Lauren Southern the Sex WorkerIrmin Vinson
It is possible that this will be the dumbest piece of writing in the history of Counter-Currents. That’s not my fault. The subject matter is dumb, and it will be hard to rise above it. I’ll do my best, and because the subject matter is dumb, I’ll be brief.
Among the recent charges against Lauren Southern is the claim that she is a sex worker who poses in revealing clothing in order to encourage men to masturbate to her pictures. She makes money thereby, so she is in essence a pornstar, even though she doesn’t perform sex acts on camera. Her pictures are so sexually powerful that many men are compelled to masturbate. These beta-orbiters just can’t help themselves, and Lauren acquires money from the cyber-fapping that she encourages.
I can’t peer into the private spaces of these supposed beta-orbiters, and I can’t access Lauren Southern’s mind, but all of the preceding strikes me as impossibly unlikely.
The normally admirable Weev, who has elaborated on the charge, focuses his own case for Greedy Lauren the Virtual Seductress on a passage in her book Barbarians, where she alludes to her brief cosplay career:
If there was a moment in the 2016 U.S. election that epitomized this newfound hate for the young on the right, it was Republican consultant Rick Wilson’s infamous, high school-level declaration that Trump supporters were “childless, single losers who masturbate to anime.”
Guilty as charged. Well, except I don’t masturbate to anime characters. I dress up like them and guys masturbate to me. Not sure if that puts me on the same plane in Wilson’s book.
Weev omits the first paragraph and interprets the second as Southern’s “honest admission that she is a sex-worker.” Her “entire existence is a manufactured attempt to sexually manipulate good-hearted and decent men into giving her money.” These strong-wristed, good-hearted men end up “digitally throwing dollar bills at a hooker that doesn’t even suck [them] off afterwards.”
Southern’s book was published in 2016, which isn’t that long ago. Everyone here likely remembers the context of her brief comment. The worthless Republican strategist Rick Wilson had claimed that the Trump-supporting Alt Right, whose creative center he plausibly located in /pol/, was populated by frustrated losers with odd sexual fixations. Wilson’s attack presented his targets with a choice: they could deny the charge that they masturbate to anime, or they could admit (accurately or not) that they do. Some of them chose the latter, on the assumption that conceding ridiculous and irrelevant charges is tactically better than denying them. One of my favorite Alt-Right jokes, based on a famous (and truthful) Goebbels quote, emerged as a result of this tactical decision:
The /pol/ is immunized against all dangers: one may call him an antisemite, racist, politically incorrect, Trump supporter, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him an anime masturbation fan and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: I’ve been found out.
Lauren Southern was writing from within this strategy of response. If an enemy says that you are a twisted white supremacist with genocidal ambitions, you reply “guilty as charged.” If an enemy calls you “deplorable,” you accept the label. If an enemy accuses you of masturbating to anime girls, you acknowledge that you do and make a joke about your alleged sexual tastes. Whether this is a wise strategy or not may be debatable, but it has been a common feature of Alt-Right memes and online activism, so successful that Donald Trump Jr. learned about the game and was willing to play it.
How does a right-wing woman respond to the allegation that alt-right men masturbate to anime? She could quote studies, if any such studies exist, that they don’t; or she could claim that masturbating to anime is a well-known sign of emotional maturity; or she could follow the strategy that others had already arrived at. She chose the latter course: “Guilty as charged. Well, except I don’t masturbate to anime characters. I dress up like them and guys masturbate to me.”
She was joining a verbal game about anime and masturbation that others had started. She was also clearly signaling her political alignment with the rightist men that Rick Wilson was attempting to mock. It was a small political joke and nothing else, a joke that indicates that she sympathized with Alt-Right racialists and felt inclined to include herself among them. In any case, no one can rationally claim that the two paragraphs quoted above constitute “an honest admission that she is a sex-worker.”
Wikipedia calls Lauren Southern a “far-right political activist,” which from our perspective means only that she is sane. I haven’t watched any of her videos, but I have read her book. I know from her book that she is a thoughtful and articulate young woman. A decade ago Barbarians would have been widely admired by racialists; two decades ago the National Alliance bookstore might have stocked it.
