-Tommy Robinson, the Basil Rathbone to his Errol Flynn, in their war against ethnonationalists.

While the above may only have a fraction of Tommy Robinson’s reach (there’s probably a large degree of overlap in their fanbases, and a high percentage of those people are Americans), the fact is that Britain now has enough homegrown talent that it can form its own scene within the greater Dissident Right landscape.

This is bad news for Tommy. One of the strongest arguments for supporting Tommy Robinson was that while he was deeply flawed (to put it mildly), he was simply all the UK had. There wasn’t much Dissident Right presence after National Action got shut down. Tommy was it. It was either Tommy, or total globohomo. Take your pick. But now there is a growing ethnonationalist community giving the British people another option. Tommy is looking less like the only game in town.

The first shot of Meme War 2: European Vacation was fired by Team Tommy into its own foot. For a long time, Tommy Robinson has been hyping up and soliciting funds for a documentary called The Rape of Britain that was alleged to be an explosive, four-hour deep dive into the Muslim grooming gangs and the mass rape of English girls. But when Tommy Robinson at last announced his latest documentary, it was not The Rape of Britain but was in fact called Shalom, a documentary about some old Jewish guy who had to flee Britain for Israel because Muslim immigrants were bringing in too much anti-Semitism, essentially portraying Jews as the main victims of Muslim immigration. This was a deep betrayal of his overwhelmingly white gentile fans who, unlike Shalom’s protagonist, have no such escape hatch. The old safe havens of America, Canada, and Australia are arguably in worse shape. Britain is the hill they have to die on.

Most of Tommy’s fans probably don’t know much about Zionism other than that it has something to do with Jews. They have, though, probably heard their hero called a Zionist shill or a Jewish shill before, and maybe they didn’t know exactly what that meant. But the Shalom curveball got a lot of Tommy’s fans asking questions.

Shazia Hobbs

In America, we like to joke about based black guys in Trump hats. But in the UK, it’s ex-Muslims: people who were raised Muslim but then saw the light and realized that the West is in fact the best, and then become anti-Islam activists. And just as the based black guy will do the bit about how “it’s not you white people, it’s really welfare and bad fathers holding us back,” the ex-Muslims do the routine about how “Islam is just as bad as you think it is and you are right to fear it.” It’s hope porn for Boomers. “If that one can figure it out, maybe the rest can, too!”

And, like based black guys in Trump hats, ex-Muslims are in high demand in civic nationalist movements desperate for a magic talisman which will give them +3 resistance to accusations of racism on a 1D20 saving throw. Half-Pakistani, half-Scottish Shazia Hobbs was one such ex-Muslim hired by Team Tommy, but then she got woke on the JQ and went rogue.

Hobbs grew up as the daughter of a mixed-race couple in Glasgow during the 1970s and ‘80s, when such things were still rare. She was raised Muslim and dealt with racial harassment from whites, but faced worse from her fellow Muslims. She left Islam after being subjected to abuse and became a staunch critic of the religion of peace. She has a written a novel inspired by her experience, and has done charity work with victims of Muslim grooming gangs.

Team Tommy hired Hobbs as a featured writer on TRNews, the official Tommy Robinson news site, writing articles critical of Islam from her own unique perspective. But her employers were aghast to learn that there was more to Shazia Hobbs than criticizing Islam. She wrote an article for TRNews about the Frankfurt School in which she blamed Jews for Communism (explicitly saying “the Bolsheviks were a Jewish sect”), and detailed how Jews were behind the creation of hate speech laws.

She wrote another spicy one called “Hypocrisy” about allegedly Right-wing and anti-PC people who complain about the Left calling every little thing “racist,” but who throw around the term “anti-Semitic” just as casually:

There are those who cry at being called Islamophobe yet think nothing of calling others anti-Semitic. These people sometimes threaten to sue for libel if called ‘racist’, while accusing others of being anti-Semitic often merely because they choose not to stand with Israel on every issue.

Most of the people on the right applaud and cheer when I speak the truth about Islam and the many harmful practices that occur in the Muslim communities. Yet many of these very same people are shocked and disgusted if I mention the Jews or Judaism in anything other than positive terms.

