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Print August 15, 2017 31 comments

Why White Nationalists Shouldn’t be Discouraged by the Charlottesville Attack

James Dunphy

866 words

James Alex Fields, Jr.

A 20 year old named James Alex Fields, Jr. rammed his Dodge Challenger into a group of people during the Charlottesville March this past Saturday, August 12, 2017, killing one. The interesting thing is that if he had been a Muslim doing it for the sake of jihad, the media and academia would in response be promoting a narrative that we should not allow this attack to be used to malign Muslims across the nation because most Muslims, according to them, are law-abiding people of good will. But the mainstream media does not afford white nationalists the same treatment as it does Muslims. Politics in America are moving increasingly to a tribal level, and the leftist media have sided with Muslims and against white nationalists.

Another event similar to this one occurred when Micah Xavier shot and killed five police officers at a Dallas Black Lives Matter rally. Xavier sympathized with BLM’s stance that police across America were unfairly targeting blacks, perhaps in the same way Fields may have sympathized with the Alt Right’s beliefs to an extent which we still have to discover.

Following the Dallas shooting, the Huffington Post’s Lilly Workneh wrote an article imploring readers not to blame Black Lives Matter for the murder. She rested her case partly on the assertion that BLM was officially pro peace.[1]

The leaders of the Alt Right, including Mike Enoch of the satirically named Daily Shoah podcast, explicitly called for the march to be peaceful prior to Saturday.

Would we expect a Huffington Post writer to defend the Alt Right on the basis that Fields’ belief in murdering opposition was not reflective of that of the Alt Right leadership?

Fat chance.

On the contrary, we can expect the left to try not to let this crisis go to waste. Their efforts to capitalize on it in the court of public opinion, of course, need to be met with effective counter arguments, but it is also important for white nationalists not to become discouraged by this event.

To understand why this might happen, we first must understand some common psychological traits among them.

In a previous article, James Dunphy identified many white nationalists as INTJs on the Myers-Briggs scale. Rather than go into detail about what that means here, I will simply state that it is the most likely to be male of all the types, and in one study it was one of the most likely to identify with the Republican party and one of the least likely to identify as Democrat, and from this we can conclude that it is probably one of the types most prone to right-wing beliefs. It is also, according to some sources, the second most intelligent on average of all the types and frequently found among geniuses like Bill Gates and Elon Musk. I also stated that many in this type are likely to be Enneagram Fives. To put it succinctly, Fives are an “intense, cerebral​ type” but also prone to caring a lot about their reputation. Because of this, Fives can sometimes feel very uncomfortable when others attempt tarnish their reputation. It is important for such individuals on the Alt-Right to realize they have this tendency and that the left, seemingly instinctively, seeks to exploit it. Such white nationalist need to recognize this tendency and not give in to the Left’s attempts to not let this crisis go to waste.

In all fairness, the right has sought to not let crises go to waste either, most famously with the case of Trump seeking to enact the Muslim ban several days after a Muslim terrorist attack. I have commented before on the kind of game of tag the left and the right play between terrorist attacks. It is rather nauseating, especially when the left does it because they do it with a little less truth.

BLM leader Shaun King, whose white appearance would seem to qualify him as a potential white nationalist, seeks to brand white nationalists as the new face of terrorism with a recent tweet. His assertion is as accurate as his skin is black. Muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks than right-wing white males. The New York Times has posted at least one article that is misleading when describing the true comparison of attacks by each group, but in order to understand that one needs to be able to understand math, a subject with which most BLM supporters probably struggle.

What really matters in all these conflicts is that white nationalists are correct that an all-white nation would be more harmonious for whites. They have quite natural desires to live in a nation that would provide an optimal quality of life for them and other members of their race. Playing defense against attempts to undermine white history as the demonstrators in Charlottesville sought to do is a symbolic step toward this goal.

The best thing we can do moving forward is to continue to listen to the advice of the Alt Right’s leaders and march peacefully. The Alt Right has shown itself to be resilient following Hailgate, and I think it will be resilient following this incident as well.