Times have changed, and because we have become more confident, merely being sane is often not enough. We hope for stronger positions from the alt-lite. Most of them, at present, are unwilling to deliver them. The fact remains, however, that Lauren Southern is closer to the mainstream than any of us are, and a good case could be made that as such she is just as valuable as any creator of explicitly racialist content, especially since she is not far from genuinely enlightened views on race and culture. For example:
[D]iversity is not a strength; it’s a weakness. Its legacy is not peace and love, but division and hate. It is to civilizations what auto-immune diseases are to the human body. It must be razed, salted, and burned, as the Romans did to the Carthaginians.
Although Marxism is a wicked ideology, traditional Marxist historiography had an attractive vision of historical progress that we can learn from. Historical actors were judged not by their support for, or opposition to, specifically Marxist beliefs, but by how, positioned in their particular moment in time, they furthered or impeded the inevitable direction of history. A bourgeois liberal could be good and progressive in 1780, and thus a hero in Marxist history, while the political beliefs that made him good and heroic in 1780 could make another political actor holding the same beliefs bad and retrograde fifty years later. A political actor did not need to share Marxist beliefs to help achieve Marxist objectives and win Marxist praise. A Marxist historian could therefore ignore a political actor’s intentions and look only at his place in the sequence of causes driving history toward its destined future, as Karl Marx saw it.
At this historical moment, any popular figure who, like Lauren Southern, publicly criticizes “diversity” and opposes race-replacing immigration is our ally, regardless of his or her own opinion of the matter. I would argue further, based on her book, that Southern is exactly what most of us hoped the alt-lite would become: a conduit to White Nationalism. Whether she intentionally set out to serve that function or not is irrelevant, though my guess is that being a conduit leading to us wouldn’t trouble her.
My Chinese father once made a comment about Lauren Southern when I showed her videos to him: “She is a bit scantily clad. I find it difficult to pay attention to what she is saying.” My father was not dismissive of what Lauren Southern was saying and he merely remarked something he noticed as he tried to concentrate.
I can at least to some extent empathise with the people who object to Southern’s choice of clothes, because even neutral people, such as my father, do notice what she wears and they get some “sexual cues” from that. Of course, one can easily go overboard with accusations. A simple empathic remark to point this out to her would be enough. She would like say “this is my choice” and that would be the end of it.
I have read rightist women’s comments online pointing out they feel disagreement with Lauren Southern and thinks she misrepresents them. I have also tried to absorb their perspectives in my mind and I have tried to reflect upon it as much as I can. I can see that these women are far more to the right than Lauren Southern and so they feel dissatisfied with her.
Nevertheless, it makes perfect sense to see Lauren Southern as friendly to the goals of the survival of the White race. Perhaps she could be friendlier, but there you have it: she is already friendly, and it might not be a good idea to make her unfriendly to the movement. Strategically, it is wise not to alienate people but to welcome them and to include them on your team.
People who feel alienated by society need to feel welcomed and included in the movement. Alienating them is what drives them back to the mainstream, but welcoming and including them pulls them away from the mainstream. Charming and engaging individuals who have potential for the movement is the best way. You should not criticise them too harshly, but neither should you exempt them from self-correction (self-criticism) and movement discipline.
Antagonising friends isn’t good for your social network. The charisma of the movement ought to be defended. Badly coordinated attacks on people who deserve a different approach (charming and engaging) is not good. These individuals need to be socialised into the movement rather than be alienated.
Of course, I know that I have to be immune to criticism myself since people will try to alienate me from the White survival movement merely because I am (a) an Asian and (b) a woman. These accusations sound nonsensical to me. Being an Asian woman is irrelevant to me for believing that White survival is right. I support Whites on principle and I am disgusted with the tasteless liberal-democratic leftist and Marxist-Leninist hatred of White people. Denying Whites the right to live is just beyond disgusting and I cannot live in good conscience with myself if I did not support White survival.