When TR News refused to publish one of Hobbs’ j-woke articles, she published it elsewhere. That was the last straw. Team Tommy cut ties with Shazia Hobbs and deleted all her previous articles. It was the whole damnatio memoriae treatment, like she had never existed. When fans were unconvinced that what she said was really that bad, Team Tommy was able to dig through her social media history to uncover some saucy j-woke humor. One time she referred to the British legal system as the “Jewdiciary.” She had also retweeted a tweet by j-woke musical satirist Alison Chabloz, which made reference to Tommy’s “Zionist handlers.” It’s not what Shazia Hobbs said that got her in trouble, but what she knew – which was entirely too much.

And it was revealed on a recent livestream that Shazia Hobbs had reached out to Robinson’s nemesis Mark Collett some months ago through a mutual acquaintance, and the two became fast friends. The natural suspicion from Team Tommy is that Collett had brainwashed poor Shazia and led her astray. But she would not be the last member of Team Tommy to jump ship.

Dionne Miller

Ex-police officer Dionne Miller, known online as Secret Sources, reminds me a bit of the aforementioned Alison Chabloz. A mild-mannered, middle-aged woman from the Midlands, she is a tad eccentric, but otherwise is your average everyday white woman. She’s not the kind of person you would expect to be super-woke on Jews – but boy, is she. And she’s really, really into Holocaust revisionism, too. She ran a modest YouTube channel of just a few thousand followers. She was recently invited to give a speech at Tommy’s July 4 event at the Old Bailey before he went into prison. Controversy then erupted after her extremely j-woke YouTube videos came to light (her YouTube channel has since been banned; subscribe to her new channel here).


But before Team Tommy could cut ties with her, Miller disavowed Tommy’s movement after a two-hour conversation with one of Tommy’s close friends. No sooner had she done that then she immediately made a video plea to Tommy’s rival Mark Collett:

Hello. This video is a direct plea to Mark Collett. Mark, I hope you get to watch this because I need your help . . . This journey of mine has brought me to one conclusion: that you are one hundred percent correct.

She then talks about Jewish control of the media, and says that the British government is owned by Saudi money and that the US is controlled by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. “It seems we are back in the age-old battle of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam,” she says. Watch the whole video. It’s pretty emotional.

Despite everything, however, Miller is still a defender of Tommy the Man. Even if she does think his movement has been hijacked by Zionist Jews, she believes Tommy the Man is a sincere and decent guy (he did give Miller her big break), and is confident that Tommy would not be allowing his handlers to run rampant as they are at the moment.

This gets us into the “Tommy is secretly based” theory.

Unlike Shazia Hobbs, who got red-pilled after being hired by Tommy Inc., Dionne Miller insists that she has been calling out the Jews for years, and has the videos to prove it. Additionally, she has a video message from Tommy Robinson saying that he and his mother watched and enjoyed Dionne Miller’s videos, and he would be happy to have her speak at his event. On July 4, Tommy again mentioned onstage while introducing Miller that he had watched many of her videos.

Mind you, Dionne Miller’s videos are all about Jews. So if Tommy is telling the truth, that means Tommy watches and enjoys Judeo-critical content. The alternative is that Tommy is lying, and that he had never seen her videos, but said so either to be polite or to lay on some flattery. And yet I find it hard to believe that Tommy would book a speaker for such an important event sight unseen. And it would be hard for him not to notice all the Jew stuff from even a cursory glance at her productions. So perhaps Tommy is either “down low” j-woke, or he is at least tolerant enough of such views that he doesn’t consider it a deal-breaker.

Look, I ain’t shilling for Tommy, but this is part of the story.

Lucy Brown

Before /pol/: Lucy Brown hanging out with Tommy Robsinson.

After /pol/: Lucy Brown (far right) hanging out with Based British (second from left), Mark Collett (center), and Millennial Woes (third from right).

Before Shazia Hobbs and Dionne Miller, there was Lucy Brown. Until as recently as 2016, Brown was largely apolitical. She briefly dabbled in liberal activism, but never quite felt at home among liberals. She then got involved with Tommy Robinson’s movement, became part of Tommy’s inner circle, and then rose to prominence when she was hired by Ezra Levant as a British correspondent for Rebel Media. But like all great Rebel Media e-thots, she was eventually fired, and then started hanging out with ethnonationalists.