Notes

1. Don’t Blame Black Lives Matter For The Deaths Of Dallas Cops http://huffpost.com/us/entry/us_577f9409e4b01edea78d6514/amp

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  1. James J. O'Meara says:
    August 15, 2017 at 9:49 am

    “The best thing we can do moving forward is to continue to listen to the advice of the Alt Right’s leaders and march peacefully. ”

    Can someone explain the rationale of “marching” at all? Unless the metapolitical work of changing the narrative is at least somewhat finished, the predominant narrative will always spin the alt-Right march as “march of hate” etc. Why give them the ammo? As the author notes, Leftist marches are always spun as “hope inspiring” etc. no matter what happens. No amount of “marching” will change that.

    1. Obergrupfr. J. Smith says:
      August 15, 2017 at 4:12 pm

      Exactly

      Politics follows culture and all of the success we have made thus far has been via our cultural efforts.

      All of it. Why abandon it?

      As far as I remember this event and mandatory attendance was just sprung on us without any discussion as to if it was a good idea or not. No advisement, no peer review, no plan B etc. Many people told me in private that this was a bad idea, that until we can field 10K people on the street then we should wait.

      Thank God Trump is fighting back at least, directly blaming the leftists of violence for the first time in American history but I dont know,weve lost a great deal (websites of DS, Infostormer, Vanguard etc silenced with more coming) and the potential gain eludes me.

      I must have made 100 pieces of art for the event. Of course none of us could have foreseen this but the people who made these decisions should accept the responsibility and stopping trying to blame antifa or the jews or the Martian military. Or else it will happen again and again.

      1. Kubizek says:
        August 15, 2017 at 10:24 pm

        I think it is too early to say whether or not what has happened is bad or good. What has recently happened with the shutdown of DS and others was inevitably going to happen anyway and that it is probably good that it happened as a result of such a high profile event with so much news coverage rather than the dark of the night.
        Andrew Anglin is reporting that, “This is the greatest thing that’s ever happened to us. We are worldwide now. All over the map. No one said this was going to be easy.”

        Greg can we post a link to the Dark Web address of DS? There are quite a number of sites like yours that can assist with getting the message out that DS and others still live. They shouldn’t be dependent on domain names and commercial enterprises to be able to get the message out there.

        1. Obergrupfr. J. Smith says:
          August 16, 2017 at 3:50 am

          Just to be clear.

          We did not get shut down because of because of our persuasive arguments or truth.
          The worlds opprobrium came down up us because some people on our side were ghoulishly celebrating the death of a woman. Even our allies recoiled.

          Lets just be clear.

          1. Frank says:
            August 16, 2017 at 10:49 am

            The worlds opprobrium came down up us because some people on our side were ghoulishly celebrating the death of a woman. Even our allies recoiled.

            This THIS THIS. I was completely appalled at that DS article. There’s no way to describe it as anything other than evil-hearted. It seems to me as if AA was drunk on his own perception of having scored some great victory; I see no other reasonable explanation for publishing something like that. A young woman, brainwashed by a leftist educational structure, got killed as a result of being in the middle of a violent leftist mob. A mother lost her child. What in the world is there, in that death, to celebrate?!

            For someone who isn’t a sociopath – nothing.

          2. Captain John Charity Spring MA says:
            August 16, 2017 at 3:15 pm

            What would the means of the ethnostate be?

      2. Miha M says:
        August 15, 2017 at 11:21 pm

        You make some correct assertions (shutting us down has only just begun) but ultimately the wrong conclusion; that this is bad for us. This event would have been very nice if it went as planned. But being shut down plays into our hands thousand times better. Before shutdown, DS had same traffic as Breitbart and they simply couldnt allow this to stand. Extrajudicial shutdown of opinions they dont like is funny as hell. In particular when you consider James Damore firing happened just week ago.

        One of the best ways to win hearts of normies and “cuckservatives” is to make system overtly tyrannical. This isnt over. Its going to escalate much further. I expect that Alt-right will be destroyed (forced to dark web, financially strangled even more) in the process. They will celebrate their victory at first, but soon they will start going after regular cuckservatives and normies. Nothing will ever satisfy them. And this is how we win.

