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I´m very pleased that the main strain of her argumentation is purely racially: we Whites aren´t racially that way ! And that is exactly it: psychology is racial ! And the behavior of White men and women is racially determinated, and it is therefore different (make that: way different, quite fundamentally different) from the behavior of colored people (and this is why White and colored people cannot and shall not live together in one society).
Now as to WHAT actually White women want and need… that´s probably a different question that many have failed to be able to answer. My main question would be: women desire male dominance. Ok: just how much male dominance do white women desire; and in which form exactly? Plus IMO there seems to be quite differences among Whites… and the germanic woman is really something else, e.g. compared to slavic, or latin, women. Enough stuff to ponder, but for sure no need for POC shit sharia.
I don’t think the traditional monogamous marriage model was an agreement between men and women. It was really an agreement among men that concerns women. It’s becoming clear why such an agreement would need to exist, considering that at root, our politics, culture, and even economic condition is really built on top of this more basic and fundamental sexual competition for reproductive resources.
Women want us to create that structure. That’s should be clear, even if it isn’t always clear to women themselves. They want us to lead and set limits. Build the foundation so they can come along after it, decorate it, and make it a home. The “shit test” is her way of testing limits, making sure we can create that structure. When we defer entirely to women’s moral judgment in these matters, we’re failing it. They basically want daddy. Feminism really is like the metapolitical version of a teenage girl acting out in an attempt to provoke her absentee father into proving he loves her by reprimanding her and creating limits for her.
It really is the behavior of children. I don’t say that to be insulting or dismissive of women, but it’s unmistakably a child’s psychology. I don’t know. Schopenhauer said women were somewhere between adults and children. I guess he was probably on to something. It’s as good a theory as any.
“Woman’s Emancipation” is a new, radical and unnatural social concept. Throughout all of human history, up until fairly recently, women have been slaves. They are psychologically submissive and enjoy domination and humiliation (50 Shades of Grey). They are even physically smaller and weaker so they are easier to enslave. A creature programmed to be a slave does not want “freedom,” it just wants a benevolent master.
I just watched part of this. Maybe I will watch the whole thing later. My opinion is that there is no point to counter signaling because they will just double down and get off on getting people angry, especially women. That’s the game. Once, a long time ago in a classics class, a friend of mind wrote an essay on the Medea option. I don’t think she really knew what she was saying. It was not an option I would contemplate. However, nowadays, there are many options. That’s why I like herbalism. I am considering joining the rod and gun club.
I’d just take the opportunity to have a serious discussion about how we intend to restore traditional monogamous marriage.
End the welfare state and affirmative action hiring. Women will once again need men to provide for them. It’s that simple.
Meh, I don’t even care much for the white sharia meme, but this PhilosophiCat woman takes it waaaay too literally. Made her seem a bit dim-witted, to be honest.
The pro-White-Sharia-meme guys, particularly the War Room, are just doing multiple things at once and all scrambled up. It’s not meant to be a scholarly argument. They’re arguing for patriarchy, trying to freak out normies and thots, having a laugh going waaay overboard on the rape, beatings, FGM stuff (note: this isn’t the only thing they do this with. They’ll joke about murdering people, etc), laughing at the few girls in the movement who get upset by it and the so-called “white knights” who defend them, etc. They also claim that the meme forces liberals to choose white sharia over Muslim sharia…. or something. Not sure how that works. I’ve heard a few people say “liberals are OK with Muslim sharia.” But, they’re not, so that argument is dumb.
The Whigger Sharia essay by Donald Thoresen was much better. I’m not a huge fan of the meme, but people are taking it too seriously on both sides of the matter. I might shoot myself if I listen to another person explain why White Sharia is the meme to end all memes that will save the White race or, alternatively, how people in the alt-right supposedly actually want to convert to Islam and introduce female genital mutilation.
I highly doubt the meme has any staying power, so I’d just as well forget the term “white sharia.”
this PhilosophiCat woman takes it waaaay too literally. Made her seem a bit dim-witted, to be honest.
This isn’t especially complicated. If men talk about raping and mutilating women, women are likely to get angry.
As PhilosophiCat points out, “they complain about how our enemies use women as weapons, but then they turn around and make it look like our enemies are more enticing to work for.”
No woman worth having is going to join or support a movement in which rape and mutilation are offered as the price of admission, whether the rape and mutilation are spoken of ironically or not.