By the time she was ousted from Tommyland, Lucy Brown was already growing disillusioned after viewing the shadiest of shady underbellies of the Alt Lite (she was roommates with Alt Lite conmen Caolan Robertson and George Llewlyn-John). She had started to have doubts about the purpose, optics, and usefulness of the #FreeTommy public demonstrations, and was thrown under the bus by Tommy shortly after going solo.

Still, Lucy Brown managed to carve out a niche as an independent journalist. She is Anne-Marie Waters’ first choice interviewer, and while she does not identify as a White Nationalist herself, she is on friendly terms with people on the British Dissident Right. She’s appeared on Millennial Woes and Mark Collett‘s livestreams, which is enough to cause scandal by itself.

But she did a recent stream with Morgoth’s Review which was so explosive it demanded a response from Team Tommy. Morgoth, himself a strident Tommy critic, thought it would be fun to get together with Lucy Brown, who has her own axe to grind with Team Tommy, and did a schadenfreude livestream about the ongoing controversies rocking the Tommy movement. Lucy provided some pretty damning gossip:

I know there’s a lot of cocaine going on behind the scenes. And I just think that’s thousands of pounds of potentially the money that people are giving you, because they’re living in areas that have been so affected by mass immigration and that anyone talking about it they see as a hero, and then you’re going to just go and waste all of that up your nose.

And as for Tommy’s followers getting red-pilled? “A lot of Tommy supporters are now starting to question why we have to all be pro-Israel.”

If you’re a Tommy-hater, this is the stream for you.

Brown has since gone into hiatus. She got the expected response from Team Tommy, but also took some flak from White Nationalists for not being one.

Lucy is still digesting a lot of the red pills. She “gets it” to some degree, but she’s still in what I like to call the “surely there must be another way!” phase. You know what I’m talking about: Those few weeks, to months, maybe years after you’ve first taken the red pill, and you think, “Okay, so maybe there is something to that whole race and IQ thing, and there sure do seem to be an awful lot of bad Jews out there. And yes, the anti-whiteness has gotten completely out of hand, and I’ll admit the demographics are kind of scary. But that doesn’t mean we all have to become Nazis, does it? That seems a tad extreme. I’ll admit things are bad, but Nazis? Surely there must be another way!” But then, a few months later, you’re saying, “It looks like the fate of mankind depends on every white person becoming a Nazi, or else we all end up slaves to Jewish bankers.”

Lucy is still in that in-between phase. She’ll get there. Letting go of old illusions is hard, but they are also hard to carry for long distances. But in the meanwhile, Lucy felt she was getting attacked on all sides, caught in the crossfire of an Internet civil war, and has withdrawn – the first casualty of Meme War II: European Vacation.

At this point, we have to wonder: Where are all the based American women? Germany produced Ursala Haverbeck and RageAfterStorm. Canada produced Faith Goldy and Lauren Southern. And Britain has produced all the red-pilled women in this article. America only has Ann Coulter, and she’s an honorary man. What is it about American culture that we produce so few based women compared to the rest of the white, or even Anglophone, world? Feel free to speculate in the comments.

You might think that this story is a refutation of the “white sharia” crowd, as the e-thots really came through this time. It’s women who are getting red-pilled and causing all this trouble for Tommy. They started something that could possibly culminate in the collapse of Tommy’s movement – something that even Hope Not Hate, the antifa, the mainstream media, large portions of the Dissident Right, and the British government couldn’t do. But of course the white sharia people could counter that this story actually proves the subversive nature of women. Virgin Civnat Tommy trusted these women with his movement, only to see them betray him for Chad ethnonationalists. If Tommy hadn’t let these women into his movement in the first place, he wouldn’t be having these embarrassing controversies. He’d still be running a thriving grift machine instead of a movement in crisis. It was the women who were his downfall. That’s how the game works. One day, your e-thot is telling you how based you are; the next day, she cucks you for someone even more based. Thus, if we let women in our movement, they may likewise one day eventually sell us all out to wignats.