    2. John Bruce Leonard says:
      August 15, 2017 at 11:53 pm

      Agreed entirely, Mr. O’Meara. Our battle for the present is best waged on the plane of ideas and local organization—in forums like this, in arguments, discussions, and networking both on the internet, and more especially off the internet. There is plenty of room there for action of a concentrated and useful kind. These kinds of highly publicized events do nothing but establish all the necessary conditions for bloodshed, thus permitting the powers-that-be to sharpen their image of us as violent radicals. For it does not matter who throws the first blow, nor who ultimately suffers from it; we will always be guilty so far as the public discourse goes.

      I hope I err, but I will wager this much-hyped rally has won us no new supporters; may be it has lost us a few.

      1. Captain John Charity Spring MA says:
        August 16, 2017 at 3:16 pm

        Revealing the anarchy-tyranny is job one.

    3. Jaego says:
      August 17, 2017 at 10:50 am

      Sure. As Bin Ladin said, If you see a strong horse and a weak horse, you will like the strong one better. Marching is a show of strength that attracts young men – the kind we need. Remember, in Old Germany the Nazis were denied access to radio and print, so they took their message to the streets. Over the course of 13 years, they suffered 25,000 casualties, and more than 300 deaths. But they triumphed in the end thru this Path of Iron. Men bond thru blood after all.

      They can completely cut us off at any time. Do we accept their authority and “behave” ourselves? Or do we do what must needs be done?

  2. Wayne Ashbee says:
    August 15, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Your Huffington Post footnote has been taken down, or at least I can’t link to it.

    1. James Dunphy says:
      August 15, 2017 at 12:52 pm

      Try googling “Lilly Workneh, Don’t Blame Black Lives Matter For The Deaths Of Dallas Cops”

  3. Bjørn Thorsønn says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    Some very good points here, and i wholeheartedly agree on the typical WN vs muslim scapegoating.
    But your first sentence may be wrong. He actually rammed his car into the car in front of him after having had his car ‘beaten’ by a baseball bat. When a group of very coordinated antifa immediately attacked his car with same type of bats after this initial crash, he seemed to have backed up in an act of panic.
    Guilty as sin, yes, but not to the media accusations.
    Maybe I’m just a bit paranoid avoiding the MSM narrative….

  4. Captain John Charity Spring MA says:
    August 15, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    I think some of the Antifa really do think the right is homicidal inclined. A silver lining to Fields is that he puts a little fear in them. Not much for the most cynical Antifa but some.

  5. Dov says:
    August 15, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    “The best thing we can do moving forward is to continue to listen to the advice of the Alt Right’s leaders and march peacefully.”

    Sorry, but the last thing the Alt-Right should be doing is listening to the advice of whoever led it into this unwinnable battle. Now that the geniuses who arranged Charlottesville have dealt their own brand a crippling blow and instigated a whole new round of countersignaling, the best way forward would probably be to scrap “Alt-Right” and adopt a relatively neutral term like “White Advocacy.”

    1. Afterthought says:
      August 15, 2017 at 8:25 pm

      Concur.

      The goal shouldn’t be to Unite the Right, but

      Unite the Whites.

      Right, center, and as many of the left you can sway. I’d wager that as many as 80% of whites could be persuaded to support a well argued, well thought out road map to Whitopia, but not as long as it has ANY right wing, fascist, or Nazi baggage.

      The Alt Right strictly speaking – those who adhere to the “Trimuverate” – is a poison and a danger to white survival.

      The fears of normal white people must be addressed head on and assuaged, not ignored or explained away. Fears like international conflict, economic turmoil, loss of liberty, and the return of the bad ol’ days of the good ol’ boys network if said white nation were ever to become a reality.

      The guiding principles should be righteousness, respect for nations, ordered liberty, man above machine, and reciprocity; contra the Evil Be My Good of the Alt Right.

      The Alt Right hijacked the movement built by Infowars, Ron Paul, the Mantra, and even Donald Trump and drove it into the swamp where it could be annihilated by the Enemy. Let’s get back to the winning formula: ordered liberty + the Mantra against white genocide. Purge and Quarantine the bomb throwers as should have been done after NPI 2016.

      The fights for 2018 AND 2020 are paramount, not fist-fighting with Antifa. If the Enemy gets a mulligan, we are doomed.

      1. Captain John Charity Spring MA says:
        August 16, 2017 at 9:04 am

        When Anglin is in a cell and BLM are burning down another city…the Annarcho-Tyranny will be impossible for Cucks to ignore.