One more remark: People’s alienation from society is the growth of this movement. Liberal and Marxist atomisation is good. The leftists seek to rule over individuals by “divide and conquer,” but this inevitably leads to their alienation and this makes them receptive to White nationalism and White survival. However, if these people are not properly socialised but rather alienated, growth will be hard. A charm offensive is needed to reign in all alienated people and socialise them properly into the ranks of the White survival movement.
I have always seen many Asian groups as our natural allies, as the racial differences in behavior between us are the least of any two races. We all have the ability to create similar levels of civilization. Personally, I feel as comfortable around many Asian groups (Chinese, Japanese, and Korean) as I do some Whites (Northwest Europeans as well as select others). Put us in a room, and the social atmosphere does not change much. We are often functional intellectual and behavioral matches, in general. Though, both groups have their lower individual performers.
It is inevitable that there will be Asians who think as you do, because eradicating us makes no sense for the world’s benefit. Thus, I am unsurprised at your support but also I am thankful to read of it. I feel similarly about Asian tribes. To be honest, from what I know, the Han Chinese are under no present threat of genetic dilution. However (and acknowledging Chinese animosity) I am rooting for the vulnerable Japanese to resist the politics of dilution.
The primary challenge of the new right, and one that I’m unsure if they can overcome, is that there is ideological chaos within its generally agreed upon boundaries. Moreover, there is communication channel chaos in that anyone can say anything and have a chance of being heard to a degree that damages progress. Without a means to overcome these challenges, there will be no further progress and the Left will continue to dominate our PR through its media that will amplify every misstep. What it also means is that the New Right will have difficulty controlling its worst elements, and mitigating the internal chaos, well enough to create a controlled internal environment that would assure welcome for outcasts. Instead, we’ll continue to have every 100 IQ 11th high school junior with a keyboard, who is pissed at blacks, create unsophisticated political turbulence to the tune of “No nerds (nor cam models as the case may be), time to fight in the streets for whites”.
It’s a major problem.
A very lucid, coherent, and balanced viewpoint adeptly articulated by Chinese Maiden. Highly agreed. Although I have used to be a regular reader and fan of Dailystormer with its unapologetic, unvarnished, hardcore and hard-hitting messages, the puritanically hairsplitting and ally-alienating attitude and views of those in their camp, including the otherwise admirable Weev have really gone too far this time and misfired, begetting unnecessarily divisive and deplorable results.
Chinese Maiden surely has a clear logical mind, a sound and refreshing message, and admirable writing skill to deliver, as have been shown time and again in many of your past comments and all the more in this latest one. I sincerely and warmly encourage you to write more on this site and perhaps consider contributing your own articles instead of merely comments to CC, and I am sure your commendable talent and knowledge will be appreciated by Greg and his team and most of the readers. Cheers!
By the way, with no offense to those Lauren fans, though from a personal taste, I honestly do not find Lauren Southern particularly attractive facially. Her (somehow fleshy) face is a bit too big and broad for me. A slightly elongated and narrower face might be indicative of a more preferable and typically beautiful Aryan-looking woman.
I honestly do not find Lauren Southern particularly attractive facially. Her (somehow fleshy) face is a bit too big and broad for me. A slightly elongated and narrower face might be indicative of a more preferable and typically beautiful Aryan-looking woman.
Her face is a “bit too big and broad”, is it. Too big and broad for what, I’d like to know.
We as a race are spiralling downwards in every sense and a woman’s face not being “typically beautiful” is your concern.
Jesus take me now, I’ve nothing to look forward to.
a bit too big and broad for my personal taste, to be sure, albeit being merely a matter of different standards of judgment on beauties from different people.
But I never said this was a real big concern for me. It’s just a side note from me. I admire and salute her for her remarkable talents and contribution to our cause all the same.
It seemed you misconstrued or misinterpreted my remarks and unnecessarily played up this minor side point of mine, which had never been intended to be my focus in the first place.
I would be interested in…..if both you and he might allow….. the continuation of your Chinese dad’s sense of distraction while watching and listening to Lauren Southern. As I understood his observation……he might find analyzing Lauren’s commentary easier if she dressed differently….perhaps with “more” cloth covering “more” skin. I’m pretty sure I agree with your Chinese dad in that regard….and so I generally watch her video twice and listen hard once.