The Elephant in the Room

But the fact that Tommy’s defectors are women presents a problem for Team Tommy, because they are so far removed from the “Nazi” stereotype. The fact that they are women is unusual in itself, but Shazia Hobbs is half-Pakistani, Dionne Miller is a middle-aged ex-cop, and Lucy Brown . . . well, Lucy used to be a Rebel Media e-thot, so her character arc was totally predictable, but the other two are playing against type. So the standard playbook (skinheads, mom’s basement, small penis, etc.) isn’t going to work on them.

There is also a degree of risk when it comes to “beating up a girl,” even a Nazi one. It can be bad optics if you go too hard. Some men’s protective instincts kick in, and before you know it, you end up looking like the bad guy. There is a significant subset of the population that would consider punching Richard Spencer acceptable, but would consider punching Evalion totally indefensible because she’s a girl.

So when it came time for Team Tommy to respond to the above controversies, they needed a man to be the primary target; someone they could beat up on and meme into a Hollywood Nazi stereotype. You’d have a hard time doing that with Shazia Hobbs, with her dark complexion and chirpy Northern accent. Dionne Miller looks like your elementary school teacher. But Collett has been in the public eye since he was a young edgelord. Collett lets them stick to the standard playbook.

The majority of “Elephant in the Room,” aka “How to Burn a Real Nazi,” comes from the BAFTA-winning documentary about Mark Collett called Young, Nazi, and Proud made in 2002, when Collett was 22 and just beginning his BNP career. In it, the Jewish journalist lied about his ethnicity to gain Collett’s trust, and recorded conversations with Collett that Mark thought were private, including positive things about Nazi Germany. The first half of the hit piece is just clips of this documentary interspersed with some commentary.

The narrator of “Elephant in the Room” has this slow, working-class, cockneyish, “hard man”-sounding voice. Not quiteThe Long Good Friday.” I mean, it’s kind of that vibe, but a little more understated. Knowing that Tommy Inc. is being widely accused of being Jewish shills, they got the most goyish and British-sounding guy they could get to narrate their Zionist propaganda. They were kind enough to print the words on the screen for Tommy’s elderly supporters, who are hard of hearing but still competent enough to work a computer.

“Tommy is his own man” is a new thing that Tommy’s handlers are trying to force into a meme. Tommy handler Brian of London repeated it again in his response to this video. According to Brian, the reason why Tommy’s tenure at Rebel didn’t work out is because Tommy couldn’t handle having a boss. He’s too much his own guy, too much of a rebel to have a bunch of suits breathing down his neck. That’s just how much his own guy Tommy is.

Much of this video looks like it was directed at his old Boomer audience. The video mentions some mean things Collett has said about Winston Churchill, and stresses that, by contrast, Tommy Robinson is Churchill’s number one fan. The implication here is that Tommy is the true British patriot who admires great British heroes, while Collett admires foreigners like mean ol’ Hitler.

In addressing Dionne Miller, the documentary stresses that six million Jews most definitely died, and emphasized that the claim was – and I quote – “not bullshit.”

The video ends with a clip of an interview Tommy Robinson did with Sargon of Akkad, where he talks at length about his dislike of White Nationalists, as well as all the based minority friends he knows and loves. Team Tommy goes all in on the blue pills. It’s pretty terrible. Don’t watch it. Instead, watch Mister Metokur’s stream about it with commentary – or, if you’re in a hurry and just want the gist, @jengasamurai on Twitter did a good point-by-point rebuttal.

They also conveniently turned off the comments and the share ratio. However, some of the original comments were screenshotted before they were turned off:

As I said, much of it appears to be directed towards his older audience, and they may know full well it will lose them young supporters. But the older fans have all the money. So if an ethnonationalist wave is breaking out, the first thing they’ll try to do is to attempt to inoculate their older fans against Britain’s most prominent ethnonationalists, and play up classic British memes about Churchill and the whole “our grandparents beat the Nazis and ended the Holocaust” thing.

