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The Fighting Side of Me:
Paul Fromm Interviews Lady Michèle Renouf
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Lady Michèle Renouf is an Australian activist, documentary filmmaker, and former model focusing on free speech issues concerning the historical analysis of real and alleged casualties during World War II and their connection to the historiographical narrative developed in the post-war period. Her videos are available for purchase on DVD through her website.
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Well I have not heard of Birobidjan before this. Thanks. This is another clue to the historical puzzle. I did know about Dresden and other nefarious lies.
I did have this fleeting fantasy of making all the old farts at the Royal Canadian legion watch her video, but I am not that cruel. I do not think so anyway. They get so upset if you question anything about the war. I guess I should get it first. I do like ammunition.
The atrocity of Dresden is mentioned in many American and English WWII history books,although glossed over as a war tragedy.David Irving,the English historian has courage to describe it as a deliberate inferno inflicted on civilian population.
At least some Englishmen acknowledge that.I wonder whether has been any soul searching in Russia about their crimes commited against the civilian population of Germany ?
We know that it was strictly speaking the Red army not Russian.Did Dugin or any other right movement leader expressed sorrow and ask for forgiveness ?I know we will hear that it was reprisal for the German army brutality against the civilian population, but that brutality was targeted against the partisans and the villages that sheltered them.It is known that Stalin and the commissars issued order that absolved the Red army of any criminal act for 3 days after entering any German territory.
‘I wonder whether has been any soul searching in Russia about their crimes commited against the civilian population of Germany ?’
Given their apparent lack of remorse about the Katyn Forest Massacre, it remains very, very doubtful.
In fact these issues keep popping up even in contemporary times (like the airplane crash in Russia that killed the former Polish President in 2010:)
Conspiracy theories have spread in Poland about the cause of the disaster. Artur Górski, a Polish MP belonging to Kaczyński’s Law and Justice party, claimed that the Russians in the Smolensk North Airport’s control tower were ordered to keep the plane from landing so that the president could not attend the Katyń ceremony, resulting in the crash
Hopefully at some point thought this inter-ethnic snipping can be put behind us, but it appears there is still a long way to go.
“Given their apparent lack of remorse about the Katyn Forest Massacre, it remains very, very doubtful.”
What are you talking about?
The Duma under Medvedev passed a resolution condemning Katyn, released the alleged documents to Poland proving Soviet involvement, hold memorials and screened that Polish Katyn movie in the lead up to the anniversary.
What more do you want them to do?
Even the Smolensk crash was a result of a fairly solemn and low key ceremony between Polish and Russian officials and relatives of those killed and because the Polish president wanted to make it into a nationalist political spectacle by forcibly inviting himself and idiotically cramming the entire head government of Poland into one plane.
“I know we will hear that it was reprisal for the German army brutality against the civilian population, but that brutality was targeted against the partisans and the villages that sheltered them.”
No it wasn’t by that same regard you could claim victims of the Red Army were victims of anti-Soviet and pro-German nationalist forces from various countries anti-partisan campaign.
Hitler’s goal was to ethnically cleanse the Slavic Russian orientated populations of western Soviet Union to expand German territory and influence that aligned with Great Britain would be the predominant power in Europe as outlined in his secret foreign policy book.
If he did not subscribe to racial nonsense regarding Russians and used soft power that he certainly could have utilized with Tsarist émigrés in German then he probably would have won WW2 or at least defeated the USSR.
“It is known that Stalin and the commissars issued order that absolved the Red army of any criminal act for 3 days after entering any German territory.”
I have not heard this before any reference or links that you could provide.
Why should Dugin ask for forgiveness? He didn’t do it. Why should the people of a country be responsible for what was done in secret by their government? As for that matter, if the Russians should be down on their knees, why aren’t the western people whose governments also did atrocities? Who is going to apologize for knowingly committing evil acts? You have got to be kidding. I did not do it and neither did most of the people who trusted their government. I refuse to hold the guilt of others. I may feel shame about it, but I refuse to feel guilty and take the blame. We, the people were betrayed totally and taking the blame for what we did not know was happening is pure bullshit and an act of a coward. It is so easy to wallow in despair. Despair is a luxury of the coddled west. Sadness and melancholy are an entirely different category. We do need to mourn the dead, but not to the point of total inaction.
Thank you for this informative and vital podcast. God’s mercy on us that we don’t have more White women like her!
I’ll never forget her observation that Europe is now doing to itself voluntarily what was forced upon Germany for its having lost the war.
What a clever way to spell suicide from the word genocide.
Probably I am a real snob, and unduly impressed by the Queen’s English, but I find it wonderful to have these sympathetic opinions expressed in such beautiful language. One might have thought that this was no longer possible, with Sir Oswald Mosley gone.
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