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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 128
Interview with Martin Webster, Part 2
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Martin Webster on the march in 1980
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On April 10, 2015, Greg Johnson interviewed veteran British nationalist activist Martin Webster in London. Topics discussed include:
- Factors contributing to the decline of the National Front after the 1979 General Elections
- John Tyndall’s departure from the National Front and the emergence of the British National Party
- Pink Floyd’s The Wall
- Rock Against Racism
- The British Race Relations Act
- The importance of taking a long view and managing expectations to sustain radical parties
- Webster’s life after the National Front
- John Tyndall’s loss of control of the BNP to Nick Griffin
- Nick Griffin and the decline of the BNP
- The importance of constitutions for political movements
- The importance of explicitly defining one’s political goals
- The non-negotiable status of repatriating non-whites
- The necessity of opposing international finance and globalization
- Sidney Lumet’s Network
- Why racialists are the true defenders of diversity, biological and cultural
- His reply to mainstreamers and moderators
3 comments
This was a good interview, not only for the content (Webster is a plain spoken man with good insights into British nationalism), but also the format – having these podcasts in addition to the written material is a good idea; using a variety of media to get the message out.
With respect to Webster, I particularly liked his answer to the mainstreamers and the moderates. I continue to hold to the opinion that mainstreaming will be a long term failure.
I hope we get to see the griffin asbestos video that martin talks about, please upload it to youtube martin!
Fantastic interview, the old NF & the early post-WWII UK nationalist scene is fascinating so it’s great hearing an insider’s perspective. Webster is clearly a deeply-committed nationalist; whatever his faults (and noone in the Movement is without them… or incapable of slinging them at each other, it seems) he’s done far more for nationalism in Britain than most of the people who denigrate him. What really struck me to heart in this interview was the spot near the end, where he talked about how the international finance system was such a huge con- all about breaking down borders, eroding national cultures (which inhibit trade), eroding peoples’ natural sense of nationalism & national identity (which hinder the free movement of cheap labour around the planet), and are all about pushing the whole world into this soulless, artificial, watered-down commercial ‘culture’ based on abhorrent materialistic and decadent values.
That hit home to me SO hard because many years ago I was a teenage Trot- and I’d perceived the same issues Webster articulated, which led me to Marxism, seeking solutions. But involvement in Marxist activism showed me that Marxism had NO solutions, that not only was its ideology shabby & unrealistic but that the vast majority of its activists were absolutely sub-par and ineffectual. All the Marxists I worked with thought ‘socialism’ meant ‘identity politics’ and so focused entirely on racism, LGBT rights, & other bullshit totally alienating to most citizens in my country. This made me so angry it had the effect of awakening my patriotism, the realisation I was a nationalist & that my concerns about the effects of the financial system were motivated by a love for my nation & its people.
The result still was disenchantment- and then I found Mosley. Nationalism (and fascism) addressed ALL the problems I’d been so concerned about, and which Marxism CLAIMED to have answers to (but didn’t), and provided realistic, workable solutions- a conservative, right-wing practical socialism which recognised the realities of race & the absolute necessity for all of that to be grounded on a nationalist footing. Nationalism provides the solution to the massive problems being caused by globalisation & neo-liberal economics- not Marxism, not fabian social-democracy, not libertaraniasm. It is still so frustrating people don’t see that. Sorry for the long rant (doubt anyone will read this) but Martin’s talk brought back a flood of memories of what brought me to this side of politics in the first place. I’m so glad I did, and I’m confident we’ll win. 14/88
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