Perhaps Tommy’s Jewish handlers know that they are fighting a lost cause; that, like in America, the British youth will eventually grow tired of the civic nationalism and look for something more authentic – which always ends up being ethnonationalism. Maybe they are just playing for time and trying to collect as many shekels as they can, while they can. If it was a movement concerned about its own future and that of the country, its youth would be the people they would most want to win over. Instead, they put out this blue-pilled video with History Channel-tier narratives, which young people who dabble in dark corners of the Internet are more cynical about.

This debacle has a lot of players in it, and there have been claims and counter-claims everywhere, drama happening over multiple livestreams, and shots being fired on Twitter. I’m sure there are entire subplots I missed. But one person who has been following it closely and commenting on it extensively is Nick Lawrie. Nick Lawrie was a normie civnat Tommy Robinson supporter, but began his red-pill journey a year ago after discovering Millennial Woes’ videos. He is now sympathetic to the Dissident Right. Like Dionne Miller, Nick Lawrie still thinks well of Tommy the Man, but believes his movement has become rotten to the core: “The ethnonationalists just seem to have more integrity.” Lawrie’s channel is interesting to watch as a document of a normal, working-class British guy red-pilling in real time. He has videos on every aspect of the recent Tommy controversies from a working-class perspective. Subscribe to him.

It would seem suicidal for Team Tommy to start an Internet war with the Dissident Right. It is here that having a large percentage of American fans gives Collett and his colleagues a big advantage over Team Tommy, because they can draw on some of the best trolls in the Anglosphere – seasoned meme warriors who eat Zionists and civnats for breakfast and can dominate the comments sections and amplify the response from our guys. Tommy’s audience of Boomers and pensioners, half of whom never learned how to program a VCR, are not going to be of much use in such a war.

Team Tommy’s biggest asset was always Tommy himself and his singular, snaky charisma. His handlers have all of Tommy Robinson’s vices, but none of his charm. Say what you like about Tommy, but he is a smooth operator. You don’t get to be as big as Tommy is without a high degree of talent for something. But now that Tommy the Man is in jail, and without Tommy’s salesmanship to put lipstick on the pig, Tommyism the Ideology is being exposed for what it is, and Tommy the Movement looks destined to go the way of the YouTube skeptic.


  1. Exile
    Posted August 9, 2019 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    FWIW, American women are more pedastaled & have more options inside the media window, particularly in Coulter’s generation and those immediately following. Regardless, no right wing movement worth its salt should worry itself over “where are our wahmen leaders?” Outliers like Queen Ann are fine, but I want my women leading from the home front while the business of culture war and politics is handled by men. Euro Alt-Thots are more ornamental than useful, and seem to promote drama more than the cause (not shocking). Not going to lose sleep on this.

    • Captain John Charity Spring MA
      Posted August 9, 2019 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

      It’s amazing that a blonde blue eyed recent law school graduate hasn’t occupied that space though.

      It’s so obvious a market gap to fill.

    • Ambrose Kane
      Posted August 9, 2019 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

      “Outliers like Queen Ann are fine, but I want my women leading from the home front while the business of culture war and politics is handled by men” – I agree. I want our women to be preoccupied with having lots of White babies and as homemakers. As for older women who are pro-White, they can serve in support roles for our cause. There is much for them to do.

      Part of the reason for our current demise is because White males abdicated their leadership role in the family, and in much of society. Like our White women, White males were beguiled by the feminist cult which wreaked havoc on the family.

      There is, then, a special need and responsibility for White men to return to their role as leaders of their people, and to eschew every last vestige of feminism and the lies of ‘gender equality.’ Once our White men are on board with what must be done and their leading role in the awakening and survival of our people, we will start to make significant progress in getting ourselves out of this mess.

      By the way, none of this means belittling, berating or manhandling our women. Nothing of that sort. In my opinion, as White men who are racially-conscious and who have returned to the values that made our people great, we ought to treat our women, especially our wives, with kindness, gentleness, and with deep respect. We would be wise to acknowledge their contributions to the home, our race and our movement. Most women are glad to follow the leadership of a man who is strong and dignified, and who has no confusion as to his role and identity.