      2. Maribel Tipton says:
        August 16, 2017 at 4:35 pm

        Why are you guys so obsessed about race vs culture and values? I understand there’s a correlation obviously but they aren’t one and the same. You should focus on values.

        1. Greg Johnson says:
          August 16, 2017 at 4:39 pm

          In other words, we should imitate the conservative cowards who have not even managed to conserve their values and culture. We are under attack as whites. We have to go to where the battle is. Not pretend that they are attacking us for our culture and values.

          1. Maribel Tipton says:
            August 17, 2017 at 10:32 am

            If you are white and a Communist will they attack you? No. So they are attacking you for your values. If you’re black and Conservative will they attack you? Yes. Because at the bottom of their attack is Marxist Political Ideology. That’s what we should be fighting, the evil ideology. Whether one buys into this ideology is not driven by race. A lot of Whites are Marxists.

      3. Jaego says:
        August 17, 2017 at 11:10 am

        I thought we weren’t going to punch right anymore. Guess that resolution is out the window. The Enemy has tied up in knots as usual. When will we ever learn to be loyal and stop taking the Enemy’s pov?

      4. Jaego says:
        August 17, 2017 at 11:18 am

        No, the normies are sheep and listen to the loudest voice. That will never be ours until we rule. So your argument is that we try to win hearts and minds of the common man who thinks we are wicked and will always think that under the current system. So to win we already have to have won. It’s a contradiction.

        We go after the vanguard like all other successful groups have done. Once we win, we tell the normies what to think. In six months women will pretend they never believed anything other than our message. That’s human nature. Having a grandiose idea of the ordinary man is a recipe for defeat.

    2. McGillicuddy says:
      August 16, 2017 at 5:39 am

      “Now that the geniuses who arranged Charlottesville have dealt their own brand a crippling blow”

      This was the same weak drivel I heard after the Norway massacre and the Dillon Roof situation. This is not a “brand” that is easily tarnished like Nike. The Muslim brand is going stronger than ever, and there has been plenty of Muslim violence. The Chinese brand is doing very well also, and they have been crushing minorities, violating human rights and so forth as well. The “brand” suffers when people run and hide when there is violence or problems, showing that they are weak, lacking strong loyalty and principles. The “brand” gains strength when its proponents stand strong, and forge ahead. If one violent person can ruin the “brand”, it is a weak and worthless brand. There are always going to be violent individuals, that is human nature, and there will always be fanatics and mentally ill people as well, doing all kinds of unpredictable things. There are going to be plenty more Dillon Roofs and violent acts, that is the nature of a certain percentage of human beings, and when there are enough human beings in a movement, you will get a lot of them doing their thing.

      ” and instigated a whole new round of countersignaling, the best way forward would probably be to scrap “Alt-Right” and adopt a relatively neutral term like “White Advocacy.”

      And when something happens that you don’t like, we can abandon that little phrase too? Totally weak, and a recipe for failure. Every successful movement has had violence, and this never deterred successful movements. It certainly didn’t deter the Civil Rights movement with all their riots, or the Jewish counterculture movements with their assassinations and other mayhem.

      The take away for this author is: grab a pair and stop wanting to hide, if you really believe in a cause you never back down and run from it.

      1. Dov says:
        August 16, 2017 at 11:47 am

        “This is not a ‘brand’ that is easily tarnished like Nike. The Muslim brand is going stronger than ever, and there has been plenty of Muslim violence. The Chinese brand is doing very well also, and they have been crushing minorities, violating human rights and so forth as well. The ‘brand’ suffers when people run and hide when there is violence or problems, showing that they are weak, lacking strong loyalty and principles.”

        Uh, it really is that sort of brand. “Alt-Right” was created a few years ago, unlike the institutions of China or Islam. Clownish and threatening behaviors do have the potential to destroy this kind of fly-by-night movement, and my prediction is that the “Alt-Right” has an expiration date no later than the early 2020s. Leaving a brand so stupid (I repeat the point I’ve made in other posts) as to engage in the behavior we saw in Charlottesville isn’t a character flaw; it’s the act of a rational man or woman who tired of defending the indefensible. Again, *I* don’t care about swastikas, but >99% of the country does, and the Alt-Right just lost thousands of allies.

