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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 178
Hunter Wallace on White Nationalist Media Coordination

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Greg Johnson interviews Hunter Wallace of Occidental Dissent on Alt-Right media coordination. Topics discussed include: 

  • Twitter
  • Malcolm Gladwell’s The Tipping Point
  • Twitter and Facebook censorship
  • Deplatforming
  • YouTube demonetization
  • Nationalizing social media
  • Regulating social media
  • Outlawing PC terms of service
  • Pewdiepie
  • The need for a new, censorship-free YouTube
  • The importance of wealthy donors with vision
  • The Alt Right after Trump
  • The antifa threat and Alt Right unification
  • The power of the Alt Light



  1. Daniel
    Posted May 8, 2017 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    The biggest threat to the online white identity movement is the end of net neutrality.

    Many people think the internet as we currently know it, where any internet user can connect to any other user, is an inherent feature of the internet itself and will always be with us, but this is not the case. This freedom of connection is due to net neutrality rules. Under current net neutrality rules ISPs must not discriminate against any IP address. They must allow their customers to connect to any IP address at the same cost and at the same speed. Once net neutrality rules are gone this requirement will no longer apply.

    Imagine turning on your browser and trying to connect to Counter Currents but being unable to. You then try to connect to The Right Stuff, Occidental Observer and VDARE with the same result. Your call your ISP and they tell you: “Since the end of net neutrality laws our company policy is to not facilitate connection to hate sites. You are free to use another ISP”. You call around and all the major affordable ISPs are now saying the same thing. Just like credit card companies refusing to offer services to ‘hate sites’ technically no one’s freedom of speech has been taken away but the effect is the same. This could easily happen once net neutrality is gone.

    The same people who are currently demanding urgent action be taken against ‘hate speech’, ‘fake news’ and ‘anti-Semitism’ are absolutely determined to shut down the era of internet freedom and this is one of the ways they will do it.

    The Republican Congress and President Trump will abolish net neutrality in the name of ‘advancing the free market’ and ‘opposing government regulation’ and mainstream conservatives of the Sean Hannity kind will support them. One of the few good things Obama did was preserve net neutrality. It will be a sick irony when Trump betrays the very people who supported him the most.

    Other then attempt to pressure Congress and Trump to save net neutrality the other thing that would save free speech would be to extend civil rights protections to political views. If we can’t have Freedom of Association then the next best thing would be for citizens to be protected against discrimination (by private companies) for their political views in the same way citizens (non-whites anyway) are currently protected against discrimination based on race.

    Ultimately the best solution would be for the internet to be made a public utility (like, for example, the highway system) with every internet user having the right to connect to any website they choose, and to connect to any other internet user without having to go through a gate keeper. And with all ISPs accessible at the same speed and at the same cost. But I suppose conservatives would call that ‘socialism’.

    • Tim
      Posted May 9, 2017 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

      I’m sure this would have happened already under Hillary. With Trump, hopefully, we are safe until 2020, maybe 2024 if we’re lucky. After that, all bets are off.

  2. R_Moreland
    Posted May 9, 2017 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    Some comments on the interview:

    Getting the memo: there have been several Alt Right/Lite actions recently at Berkeley, Auburn, Pikeville, in front of the White House, and now New Orleans. There should be sufficient advanced notice to bring in more people, and these notices should be on every nationalist, race realist, identitarian and neo-paleo-whatever website. Not only that, build up these events to make them the “in” place to be.

    Also need to get specific types of activists involved. Some examples:
    * Attorneys to handle the legal end.
    * Artists to do posters and pamphlets.
    * Media people to cover the event and post video online.
    * Media reps to talk to the press and hand out press releases.
    * Martial artists and veterans for security.
    * Emergency medics to patch up people after street fights.
    * People to provide safe houses and crash pads.
    * Organization cadres who can recruit people swept up in the event into the movement.

    After action: I’d like to see people who were at these events give reports on what happened, lessons learned, opposition methodology, law enforcement response, and etc. This way new tactics can be developed.

    Groupthink: The left does indeed have a groupthink thing going for it. The party line on any issue develops across the spectrum of the left just about simultaneously. Is this due to common ideology or some kind of neural wiring? Maybe that’s a difference between leftists and rightists. The left goes in for collectivism as the ultimate expression of egalitarianism. The right, being composed of traditional hierarchical personalities, is more individualistic. But it does point out the necessity for developing an Alt Right party line and maintaining concentration on specific targets.

    PewDiePie: good point about recruiting him for his audience. (And any monetary contribution he would make is also to be considered!) He’s already been consigned to the ranks of the “Nazis” by all left thinking folks so he might as well jump in whole hog.

    It’s in the manual: I am going to give my usual plug for Networks and Netwars: The Future of Terror, Crime, and Militancy published by RAND and available in fine online websites across the Internet. It’s a great starting point for exploiting the Internet and social media for political activism, and has been something of a handbook for organizers worldwide. There are some really good tactics in there, like swarm attacks. (And no, I am not collecting royalties from the RAND Corporation!)

    Net neutrality: ultimately, the Alt Right has got to develop its own global communications technologies. And not just to keep talking with each other and pushing information operations. If the Alt Right could gain control of a new and trendy technology, it would now have the high ground, making the rest of the world dependent upon it.

    Setting the Parameters: in the 19th century, radicals wanted to seize control of the means of production. Since the development of the Internet and other forms of social media in the 21st century, it’s seizing control of the means of information. If a meme become big enough, it is the news. Pepe is just the start. The Alt Right can create its own reality.

    • Proofreader
      Posted May 14, 2017 at 5:16 am | Permalink

      R. Moreland, have you read Luther P. Gerlach and Virginia H. Hine’s book, People, Power, Change: Movements of Social Transformation (Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1970)? Gerlach contributed an excellent chapter to Networks and Netwars, and you should find People, Power, Change well worth reading regarding social movements.

      I admittedly haven’t read Gerlach and Hine’s Lifeway Leap: The Dynamics of Change in America (Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 1973) and therefore can’t comment on it. I’ll have to get and read a copy of it.

  3. Robert o
    Posted May 9, 2017 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    There’s a big populist gap between Breitbart and the Daily Stormer waiting to be filled. A site which pulls the disparate talent together. Ricky Vaughn has the right approach imo. is Spencer’s thing. Spencer wants to be Milo but we really need an Andrew Breitbart/Steve Bannon – preferably with Mercer style backing.

    Re funding – could Chuck Johnson set up a WeContent using the WeSearch platform?

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