    • Lothrop Evola
      Posted August 9, 2019 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

      There are quite a few redpilled American women out there. Lana Lokhteff, Bre Facheux, Lacey Lynn, Wife With a Purpose, Big Cat Kayla, Philosophicat, Blonde in the Belly of the Beast, the woman from Murdoch Murdoch. Plus others who don’t talk about the JQ but are definitely on our side, like Brittany Pettibone and Lauren Rose. It’s important to have them because we need to win over tens of millions more hearts and minds in this struggle, and every ally helps.

      • Posted August 10, 2019 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

        Great list, I would have offered a similar one. We need to continue to carve out a safe space for our talented women … there is also Carolyn Emerick who is perhaps –next to Lana– the most prominent pagan. Another thoughtful based pagan- Rachel Summers.

        A-lass, many impressive younger women have been heckled from the stage by manospheral mgtow-esque jerk-offs. These fuckwits are as loathsome as the Silicohen valley stasi– maybe they’re in cahoots

      • Ambrose Kane
        Posted August 11, 2019 at 2:19 am | Permalink

        “There are quite a few red-pilled American women out there.” – I agree with you, but in large measure these women are outliers. They are the exceptions and not the norm. Some of them aren’t even married nor desire to produce children which isn’t good for our racial survival if enough of these “red-pilled” women feel the same. Women who are racially-conscious should serve in support roles for our movement, and as motivators and role-models to other White women as a means of combatting our people’s mass confusion over gender roles, including the role of women in the home and society which has been so badly corrupted by Cultural-Marxism.

        My main point, however, was that women should not be the face of our movement. They should not be the leaders of it, giving it direction and all that goes with such a task. To do otherwise will prove to be a disaster as every pro-women social-political movement in history has shown itself to be. Given them the right to vote has resulted in some of the most insane and culturally disastrous social policies in the history of our republic.

        Again, I’m not denying that “every ally helps,” and that racially-aware White women can definitely help our cause. We need them. But that’s not the same as saying we ought to place them in positions of leadership within our movement, especially when one seriously considers the more innate or natural proclivities of women – namely, (1) that they tend not be inclined toward critical-thinking and are less analytical generally than men; (2) are natural nurturers which often translates to coddling and even enabling those who should be called to account and given a sharp rebuke; (3) are often gullible and easily misled. Is it any wonder why so many religious charlatans and political phonies so often have large numbers of women as their base? Corporations that produce commercials long ago learned how easily fooled women are, and they invest billions annually not because women are so discerning but because they are so gullible and easily manipulated. And (4) women are creatures of the heart and not necessarily of the mind (yes, I know there exceptions). They are emotionally-oriented and often suffer from extreme do-goodery. They are natural ‘helpers,’ and while this may be a good thing now and then, it often turns into something horrific when they are given a platform and positions of leadership that they are not designed to handle.

        • Exile
          Posted August 11, 2019 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

          Could not agree more. The readiness of some here to white knight on this by rushing to salve the potential hurt feelings of women and reinforce their importance as “50% of the vote” shows how deep the rejection of biological reality has culturally saturated even the hard Right. There’s a clear line between presenting our beliefs tactfully and sugar-coating them, and reinforcing feminist shibboleths goes beyond tact into dishonesty. I don’t see how reinforcing the ideas we’re attacking b/c “voters” can be good for us mid to long term.

      • Matt
        Posted August 11, 2019 at 8:19 am | Permalink

        That may be so, but these women serve a valuable purpose red-pilling people. Plus, most of us get our ideas from other people. What original content have you created?

    • threestars
      Posted August 11, 2019 at 9:41 am | Permalink

      >Regardless, no right wing movement worth its salt should worry itself over “where are our wahmen leaders?”

      Literally no serious political movement should worry about gender parity among its cadre. But that’s a far cry from actively discouraging women to take part, or putting them under a level of extreme scrutiny far beyond what’s applied to any male member.