These guys seem to assume that they will receive what they want merely by announcing an intention to get it. Say “white sharia” one hundred times and white sharia will magically arrive. Women will then either cower in fear or happily accept their new role and the beatings that come with it.
Apparently the inventors of this meme don’t grasp the fact that people need to want an objective before they will work to achieve it, which means that the objective should both be attractive and sound attractive.
Somewhere Greg Johnson has an essay on self-sabotaging idiocy.
I agree with her. I’ve had enough of this ridiculous meme. It’s not funny and they’re obviously serious about it otherwise it would’ve died out by now but they insist on continually pumping air into it. It’s pointlessly divisive and many potential recruits are going to be turned off by it. I for one don’t want to be associated with that sick barbaric desert religion even ironically. Christianity is bad enough but Islam is cancer. The War Room using Christianity, another desert religion, as moral cover for this naked misogyny just adds insult to injury. Time to get over it and find a new joke.
She believes that women can choose what they get aroused by, i.e. that women can give consent to sex. This is false and therefore all sex is rape. Evola recommended, and I agree, that men who can’t turn their passions (such as sexual passion) to their advantage or who are not worth the pursuit should abstain from indulgence. Therefore men should refrain from raping (=having sex) if they’re not worth the woman or if they can’t derive advantages from the act.
She is cute but obviously a woman like her can’t understand the harsh truths of life. I don’t think we should care too much about her opinion, just hope she gets a good husband who is righteous and calm and doesn’t care about her innate feminism.
Hoo boy
The movement is highly disliked and lacks credability among the public. Douchebags only make things worse.
I think the ones shocked or disgusted by the White Sharia phenomenon don’t understand how deep the rabbit hole goes and how big of a change is needed. The decline of the West is not a surface level phenomenon. Most Westerners can’t imagine their worlds without coffee and bananas so how could they even begin to understand let alone like the movement and the radical shift in social and sexual domains that are required?
Open your eyes and look at the public. Thank god we don’t attract them.
Id rather thank the douchebags within the movement for that.
I think everybody is missing something. These angry bitter men who have taken the “white sharia” meme seriously are the very ones who would probably end up as eunuchs should it ever be implemented. I mean if you’re a loser at love (or at least getting laid) in today’s permissive society what chance are you going to have under a strong patriarchy? A patriarchy is as much about controlling men as it is women as far as I can see.
Mr. Scott,
You make an interesting point about the nature of patriarchy. The makers of the White Sharia meme don’t take into account the fate of the “average” man under their particular brand of patriarchy.
My primary objection to the objections to White Sharia is that if you think your average white woman is going to submit to any kind of patriarchal social norms under ANY condition but brute force …
Then you don’t have experience with women. Or maybe you think too highly of them.
I agree with Carpenter’s comment above that many of the opponents of white sharia seem to take things way too literally. Obviously the whole idea of rape gangs and female genital mutilation is just trolling and should be recognized as such. That said I would have to agree that it is being pushed way beyond the point of it being useful anymore. Some of its proponents also seem far too serious about it. As a way of trolling liberals it was fun when it started but right now I wish it would just go away.
On a deeper note I agree with the idea promoted by the white sharia meme that there is a problem with white western women today that needs to be addressed, for example regarding slutty behavior, not having kids etc (there are problems with white western men too of course). I am all in favour of reconnecting with more traditional gender roles and values but I disagree with the idea promoted by the War Room and by Anglin that we should only look back a hundred or five hundred years for those values. In my opinion we should look back to our pagan roots, not to christianity, which is a repellent non-European desert religion just as much as Islam is. It should be obvious from reading Tacitus Germania that our women back then had far more freedom than the women of assorted mudpeople ever could aspire too. That is not saying that they didn’t have responsibilities, or limitations to that freedom, unknown to modern women.
NO.
You ALL misunderstand.
The point of White Sharia is to punish sluts, hoes, and other similarly promiscuous women for all of the family-wrecking and nation-wrecking they’ve gleefully committed.
Punishment will be commensurate, of course, to the nature and extent of crimes that these women have committed.
If you want to see political white nationalism grow tenfold in numbers and intensity overnight, then just offer divorced white dads a platform to enact justice on their ex-wives.
They’ll gladly agree to ANYTHING else on the party platform.
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