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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 196
The 2017 German Federal Election & the Catalan and Kurdish Independence Referendums
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Greg Johnson, John Morgan, and Michael Polignano reconvene for a new weekly Counter-Currents Radio podcast. This week, we discuss the results of the German federal election as well as the independence referendums in Catalonia and Iraqi Kurdistan.
- German federal election: 0:00
- Catalan independence referendum: 21:45
- Kurdish independence referendum: 43:15
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6 comments
In my opinion, the success of the AfD is empirical evidence that metapolitics can be successfully pursued through the electoral system. The question of how to pursue that method successfully needs to be re-visited in Anglophone countries, and Nationalists should move away decisively from the “anti-political” strain of thought that has infected the Movement in recent years in which it is assumed that we should withdraw from electoral activity altogether.
We can win elections, if we can construct a narrative and a credo that is acceptable to the public, and if we can go about things professionally. That is not to suggest that electoral politics can or will lead to a white ethno-state (a different question that can be more adequately discussed on sites like this and others), but a subtle and charismatic Popular Nationalist party could make considerable tactical in-roads under the existing system – in Britain at the local level especially.
I have a request. I would like to see an exhaustive essay on the political thought of Celine. The various snippets I have picked up on this website have raised a curiosity in my mind. He was so red pilled in a relative vacuum.
I am perplexed by Greg’s regard for Frauke Petry. Admittedly she has had 5 handsome white babies, but there are certain other things a nationalist needs. She has made it abundantly clear that she will form a new party and will destroy the AfD if she can. She is nothing but a free market hack and obviously has no interest in what might be called racial social justice as against the dessicated capitalist formulae that put “market mechanisms” (ie. chaos) on a pedestal. Reported here –
https://www.rt.com/newsline/405432-petry-afd-germany-party/
Agree. AfD has enjoyed some success this time around, but it’s worth considering whether they offer any real alternative to the German liberal establishment, or just a more market-friendly version of it. Ms Petry seems to epitomise the most worrying tendencies inherent in AfD. A reasonable discussion of the AfD phenomenon here:
https://apfeurope.com/2017/09/afd-and-national-action-lessons-for-real-nationalists-as-the-fakes-hit-the-headlines
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According to Germany’s public broadcaster ARD, when compared to the 2013 elections, AfD saw their greatest gains among those who had not voted at all in the previous election.
And while Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (as well as the Social Democrats and The Left Party) did lose a significant amount of voters to the AfD, even more significant is the number of CDU voters who have simply died since the last election.
While AfD did best among blue-collar workers and the unemployed, Merkel’s party and the SPD did best among pensioners. Both SPD and CDU are largely running on fumes at this point, since their most reliable supporters are old people who vote for them simply out of habit, or because the staff of the numerous retirement homes run by organizations associated with the CDU and SPD tell them what to vote, and in many cases even directly fill out their absentee ballots for them.
As for the highly accomplished and charismatic Frauke Petry, I’m sure the AfD wouldn’t have done nearly as well in the election if not for her. But given some of the statements she has made after the elections, I’m also glad that she is leaving the party and won’t have a say in AfD’s official positions. For example, when Gauland criticized Merkel’s assertion that “securing the existence of the State of Israel is raison d’etre of the German state” and warned that this ultimately implies a readiness to send German soldiers to defend Israel, Petry made clear that she actually supports this notion. In fact, she even criticizes Merkel for not being consistent enough in her commitment to “Germany’s highly important partnership with Israel,” demanding an end to CDU-supported sanctions relating to Israel’s settlement policy.
Some commentators have warned that the establishment will attempt to destroy the AfD by trying to get more moderate members to opportunistically disavow and leave the party, while ruthlessly harassing the rightists and true believers. My worry is that Petry may offer herself as a pliable tool for bringing about such a split into one camp of cuckservatives and another of increasingly marginalized radicals.
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