      Please tell me, what exactly do you find objectionable about the behavior of the women cited in this article? All of them put their own principles, intuition, or beliefs over conforming with the Jewish line towed by Robinson’s handlers, and the “drama” only came after the Jewish tenants started liberally screeching over their incomplete affiliation once left in charge by a hapless Tommy (let’s face it, the guy’s just a charismatic prole). Even the author’s take is “why aren’t the men in Robinson Inc. doing the same”? — well, except that soft-spoken guy at the end who dramatically fails in the personality, charisma, and media skills departments when compared to that “e-thot” Lucy Brown. (more power to him, btw. I subscribed)

      Or are you referring to nothing in particular when saying that women are better at causing drama than furthering the message? Just some vaporous statement, reflecting your general feelings towards women, with very little in the way of representation in concrete reality.

      I honestly think the latter hits the jackpot. I have quite a deal of experience arguing with people who are overly-preoccupied with women’s “place in the movement” and their ability to make a case is mostly limited to regurgitating a boilerplate statement of beliefs, pretty much like American blacks arguing for reparations.

      • Exile
        Posted August 11, 2019 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

        Your triggered armchair psychoanalysis supports the position I stated. As for disputing that women are more prone to cause social drama than men, explain the existence of men’s only clubs throughout Europe in the pre-Woke dark ages of recent history without using terms related to “patriarchy” or “oppression.” You’ve done everything short of attacking my penis size to demonstrate why wahmen (my first guess) and white-knights, with outlying exceptions, are unfit for the manly business of politics and culture war.

  2. Rob Bottom
    Posted August 9, 2019 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    I feel the author has rather rudely forgotten one Lana Lokteff. Otherwise a great piece.

    • Ike35
      Posted August 12, 2019 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

      He just meant lately. Lana has been switched on for years.

  3. Joe Gould
    Posted August 9, 2019 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    For some reason, the donation page is refusing my credit card, so please accept verbal thanks instead. The Tommy Robinson mess is confusing, and this article was very helpful understanding it.

  4. Proofreader
    Posted August 10, 2019 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Perhaps a good title for a video replying to “The Elephant in the Room” would be “The Camel’s Nose under the Tent.”

  5. threestars
    Posted August 10, 2019 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    >Virgin Civnat Tommy trusted these women with his movement, only to see them betray him for Chad ethnonationalists

    Christs, White Sharia denizens sound like resent-filled retards even when quoted hypothetically! Tommy trusted a bunch of Jewish men with his movement. The women in question were the only ones to not conform like stupid sheep to the alpha leader of the gang.

    • threestars
      Posted August 10, 2019 at 3:50 am | Permalink

      *even in hypotheticals

      Damn, why can’t we edit?

    • Disordered Deacon
      Posted August 11, 2019 at 2:48 am | Permalink

      yeah, because the historically ever-present female outliers, for whom we should be thankful for mind you, prove the others can fill the same role. not.

      that said, even if the true intellectuals and muscle of the redpilled movement will be mostly men, the outlier women can and do help MUCH more as faces and communicators of the movement. specially they can reach out to normie yet young white families, not just older ones. this is because these younger wives are in peak nurturing periods, and can and should be encouraged to look after their race and its offspring first, as opposed to cats, their lgbt petfriends, or children of lesser foreign males. by extension, these redpilled women reach the small but increasing amount of young yet nonpc single women, not just based single males – who also need some eyecandy, tbh. otherwise, the mgtow cultists get too close and the (((feminists))) pull the white women away with their accompanying fearmongering and pretty shiny aesthetics.

      and again while i do favor the patriarchy, even barely-racialist trad catholics mention the woman as a subaltern, a communicator, a vessel, a distinct form of art – and in some instances and spheres even a leader. obviously this varies with ethnogroup; but at any rate, women, and specially white women, are not the useless tool for reproduction the white sharia types would seem to indicate sometimes. ergo, the movement has to care for white women accordingly, specially the more scandinavian types, so their inner hajnal strength can be used for strengthening white families and communities – rather than destroying them like the (((feminists))) want.

      adding to all the examples of redpilled women mentioned, i remember the afd poster showing german girls that the immigrants were coming for their bikinis to replace them with burqas. that was only risque enough, and quite effective because it indirectly also got them thinking about whose seed they get in their womb as well. not to mention, movements start with aesthetics, and the female form and the care of it was always a safe aesthetic bet – and yes, it was good eyecandy. seriously though, this messaging also has to continue, and be mixed with the more typical one of “old white christian lady surrounded by 7 paki kids in train”, as well as the man-provoking one showing the teeming rows of muslim men attempting to storm ceuta.

      although then again, i am not a descendant of inner hajnals, so take this all with your north sea grains of salt.