        “The ‘brand’ gains strength when its proponents stand strong, and forge ahead. If one violent person can ruin the ‘brand’, it is a weak and worthless brand.””

        Well, I wouldn’t necessarily generalize like that – every brand starts with a couple of people, and has a delicate beginning – but yes, the Alt-Right is weak.

        “There are always going to be violent individuals, that is human nature, and there will always be fanatics and mentally ill people as well, doing all kinds of unpredictable things. There are going to be plenty more Dillon Roofs and violent acts, that is the nature of a certain percentage of human beings, and when there are enough human beings in a movement, you will get a lot of them doing their thing.”

        My main problem wasn’t with the unforeseeable act of Fields… although, the fact that the movement is geared toward alienated young men is troubling enough. No, my main issue with the event was the mindblowing stupidity of the demonstrators who LARPed as Nazis, and the abject failure of the organizers to exclude these losers.

        “And when something happens that you don’t like, we can abandon that little phrase too? Totally weak, and a recipe for failure. Every successful movement has had violence, and this never deterred successful movements. It certainly didn’t deter the Civil Rights movement with all their riots, or the Jewish counterculture movements with their assassinations and other mayhem.

        The take away for this author is: grab a pair and stop wanting to hide, if you really believe in a cause you never back down and run from it.”

        What cause? For what does the Alt-Right stand? I support ethnic nationalism. That’s a principle whose name says it all, and one I can defend on intellectual and moral grounds. But there’s no defending a brand name, like “the Alt-Right”, under which various acts of idiocy are committed. At that point, you’re defending words and idiots; not principles. Supporting the Alt-Right blindly in no intellectually different from defending the Republican or Democratic brands blindly.

        1. Jaego says:
          August 17, 2017 at 11:11 am

          What’s your ethnicity btw?

    3. KPD says:
      August 16, 2017 at 6:14 am

      If you’ve been listening to the news at all the last few days, you’d know that the word white + anything else will be equivocated with white supremacism. They would slip in the term white nationalist along with nazis and white supremacists all the time. It doesn’t really matter what we call ourselves, they’ll always link us to that.

  6. Captain John Charity Spring MA says:
    August 15, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    Just remember that the 60s died when a black pimp brought a gun to a Rolling Stones concert pulled it out and a Hell’s Angel Steward killed him with a pool cue.

    The 2010s died because a pack of blacks and howling cat ladies tried to smash up a Dodge Charger and kill the white driver.

    It makes sense bro.

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  8. IRONKRAFT says:
    August 16, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    This, with Dr. Tom Sunic’s help, is where we need to be:

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  9. Maribel A Tipton says:
    August 16, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    Why not focus on advancing the President’s Agenda, and electing Trump friendly Senators and Representatives 2018? Want to restrict immigration? The President is working on it. You need to focus on obtaining political power and working within the system. Go for gradualism not revolution. Be smart, the world is a theater and right now you’re being defined by the Democrat Media, the only way you can make their Nazi and Racist accusations blow up on their faces is if you start acting completely reasonable and articulating your policy preferences in the framework of Mainstream values. Then THEY’LL look crazy calling you Nazis. Example wanna restrict immigration? Appeal to their care foundations and talk about how low-skilled immigration is hurting working Americans, especially African Americans. You really need to drop any references to the Germans and “ethnostates” that’s horrible marketing and bad strategy.

  10. Jaego says:
    August 17, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Lenin said, Deny your opponents have any good qualities whatsoever. Put forward that they are utter vermin. Did it work? Of course it did. What do you think normal people are, Frank? Sugar and Spice and everything nice? Don’t blame the normies, look into yourself: Why are you falling for the Cult of Heather Heyer? Overnight she became the equal of Mandela and King and now our own side is falling for this bovine excreta.

    Love your people and hate the Enemy. Sir Arthur Keith’s Law of Enmity and Amity. This makes for strength and young men will be attracted. Women will follow them. That’s how you get the best of the normies. Some of the better normies will follow them. More when we begin to win. All when we DO win and tell them what to think. No? It worked for the Communists. And the Neo-Comminists who conquered America.

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