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Segment One
Michael Polignano reads William Pierce’s “The Measure of Greatness” (16:12)
Music Break One
Der Blutharsch, Track no. 9 from Der Sieg des Lichtes ist des Lebens heil (Wir Kapitulieren Niemals, 1998) (5:07)
Segment Two
Greg Johnson reads his essay “The Burden of Hitler” (12:35)
Music Break Two
Der Blutharsch, Track no. 10 from Der Sieg des Lichtes ist des Lebens heil (Wir Kapitulieren Niemals, 1998) (4:51)
Segment Three
Michael Polignano reads Irmin Vinson’s “Some Thoughts on Hitler” (11:41)
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“I guess it is not over as far as I am concerned.” Very good podcast. Love the graphic.
Dr. Johnson and Mr. Bowden have the best answers to “the Hitler Question” that I’ve come across.
To paraphrase Bowden in one of his many powerful lectures [on the subject Hitler and “Nazis”TM], “we’ve stepped over that.”
In some ways this is a really beautiful, if simple, phrase. It affirms life in all its forms (even for the German yeasayer), implies that redemption is real, and hints at this life as being composed of hierarchy (as in we can make a better world if we will it so). It’s very powerful. So powerful that it can rescue white identity from heaviest of burdens.
How have we stepped over Hitler, and in what direction have we moved? If that statement can even be called accurate than it certainly wasn’t a step of progress because we have moved nowhere but backwards since 1945.
I also don’t particularly care for Bowden’s wording (assuming you paraphrased him correctly). “Stepping over” seems to imply that the racialism of today is somehow better or “above” that of the man who has actual accomplishments to show for his work.
Even in defeat Hitler did more in reality for European homogeneity than any de Benoit or Evola or Junger or Bowden ever has or could have had.
THEIR GOAL IS GENOCIDE. OURS. WHAT’S YOURS?
muroc29 in blockquote:
Assuming Bowden was cited correctly, and I do, I think what he meant was we have moved beyond being trapped in the WNist Model of trying to “fix” the Europe of 1945, trying to bring it into alignment into what it could, and should, have been, if Uncle Adolph had been unencumbered by attacks from virtually all of the rest of the world.
The “racialism of today” pretty much falls short of being anything of substance, and this is due, in large part, to allowing The Owners to define the terms, and the agendas to which they are applied.
We can Do Something about that, in part by defining WNism in terms of Western Nationalism, Western Civilization, and Civilization. The Owners have defined it as green satin bedsheets and pillowcases worn as formal attire, and ununiform “uniforms” worn almost as empty totemic gestures by people no one wants to associate with, and rightfully so.
“Homogeneity” shold be seen as a means to an end, and not as an end unto itself.
What Hitler did, in the totally collapsed moral, political and ec0nomic environment of Weimar Germany, was to define the NSDAP Cultural Moment in terms of the model of Germanic political and economic development inspired by Goethe, Schiller, and Leibniz. Unused talents became very useful capacities as, for instance, the brilliant engineers of the Todt Organization applied their talents to solving complex issues in civil engineering, laying the foundation for greater productivity, and a much higher standard of living, for people facing a FIFTY percent unemployment rate, and starvation.
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I agree completely. And you know what? Our racial enemies know it, too. That’s why almost seventy years after the end of the war, Adolf Hitler is still the paradigm of evil, and the propaganda is non-stop. Frankly, they are terrified that a strong White racial movement, based on or inspired by the Third Reich, will once again rear its head.
Even in defeat, Hitler exposed our enemies for the world to see, and more and more people are beginning to pay attention.
“Assuming Bowden was cited correctly, and I do, I think what he meant was we have moved beyond being trapped in the WNist Model of trying to “fix” the Europe of 1945, trying to bring it into alignment into what it could, and should, have been, if Uncle Adolph had been unencumbered by attacks from virtually all of the rest of the world.”
Yes, that’s why I paraphrased him. It’s addressing a state of mind that needs to come about. He’s not literally referring to “stepping over” Nazi Germany in terms of them being something that we should belittle (though we can certainly learn from whatever mistakes they made as well).
“I also don’t particularly care for Bowden’s wording (assuming you paraphrased him correctly). “Stepping over” seems to imply that the racialism of today is somehow better or “above” that of the man who has actual accomplishments to show for his work.”