    • Oakley
      Posted August 12, 2019 at 10:09 am | Permalink

      “What is it about American culture that we produce so few based women compared to the rest of the white, or even Anglophone, world? Feel free to speculate in the comments.”

      My suspicion is that it has something to do with the heterogeneous quality of the white population in modern America and accompanying decline in social trust, most other Anglophone countries haven’t spent the last 200 years actively unravelling their own ethnogenesis.

  6. Posted August 10, 2019 at 4:00 am | Permalink

    Mark Collett has real world organizational skills. We should all learn from him and set up similar events to his Lunacy Run and physical fitness groups whenever we can. Communal activity is the key to building up a meatspace movement.

  7. AAA
    Posted August 10, 2019 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    I’d like to thank Travs for an excellent and well-overdue analysis of this current situation. A few points:

    Collett rightly, in my opinion, urged Nationalists in the North West of England (where Tommy was standing in the EU elections) to vote for Tommy. (The TR movement conveniently seems to omit this fact.) To me this was a wise move and could have been based on showing the majority of Tommy fans (who have no allegiance to the Zionist handlers) that we Nationalists are not their enemy.

    Recently, Collett –in my opinion, again wisely– has refused to castigate Tommy (a man in prison with no ability to defend himself) until Tommy is free and gives his opinion of these recent shenanigans.

    And so, with these points made, I think it also wise for Diion to hold out for Tommy in the hope he sees the light. If he does not, and stands by Avi, Brian of Zion, et al, then we ought to revise our situation.

    Think about it: if Tommy comes out of prison and sees Nationalists, and his followers who have been expelled from TR News, still holding out for him, he may be moved moved to make an informed judgement. If, However, everybody turns against him while he’s inside and with no recourse to remonstrate, maybe then he’ll simply think, ‘F**k it. I may as well continue with Ezra’s team and their message; I have no other option’.

    Thanks again, Travis

  8. I Got Worked
    Posted August 10, 2019 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    As someone who is still in the “surely, there must be another way” camp, this is a particularly good article. There are many rabbit holes to come back to and investigate further. Thank you.

  9. Posted August 10, 2019 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Great article I learned quite a bit…I would add Laura Towler to the list of based UK women. A super-impressive young youtuber who makes clearly reasoned fantastically lucid videos all with a friendly charming demeanor–she is one to share widely with normie friends.

    Note on the Collet J-debate. The Indian wearing the ‘Rivers of Blood’ T-shirt LOL was BASED AF.

    Here’s a reupload of the affair.

  10. Posted August 10, 2019 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    The narrative is that shills like Tommy are suffering. But it is places like Chateau Heartiste and The Daily Stormer that have suffered any blowback.

    Name the Jew and you get de-platformed, especially if it done with some entertaining satire. If there is anything they hate more than honest labor, it is the merchant meme.

  11. Matt
    Posted August 11, 2019 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    We are currently still at the stage where we need to reach as many people as possible with our message. Women can be very effective at that, and might appeal especially to other women, drawing them to the movement. They are 50% of voters and we need them.

    Frankly, anyone who attacks the women of our movement should be viewed with suspicion and be shunned. They are doing the enemy’s work.

    This was a fantastic article, by the way.

  12. nineofclubs
    Posted August 11, 2019 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Great and timely article. You have to wonder what Nick Griffin makes of all this. I know he’s controversial too, but his ideological leadership shaped ITP thinking and remains entirely relevant today.

  13. Posted August 23, 2019 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the well researched article on Tommy Robinson. As a Creator, I have to deal with constant queries from the TR Fanboys on why we refuse to get on our knees and worship at the Altar of TR.

    Well, thanks to your article, all I need do now is send them a link.

    FYI: Your link (and a short summary of my own) has been placed at:,11546.0.html

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