….but I’m thinking this “distraction” effect does not hold true in all cases…e.g. Amy Schumer. Schumer’s comedic conversations would not be funnier if she….Schumer….. was rocking the concert stage in that paddle board bikini of hers. She is even LESS humorous when stuffed into otherwise tasteful attire. .
Which brings me back to your Chinese dad….and my complete concurrence with his legitimate Lauren Southern “attire distraction” effect.
Slobby overweight non-funny people are not distracting at all…..they’re just annoying like Amy Schumer….and not worthy of the genuine work & exhaustive focal effort that maintaining the Lauren Southern fashion distraction so richly deserves.
Two black men watching \ listening to Lauren Southern.
One man says to the other…”What’s she doing?”
The other replies…………. “She’s trying to focus.”
Lauren Southern is super-hot!
I think it would behoove her to dress more modestly.
Showing cleavage does not seem like good faith nor earnestness.
All that emotional drama tells us more about those making the accusations than Lauren Southern herself.
Attractive women have been used to sell product since the birth of advertising. Which is more distressing…that men fall for it? or that the product is lacking?
Weev is a talented prankster, but also obviously a least slightly canted in a nonproductive or even dangerous way in terms of personality. He’s impulsive and reckless. That’s unquestionable.
So, now, we have him being a puritan police for sex. Who put him in charge? Nat Soc Germany had no such sexual limitations on its populace. In fact, procreation via any social method, to include sleeping around, was encouraged to raise the population numbers.
If guys are jacking it to Lauren Southern, that means that they aren’t jacking it to the latest mulatto porn star or other poor sexual anchor. Weev’s standard for jacking material is a hooker who will suck you off? Is he serious? What’s wrong with masturbating to a natural blonde who has the right politics?
The only danger here is super spergs (and that’s coming from a guy who is very hesitant to use the term sperg) start imploding the movement via completely senseless internal strife. Put a functional muzzle on Weev and his ilk before they do more damage.
Last, Weev is smart and so his priorities are highly suspicious. I’d be careful of him and anyone who uses thinks that these type of internal landmines are important to actualize.
Great analysis, thank you.
As a Canadian I am extremely suspicious of anyone who ever worked for Ezra Levant. He appears to be a baffoon, but he is a very clever member of the tribe and Southern it seems to me is his protegee.
She has no difficulty with the talking points and gained celebrity quite quickly while the usual thing in Canada is to avoid that kind of celebrity. Not that I have done much research on her, but I have found enough to not bother listening to her whereas Lana and others do not have that ‘glibness’ about them. They really want WN states.
Of course. That is exactly his role in the tribe. He draws attention away from our real issues with the tribe and then people sympathize with the leftists. Classic bait and switch, or divide and conquer. Now that Southern is placed right of him, he can appear more reasonable and the victim.
We only see what is done in public. I do not believe for one minute, he is acting alone or is without support.
What makes you say that he’s a Bafoon? If you want to see a Bafoon look at what Sascha Baron Cohen recently said at a meeting with the ADL.
I can’t believe this is a thing!!
Because its not. Anyone with basic internet knowledge is not looking for sexual gratification from Southern pics. Its beyond absurd.
So. What is this REALLY about???
White people, like all peoples, are composed of 50% male/female. Therefore, we need voices from both if we are to get anywhere. Ain’t hard, and the scummy weirdos making claims such as you described ain’t helping.
Just because feminists are so consistently wrong about what misogyny is, doesn’t mean the phenomenon isn’t a serious problem. The Right needs a purge of misogynists.
Miss Southern is still very young (or I am too old). She currently is in South Africa, investigating the situation of the white farmers. One can follow her on her twitter account. Lots of things are claimed about her of which I am not in a position to verify.
I only see this – an interview with a lady who was involved in a farm attack:
I take my hat off to Miss Southern. Respect from an old Bush War veteran.
The British television personality Katie Hopkins will be visiting South Africa in the next few weeks for a fact finding mission on the farm attacks. Respect to her too.
I see them as leadership personalities with these actions. They are walking the walk, not just talking the talk.
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