Well, if you listen to Johnson’s essay, “The Burden of Hitler,” what Bowden meant by “stepping over” should make more sense. (There’s a reason I mentioned Bowden in the same breath as Johnson with respect to “the Hitler question.”)
“Even in defeat Hitler did more in reality for European homogeneity than any de Benoit or Evola or Junger or Bowden ever has or could have had.”
If ideas and only ideas are the order of the day for white nationalists (given that they have no power), I hardly see how this is relevant. Hitler lived in a different time than we do today. These movements don’t just happen. So ideas are very important. Applying this peculiar standard for evaluating people, I can also just as easily say that Caesar DID more (in terms of direct action) than Plato or Aristotle. That hardly makes Plato and Aristotle less significant.
I downloaded and will listen to these in traffic this week.
This is OT.
In France, the National Front appears to have won a respectable percentage of the vote. Does anyone here know whether this vote is meaningful? Is a good showing for the French-equivalent of American mainstream conservatism, the UKs BNP, or something else? Will it translate into meaningful change in France?
THEIR GOAL IS GENOCIDE. OURS. WHAT’S YOURS?
Lew in blockqote:
The French political analysts are stunned by Marine’s showing, with, so far, twenty percent of the vote. Yes, it IS meaningful.
I think it’s good for French-equivalent of nationalism, conservatism being the God that failed, and everyone in Europe knows it. Everyone in Europe is horrified of facing the future Greece faces.
The BNP is essentially a played card, and I think the UKIP did well in the last by-election, better than the BNP. There is a substantial lesson for us in Marine’s pulling so well in the polls, not least that clean, well-dressed fit young men and women in the NF make it easier to support Marine. Contrast this to the BNP, which seems to have systematically undermined every opportunity to be an effective political force – having, probably, all too soon, less political effectiveness than it’s predecessor., the NF, had.
Look at Marine’s interviews on French television, and contrast that with Griffin’s
eviscerationappearance on Question Time. Style matters, sometimes as much as intellectual competence, sometimes more, as does the intelligent, “no apologies for being correct, no compromise with the Truth” manner of Marine.I would like to use it as a model to translate into meaningful change in America. This topic probably deserves a thread of its own. Thanks for lighting the fire!
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Thanks for this information. American nationalists are always arguing about the value of these European mainstream parties, so I’m never entirely sure what to believe about them.
THEIR GOAL IS GENOCIDE. OURS. WHAT’S YOURS?
Lew in blockquote:
In one of his articles, I think dealing with the topic of the Skinheads, Greg Johnson noted how crisp and clean the young men and women of the NF appeared, as if they were at a big church social, rather than regional political meetings. This helps build legitimacy, and a true, intergenerational sense of community.
And, from what I can tell, as a rule, American nationalists argue about doing remotely as well as the NF just did, one day, “real soon now.”
We really should learn from this. Marine, and her followers, all offer a professional, clean cut, upscale “look” that encourages people to identify with them, and, implicitly, their Ideals. This attracts mature Adults, who are the ones who build political organizations, as well as the best of the Adults-To-Be, who seem to be quite presentable – this IS France, after all – and is an example we should try to emulate. As Peter Shank so astutely noted, “If Hitler ran for office today, he would be wearing suits from Brooks Brothers.” This worked for Obama, who I think wears suits from the Custom Shop at…Brooks Brothers.
A3P stated one of their goals was to shift the dialogue on immigration. Apparently, Race would be dealt with peripherally, if at all. It seems that while A3P seems to be working on foundational issues, the NF vote is being used to develop a new political foundation. To this end, the NF is actively being courted by the new leading party, which seems to have nationalists leaders offering socialist solutions. All to the good!
This is of critical importance. We seem to be advocating the formation of a meritocratic elite, which would foster the development of leading thoughts and ideas. Other WNists before us claimed the same end, but used truly ineffective means to support this. Perhaps we should learn from the successes of the NF.
Perhaps that is worthy of a thread in its own right.
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So, I do believe that I have found the thread into Mein Kampf now. Just thought I would tell you. How to enter this book was my unconscious question. That ‘stepping over’ phrase helped too. Oh mighty resistance!
What Gunnar tyrsson said. Well said.
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